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What are the political implications of the deluge being real?
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All the flood myths descend from the very true tale of Noah.

Real timeline tells the whole story.
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Christian theology doesn't make any sense
>original sin is the reason that all animals suffer
>animals existed for 400,000,000 years before humans evolved
conclusion: animals suffered for 400,000,000 years for a sin that hadn't been committed yet. wow, that's powerful. very much sense making saar, please redeem the crucifix
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>>543170241
What makes even less sense is god drowning every animal on earth except for two because humans were not obeying him lol. Imagine throwing every kitten on earth one by one off the bow of a ship and watching them drown. Then doing that for every animal on earth. Psychotic.
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>>543169469
Imagine believing this grift
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christcucks are pathetic tranny tier delusional retards
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>>543169469
>ok ok it's a massive wooden ark that landed on top of a mountain
>but PROooOooOF it is the same ark in the BIBLE!
>It could be ANY ark
This is genuinely how hard atheists cope

They screech 'why has prayer never regrown a human limb??" but if they ever saw prayer regrow a limb they'd cry it was evolution and then screech prayer has never regrown a head so prayer doesn't work.
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>>543171575
it's useless to be mad at them
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>>543170241
this post is a perfect example brown fecaloids humiliating themselves by displaying their sub 70IQ
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>>543171575
You saw a mound and entered tranny fantasy land, I'm just here to make fun of you.
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>>543170069
It's actually a story that comes from Gilgamesh first, one that proto-Hebrews would have been forced to watch when they were forced to stay in the cuckshed.
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may we see it?
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>>543171575
>massive wooden ark
Can I see this ship? All I see is a mound of dirt.
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>>543170446
It's probably a collective trauma memory of flooding from the time when the ice age was ending.
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>>543170241
>original sin is why animals suffer
?? What are you talking about
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>>543170226
Dinosaurs never existed to be frank.
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I love when people say but every culture has a flood story, yeah my town has one and if I lived in a fucking hut the way my grandparents go on about it it'd get passed down too.
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>carbon dating is fake you cant ever know how old something is
>I know for a fact this dirt mound is the 4300 year old boat from a story
Trannies have saner world views
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>>543170069
The floor myths stem from the very real melting of the glaciers and massive floods they caused for thousands of years.
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>>543171575
How do they know it's a ship and not some other type of structure?
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>>543172013
How do you know what their names were?
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>>543170810
Christcucks are the reason why trannies and genital mutilation exist in the first place
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>>543172244
They don't. They haven't even proved there's any kind of man made structure beneath the dirt, let alone a ship, and let alone Noah's mythological ship
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>>543172300
choosing to live a chaste life has nothing to do with genital mutilation

trannyism comes from freemasonry

https://youtu.be/f4Mc-NYPHaQ?si=zsifI6Fm3JVbnmbS&t=71
>at 1:11
>tranny sings "god knows i want to break free"
>opens door to masonic lodge
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>>543169469
Christians be like
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Why don't the egyptians have a flood myth? Why don't they mention the great flood that killed them all in their writings?
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>>543172583
Fuck off memeflag thai gook
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>>543171575
not an atheist. but I’m gonna need to see this ‘wooden ship’ because I don’t believe the words of retards.
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>>543171575
>it's a massive wooden ark
I doubt it. This is like when all those dead bodies were "detected" at Kamloops here in Canada. Not a single body was ever found. Don't count your chickens anon, they haven't dug anything up yet.
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>>543169469
>us goylem politicians giving jews billions of dolars to help them find old toilets and ancient foreskins underground
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>>543170446
Human but sex make God want to drown kittens, what is wrong with basing your entire moral belief system on that?
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>>543172937
Because egypt is really fucking old and they're just making up what the hieroglyphics mean. Zahi hawass is a huge fucking liar.
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>>543170241
Erm the original sin was committed metaphysically.
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>>543169469
Christcucks are just as delusional as those WE WUZ KANGZ niggers
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>>543173396
Yeah reminder that without christcucks there is no Israel. Roman pagans literally expelled all kikes and even renamed their region to Palestine as province so christcucks later on cause the creation of Israel again because of jewsus. Such an irrelevant province was given value by christcucks and guess who profited from retarded christcuck golem stupidity?
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>>543173451
Older than the supposed flood, indeed. Which is weird.
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>>543169469

