isn't this just a thought terminating cliche?
I don't understand what you mean.
top fucking kek excellent job proving his point
>>543105368Arguing with leftists is pointless anyway.
>>543105368the time for discourse is overviolence is the only way things will change
>>543105368It's infuriating how much they do this.
>>543105780
>>543105368Its this Hitler quote but paraphrased>The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day. Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them.
>>543105368>They pretended stupidity themselves [...] Gradually, I began to hate them.
>>543105506True. They're quite literally brainwashed.
>>543105368leftoids are a civilization terminating cliche
>>543105692Lefties banter Ianalways just “you’re ugly and gay lol” or “well fucking kill you” fucking psychopaths who were dropped on their head too many times
>>543106065Glad someone else recognised it.
>>543106207>Ianalways>I analHow loose were you after?
A non AI wojak slop version of this would be nice, but I'm not going to do it
>>543105368It's something for right wingers to lean on when the are too cowardly or stupid to explain their ideas. Woes is a great example of this, relying on empty sophistry while transmitting chlamydia that he got from men to women and living rent free in a home that the owner's widow has repeatedly tried to evict him from.
>>543105368> please give us a couple more years!
>>543106018Ironic since miggers worship Jews and Israel.
>>543106393There is no right wing idea that is not explained
I watched him for years but most everyone in that sphere lacks introspection.
>>543106018>>543106065Isn’t that just cope for being a brainlet
>>543106506Oh well that clears it up lol
>>543106390>>543106393>explain in great detail literally exactly what I mean so that no human could possible come to another conclusion about my point>reach the wrong conclusion that attempts to paint me as a evil and bad person but also allows you to easily dismiss the false strawman you invented
>>543106538Being dishonest isn't the same as intelligence. Is this really how leftists think? very jewish.
>>543106018Damn, Hitler predicted /pol/? What a visionary
>>543106393Right Wingers also are prone to giving schizophrenic rants sourcing "American Patriot" twitter posts (whos accounts are based in India) and YouTube grifters. Only to then act surprised when the response they get is a blank look and "what?"
>>543106660Can you provide an example pleaseAlso the person communicating might be a reflection of the idea's veracity. There is a reason we don't listen to jobless degenerates irrespective of their alleged leanings
>>543106767They think /pol/ is real life and then their shit gets pushed in. Don't get me wrong, it's funny to watch it happen to hippie commies too
>>543106446Or they just don’t see a distinction, how is marrying someone and raising children with them, the most intimate thing you can do, worshipping that persons ethnicity or religious background? Does it only work one way or does a jew marrying a christian mean the jew worships christian? Again pretending not to understand something and just using conversation terminating buzzwords
>>543106698>be Hitler>lose an argument in a public place>seethe about it years later in prisonAustria's premiere lolcow
>>543106787This post is absolutely amazing.>please give me an example>in the same post claims "we" don't listen to jobless degenerates>posts this on polHonestly, bravo aussie cunt.
>>543106390>jeets in the wifi, the router is muttified by corn syrup handsliterally nobody says thisit's a pizzacunt tier strawman and ironically proves the tweet to be correct
>>543107015>implyingBut...you're doing the tweet lol
>>543106787Literally just look at every communist general on 4chan in the archives. Those threads go on for hours with anons making points and communist faggots going in circles pretending not to understand the points being made.
>>543106926see >>543105368
>>543106446True, but Hitlers quote is still talking about a real and observeable tactic that they do use.>>543106538>You and Hitler are just dumbWhat a useless post.>>543106706Jews post on here so you will see that tactic used here too.
>>543106207yeah well the opposite is just "you lost tranny" anyway
>>543107157Ah, the incredibly strong argument of "communists are also retarded, look over there" when I basically agree with you
>>543106855True, I'll gladly watch someone of any persuasion get BTFO, especially when they're too stupid to realize how obliterated they are.
>>543107173He was leftist, Gary Cooper?
>>543107157I'll just take your word for it seeing as you've read every commie thread on 4chins
>>543107110No you are, you're even intentionally misunderstanding the quote from Hitler. In fact you even just re-contextualized it in your own retarded head canon to mean he lost a debate with zero context of what the debate was even about. For all you know he was debating universal healthcare. This wouldn't matter to you though because you have no convictions, you're dishonest and disingenuous. You're a fucking loser who tribe blue because it makes him feel like more of an intellectual elite.
