none of the food tastes right anymore from the store. the dairy is either rotten or tastes like sanitizing chemicals from production.people have forgotten how to care for the food supply of this country.
this is the taste of winning, you lost tranny
>>543214203Don't like it commie? Grow your own cows. Production has been incentivized to create efficiency not pleasure your tastebuds. Israel needs every extra penny that can be squeezed out of it's dog.
>>543214203I just go to a local danish owned creamery for milkIt's 2x the price of storebought but its good and i can buy like 50L at a time for making cheese
>>543214203>sanitizing chemicals from productionbrands matter. Some seems watered down too. My local dairy has the cleanest creamiest, for like a buck more. I'm in dairy country though. I bet some places get it shipped in from God knows where
>>543214203i want shekels goy
>>543214556>Don't like it commie? Grow your own cows.Ya, OP is a faggot and brought nothing to the table for this thread except bitching. It is another 1pbtid slide thread. no, I'm not bumping it
>>543214527It's been like this forever.They changed to plastic, put aspartame and ractapamine in everything. Didn't check to see if ground up yoga mats were toxic to eat, or shredded cardboard.The FDA is retarded and "Generally considered safe until proven otherwise" is why things are the way they are
>>543214887>brands matternot much anymore in my experience.
>>543214556>Production has been incentivized to create efficiency not pleasure your tastebuds.it sucks. instead of excellence, 'a little better than your competitor, if any' is enough.
WINNING
>>543214203You need to heil hitler more
>>543214203Tastes just fine here in Scotland.
>>543215001>a namefag calling someone a faggotI'll bump for you, twat
>>543214203stop shopping at supermarkets, ya lazy bum
It’s the pasteurization. Buy raw milk and then just heat it to kill bacteria. No pasteurization needed.
>>543214203The fuck are they doing with milk? I don't buy gallons anymore because by the time I get to the last 1/3 it's already spoiled, even a week before the sell-by date. Noticed this in the past year.
>>543215100They do in my area. About four local milk brands, from watery chemical tasting 'unknown farms' to super clean and tasty local family owned "Elmer's". A couple bucks separating them.
That‘s the taste of jeet hands.
>>543215001>1pbtidexcept its not a 1pbtid thread.>slide threadthere is nothing more important than the degradation of the fucking food supply.. you dont even know the meaning of a slide thread.
>>543215311depends how local you mean i guess, if its a legit family farm i dont even consider that a "brand" just a farm. unfortunately most people dont have easy access to that kinda thing anymore.
>>543215280well yeah? milk spoils within 2 days after opening the bottle. big jugs are for families.
>>543215385They were family dairies, but big enough to be in store coolers. Wasn't roadside mild or anything.But I'm in the land of Tillamook cheese. Lots of options and grass fed happy libtarded hippie cows.
>>543215566is it even organic? otherwise youre getting glyphosate 100%
Yes, the food supply has been utterly raped over the past 4 years. Every time I buy a carton of eggs, at least one has gone bad. Oranges are all at least partially rotten. Even with shelf-stable snacks, the quality control has gotten awful. I got plantain chips that were damp and gone off last time I went to the store. Get a refrigerated juice or kombucha and it's a coin flip if it's spoiled and just tastes like bitter rotten garbage because some piece of shit wagie left it out of temperature for too long. All those farms and factories burned down during the Biden years, and all the turd worlders now in the supply chain. It's by design, and we will have an engineered famine at some point. Also note that more and more of our food supply is being imported from india, and more packaging is opting not to disclose the origin of the produce within.
>>543215280>>543215535Somethings up with your fridge.
>>543214203That happens when quality is reduced for profit and the entire process is being done by non whites, who knows what kind of shit they do in the factories, they probably piss in the milk and touch everything with shit covered fingers
>>543216081>who knows what kind of shit they do in the factoriesi wonder how well they follow safety procedures thats for sure.
>>543215274Don't drink raw milk you stupid faggotHave you ever even milked a fucking cow? Stuff gets all up into the udders....Pus, dirt, shit all sorts of stuff goes into that milk. I grew up around that the milk that comes out is fucking disgusting without processing of some sort If your logic is that makes you some sort of superhuman you might aswell go drink from the ganghes river
>>543214203You know isreal is making bioreactor “dairy”… should taste the the hint of instant milk to a milk expert. Dannon and it’s associated globohomo garbage uses the bioreactor “dairy”Made from mold
>>543214203Biden passed an executive order to minimize food waste, allowing lowest quality food to be sold instead of throwing out like they used to. It is part of Agenda 2030. Chicken breasts at my grocery store often have gristle and bone shards still attached. The quality has gone WAY down in just the past few years. Stringy meat. Dairy that goes bad quickly, rotten eggs.