Bullshit, if it was real they would have repurposed the wood for building a settlement.
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>>543169469
This isn't confirmed lol what a bunch of bullshit.
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>>543171940
I've seen Christians who said that the original sin impacted the entire world, and is the reason animals have things like painful births. Is this not correct?
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>>543172013
Hey Candace owens. Just a little advice, please embody the phrase "better seen and not heard." You'll do much better.
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>>543171575
You know that the Noah's ark story was ripped off from other flood stories going back thousands of years before the bible right? The summarians had their own ark/flood story, also they have shells on top of mountains because they used to be below water, not everyone who thinks that your religion is bullshit and all of the man made religions on earth for that matter, doesn't believe is a god, there probably is one, it's fuck all to do with your Jewish fairytale though.
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>>543173586
that, too, is the work of freemasons

they also dropped the nuke on nagasaki, which had the largest christian population in japan at the time
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>>543171940
Its hardly a universal idea in Christianity but yeah there's some people that argue that the fall of man is basically why the world in general sucks and why animals eat each other and why parasites and all sorts of other things exist.
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>>543171575
>They screech 'why has prayer never regrown a human limb??" but if they ever saw prayer regrow a limb they'd cry it was evolution and then screech prayer has never regrown a head so prayer doesn't work.
No, this would actually be convincing enough to make me Christian. But I've never seen this or anything on this level, so I'm not.
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>>543173978
>but muh freemasons
Kys thai gook
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fake, gay, and jewish
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>>543174308
do you think joseph smith was the only freemason who created a cult mimicking as christians?
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>>543170241
Evolution isnt real and Christ is king
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>>543174491
He's right though. America's founding fathers were freemasons. You can see their symbols everywhere American influence goes, from the money to the architecture. Open your eyes.
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>>543174308
This post was meant for (You) but I am a retard
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>>543174573
Your Christ didn't fulfill a solitary, single messianic prophecy.
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>>543174491
Seems like that this all powerful god couldn't prevent that like he couldn't prevent his "god appointed" priests who rape children in the catholic church. Like he can't prevent kids getting cancer and autism. Yeah such a powerful god indeed
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>>543171940
>>543173827
It's true. The effects of the Fall distorted the whole of Creation, not just the human world. That Nature is twistedness can be seen in natural suffering and cosmic destruction all stems from sin. It's a basic tenent of Christianity that the world is not as it is supposed to be.
If you don't believe in the reality of the Fall, I don't know how you can be a Christian.
>>543170241
However, that doesn't mean that the Fall happened in empirical history. This is why it was a metahistorical event.
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Why did that prick take two flies and two mosquitos on the ark and not two unicorns and two dragons rookie mistake
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OMFG BETTER WORSHIP A JEW.
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>>543169469
>The deluge being real
basically every culture on earth says it happened.
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>>543174711
you're in a thread about the great flood that wiped out mankind
God didn't intervene back then either until mankind became irredeemable
if i were you i would fall on my knees and do penance
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>>543169469
>daily mail
lol.
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>>543174857
No thanks I don't believe in jewish fairytales
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>>543174929
maybe sumerian fairytales
the oldest story written down by man, the epic of gilgamesh, contains a story just like the biblical flood story
or you can continue to be blind, but don't say you haven't been warned
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>>543170241
>>543169469
the story of noa's ark existed long before the jews stole it as their own, back then the story had several gods,, until the shizo jewish version of today where the same god did everything and wanted to both kill and save them at the same time
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>>543175055
>my sandnigger fairytale is right
>no my sandnigger fairytale is right
Kys thai gook
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>>543171884
Its not wood its metal. History is not what is told
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>>543174735
>If you don't believe in the reality of the Fall, I don't know how you can be a Christian.
Well, it's a profoundly unfair system. Animals don't sin, yet they're getting punished for something two humans did ages ago. God either can't do anything about that or refuses to do anything about it, and neither interpretation looks good.
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>>543174308
if he told him to this woman-shouldered faggot would absolutely get on his knees and kiss the bottom of bibi's shoe. god what an abject crossnigger worm.
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>>543175387
>christcucks sucking off kikes
Favourite christcuck pass time
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>>543173631
Legit q: what *real evidence is there either way?