>>543107174Yes, you and Hitler are dumb. It took a very special kind of dumb to lead his country into such utter and paramount devastation
>>543107242>changing the goalpostsWhere did I ever accuse you of being a communist? You asked for some sources, I gave you the sources. Next response you're going to be dishonest yet again.
>>543107302We know he won because he said so, right
>>543107365You're so bad at this.
>>543107389>we know he lost because he's Hitler, right
>>543106018millennial woes is an actual homosexual faggot though
>>543107419Not an argument, you 80IQ at most, not that you'd even be smart enough to believe in such a thing as IQ.
>>543107351"Pro Europeans" whacking themseves stupid over "Destroyed Europe" guy
>>543107519I guess that means you do not feel compelled to argue any further.
It's just rightoid projection. For instance, miggers still pretend they don't understand how paling around with jews, accepting billions from them, marrying his children off to them, putting them in his administration and fighting wars for them makes Trump a jewish puppet. No matter how much evidence you provide they will pretend not to understand or, at best, tell you "da jews vote dem so trump can't be a jewish puppet!"
>>543107533Meh, sooner or later they give up and switch gears to insisting he was actually a jewish plant
Reading this thread reminds me very much of the classic video of 2 jeets screaming at each other
>>543107302Say what you will about Hitler, but no man could lose a war, kill himself, see to the destruction of his country, and cope at losing debates as good as he could.
>>543107351What would you have done about what was happening in Danzig if you were in Hitlers position?
>>543107365>Where did I ever accuse you of being a communist?I did not interpret his response as being accused of being a communist. The point I got from his post was, your reference to communist generals being filled with idiots as a reason to disregard their ideas basically reinforces his earlier point that sometimes there's a good reason we don't bother listening to bums.
>>543107624He was a glowie, sooo
>>543107712Well seeing how well Hitlers choice turned out I would probably pick another route.
>>543106018By the way, does he ever get into specifics of the arguments he made and their counterarguments? Or does he just do that thing where you talk in abstracts, generalizations, and metaphors to avoid having to defend yourself in any concrete way?
>>543107859And that route would have been?
>>543107911Whichever one doesn't end with what's left of Germany being turned into ruins and putting a bullet in my head.
>>543107904That quote is a generalization based on multiple encounters with jews, its not talking about a single encounter, hence the "gradually I began to hate them" Its from Mein Kampf. You should read the book.
>>543108077And what route is that?
>>543107045>literally nobody says thisIt's said on /pol/ at least 500 times a day, but then it's deleted by (((them)))
>>543108122Yeah, I probably will at some point. But my question is really whether he gets into a specific encounter/s elsewhere in the book, since I recognize that the quote is just a small part of a larger text.
>>543108152First step would be not invading Poland.
Pretending?
>>543106207It's what happens when you over-educate midwits.
>>543105368is a true statement but can also be used as thought terminating cliche.high iq people or based chud will be able to tell from context
>>543106518PROTIP: fascism means the opposite of "reducing the size of government and cutting government spending"
>>543107619they will also act like they have the secret key words that hide the hidden meaning of trumps incoherent kikebabble and anyone who asks what the fuck that retard is talking about is a libtard and then post this faggots expired meme
>>543108392So you would just let them massacre Germans without doing anything?
>>543105368I hope you are trolling.
>>543108510lmao, as if you ever even cared what Trump actually said, you only listen to what the TV tells you Trump said and keep proving it with every post
>>543108315Not really.Marx is mentioned by name but its not a personal encounter.
Migger is just the new weenie.
>>543108565I wouldn't do anything because massacred Germans was as much baloney as the Russians would repeat eight decades later
>>543108629silence, heeb. gentiles are talking.
>>543108392So what would you do to stop the killing of Germans in Danzig?Its very telling that you havent given a single thing you would have done, despite being asked "what would you have done?" multiple times.
>>543105368What do you mean by terminating?
>>543105368Exactly - thought must be terminated with those who unironically say 1+1 = 3 and the sky isn't blue.