>>543216307Why do they pool the milk from multiple cows. It's a guarantee of infection like fucking every whore in the whorehouse
>>543216307If the farmers aren't 3rd world jeet-tier retards, or demonic evil kikes who hate their customers, they're probably cleaning the udders before milking. I guess you really have to get to know the people producing your food and their practices though. The culture of food coming from strangers and mystery conditions around the globe has enabled so much fraud and malpractice at this point, it's becoming untenable.
>>543215795>is it even organic?no, it's fucking synthetic
>>543216713I'm in the deepest of third world. I can meet the cow before I buy the milk. On Sunday it took about twenty of us to catch the chicken
>>543216344Are you a literal faggot? You sound like one.
>>543214203vax status?
>>543216687>>543216713It's in the udder. It's in the squeezeYou raw milk faggots are the biggest idiots i have ever come across here
>>543214203the marts ain't gonna shart themselves
>>543217316Did your nanny pasteurized the milk from your wet nurse, bucko?
>>543216992non-organic means you are eating pesticides.
>>543217316>THEY GOT A BAD SQUEEZE, UNLIKE MY MEAT-AND-POTATOES DANNON COWS! YA SEE, I'VE SEEN A DIRTY COW. I'VE SEEN 'EM ALL! WHAT DO YA MEAN, "HOW DID WE GET DAIRY BEFORE THE 1800'S?" HISTORY STARTED IN 1946! t. boomer
>>543214203>the dairy is either rottenthat's called cheese
>>543217214pure-blood.
>>543217583Organic uses pesticides too, retard.
>>543217448It was Nestle baby formula that first enabled the human brain to develop enough to invent language, tool use, and agriculture.
>>543217631yea, non-toxic things like neem-oil.. heres what organic certified products CANT use, and what you are most likely eating>Glyphosate (e.g., Roundup): A widely used synthetic, non-selective herbicide.>Neonicotinoids (e.g., Imidacloprid): Synthetic systemic insecticides known for high toxicity to pollinators like bees.>Organophosphates (e.g., Malathion, Chlorpyrifos): Highly toxic, nerve-agent-based synthetic insecticides.>Pyrethroids (e.g., Permethrin, Cypermethrin): Synthetic versions of natural pyrethrins, modified to last much longer in the environment.>Atrazine: A synthetic herbicide commonly used in conventional corn farming.
>>543214203Glad I'm not the only one that noticed it. Food from the supermaket all taste weird. I ended up paying for a Costco membership after tasting their Store-brand Salmon. It's cheap farmed frozen trash but way better tasting and higher quality than anything you could find anywhere else. And it's the same with all their products, they are just better than anything you could buy on any other supermarket.
It’s not normal to drink milk and most dairy is foreign to Western digestion. Our ancestors consumed butter and cheese, mostly harder cheese, and, on rare occasions, buttermilk. That’s pretty much it. Milk couldn’t be preserved easily before industrial refrigeration and transportation so it was fed freah mainly only to infants and the elderly because it was observed it caused an immune system stimulating response and was thought of as a lesser substitute to breast milk for babies. Most of the bread you buy in the store contains enriched (bleached) flour. It’s basically bread after you remove all the actual food. The fruit and vegetables are covered in pesticides and so genetically modified that they don’t remotely resemble what those foods used to look like. Furthermore, people preferred to cook their fruits and vegetables because it was understood that plants contain natural poisons that can be neutralized only with careful cultivation or cooking. All the meat comes from animals engineered to have higher body fat, pumped full of hormones, chemicals, and pharmaceuticals, and then are processed in a frankly unclean facility where they gather bacteria and viruses. Almost everything you can buy in the aisles of a grocery market and not around the perimeter are literally not even food but highly processed food products. The only real exceptions to that are canned foods and rice. Even most of the pasta is made with enriched frankenwheat that has additives. Much of what is available to you at any supermarket is either not food, shouldn’t be food, or is food but has been highly modified. This is the main reason people feel better on elimination diets like carnivore or veganism. The benefits come from just eliminating the various sources of poison in favor of just one or two.
