How did southerners get psyoped into believing Yankee wars are patriotism?
Wasn't conscription a thing during vietnam?
>>543105550School propaganda, control of academia, and transplants that originated from the north or new immigrants.
>>543105550The south will rise again
>>543105628yes but over 60% of vietnam soldiers were volunteers
>>543105774They volunteered because they were told in advance their number was in the draft lottery.
>>543105550I'm from Somalia and this means nothing to me.
>>543105873>I'm from SomaliaBased patriot. You are Washington's friend too. Never talk to Moscow again.
>>543105832southerners volunteered because they wanted to fight. The military is seen as a profession. The problem is not their patriotism, it's their misunderstanding that they serve a government that is despotic and their ancestors would not support.
>>543105975I live in the U.S. and this means nothing to me.
>>543105989Exactly
>>543105989>The military is seen as a professionIt didn't help that Reconstitution made them poor and backward well into the early 1900's
>>543106100>I live in the U.S.You do now. Have you thanked a Yankee?
>>543105774>only 60% of vietnam soldiers were volunteersgrim
>>543106162Well that number would have been much higher early in the war. Once the media let people know how futile things were, morale dropped.
>>543105550How did this flag get such a bad reputation so quickly? Like the Dukes of Hazard was one of the most popular shows on TV for years. It even had a kids' cartoon that had a full General Lee car. Southern Democrats openly campaigned with it. Even progressive Democrats seemed to just find it a little tacky, they didn't spazz out over it like today.
>>543106156Nope. I just make you guys pay more in taxes while I get benefits from your libtard state governments and steal jobs. God bless America!!!
>>543106124>backwardWhat do you mean by that? The families that settled in the south no matter their class came from cultures that served in the military going back to early modern or medieval times. When you say backward, I see you critical of not being progressive enough. But the fact remains, that southerners were always the most conservative people. Conservatism is opposite of progress.
>>543106261Arkansas went from Clinton to Huckleberry Hound in less than 10 years.
>>543105550You pointed a gun at them
Oh, I'm a good old rebelNow thats just what I amAnd for this yankee nationI do no give a damnI'm glad I fought against herI only wish we'd wonI ain't asked any pardonFor anything I've doneI hates the Yankee nationAnd eveything they doI hates the declarationOf independence tooI hates the glorious union'Tis dripping with our bloodI hates the striped bannerAnd fought it all I couldI rode with Robert E. LeeFor three years there aboutGot wounded in four placesAnd I starved at Point LookoutI caught the rheumatismCampin' in the snowBut I killed a chance of YankeesAnd I'd like to kill some moreThree hundred thousand YankeesIs stiff in southern dustWe got three hundred thousandBefore they conquered usThey died of southern feverAnd southern steel and shotI wish they was three millionInstead of what we gotI can't take up my musketAnd fight 'em down no moreBut I ain't a-goin' to love themNow that is certain sureAnd I don't want no pardonFor what I was and amI won't be reconstructedAnd I do not give a damnOh, I'm a good old rebelNow that's just what I amAnd for this Yankee nationI do no give a damnI'm glad I fought against herI only wish we'd wonI ain't asked any pardonFor anything I've doneI ain't asked any pardonFor anything I've done...
>>543105550the rebel flag is my favourite colour scheme of the st.andrews cross.
>>543106364No backwards cultural wise. Them not worshipping everything niggers, trannies, and Ashkenazi Jews did isn't the problem.
>>543106261Broadly speaking, I think by 90s and early 00s the nation had unified past demonizing heritage. You never heard outrage about God's and Generals. It wasn't until the 2010s that the demonization happened. Nobody gave a shit about the statues before.
>>543106321Based Somali, our Jewish and mulatto elites dislike you guys for not being mindless slaves.