>>543107619Nobody says they don't understand your position, they just disagree with it. >nooo you can't disagreeYou're just wrong. That's not confusion that is you being stupid
>>543105485Spbp
>>543108720>Not really.Damn that's pretty faggy
>>543108878>those who unironically say 1+1 = 3 and the sky isn't bluelike the mods of reddit, which you should go back to
>>543109024Its very generalised, but if you have interacted with jews you will notice similar things in your conversations with them.
>>543108565>>543108853You mean the killing of German civilians that occurred after Hitler invaded?
>>543106926>be hitler>keep losing arguments in public>become the national lolcow>jews superior intellect and eloquence absolutely mock him at every opportunity>absolutely nobody takes hitler seriously anymore>completely disappears from the public never to be seen again>also wins a landslide victory in the election and the entire support of every single conservative party to the point he is elected as dictator perpetuus (the title of caesar) in a second electionSomething about your story seems a bit off.
>>543105368Not really. Racist, sexist, anti-semetic are the most common thought terminating cliches in modern politics. That's more of a pithy observation.
>>543105368No, this is a direct observation of typical leftist behavior during arguments where they specifically pretend to not know how anything works to frustrate debate. It's the "idiot's gambit" to cause the opponent to be forced to explain shit from basic concepts on up, which triples the workload on the other party during debate. To demonstrate: >what is a thought? >what do you mean a terminating cliche?>what is a cliche? Now you, OP, need to answer all of that instead providing an argument. Otherwise the "idiot's gambit" results in me being able to declare "LOOK, OP IS AN IDIOT WHO CANNOT EXPLAIN BASIC CONCEPTS" when you fail to take the bait. Additionally, if the left has shifted the definition of words/terms, like equality for example, the leftist will then move goal posts around to frustrate argumentation. Notorious examples are "What is communism?""What is capitalism?"By the way, the reason that post is an "own" on the left is because the left consistently pretends it's "smarter" & "more educated" than that of conservatives. Meaning that the "idiot's gambit" they employ is an unintended admission they are actually fucking idiots. And when one side is either an idiot or a pretend idiot, there is no point arguing with them, because they cannot be reasoned with. They will never understand, and the pretend idiot will never pretend to understand. This is the direct refutation of your point OP in case it went over your head, the tweet is directly addressing the fact that lefties pretending to be idiots ruins discourse with lefties. It does not serve the purpose of terminating actual thought, because lefties don't actually think. There is nothing there to terminate, especially one pretending to be an idiot.
>>543106787That's the genetic fallacy.
>>543109200Over 100000 germans ethnically cleansed from their ancestral homes and 45000+ dead or missing since poland was given the land by the entente. Even the weimar republic had to suffer annual attacks by polish marauders while the entente observers turned a blind eye. By the time germany invaded there had been daily reports of poles murdering germans using the danzig corridor for over a year. That the polish army in their retreat massacred german civvies in revenge, like they did in Bromberg three days into the war, does not actually speak well of their character, does it?
>>543109546So the tl;dr is that you completely spill spaghetti when asked to explain your position?
>>543109818This is an excellent use of the idiot's gambit anon, thanks for demonstrating for the class. A+
>>543109818Hey look, you're doing the thing.
>>543109818tee hee hee
>>543109200Its telling you still refuse to answer the question to what you would have done.It was happening before he invaded and was the main reason for invading.>>543109704 said it quite well.
>>543109704>Literal Nazi PropagandaWell if Hitler said it happened then it must have been true.
>>543107995Just realized Woes is there next to Roosh, holding the cigarette. Back when he'd openly call himself a "chain-smoking bisexual".
>>543108500Why did fascists vote for Trump then?
>>543110032>your witnesses don't count, no not even the independents or our own side admitting to it>mine can say whatever they want without proof or independent inquiryEvery time.
>>543109986>it happened before ww2Have a source that isn't "the nazis said it happened"?
>>543110368Right anon, the facist party that built their nation around military might totally wouldn't lie about neighboring nations committing atrocities just to go to war with them.Also your side lost.
>>543110176"Faggots" voted MAGA, not "fascists". Same root, different meanings.Millennial Woes is an example.https://files.catbox.moe/36v1li.mp4
>>543110383>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V6HGFzdWloHere is a recent report by an eye witness breaking his silence after 75 years. The danzig corridor is mentioned somewhere in there. You won't watch it and will simply defame the witness as a nazi to avoid the evidence.
