Why do woke people want to legalize drugs? Are they retarded?
Prohibition is the reason for fentanyl deaths and "tranq" being added to street "heroin". Fentanyl is strong and easier to smuggle pound for pound. "Tranq" can be diverted from legal channels
Dude just let people enjoy things, god
no one forced the white trash in that image to do the drugs
>>543173781Some of us aren't as strong.
>>543173776People are so uptight
>>543173781What if he did drugs to escape the pain of his missing hand? you ever think of that
>>543173900>What if he did drugs to escape the pain of his missing hand?Fapping without lube caused this.
>>543173900What if he didn’t lose that hand and he strangled someone to death? Tranq’s not so bad is it.
>see people shitting on themselves, sleeping in filth, clearly look like shit and feeling awful every moment they aren't highdruggies look at the above and go>WOW I gotta get in on that!!
Wellyou knowsometimes I wonder why looking after people in terminal care is the but of the joke for the right wing
I looked after someone who was very left wingand they had the same condition in practical terms of Stephen Hawkingwhere they had lost function of their bodyand you know that experienced made me contemplate a lot about God - and I think the right wing tend to be more religious?I am a little bit right wing but also left wing I guess but I can speak about this experience if you like
>>543173781eat shit moralfag
>>543173679I still remember when “krokodil” was an example of Russia being a fallen state with the flesh falling off their zombie drug users. Now it’s normal in the US together with your hordes of homeless. Joke country.
What worries me isn't the left wing idea of euthanasia It's the idea that the right wing - where a left wing person is in a condition which is such that it naturally makes one contemplate the existence of GodWell I wonder about the dehumanisation of the right towards the leftand the left towards the rightand I think only in a state of profound and incurable diseasethese positions really become trivial bullshit which aren't important
>>543174379I think calling someone a moralfag is dangerous teritorybecause when you take care of someone who is 100% compos mentis but they have lost all function of speech and their bodythings start to change in how you view life, God and family
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>>543173679Doesn't matter if drugs are legal or not junkies will get them and take them whereas non Junkies won't start taking heroin if it's legalised tomorrow. Junkies are scum.
>>543173769Weed and qat should be legalized and and psychedelics rescheduled. Opiates and coke / meth are bad news and shouldn’t be, but there needs to be better rehab services for people who want to get better. And forced institutionalization in extreme cases.
>>543174379And I think we take so much for granted Nina Simone sang - got my head got my feet got my toesand she was so rightwe have no idea how much we take for granted until it is goneSo I want to tell youplease phone your mom, dad - whoever you care about and tell them you love you
>>543174529I understand what you are sayingbut if you want to know the truthbroader concepts of family are an illusionYou find that when you enter a nursing home and these people have been left on their own - European peopleI grew up in housing complexes in a teenager when my mother was a manager of themand the consistent theme waspeople who had family but were left behind -That is the honest truth.
>>543173679I think they should be legal and free so a bunch of people die.
>>543173679Just say no.
I grew up in nursing homesand I went on to look after the elderlythe concept of "european unity"falls a part when you witness these placesthe excuses made - and the gaps you must fill by missing familyI don't say it to say Europeans are bad - I am Europeanbut the concept of Superior Race falls short when the elderly are left to diminish alonehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3YMxM1_S48
>>543174607People should be allowed to put whatever they want in their body. It's a question of autonomy. We have an extreme nanny state with prohibition and its caused more deaths and misery than legal and regulated hard drugs would
>>543173679>woke>druggies>retardedduh
>>543173841>>543174379yeah when one objects to white niggers becoming dope fiends en masse and the women are prostitutes fucking dogs and kids are autists shooting up schools its “moralfagging”
>>543174379I'm sure you would eat actual shit
>>543174862>nursing homeOnly people who hate their parents put them in a nursing home. Your anecdotal evidence has already filtered out people who have healthy families.You use that as proof they dont existHow long have you known you are retarded?