>>543217774Many organic pesticides are as toxic, or more, than standard ones. You have zero idea what you're talking about.
>>543217583>non-organicfuck off with your unscientific buzzwords. Cracks me up when I see fags like you pay 3x for "organic." Bet gluten gives you a tummy ache too. Fucking poof.
>>543218043you're a retarded jew anon, just admit it and move on.
>>543218043ok chow down. im not upset about your preference, you're upset about mine.
>>543214203Damn that sucks. Couldn't be me.
>>543218015We are mammals that consume nothing but milk for our first years, dipship pastafag
>>543217448Cows milk is made for baby cow. Baby cows have 4 stomachs and a completely different gut microbiomeWhat a dumb fucking comment
>>543215074My thought is it is indians and lazy people not stopping them from spoiling supply chainsAs simple as not putting things back in a store, then hiding it to ‘save face’ We had not built in controls for this low classthey can abuse the high trust further down supply chains
>>543218098I am more knowledgeable on this topic than you, clearly.>>543218100You're quite literally the one who brought up organic completely unprompted. You're the one with the emotional problem.I'm annoyed at dumbasses who talk out of their asses about things they don't understand.
>>543218329youre having a meltdown. lol.
>>543218285It's not..anyone who makes food can literally put anything into it. It's up to the public and wether people get sick or die to prove otherwise. That's literally the FDA policy, it's why we have so much dumb shit in our food like benzene and xylitol. Sadly jeets get a pass on this issue. Unironically Indian Street food probably has purer ingredients than alot of our shit
>>543218329it's ok to be retarded anon, just own your stupidity.
>>543214203Sorry anon but as you can tell by this thread, the average mutt loves his food tasting like literal trash
>>543218546Yeah, okay. Go pat yourself on the back for spending a 30% markup for a sticker. That'll sure show the Jews.
>>543218100Checked>>543218043>Many organic pesticides are as toxic, or more, than standard ones
>>543214556>Israel's cattle ranch complaining about milkYou have to admit: kind of funny.
>>543218271>Baby cows have 4 stomachsWhat is an obomasum and why is this 4 fudding on milk digestion?
>>543218665Would you like a cookie?
>>543218043>Many organic pesticides are as toxic, or more, than standard ones
>>543218271Cow milk for adults is a super food, weakling.
>>543218043
>>543218687You are advocating drinking raw milk, a disgusting product literally full of shit and then you justify it by saying "oh you drank raw milk and lived"As is already obvious, raw cows milk is for a baby cow. Raw cows milk is not for human consumption it can kill you. Key word...+can+. It has zero benefit to drinking it raw despite the bullshit you hear even your ancestors didn't drink it raw. It was super heated, skimmed for butter and fats before consumption
>>543218665You think people enjoy paying the ransoms for the glyphosate free versions? Of course they dont.. Buy you are eating the glyphosate if you dont.
>>543218774Every person I've ever known that drank Milk as an adult was a fatass. Not saying that everyone one of the milkdrinkers is but it's something to consider. Are you a milkdrinker?
It's reconstituted milk processed to make it not-rotten again>>543218922Mutts really believe this
>>543214203We are in a depression mixed with psychopathic levels of corporate and boomer greed. Your milk and gas is watered down, probably with the same chemical cutting agents...Those with more than you literally do not give a single FUCK about your health or wellbeing. Think about the society that's been forming all these years. It's come to fruition, everyone is cannibalizing each other.
>>543216125>>543216081The question is who regulates it? And the answer... Probably nobody. The fucking libertarians are responsible for this shit. I get that the market should regulate itself its just a bad procedure when you flood your country with the 3rd world in the middle of a war on terrorism.
>>543218922I haven't taken a position on boiling the milk. I have said I would prefer it not pooled and to meet the cow. You are the one suggesting: just boil the puss bro
>>543219027Whole milk, and a lot of it. Never been heavy at all. Have been bashed around a lot, never broke a bone. Dunno if related.
>>543218678>>543218766>>543218823Do you really think organic agriculture uses frogs and ladybugs? Are you that naive?Try boric acid, copper sulfate, and tetracycline.>>543218936And glyphosate is unironically not a problem at the levels present.