>>543110580German spending on military was a fraction, both absolute and relative, of what the allies were doing before the war. By your logic every single accuser of the nazis is less believable than the nazis because they were even greater warmongers.
>>543105368it's just pilpulIf you know what to look for, it's extremely easy to see it happen in real time. So the thing is, in the hegelian dialectic, the goal is to reach a synthesis that has a higher level of truth than any previous iterations of the knowledge. One thing that's required is that the system of logic be in agreement and that assumptions be consistent. Pilpul perpetually attacks both the system of logic and consistency of assumptions. What it does is preempt any logical chain from happening until the argument has been successfully reframed in a manner that the pilpul user is correct a priori based on the system of logic and assumptions that they have forced you to accept. Where an argument may be "I don't believe that social media is good for people in general"pilpul attacks this with>what do you mean by good? good for all people? good for some? What does good define for you? How do you know your definition of good is correct? >what is social media? Is social media just a construct? You're constructing a framework where social media is easily identifiable but in reality even microsoft word could technically be social media>Which people are you referring to? Are these people morally good? Do you think you have a right to determine what is good for people?and at the end of the day the argument has degenerated into some bizarre hypothetical world where it's not possible for social media to not be the only thing necessary for human society. basically if you detect it, anyone using it is just arguing in bad faith and have no intention of ever doing anything productive and the only decision for you to make is if you'll use violence on them to enforce your viewpoint, or it's not worth the trouble.
>>543110646>2:30hr video>Grifter "comedian" channelI'll watch it regardless
>>543110049I dunno what he does the rest of the year but Milleniyule stream is pretty good for catching on on everyone from that era.
>>543106540...you want him to explain everything single thing ever? There's a character count. Him saying "right ideas are explained" means that there's a concrete explanation to any idea that you'd consider "right wing".
libtards just want free healthcare because they're dysgenic freaks :3
>>543105368Notice that this is a recent trend.Also notice that zoomers need every little simple goddamn thing explained out to them, and they either refuse or are just incapable of deducting anything from context.Thank you for noticing.
>>543109546>Now you, OP, need to answer all of that instead providing an argumenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9
>>543106393>explain yourself>goalpost immediately moved or attempt to totally reframe argument disallowing your argumentlmao
>>543110176the TV convinced them Trump was the Second Coming of Adolf Hitlernot my fault they're so stupid to believe anyone that tells them anything they want to hear
>>543110811Those are all important questions.I don’t see the twitter screenshot brought up in response to anything that demanding though. It’s typically towards easier questions or responses.
>>543106207>“you’re ugly and gay lol”>“well fucking kill you”
>>543106660I have literally never had a right winger do this for me in an argument. They never write more than a couple sentences then call you a gay nigger
>>543105368>Huh?Observe the people that surround you, moron. Are they engaging in good faith?
>>543116120the people that post that image aren't
>>543116109Yeah because you demonstrate you are arguing in bad faith so anyone with intelligence just writes you off.
>>543105368They (and this happened to liberals too) kinda just lost the ability to be introspective or self-critical.
>>543105780You, nor any rightoid, will do shit. Smart people, which is most leftists, will simply build drones to spray your community down with a nerve agent and collect whoever is left for reeducation. You will be left gagging to death on your front steps while your children are whisked off to a world free from conservative propaganda slop.
>>543109546I have a best friend. I love her to death, but she'll pull the>But what is 'normal'?"on me. I think this is because they learned in the 2010s after Atheism+ that debating the right ended in them more often than not making absolute fools of themselves, so they try to obscure and deflect actual discussion as much as possible.
>>543105368funnily enough, I barely have misunderstandings even tho I'm a eslfag on this site, but when I talk to leftists anywhere, I keep thinking>that's obviously not what I meant how retarded could you possibly to interpret it this way?yeah this is kinda annoying and desu, I feel gaslit.
>>543124991It's done entirely on purpose. I've had them start arguing points I never made. I always tell them>Okay that's nice. When you're done arguing with the fake me inside your head, the real me is right here.
>>543125260yah sometimes I feel like they decide u believe in something tangential because you said one thing and then argue as if you were actually believing in that thing and it's just like>I never said that I don't believe that they way you think HELLO?but maybe it's because there's a certain truth and they just don't want to face that. I mean I am obviously wrong about things but dismissing things that are sometimes so obvious and self-evident in statistics and also just experience is - not compelling of the ideology.