>>543175377I'm crying right now because this really affects meI am not saying it because of raceI am saying it is part of the human condition we are so selfish
>>543173679>Why do SMART people want to legalize drugs? Are they retarded?1. Instantly destroys 99% of organized crime as they could never compete with a legal market.2. Instantly massively reduces contaminated drug supplies as world-class pharma companies produce it with scientific precision for purity and dosage amounts resulting in a COLOSSAL drop in overdoses and deaths3. Opens up pharma companies to research ways to make the drugs safer or develop newer drugs that give similar effects that are much safer/healthier (lifelong repeat customer is better than a dead one)4. Either every citizen is a free actor with liberty to ingest any substances of their choice or they are not. There is no middle ground between freedom and slavery - you are either a free person or a slave.No system is flawless and there will be drug deaths which ever way you go.
>>543175377I would 100% let my parents live with meI am telling you the truth about what happens on this earthand your response is to call me retardedwhich is also part of the human condition
>>543175679Yeah, that's inevitable if people decide to put an end to unregulated drug markets. It's the only thing that will work well
>>543173679Tranq is worse than Krokodil if you remember that stuff.With Krokodil there were some medical photos, some news stories, but you could never really grasp if it was super isolated or common.With Tranq there are a LOT of people in places like Seattle and Philly who have these horrible open sores, exposed bones, horrific wounds, etc. There are a lot of YT interviews where you can see these addicts turning into gore zombies.I don't know how you could do a drug and watch your flesh melt all the way to the bone and keep on doing the drug.
>>543174379Kratom faggot spotted
>>543173679To party
This anon has never been to a party before
>>543173896>virgin tranq nugget vs. Cheeky khat chad
Prohibition of weed isn't working. We need to regulate it by partially legalizing it. The other drugs I don't care as much about
What is that khat thing everyone is now talking about
>>543175679Retarded take.Qing China had legal opium dens and it destroyed their empire from within.You'll grow out of your edgy libertarian phase eventually.
>>543173769No, retard. Making harmful drugs illegal is the reason you don't have things like safe injection sites in your neighborhood and needle disposal bins, as if junkies are responsible enough to use them, in public parks like 20 yards away from where kids are playing.
>>543175034Portugal proves this.
>>543176817They're roughly the same effects. There were a lot of krokodil stories for a while. Be better to let them have real heroin.
>>543173776>>543173896agreed
Does anyone on pol do nitrous? Sometimes you get so high you hear the inside high pitched noises of your ears , just like crack
>>543178313I've had it at the dentist.
>>543178336>which means more drug addicts purchasing more drugsThis isn't the case, though. I wouldn't care if heroin was free; I'm not shooting heroin. I have no desire to try cocaine, either.
>>543175034If people were socialized to be courteous and considerate enough that they wouldn't trespass against, offend against, and negatively impact multiple uninvolved citizens in their vicinity in the course of their drug-seeking, immediately following intoxication, and over the entire course of intoxication, that could be a tenable position.
>>543175679>Instantly destroys 99% of organized crime as they could never compete with a legal marketOnly if the drugs are cheap and plentiful which means more drug addicts purchasing more drugs in a best case scenario.>Instantly massively reduces contaminated drug supplies as world-class pharma companies produce it with scientific precision for purity and dosage amounts resulting in a COLOSSAL drop in overdoses and deathsExcept there are more drug addicts and you've normalized narcotics by reducing stigmatization.>Opens up pharma companies to research ways to make the drugs safer or develop newer drugs that give similar effects that are much safer/healthierThis is just retarded. "Pharmaceutical companies will spend money to give you a better high instead of, you know, creating useful drugs that treat illnesses". Fuck you're dumb.>Either every citizen is a free actor with liberty to ingest any substances of their choice or they are not.Oh, you're a lolbert. That explains the childish naivety, simplistic thinking, and inability to recognize the potential of unintended consequences.You're not a smart person, anon.
>>543173679With all the less horrible options for things to get addicted to it's hard to sympathize
>>543174982Based. I’m trying to quit hooch by drinking 0 beers and hope to not buy a new vape once it dies and I’m off pit for 6+ months
>>543173679Xylacine? My veterinary friend used to use that on animals. Together with ketamine.
>>543178406>This isn't the case, though.It is, retard. When you decriminalize something and make it more accessible more people use it. He's specifically referencing the idea that the "free market" will automatically create safer drugs because he's a naive idiot.
>>543178383>regulate me harder, daddy. I can't control myself unless you further destroy my life if I use things that are bad for me.