The actual ocean fossil record in the limestone under them is ancient and can't be dated to a modern 'flood'.
Herodotus fist discussed the machines that built them around the 5th century bc....and the accounts he relayed were already 2k+ years old, so ~2500 bc.
The bible flood according to faith was around ~3300 bc per Septuagint, ~2400 if you believe masoretic genealogy instead.

the masoretic text can be dismissed outright by back of the napkin math (among other things)...

That still leaves two historical and independent (pre-Roman, pre-Christian, pre-rabbinic) ancient timelines that can't yet be reduced to a contradiction.
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>>543175080
I'm saying Jesus wasn't the prophesized messiah, or God. Can you offer a counter argument or are you just going to cry about it?
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>>543169469
Golems being real in a distant past.
Beings of higher dimensions interacting with humans.

I mean religious fundamentalists in the United States called Free Masons and Christians keep beating atheist China over the head with a stick, so why not?
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Zero geological evidence of a global flood. It's not there.
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>>543171575
>My strawman is so silly
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>>543170446
Well it is a book written by Jews after all
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>>543175698
We have ancient egyptian writings that date back to about 3100-3300 BC. I don't think Noah's offspring would have had time to establish a distinct culture and population in that frame of time. Especially as they didn't mention any flood in their writings. The ancient egyptians also had no great flood myths, because the Nile was a very stable system.
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>>543176135
assuming 20-30 million people at ~2500 people
assuming a reproduction rate of 6-8 kids, per 25 year generation
= need a minimum of 265 years to regress back to ~10 people.
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>>543176653
*2500 bc
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Did you know what kangaroos swam to Australia?
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>>543175698
The evidence against the flood is that it's impossible. A global flood would have wiped out all life on Earth, full stop. Even if we ignore the many, many, MANY logistical nightmares in regards to how the Ark was built, how the animals got there, what they ate, where their piss and shit went, what then? Noah and his family and all the animals disembark on a wasteland of a planet, and starve to death anyway.
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>>543176135
They are referenced in Chinese Gun-Yu, Hindu, and Christian texts
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>>543170226
the dinosaurs were actually demons
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>>543176653
The caveats and pedigree collapse. If you haven't heard of pedigree collapse, it's how you grandgrandgrandgrandgrandfather on your mother's and your father's side might be the same person. We don't infinitely branch of in to the past. The branches get tangled.
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>>543174735
>the world is not as it is supposed to be
It's exactly as designed, no? If not, god could fix it instantly to be a paradise for humans and animals but chooses not to because it may cause a minority of humans to believe in him. Seems very narcissistic and psychotic.
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>>543176824
No you don't understand it's a miracle stop asking logical questions
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Oh man, that sounds like some really cool tech to discover Noah's Ark under ground like that. Now let's use it to find all the graves of the jews killed in WW2.
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>>543172598
Westerners are bunch of fags
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Noah didn't bring cats with him on the ark because the Jews would eventually hate the Egyptians who revered cats centuries later ;^)
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>>543169469
My seadoo is also a pile of mud... Veracity and straightness
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>>543176967
hence 'minimum'
hmm, only way to rescue ANY abraham-derived timeline is to say they skipped recording generations, with the only concrete example being matthew 1:8.
one effectively has to reduce torah/septuagint timelines to being simple highlight reels.
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>>543169469
You mean Utnapishtim Ark? You fucking thieving kike.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is more than a thousand years older than the kike books, which is where the kikes got most of their stolen stories from.
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>>543169469
we know there were floods as the last ice age ended, that's where all the stories around the world came from... if you think two of every animal rode on a boat then you might actually be retarded
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Pagan reddit ahtiest be like
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>>543179131
>ad homenim
>zero rebuttal to any logical objections itt
Oh yeah, it's religitard hours
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>>543174735
>The fall didn't happen in empirical history
>We experience it empirically in the present
You recognize this is absurd, right? Also if you're serious about your faith you don't get to pick and choose. The faith says that the fall happened empirically.
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>>543180369
>You recognize this is absurd, right?
ouroboros anon.
stop thinking of "Time" as a linear and understand the universe operates in fractal cycles.
as above, so below
as the past reaches further back a fractally simulacrum arm reaches further into the present future
anons who understand the cataclysm cycles will know what I speak of.
the Old War repeats, on new battlefields.
and the Prize, is the Human Soul.



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