>>543105550Same way retarded yanks in the North still think the civil war was about slavery and nothing else at all, they just can
>>543106442
>>543106544It is part of white demoralization and more globohomo anon. Now that the government needs whites in Iran they are letting the statues and fort names stay
>>543106261it's literally because of /pol/tards and people waving it while screaming JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US
>>543106682The self hating whites are mostly from New England, which is where the Jewish bankers and corrupt industrialists centralized power.
>>543106764>Shitting on Ashkenazi Jews/freemasons while waving the Rebel flag is badOk nigga
>>543105989You're missing the point. For most of the country if you got drafted, you then enlisted as a "volunteer" so you could at least have some say in the matter. Ie., join the branch you want instead of wait for them to assign one.
>>543106764that happened like 1 time
>>543106883nobody cares about freemasons IRL niggeralso the Confederacy was a Jew joint dedicated to having as many niggers replace White people as possiblewhat do I expect from a Confederate apologist retard
>>543106321based bulbhead
>>543106682Most the people who are big mad about the south had little connection to old America. Think about all the immigration 1880s and onward. How many people have little connection. Look at all the German ancestry. Many of them came after the war. I have more respect for those who are proud of their union ancestors that fought and kept that tradition vs. someone who knows nothing about their ancestry and just spews whatever they heard from a youtuber.
>>543106935source on the south being jewish?
>>543106261Because the south, like the Duke Boys, cultivated a rebellious image celebrating the free American spirit. What people learned however was that the south, like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane, is filled with little power tripping men who want nothing to do with your free spirit except to quash it.
>>543107005People just make shit up here, retard.
>>543107005(((judah benjamin)))Jews owning most of the slaves and holding the mortgages on most of the plantations
Feuntes = no civil war ancestryTrump = no civil war ancestryMost neo con jews = no civil war ancestryYoutubers like Atun-Shei Films = no civil war ancestry
>>543107005He moved to England after the civil war.
>>543106544Liberal revolutions go in waves. Once every 2 or 3 generaitons. We're nearing the end game now so revolution is more or less continous
>>543107147>there was a jewwhoa
>>543106935I'm well aware of Jewish financiers on both sides
>>543107063>Jews owning most of the slavesAnyone who believes this is truly, and I mean truly, retarded
>>543106887Any sources on this?
>>543105550Confederacy is the superior form of governance. When the confederacy died America installed a central bank an income tax and started 2 world wars. Abraham Lincoln owned slaves.
>>543107224We used to have an education system in this country.
>>543107119Atun-Shei is Jewish
>>543107224Talk a Vietnam vet.
>>543107291Mossad?
>>543107187who owned the ships niggerWHO OWNED THE SHIPS>>543107229anyone who owned 20 niggers was exempt from the confederate draft and poor Whites were sent to fight for Confederate Jewish bankersHow's the weather in Haifa rabbi?
>>543107311Not sure, just know that his content is mostly just anti White anti Christian Zionist-Bolshevik garbage.
>>543107147Judah Benjamin is one of the only prominent figures shills use to say the south was Jewish. He was Jewish and he was close with Jefferson Davis. He was important to the CSA government and their international affairs. Yes it's dubious. But it's a joke to use it as evidence of the south being "jewish"
>>543107347Enjoy your perpetual war and tyranny yankee devil.
>>543107468Confederacy literally wanted to conquer the Caribbean and Mexico/Central America, look up Knights of the Golden CircleThe Confederacy was not for the White man at all, it was for the spic and the nigger
>>543107224>In his investigation of the ordinary combat soldier in South Vietnam, Working-Class War: American Combat Soldiers and Vietnam (2000), Dr. Christian G. Appy separates the two categories of volunteers into "true volunteers" and "draft-motivated volunteers". In 1968, 54 % of men who voluntary enlisted did so because of the draft. The existence of the draft itself had therefore the consequence of making many young men enlist. As Appy writes, they "enlisted because they had already received their induction notices or believed they soon would, and thus they enlisted in order, they hoped, to have more choice as to the nature and location of their service."This one's for free, but you can google it. It used to be common knowledge.