>>543219052Kek all i need to do is look at a raw milk Facebook group. Half the people claiming it cures everything, the rest wondering if their explosive or bloody diahherea or larent tuberculosis is from drinking it.
>>543219217>And glyphosate is unironically not a problem And there we have it. The shillbot has revealed itself.You say its not a problem, but it clearly has the side effect of making you attack people who dont want it in their food.
Truth
>>543219354Scroll up. It was the organic tards that chimed in completely unprompted. All I'm doing is responding to the incorrect things they say.
>>543218043>>543218329>I'm annoyed at dumbasses who talk out of their asses about things they don't understand.That's really unfortunate, considering you're just reciting the standard "I heckin' love SCIENCE!"-tier script for midwit "skeptics" that only serves to advance the interest of predatory corps adulterating the food supply for money, and dull reddit faggots looking to play the know-it-all to soothe their wounded inner-child (you). Of course that script was developed by think tanks at the behest of trillion dollar chemical and agricultural lobbies and filtered down to the smarmiest and most incurious within reddit and universities to be recited forever by smug mental midgets with calcified brains.
>>543219354you're a fucking chicken littleBecause glyphosate is highly water-soluble rather than fat-soluble, its behavior inside a cow's digestive system follows a specific pathway:Excretion: Most ingested glyphosate does not accumulate in the animal's tissues or fat. Research shows that about 60% to 70% is excreted in feces and roughly 8% to 10% is eliminated in urine.Cow Health: Veterinary toxicity assessments generally report that typical dietary levels of glyphosate do not drastically alter a cow’s core clinical health, milk yield, or overall energy metabolism. However, minor debates persist regarding how the herbicide interacts with a cow's complex rumen microbiome.3. Presence in Commercial MilkFederal regulatory screening and independent studies show that glyphosate rarely transfers into commercial milk.FDA Testing: When the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) screened for glyphosate residues in foods, it found legal but detectable levels in raw commodity crops (like corn and onions) but no trace residues in market milk or eggs.Dilution Factor: In conventional supply chains, milk from hundreds of regional dairies is pooled together at processing plants. This process heavily dilutes any hypothetical farm-level trace residues, rendering them virtually undetectable by standard testing.
>>543214203They have no reason to care when the social contract is broken. It is only going to get worse from here. There is no point to working hard or taking pride in work that will never get you a home or family. That is the reality for the bottom 70-80% of the country and growing. If you want it done better do it yourself or make sure those people can thrive. If you will do neither then shut your mouth.
>>543219675You say this as if organic farming isn't a multi-billion dollar industry.It's mostly run by the same damn people for fuck's sake. It's just a more expensive line from the same company that profits from people attracted to a practically meaningless label.
>>543214203>2026>still buying "food" in a storengmi
>>543219512You were calmly asked if something was organic
>>543219769>we have deemed the effects of the carcinogenic chemical poison underpinning trillions of dollars in commerce acceptable. t. regulators>söyjak retard indoctrinated by early 21st century faux-intellectualism: "SEE?"
>>543219769Safe and effective?
>>543215274I second the other poster who said cows are dirty but it's also possible the dairy and processor isnt exercising care with their sanitizers (udders and all equipment gets exposed when cleaned) or the processor has added weird "vitamins" into the milk. There's also a possibility of fraud but that can be tested for pretty easily by taking a small sample and putting iodine in it, if it changes color then there is starch such as ricewater in the milk.
>>543220179Check ID's.And don't be disingenuous. That guy was being a cunt in the way he was "calmly asking" and you know it.
>>543220215STFU, you sissy. Regardless of what it is, it isn't in dairy.When the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) screened for glyphosate residues in foods, it found legal but detectable levels in raw commodity crops (like corn and onions) but no trace residues in market milk or eggs
>>543219951The scale of production and revenues are incomparable. The indoctination of multiples of you to become lifetime consumers and advocates of the massive industry supplying tainted produce nets a face-melting ROI.
>>543220325I meant if it changes to dark blue there is starch in it or amber then there is glycogen in it
>>543220235Buy milk from someone who reads the cows bedtime stories, and feed them manna from heaven. It isn't any safer or healthier than my Monsanto juice.
>>543220345You're the one chock full of xenoestrogens with man tits and shrunken little nuts. It's not cool or brave to eat the poor people food just because you know it's bad for you.