>>543125260>>543125562It's because the faggots that come here have it in their mind that everyone here is a dysgenic mutant instead of normal people that want to be able to say nigger and discuss issues without a lynch mob forming. They can't accept that the person on the other end of the keyboard is smarter, richer, or right because that doesn't agree with their narrow worldview. That or it's just some sharty shit poster. I used to engage with them seriously but now I just insult them and call them a retard.
>>543105368American political discourse is insufferable, because all the normalfags are getting their news from TikTok.
>>543125954>call them a retardyes this seems to work just write retard and sometimes they self correct
>>543105368no it's truethey're just dicks and refuse to debate anything in good faith>so what you're really saying is...____?
>>543116109Stop being a gay nigger if you want someone to take the time to talk to you like an actual person then.
Wow, a rare good thread.
>>543105368It is, but it's interesting to see the asymmetry at play, why this took off as a rightwing meme. There isn't a leftwing equivalent, they believe you don't understand. The right has such faith in their position that questioning it, trying to pry at your reasoning, definitions, or metrics is really just the leftist pretending not to understand, like they actually instinctively know what you're implying or saying and you shouldn't have to provide clarification or specifics.If also shows how often the right is vague with their reasoning in public because what they're implying is often brutal or harder to defend with more information. It's why the more rightwing America gets, the more podcasters become relevant to politics. These types aren't beholden to facts like stuffy lefty liberals, they don't pry around for evidence like those cucks, their faith becomes "knowing" and if you don't "know" like they do, you're just lying.
>>543126254The whole "they're eating dogs and cats in Springfield" thing really showed how the right can't be reasoned with when it comes to even just asking for evidence. The most charitable thing to say here is that to them, the left is pretending not to know that the facts are irrelevant here, Haitians eat cats and dogs in their home country like the Chinese and we need to treat them worse because they're black and not Asian. Someone pointing out that Trump lied and there was never any evidence to his claim when he said he saw it on TV is wrong to point out the lie because the facts don't matter. But the right can't say it like that because it gives up the game so the best you can do is accuse the left of knowing what you mean and what you want, but acting like you actually care about what's true here. They should just know you don't care and they're being dicks by approaching the issue like you do.
>>543105368That post is literally sophistry
>>543126562Left wingers could opt to steelman the rights position. The reason for millenial woes post becoming popular is that often times they dont and intentionally obfuscate to avoid productive debate.
>>543105485This. OP is too much of a leftoid to even realize it. It's simultaneously intentional and instinctual at this point.
>>543126562anon, the equivalent is>let's ban this person
>>543107217Those are also posted by you leftoids.
>>543126562How many people write up walls of text to refute the post to only agree with it is astounding.
>>543110032>if i just dismiss every inconvenient historical fact as literal nazi propaganda i'll never ever be wrong again!Low IQ and cringe.
>>543110580The callous and brutal psychopaths would never deny valid accusations because they have a desire to punish entire peoples for psychotic reasons.
>>543105368No because that would require leftists to have thoughts in the first place. They function on feelings that is why you can't have a conversation with them because they aren't even talking to you on the same plane of existence.
Thing is that libtards don't even have to pretend not to understand, they literally don't.They spend so little time / effort actually thinking of what their opponents are actually likely thinking and just create the biggest strawmen in their head to fight all day.There are countless studies on this that show that leftists actually don't understand conservative viewpoints, but conservatives understand what they think.They literally ARE just that retarded and odds are you are just encountering actual retards who have never seriously thought about a topic further than>I'm good>They're bad>They're hitler even.>>543109024A huge theme of the book is talking about generalized concepts - more specifically it's talking about how they're more important than a collection of specific factoids that the masses typically rely on.He talks about how his view on politics is based on such generalizations, including history seen in broader movements instead of some string of specific incidents.For the most part it's a pretty accurate worldview. A lot of the thought-terminating cliches of a generation are held behind specific anecdotes and citations instead of a general view gradually coming together to form an entire image, so if you talk about any one topic they'll have a few anecdotes to list that have made up their entire worldview - often said anecdotes are specifically made by certain people to draw certain conclusion subconsciously.