>>543105550There were/are a lot of poor Whites in the south with not many job opportunities, the military is a sure thing job with good benefits.
>>543107596>the confederacy wanted to launch an empire>maybe>I have no concrete proof of this>they did try and buy cuban though, or something>but the north DID in fact launch an empire and break every law imaginable>so that means>uh>and
>>543107347shut up groyper
>>543105550Imagine being rich as fuck and this is how you choose to be depicted in death.
>>5431065448 years of Obama ended by Dillon Roof shooting up a black church in Charleston after posing for a totally not staged photoshoot while holding the Confederate flag really put the flag on the national stage again. Then South Carolina removed it from the State house and it started a chain reaction from there. 1st term Trump slowed the madness down some, but America really went nuts after Biden. 2nd term Trump slowed some of the woke shit down again, but now he's trying to shill his retarded and costly war and now no one likes him.
>>543106364>The families that settled in the south no matter their class came from cultures that served in the military going back to early modern or medieval times.Some of them did, sure. But the vast majority were peasants like the rest of us. That's not as good of a story for the grandkids though. Just like whites in the northeast have tales of being descended from Indian princesses, every white in the south has a story about some medieval sword no one thought to keep.
>>543105550Nobody really knows the USA has been a Corporation since 1871 and a counterfeiting operation since 1913. Anybody that believes in any form of government is an absolute retard.
>>543105550Before the civil rights act the official narrative was that the civil war was a tragic mistake and that the North and South should reconcile. This was the most sensible arrangement and it led to Southerners enthusiastically supporting the government during the World Wars. And it produced some of our best soldiers, Scotts-Irish from the Southern interior have consistently been the best fighters that America has produced, these are men of the same stock who pioneered westward expansion, slaughtered the Indians, and helped establish America as a continent spanning nation.
>>543107805The south wanted Cuba added as a slave state at one point too. None of this stuff is secret. You just do not know about it.
Southerners like fighting. Thats why it took so long for the North to defeat the South despite being outnumbered and out produced
>>543108059>Some of them did, sure. But the vast majority were peasants like the rest of usThey came from areas where peasants fought like the frontier region between England and Scotland that had endemic clan warfare until the modern age.
>>543108284Some of them did, sure.
>>54310808790% of Americans are programmed since birth to be niggercattle who work, vote, and consume. The remaining schizos and spergs who question literally anything on their own get called conspiracy theorist Nazis.
>>54310831990% of people are normoid sheeple regardless. The difference between now and any point in the past is the quality of culture and leadership. Normoids with excellent cultural qualities and good leadership can be mistaken for fully independently-thinking people at a glance. In truth thinking independently of the herd is rare and will always be rare.
>>543108507it's easier to believe the 13+ years of indoctrination somehow represents actual america where you pledge to the flag without explanation rather than just being a daycare for foreign corporate illegal imports
>>543105747Maps are fun!
>>543108059The Scots-Irish were not all farmers. They were into cattle herding and fighting eachother and for different kings. But what about the English? Well not everyone from England was a peasant class just like not everyone was from the gentry. Gentry was getting pretty big in the 1600s and many gentlemen went abroad to make their own destiny. Someone who believed themselves cavalier in culture looked down upon hard work. Planters liked owning land for example but they viewed it as money generating assets rather than hard working peasants. This pride I think translated to all their descendants regardless of their standing by the civil war and reconstruction.
>>543108888that book is horseshit
>>543108736New England is the only place that doesn't just follow the urban/suburban/rural political split. These people are an absolute plague and should be wiped off the face of the earth. They've been doing this shit for 400 years
>>543108988based, glass the jewish puppets, thankfully outlined in green
>>543108888>Someone who believed themselves cavalier in culture looked down upon hard workliterally me
>>543109070It's all one war that never ended and has now spilled over to consume the entire planet.