>>543173769Fentanyl is much cheaper and easier to make than heroin. That's why it's everywhere. This would've happened even if heroin was legal. You can't even find heroin on the street, you have to go on dnms and search for it. And now we have 50 different other synth-opiods that are even cheaper and way stronger that fent. Now you have to worry about stuff being contaminated with zenes or black market oxys being zene pressies.
>>5431785090 beers as in I’m drinking 0% beers not literally having zero beers lol
>>543178533Look into Portugal's current drug policy and effects.
>>543178543>regulate me harder I'm not a drug addict so my behavior isn't being regulated, brainlet. I'm also not a naive idiot who thinks liberating drug addicts via a simplistic version of the free market will magically solve all societal ills like (You).
>>543178552>Fentanyl is much cheaper and easier to make than heroin.don't forget a hundred times stronger>This would've happened even if heroin was legal.If heroin was legal, people would grow their own poppies, a home market would erupt if the government didn't force regulation.
>>543175679Legalizing weed in California made the crime aspect worse. When it was a grey market you had a million normal dudes growing weed. Now the entire market is controlled by a small group of white collar criminals + cartels are still growing weed in the forests anyways.
>>543178572No thanks. I've seen what happens when municipal governments put safe injection sites in people's neighborhoods and have been to parks where needle bins are less than 20 yards from a playground. Save that propaganda for people dumb enough to believe it (like you).
>>543178125Not as simple as you make it out to be:https://ces.fas.harvard.edu/uploads/files/Working-Papers-Archives/CES_WP136.pdf?utm
>>543178715You don't have any problem assuming my stances, though. So what you're saying is that if all drugs suddenly become legal, free and plentiful, you're not going to do them? I think you'll find 99% of the people on earth would do exactly what they were doing before legality. Heroin is not something you do casually like weed.
>>543178819stupid niggerif you refuse to see the facts, you're nothing but a stupid nigger. I hope you grow up and learn better.
>>543173679>Why do woke people want to legalize drugs? Are they retarded?jews prefer the White Men of the West destroy themselves with fighting with each others, being predated upon by golems the jews sic on them, or the jews subject them to and jewish harvests/wars/civil wars/brother wars the jews start and manage on both sides.So for the drug problem and all problems to be resolved the jews must be destroyed utterly and to the last.
>>543178313best used with other drugs, it can kick a psychedelic trip into high gear, but n2o just by itself is too short acting for my taste
>>543178837>You don't have any problem assuming my stancesIt's obvious you're a lolbert. You're not an intelligent person. >So what you're saying is that if all drugs suddenly become legal, free and plentiful, you're not going to do them? What you or I do in that scenario means nothing, retard. Legalizing all drugs means destigmatization alongside increasing their accessibility. Do the math, brainlet. >I think you'll find 99% of the people on earth would do exactlyCool made up number, retard. If you understood basic economics beyond "free market good" you'd know that increasing access and removing disincentives means you get more of something. Fuck you're dumb.
>>543173679If he never smoked that marijuana cigarette, he wouldnt have shot up tranq and lost his hand
>>543178885>crashes outLol
>>543173679nobody would be using tranq if you could get good legal drugs
>>543178976short acting yeah goes well with weed. Or xans if you want to do massive amounts and not remember it
>>543178990>You're not an intelligent person.top 3% worldwideintelligence isn't empathetic; you can't know how stupid you are by experiencing someone else's intelligence. Trust me, I feel like I'm talking to a retard right now. You only assume that I disagree due to my own ignorance because you don't have the information you need to make that judgment, nor the critical thought processing to arrive at logical conslusions.The world won't be merciful to you. I hope you keep your moronic thoughts to yourself in public.
>>543179016You should probably get a psychiatrist, son.
>>543179067100% this. Same as all of them.
>>543179193>top 3% worldwideLol, no. You're a moron. >intelligence isn't empatheticNever argued it was, brainlet. Sounds like you're trying to come up with a cope for not having friends. Sorry your self-esteem is so low that you have to imagine yourself as some corny high IQ truth seeker but you've already lost the debate.>Trust me, I feel like I'm talking to a retard right now. Turn the brightness up on your monitor so you'll see less of a reflection, lol.>blah blah blah You're a naive idiot, anon.