>>543110580>Also your side lost.This is the kind of 102 IQ motherfucker that will glibly quote "History is written by the victors" and then say shit like this without a trace of cognitive dissonance
brutal truthnukes itt
>>543108937This. For whatever reason leftiods think their giant paragraphs of spam text they post every day are some kind of argument or whatever, or some hard to understand position that we can't possibly comprehend.We get it and it's retarded, it doesn't become a better point because you've posted it thousands of times.
>>543110811Yup, this is a good example of it.An obviously true generalized statement, but they must argue about it for hours and even if you address every single argument there's none of the original point you were making left, the entire point is just to make discourse impossible if they don't like the topic.Meanwhile their normal tactic is some general statement like BELIEVE ALL WOMENBLACK TRANS LIVES MATTERTRANS RIGHTSIf they're asked to explain any of this with specific examples they crash out and accuse you of acting in bad faith when it's literally the slogan they were using 10 seconds ago.
>>543126752this is AI.
>>543105368it is about the thought terminating behavior of leftists - I don't see how pointing that out is thought terminating in of itself
>>543126805That happens as well as other responses, but the fact still is that this "they're pretending not to know what I'm saying" thing is just a rightwing meme.>>543126823That's not an equivalent. Even accepting your premise that the left are the only people who ban opinions they don't like and /ptg/'s TND president banned everyone but Newmax and Trump TV, it's something different.>>543126912I'm not agreeing with anything, I'm acknowledging that the right relies more on faith than the left so they of course more easily adopt the position that in an argument, someone asking for clarification and specifics is just pretending not to instinctively know what you're implying and it's actually bad faith for them to get you to define something that may weaken your position once defined. It's like how faith in any one religion suffers the more people pry into the facts and specifics of the belief system; they should know that you don't have the answers and this is about your faith in the world being on the back of a giant turtle. They're pretending not to know by asking questions someone genuinely curious would ask.
>>543127578It's not, but thanks.
>>543106538>Isn’t that just cope for being a brainletLike the quote in OP and this hitler quote it applies to both sides of the political fence. The truth is there is a very limited amount of space in middle of it all where each sides ability to project power must be protected to keep the other side from committing objectively criminal acts an eternal dance of forces that when interrupted by the overgrowth of idiots moving the scale causes disaster.The funny part is that the crimes each side want to commit are exactly the same.
>>543127700>That's not an equivalent. Even accepting your premise that the left are the only people who ban opinions they don't like and /ptg/'s TND president banned everyone but Newmax and Trump TV, it's something different.prime example right here.-of course it's something different that's why I was pointing it out because if it were the equivalent why would I even write my reply?-of course I don't mean every leftist always bans or that non-leftists don't ban, I am talking about a general tendency, a well known general tendency that leftist spaces are a bit crazy on moderationyou can't tell me in earnest this needs clarification or explaining for you
>>543127700While i agree the case you make does happen, im arguing that the intentional obfuscation is far more prevalent. Atleast from my anecdotal experience. Its frustrating when trying to have a good faith discussion especially for people who care about the truth rather than political camps. Its like pulling teeth with the left. Hence the meme it happens so often (atleast in my experience) its become a running joke.
>>543105368Yes, yes it isThat' why miggers love it, thoughts are very uncomfortable, gotta terminate them.
But how does this lower the cost of groceries and gas
>>543128189So then why call it an equivalent? My "pretending not to understand" is me not recognizing you know it's not really an equivalent, but how am I supposed to know that? What's funny about the meme is that it assume the person "pretending" actually knows.>>543128243But intentionally obfuscating is different than pretending not know.Something that may be relevant is the rightwing response to leftwing opposition to zionism: they often don't see the left as just being generally ethical to the point of largely opposing violent expansionism through bombing civilians, they see the left as just hating Israel because they think jews are white. All information presented is substituted by armchair psychology. Assuming someone is "pretending not know" something when asking you for information is but if that armchair psychology.
>>543128648retard
>>543105368>I don't understand thishaha you did the thing
>>543105368Like every other conservative accusation, it's a confession
>>543105368Leftists don't generally make good use of their liberty, they support infinite mandatory sodomy and dogmatizing representations of reality and the will.