>>543109142it's banks, that's all it is. that's why they hate the south so much, because it has a legacy that traces all the way back to "fuck banks"
>>543109257This started before the banks. It's their stupid fake religion
>>543109142It's not so much the war never ended as that Calvinism was never properly extinguished. Modern New England liberals are essentially secular congregationalists obsessed with weeding the "elect" from everyone else. Only now Marcusian socialist notions of who is chosen have replaced Christian notions, but the basic cultural form of their religious mania has remained the same.
>>543109462nah, it's banks (and anyone that want to tell english people what to do)
>>543108169well said
>>543109142I think you should take this map with a grain of salt though because the eastern parts of England I know for a fact had family from landed gentry in eastern England.
>>543109832Had family from landed gentry that settled in Virginia*
>>543108925Which book?
>>543109493>It's not so much the war never ended >as that Calvinism was never properly extinguishedsounds like the same thing>Modern New England liberals are essentially secular congregationalists obsessed with weeding the "elect" from everyone else. Only now Marcusian socialist notions of who is chosen have replaced Christian notions, but the basic cultural form of their religious mania has remained the same.Yea. Protestantism has to either undergo periods of revolutionary leftist revolution or else it just whithers away and dies out. The only protestants left on the planet are like Zionist lunatics. Even mormonism is dying. I guess the Amish have managed to freeze it in place, but they did that by withdrawing from society which obviously isn't sustainable since they survive as parasites by the grace of others. The history of American protestantism is a series of psychotic breaks (various great awakenings and charismatic movments, modern zionism) where shit gets crazier in order to keep the revolutionary leftist momentum going. In Europe the protestants just stopped caring and became atheists.
>>543109832yes it's all from that albion's seed book which I think is propaganda. all the mentionable documents were from usually from virginia/south, non masons, and upper class. The northern bankers and merchants couldn't even be asked to attend the constitutional convention in philly which they considered a backwater. Early US history was mostly snubbing the retarded faggots in new england which were essentially treasonous english kisasses
>>543108169>Before the civil rights act the official narrative was that the civil war was a tragic mistake and that the North and South should reconcile.well that was always a bandaid solution that could never survive the eternal leftward slide
>>543109626Why thank you. I myself am a firm believe that the civil war was a horribly horribly stupid mistake for both the North and South of this country. It enabled the absolute worst moralizing New-Englanders to saddle the country with the 14th and 15th amendments as well an utter waste of so many American lives. The original Jacksonian Democratic party was brilliant, it was an alliance of right-thinking Northerners and Southerners organized by Martin van Buren to lock the Rothschild fellating cucks in Boston out, prevent them from obstructing westward expansion, and to maintain America's financial sovereignty rather than bowing to Judaic greed and the London stock exchange. The fact that the New England elite managed to use slavery to split that coalition is one of the single biggest tragedies in American history.
>>543110151the south hated the north and the 4th of july was seen as a "nigger holiday" until the papers kicked off the spanish american war, which coincidentally was in cuba mostly, maybe to rally the south for support. Then they made birth of a nation, pointing out the civil war was actually a war of aggression, shunted wilson into the presidency waving a confederate flag, and then handed the country over to jews
>>543110273So they tricked you back onto the judeo plantation with cheap propagandaI guess all Americans have that trait in commonAppeals to masculinity - that one always works on someone!
>>543110173You ever check out Brion McClanahan? I've been checking him out on youtube. I will search his channel a lot to try and find a talking point and then will tell me about some figure I had no idea about and their influence on today. Like I had no idea who Leo Strauss was and he explains how he was big on neo conservatism.
>>543110416well it was more of a national trick, since even the midwest is culturally "southern" and agricultural. Basically everyone against new england. They promised to lower tariffs, to protect agricultural interests, and in exchange they passed an income tax, then they just raised tariffs again.
>>543110041Isn't it just about migration patterns
>>543110416>So they tricked you back onto the judeo plantationYour views are incompatable really. You are too hung up on Jews. This is leftwing behavior and you can never have a rationale view on our history if you just boil it down to Jews as great other when throughout most of our history and European history that was not the case.