>>543220413The ROI on organic is higher than conventional.You're paying the extra premium on the basis of "chemicals scary" propaganda being pushed by, I repeat, the same fucking people who run conventional farms.Organic is quite literally a scam.
>>543215274>>543216307lol my little brother turned into one of those raw milk guysit's just sillyif you prefer the taste go ahead but I've had some. it smells worse, tastes worst, and lasts half as long as regular pasteurized milkhonestly I'd even prefer UHT milk over it and I fucking hate that shit.
>>543220541>drink the poisonI prefer not to
>>543220804You weren't able to formulate a coherent response to me there. It's starting to appear that you arent good at identifying motives and incentives underpinning policy, collusion, and dissemination of information, i.e. you're simply a bit stupid. Maybe you're intentionally ignoring what I'm saying to you so you can try to look like you have a good rebuttal to observers, but I don't like to have my time wasted by retards.
these haven't been updated with the new poison yet
>>543220697you're a fool that fell for the "organic" meme. Do your thing. I stopped arguing with retarded anti-science hippies in the '90s. They are unreasonable.
>>543220943Didn't low energy Bartleby just eat nuts under his desk? Needed more milk.
>>543221261You evoked a "face melting ROI." I responed informing you that the ROI of organic is higher. So that point of yours in kneecapped out the gate.You mentioned a mass indoctrination campaign to make people avid consumers of "tainted produce." I evoked the indoctrination campaign, pushed by the same people, in favor of organic. The only thing I didn't specifically address was the scale of production. That is a non issue. Conventions ag is great at producing food cheaply and at scale. The organic farms exist to extract extra wealth from retards who are especially susceptible to consumerist propaganda. An organic sticker is the produce equivalent of painting "Abercrombie" on a $5 t-shirt.
>>543214203>(((forgotten)))
>>543214203The United States has 10,000 ingredients in their food supply. The EU has 400 ingredients in their food supply.
>>543222420The "10,000 vs. 400" comparison is misleading because it compares total U.S. touchpoints and chemicals (including packaging and processing aids) to EU-approved food additive categories requiring E-numbers.Why the Numbers DifferU.S. Count (~10,000): Includes direct additives, indirect additives, processing aids, packaging components, and pesticide residues.EU Count (~400–412): Refers specifically to approved food additive categories/E-numbers (though the EU also lists over 2,500 separate approved flavorings).False Equivalency: Industry groups note the EU permits most of the same core functional additive types, categorized differently
>>543215334Because its not Jewish Distraction Slop or JDS as i like to call it. Your thread is now a jidf target for disinformation and discrediting because its a legit discussion thread bad mouthing kike multinational control
>>543214203when my merican friend visited me and drank the milk here, he was blown away that it doesn't taste watered down like american milk.
>points at red capI WIN.
>>543219217>And glyphosate is unironically not a problem at the levels presentCowflop. Ag uses glyphosate as a dessicant. It's applied in volume right before harvest and shipment. USDA doesn't test concentration at that point. It literally cancers you cumulatively because it's in everything.
>>543215074>The FDA is retarded and "Generally considered safe until proven otherwise" is why things are the way they areits human greed taking hand outs from wallstreet and other parties selling out their countrymen. they do not care about and they dont eat the same food you do.
>>543214203You might be shopping at the poor person grocery store. You have to go to the expensive one to get real food. I know, Jews right?
>>543223921Glyphosate levels are inspected on finished goods. So you're simply wrong about that.And glyphosate does not accumulate. It's water soluble. You piss it out.
>>543221835Whomst
I just got a gallon of milk that was 1 day over the sell by date and it already smelled like a fart.
>>543214203Your food production line is brown. Less and less whites are in management and QC, it's just going to get worse
>>543228465>white people never adulterated milk
>>543228695>New York
>>543228874>New Hampsterdam
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/poison-squad/
>>543215274>It’s the pasteurization. Buy raw milk and then just heat it to kill bacteria. No pasteurization needed.
>>543221843Source: i just made it all up and typed it in a post box on 4chan.org
>>543223181Its true, you have to buy half and half if you want regular milk in america.. but they make sure to fry it with UHT or add gums and shit to it so you get fucked anyway
>>543214203Why care when your tax dollars are just giving it to niggers and illegals for free?
>>543226136Oof you totally missed his point. Hes saying the exposure over time is what cancers you. But you know this and are here to disrupt with bullshit.