>>543173781And the niggers to sell it
>>543179375You didn't even understand what I wrote, did you? Right over your head. Whoosh!
>>543173679>create a new Department of Vice>mandate is to monopolize drug trade, sex industry, gambling, alcohol, tabaco, etc>all revenue goes into minimizing the impact of those vices on society e.g public health care, rehab, etc>has power to institutionalize addicts for mandatory rehabilitation until they're clean>severe punishment for any competitionThe solution is to treat vices like we do violence i.e. the state has a monopoly over it and any competition is harshly punished.
>>543173679Making something illegal doesn't stop a lot of people from wanting or using it - sure, average Joe is less likely likely to try it, but there is a dedicated population of potential junkies that are basically the whales of the drug market. These people will always exist and their existence creates an economic incentive for SOMEONE to sell drugs to them.If the drug market is illegal, that doesn't stop that incentive from existing, it just means only actors willing to break the law can access it. So now there's a bunch of junkie money waiting to be spent and you've said 'okay, only criminals can have this money' and act shocked when criminals fill the streets.Junkies get their drugs either way, they ruin their own lives either way, but if the drugs are legal you at least put their money back into the local economy instead of funneling it to smugglers and cartels.There are other benefits, and a few downsides too: gangs have to cut costs since they need to spend extra money on smuggling, weapons, bribes, so they frequently cut product with random shit and put junkies in the hospital more frequently, which hurts everyone else via increased insurance prices. Legal operations have less cost overhead and can be regulated so that happens less. If you have relatively safe legal versions of most major drug categories (soporifics, Euphoric, etc) you might be able to get some junkies using that instead of the harder stuff.Downside: yeah, some average Joe's will go 'oh shit x is legal? I should try it' and ruin their lives. But at the same time, probably less will die in gang related shootings because the gangs have less economic reason to stick around.
>>543178407a lot of people like to drink beer, some even get absolutely shitcanned in the privacy of their own home and bother no one, but because 2% of all the alcohol drinkers in the country like to drive drunk, the other 98% should be banned from drinking. nanny state bullshit.
>making drugs legal will eliminate organized crimeAccepting this premise, you have to understand that you are then facing all of organized crime to get your policy through.However, Canada itself is a great case study for what organized crime akshually will do in that case. Marijuana was formally legalized and organized crime purchased land, opened stores, and so on and so forth. The same growers and so on and so forth also kept doing what they were doing, they just got legal papers.Organized crime is already enmeshed in non-criminal society. It hardly worries about legalization.
>>543179702>more spergingSorry you're ugly, bad at sports, and have no friends but imagining you're high IQ, when you're obviously not, only serves to magnify your many character flaws, anon.
>>543179944hahahanice try, little kidKeep going. Surely more insults will enrage me. You don't have facts or logic or a brain, but insults are just as effective.
>>543173679Fentanyl is eugenics.
>>543175181very j*wish of you
>>543174199stfu faggot
>>543180051>more seething (probably)Didn't read. You're low IQ.
>>543174607meth should be legal so it's not absurdly expensiveimagine all the house work the wife could get done if she was on speed again?are you against clean houses or smth? you commie
>>543180222Plus she'd stay thin too. Based.
>>543174127drugs made my life fucking incredible for like a decade before things went to shit
>>543180253theres not much in a woman's head to damage either so it's win win
>>543175181stop it with your antisemitic remarks before i report you
MAGA lied again when they said Trump ended drugs by bombing random boats.
>>543179901So you're saying the criminals no longer needed to pay armed smugglers to cross the border, pay and arm security to ward the police and other gangs away from their territory, and as a consequence reduced gang related violence without having to do much at all aside from legalizing the drugs?Oh, and the fact that they didn't have to spend money on weapons and were now under regulations meant they stopping cutting their product with random poison and putting more junkies in the hospital?Oh, and now they pay taxes? It's almost like legalizing what the criminals are doing removes their incentives to be violent and increases local revenue for no downside or something. Sure, an ex gang member might start a now legal job at a dispensary and not be arrested for his former crimes, but the entire point of jail is to reform people into nonviolent taxpaying citizens anyway so you basically just skip the part where you have to pay taxpayer dollars feeding them in jail for years.