>>543128648I suppose it can be summed up in this anons post. >>543127063I am wiling to concede that dumb r.wers use the millenial woes post in lieu of an argument. Im just sick of the sophistry from the left. If they cant beat them on substance i mean.. maybe sophistry works on 85% of people i just see that as scummy. Atleast contend with the actual argument and then i could be swayed. Its often i just see shitty disengenuous tactics and im dissapointed.
>>543127466try telling a leftist minorities steal they blame it on drugstry telling them leftist cheat, they blame the other persontry telling leftist they're rapist, they say the person was asking for ittry telling leftist they're murderers they say the person is innocentleftist are manipulative cunts
>>543128831And that's a better response than the meme. Telling me I'm too stupid to get it is a more honest response than accusing me of actually being smart and pretending not to get it.
>>543105368No. It's a page straight out of the Nigger playbook.>Nigger steals 2 packs of M&Ms and says he thought they were freehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAcYsHtm_WY
>>543129069you gotta become smarter bro I'm serious this is like clinical if you can't grasp the general concept of equivalent outside of a literal by-the-book definition and apply it to a custom situation how are your even able to formulate a coherent sentence?
>>543106390>jeets are being used to artificially prolong the fake economy>what do you mean jeets are in the wifi>shows the meme image.
>>543124637Then you hit her with the "If you don't know, then we're using my definition."
>>543129381Yeah, if you don't understand me I'm not talking to you.
>>543129032Right, that's the more sensible position, it's not as thought terminating as "you actually understand, you're just pretending not to".What I've seen online is that the sophistry is meant to get the rightwing person to admit to basic fascism because it cuts to the chase; a fascist is going to do or say anything to protect and support his position because the advantage he's looking to achieve or secure is at the expense of others and that's based. You can't really argue with that mindset, they don't aim to be fair and see equality as false god.
>>543129300But I get it now. I didn't get it initially and that hurts you because you feel the joke was perfectly clear and now I'm being rude by subjecting you to my bullshit.
>>543129478Equality or equity? Ive seen equivocation between these two and its just a headache. Again the lack of good faith just becomes so tiresome. I cant imagine sub 100iqs ever deciphering the language to the point that there is a clear and obvious decision.
>>543105368I've seen retards barely able to form coherent thought and arguing by posting videos post this image. It's very hard to take it seriously.
>>543105368I don't get it.
funny how fascists do this to me when I mention IslamIslam really is to the right of white fascists in the way fascists are to the right of white leftists
>>543106660>explain in great detail literally exactly what I mean so that no human could possible come to another conclusion about my point>Rightoids: WORDS WORDS WORDS
>>543127063>they're more important than a collection of specific factoids that the masses typically rely on.>He talks about how his view on politics is based on such generalizations, including history seen in broader movements instead of some string of specific incidents.Generalizations are important, sure, but they only have merit or value if they can be grounded in reality, which means concrete evidence. If there is a "broader movement" throughout a period in history, surely that's manifest in a "specific incident" in the real world, otherwise how could you say the movement occurred at all? Citing those incidents is how you defend and prove the existence of that movement. That's why I'm saying the structure of the argument is faggy: If you can't or simply choose not to actually provide evidence for your conclusions, you're now somewhere on the spectrum between "dogma" to "making shit up."
>>543105368He should give an example so we can see if it holds up
>>543105368This has been one of the most succinct posts I've seen in awhile. It's true on a universal level with how many people on the right have experienced this with people on the left.>>543105506It's pointless for sure but I still can't help but do it anyway, hoping that something breaks through. I think a lot of it is about breaking down the social stigmas that your viewpoint is attached to, trying to get them to see that something being true or not is more important than social consensus.
>>543105780Frankly I don't want to play the violence game with leftists considering how crazy they are.Remember, around half of all democrats, when polled, would be "very happy" if Trump got taken out in some way. That's a very big percentage. I'd assume you have around 10% of that number, at least, who would be "very happy" if he was physically tortured for fun.
>>543105485this. fuck a leftist in the ass tomorrow.do it for your cuntry.
>>543108629 there's that memeflag again. Next you'll be using capital J's
>>543125562>certain truthsThis is their anathema. Concrete concepts such as objective truths and reality are things they avoid. The moment you have to pin them down to something, they fight the hardest. It's their dialetic.