>>543110706It's really just jewish tier projection >YOU are the ones up your ass, YOU are the money hungry tyrants, YOU are the dysgenic >says the blooded money hungry tyrant
>>543110173The genius constitution got Lincoln into office with 39% of the vote. And he was probably the 3rd or 4th choice of almost everyone who didn't vote for him. The constitution is literally retarded>The fact that the New England elite managed to use slavery to split that coalition is one of the single biggest tragedies in American history.Funniest thing ever to me is Shay's rebellion. Immediately after the end of the war that the east coast MA people started, they started foreclosing on western MA veterans' farms. How anyone continues to fall for these people's tricks is beyond me
>>543110151I disagree, there were chances to save the country up until Franklin Kikelover Roosevelt used the second world war as an excuse to silently quash all remaining resistance to the Jews and position kikes and kike-aligned shabbos into key positions of power. Herbert Marcuse, arguably the foremost architect of modern leftism was given a post in the OSS and access to all sorts of information and power he should have never been allowed to touch by the Roosevelt administration. Had Huey Long lived or the Japs got cold feet at pearl harbor, Roosevelt might have been ousted or died in office without managing to totally ruin the nation. >>543109989Middle-America experiences Protestantism somewhat differently than the New England Zealot, they've always had more of a "live and let live unless it's Catholic or weird" mentality and it's workable. The Lutherans in Prussia were also shockingly sane people and kept the lunacy to a minimum. It's really only that ramrod-in-ass Calvinist strain that's the problem, the worst excesses of the Great Awakenings had their epicenters in New England. I'm no fan of Protestantism in general but all the same I believe it's fully possible to curb the worst excesses so long the Calvinist strain is excised and all lingering remnants, vestiges, and shadows of it are stamped into utter oblivion.
>>543110968the banker IOUs that they encouraged their friends to buy for pennies on the dollar when it was obvious they weren't going to get paid for them and then reimbursed them in full? Are you sure you're not a communist?
>>543105550Because they are hardcore niggerlovers. Imagine sending an entire generation of your best and brightest white men to die for fucking niggers.
>>543110990>I disagree, there were chances to save the country up until Franklin Kikelover Roosevelt used the second world war as an excuse to silently quash all remaining resistance to the Jews and position kikes and kike-aligned shabbos into key positions of power. Herbert Marcuse, arguably the foremost architect of modern leftism was given a post in the OSS and access to all sorts of information and power he should have never been allowed to touch by the Roosevelt administration. Had Huey Long lived or the Japs got cold feet at pearl harbor, Roosevelt might have been ousted or died in office without managing to totally ruin the nation.Liberalism will always come at you again and again unless it's purged root and stem, that's what I mean. Any compromise will eventually fail because the revolution is eternal. I doubt Huey Long or anyone else would have done anything lasting, just more delaying actions. When they fail they just take a break for 20 years and then try again, because the only thing conservatives care about is money.>The Lutherans in Prussia were also shockingly sane people and kept the lunacy to a minimumThey just replaced with with militarism. They seem to have been more or less an atheist state since Frederick the Great, at least among the elites.> I'm no fan of Protestantism in general but all the same I believe it's fully possible to curb the worst excesses so long the Calvinist strain is excised and all lingering remnants, vestiges, and shadows of it are stamped into utter oblivion.Those people will always side with the lunatics over the Catholics.
>>543111208I don't know what you're talking about.
>>543111385>I don't know what you're talking about.>Liberalism will always come at you again and again unless it's purged root and stemBanks and jews I don't know what plane you're operating on
>>543110968The Constitution may be flawed but the Democratic party royally screwed the pooch in by splitting three ways as the cherry on top of catastrophic mismanagement of the slavery debate. It could have worked had the men in charge in the 1850s been more capable and had done a better job of tard-wrangling the moronic elements of the party. Before that, the issue of Westward expansion held the Democratic party together because New England was utterly opposed to it and the rest of the North, particularly New York, determined to profit off of it. Curbstomping Mexico was both the high point of 19th century America and when things began to go horribly wrong.