>>543180143You still haven't grasped what I said about intelligence not being empathetic. You never will. You can't.
>>543173679Well, as an anarchist and former Libertarian, I'll walk you through it.1. The government doesn't have a legitimate role in criminalizing knowing self-harm. If it must exist, its role is primarily to protect people from the malicious actions of others. If someone knowingly takes fentanyl, that's unfortunate, but they shouldn't go to prison for it. And neither should the guy who gave him what he asked for. However, if I were to inject someone with fentanyl without their consent/knowledge, that would be assault, so it might be reasonable to criminalize that. Similarly, if I were to sell you fentanyl while calling it something else, that's fraud. Also acceptable to criminalize.2. Criminalizing possession and trade of a substance people want just creates black markets. You don't prevent anyone from getting what they wanted, but you do create more violence. Remember your US history class on the prohibition era. We ended up with speakeasys and rum runners.3. Since addiction is a form of illness, you are effectively making it illegal to be sick. Which does nothing to actually treat anyone.
>>543173679Crippling people costs your enemy more resources than just killing them.
>>543180618>still madNot reading your posts, bro. FYI: this is your last (You), lol.
>>543180455No, they are all still involved in those businesses too. BTW, that's not just drugs. There's all manners of smuggling that goes on. These gangs are essentially logistics companies.As for cutting product: That is not really a gang activity at the high end. Akshually, I assume that if you legalized heroin for example, you would get independent 'businesses' (junkies selling to other junkies) cutting on their own there too. We only avoided that because we literally gave heroin and cocaine away for free during our trial period in Vancouver.
>>543180968By and by, the recent Canadian gang crime has been related to thieves (literal type as well as blackmail and shakedowns) more-so than drug gangs. Drug gangs don't have anything to gain from murders, particularly high profile murders. And we rarely have drug gang violence of any note. America might be different though, I concede this.
Woke means awake.
>>543180222Meth is dirt cheap.
>>543181145Detected.
Taxation is probably the funniest one. Gangs pay taxes already. They just get taxed multiple times. Laundering incurs greater tax costs. In this sense, legalization is preferable for them. On the other hand, it means they have to re-launder for some ways of divesting the funds to members, friends, family, investments, and so on. Probably a null state for them.
>>543173769Legalize all drugs, ban narcan. There the problem solves itself
>>543181145depends where you live, i can imagine drug markets are fucked up in a place like NZ
>>543181083>And we rarely have drug gang violence of any noteWe do but it isn't reported on very much. As you've already pointed out, legalization wouldn't stop racketeering and clashes over turf.
The short and accurate reply is that liberals have compassion and empathy for people.
>>543180343If there is something that would drive me to want to rabbit punch someone and fuck them up, it's insane antisocial shit like this.
Most of the 'political events' in my province have people who are well-known by everyone to be associated with various unsavory things.This will not go away if you legalize drugs. What will happen, on the other hand, is more people using drugs.Anyway, Asia provides a much more functional model on policy that akshually works to reduce drug harm and drug usage. But people here like drugs so I don't expect drug usage and drug policy to change here.
I use to sell and grow a lot of weed illegally before weed became legal. Once it became legal, I lost all business. I even stopped smoking and growing for personal. I just do not smoke weed anymore period.I just don't care
>>543181312what good has empathy done for White people exactly...?
>>543181534Learn to recognize bait.
>>543175034Yeah hut i dont Wana look at their nasty ass all gook3d out spread eagle on the street I help pay for. Fuck em
>>543173679If a drug is truly bad then the "punishment" of taking them is already the effects of taking them. If a drug isn't bad then the effects are mild enough not to cause lasting problems and can be beneficial. I have personally never done illegal drugs of any kind or gotten drunk because I like who I am and have no wish to impair that.I personally believe all drugs, prescription included should be available to people to take at discretion. People who abuse drugs to harm themselves, provide drugs to others, or purchase drugs at quantities/frequencies that are dangerous should loose this right and require doctor supervision to purchase anything from a licensed vendor going forward. i.e. freedom for those who can handle it and authoritarian for those who can't.