>>543214203>care for the food supply of this countryWhat a dumbass. You haven't realized the goyslop is designed to make you sick and dependent on the medical industrial complex. You stupid goy, you don't realize your owners are slowly poisoning you?
But for real though, no one should be drinking cow milk. It just rots in your gut and gets passed anyway. You dont get any real benefit from it. See milk's goodies are locked up in a chemical called lactase. You body only produces the chemical to break this apart and get the goodies the first six months you are alive. When you need mothers milk. 90% and I mean 90% of the human population is mildly allergic to cow milk. Look it up. Milk does a body good. Notice how they leave the human part out?
>>543229929Good thing we're in the 10% huh
>>543215311>Elmer'sNigger thats glue.
>>543215816Famine will NEVER happen here. Desperate, hunger people would mean risking every infrastructure they've built to this point. They will feed you plastic pellets and sawdust before they let you "starve".
>>543215115Fuck off kike bot
>>543215274Reminder that Nathan Strauss, Jewish owner of the largest department store around the turn of the 20th century normalized pasteurized milk.
>>543229929>You body only produces the chemical to break this apart and get the goodies the first six months you are alive.Wrong.
>>543219889>Social contract is brokenHave the American elites not been enslaving Americans for hundreds of years, kike? You Ashkenazi Jews and mutt feds shouldn't have imported so many shitskins dumbass.
>>543229604Yes many of us know that and that is why we should push for reform and regulations. Milk and beef is healthy for a society, it's no surprise that elites want people consuming less of it. The other anons who say to get cattle to own are spot on.
>>543229452Another kike bot trying to justify giving rotten milk to consumers
>>543230680Nice try Chabad scum. It was regular people that tolerated every act of evil perpetuated in their names and enjoyed it while it lasted. Now they are reaping the whirlwind while also having no obligation to provide you with quality goods or services in exchange for being slaves themselves.
>>543228465That's true, our management is Jewish and third world.
Yeah everything is fucking poison. Almost everything in the store is artificial as can. Maximizing profit on somehow real food has a premium. Imagine defending that. Shop at Trader Joe's and wash the shit out of all of your produce and find a local butcher that's it it's the same advice everybody tells you but none of you faggots listen and keep going to Albertsons, Kroger, or Walmart.Keep whining and don't do anything to change it. You know there's a good safe food grade spray the Trader Joe's sells to spray your produce God forbid you have to wait longer you fat fucks probably don't even eat vegetables.
>>543214203>>543214527>>543214556this is 100% true and Its literally all Drumpfs fault. We NEED to elect a democrat, this will fix things. We need more brown people milking our cows!
>>543216307>>543220325>>543220887>>543229257Why do jews and onions faggot leftists flip out over raw milk so much?
>>543230935So you are blaming the enslaved population, both consumers and workers for the Jewish elites importing millions of third worlders? You aren't a socialist at all.
>>543231003Based posf
>>543231137Heating milk to kill bacteria is literally pasteurization. I forgot I'm on /pol/ so my cat pic wasn't immediately self-explanatory.
>>543231137Because our elites and shills want weak mindless slaves. That means demonizing beef and raw milk consumption.
>>543217795Lately my local costco has been going downhill. I keep getting mold in my onions and garlic. The chickens seem good now but for a good while there they were really shit quality. I kept getting them with broken bones and other weird deformities.
>>543218015>source I made it upWhy are you pretending like people in pre-industrial society would struggle to find a cow for fresh milk in their neighbors back yard.
>>543222420wow yuropoors don't have shit to eat do they? 400 ingredients and i'd bet 30% of them are some variety of bread.
>>543231179Being a slave is a choice, one that has been made for over a century now. Why would I be a socialist when it has only ever been practiced as socialism for the wealthy? There has never been a socialism for the people it is all a lie. Not national socialist or any other color they are all descendants of Bolshevism. They killed over 100 million people last century and no one learned anything or did anything. They actually had the nerve to call the proceeding decades a golden age, not because they created that age, because all those dead people left a financial hole they ate up as part of a ritual sacrifice to Moloch the bankers do every 2-3 generations. They gave up their automatic weapons and shipped their jobs overseas and then flooded their nations with immigrants. They are serfs and never stopped being serfs and get what they deserve until they decide to be humans again if ever.