>>543105550they mostly fought the Japanese. every that was thought they where good died against Germans.
>>543111724polk roflstomping mexico angered the new england spooks that's for sure, broke the timeline. Texas alone sent them into a frothing rage. Stonewall should have kept going and torched the entire coast
>>543111769bullshit
>>543111884Its based that stonewall got killed by his own niggerloving troops.William T Sherman went too easy on you coon lovers.
>>543112002sherman was nothing but a dog
>>543112039Defend your states rights to eat my dick. NIGGER LOVER.
>>543112116prove you're not jewish
>>543112116Better to be friends with niggers than to be someone who blindly worships the government and foreign interest
>>543111884Lincoln was malding over that as a young politicianI’m this poster btw >>543111385>>543111426I still don’t know what you’re talking about >>543112039Southerners didn’t really hate Sherman till recently. He was more politically friendly to the South both before and after the war and they just viewed the march as hard war
>>543112002> It’s based that stonewall got killed by his own niggerloving troops.I don’t think they were. Although stonewall was actually a bit of a niggerlover himself
>>543112116You must be from Boston. You're low IQ enough for it.
>>543112116You literally freed them and then made them a protected class at gunpoint. You are the nigger-worshipper by your own actions.
>>543112392No sherman was and is a dog. mutt for the bankers, he spent the rest of his career killing natives so the bankers could extract gold and silver and resources out of the west. He was good at killing people far below his readiness, that's about it. Also lincoln was also a banker shill and helped bankrupt the midwest printing infinite money with a thumbs up from new york, he had a like 15 year period where he was completely irrelevant politically before the primaries were rigged for him.
>>543112392> Southerners didn’t really hate Sherman till recently.Dude they had to send his ass to the pacific northwest after the war because he was so unpopular.
>>543112673> he spent the rest of his career killing natives so the bankers could extract gold and silver and resources out of the west. He was good at killing people far below his readiness, that's about it.This anon knows. He was hated by everyone and worked for the bankers of his day
>>543112116>nigger lover Says the dude who is defending evil ass Sherman
>>543112747What are you talking about? He became chief of the whole army eventually
>>543112673> he spent the rest of his career killing natives so the bankers could extract gold and silver and resources out of the west.Oh no, don’t be gay
Suppose I told you 10 years ago Alabama would have transgender players in the Little League World Series. The situation is developing quickly.
>>543112935Just to point out it was purely economic, and he was nothing but a dog. The midwest imploding from banker embezzlement and speculation because they removed all liabilities from embezzlement and speculation was what jefferson warned about. Everyone knew what kind of man lincoln was and what new england stood for. They didn't even wait for the civil war to be over with before they started the money printing embezzlement. Hell I wonder how much the embezzlement and corruption DURING the war lead to their inability to conduct it. And poor little lincoln wandering around the white house losing sleep and not eating while he's caught in between a war and bankers. It's a shame booth didn't shoot a banker in the head. Maybe he was sacrificed "for the cause" so people didn't realize how ridiculous the war was
>>543111905look it up. it was mostly southern boys that took Okinawan. they flew the rebel flag
>>543113256Yes you are right and of course one of the most famous southerners being Eugene Sledge in the marines. Maybe it's because so many wanted to join the marines? >every that was thought they where good died against Germans.Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by this
>>543113557Fuck idk, maybe every American thought their backwards forest cousins couldn't fight in the beginning. still to this day they treat the south like shit. or maybe they thought they would betrade them. wasn't trying to talk shit.
>>543113557kek, i see alot more Asians in the south than i do the west coast. the love that rebel Cock
>>543109984I'm guessing he is referring to Albion's Seed. (Great book in my opinion.)
>>543107119>>543107291He bolshevik commiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaikTvN8b4U
