I understand He existed but what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinity? How was this person able to completely take over the world after he died, why did so many nations accept him as the Messiah, literally as God on Earth, when they had absolutely no reason to?
He was never even real....asshole
>>543215722There is zero first hand account of Jesus claiming divinity. It was all relayed by a guy named Paul, decades later.
>>543216041Then why were so many people, already with their own belief systems, convinced by some guy named Paul? Whether you think he was divine or not Jesus was the most important person who’s ever lived
>>543215722>How was this person able to completely take over the worldWhy are 4chinners like this? Why do they make absurd claims that just aren't anywhere near the truth?This is not an isolated case these halfwits do it all the time.
>>543215722Jesus' existence is a scam meant to enslave you.>>543216244Because a lot of people benefited from the scam duh.
>>543216004absolutely everyone who isn’t retarded at least agrees on the historicity of Jesus you fucking faggot
>>543216244Paul is way more important.
>>543216273> memeflagSeethe harder, rabbi
>>543216368How so?
>>543215722>what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinity?the works that he did?not even staunch atheists or pagans have a bad word to say about Jesus.they may say he was a jew but thats where it ends.
>>543216041he was persecuted and crucified because he claimed divine origin.
>>543216309then why does Jesus set us free?
>>543215722Paul, it all falls on Paul
>>543216459He may have done many good things but that doesn’t necessarily mean he did miracles or divine things. What proves that? That’s what I’m interested in is why he was fanatically accepted as literally being God by so many people
>>543216041Why are you retarded?Every single one of you who claims Paul is the source of any fundamental doctrine is a satanist shill.Limit yourself only to the writings of Peter, James, and John and you still get the divine Christ.>The entire Gospel of John, opening with "The Word was God">Thomas's Confession of "My Lord and my God"Your entire 'argument' is defeated simply by reading the text
>>543215722>actual proofs of Christ’s divinity?There is plenty of proof for his divinity.
>>543216453He did all the legwork. He got the Roman State onboard. The most important thing Jesus ever did was die. Then Paul could make up whatever he wanted. >No really guys, he had the power to wither figs! I saw it!
>>543215722Some random jews said thats true so it must be true
>why did so many nations accept himChristianity appealed to people in a way polytheism didn't, from the ethics to the personal relationship with Jesus
>>543215722>I understand He existed but what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinity?There are none.>How was this person able to completely take over the world after he died, why did so many nations accept him as the Messiah, literally as God on Earth, when they had absolutely no reason to?Rome picked up on it and went with it because polytheism will always lose to monotheism.
>>543215722>when they had absolutely no reason to?They had the testimony of 66 individual books that spake of Him before he came (OT / 39 books) and spake of Him as He came (NT / 27). You need to humble yourself to the reality of Christ's deity as savior of the world, the Son of God and the Son of Man
>>543216589Simple.His message resonated with the women and the poor, two groups that didn't have a lot to look forward to in life. Christ said "Follow me and get eternal life". Pretty good deal when you're struggling to get by and have no voice. Lots of women donated to early churches and joined up. And the lower classes. Even Roman legionaries.
>>543216004You will perish in everlasting fire, you are a John 3:18 unbeliever. Become a John 3:16 believer instead
>>543216589>What proves that?spitting on the ground to create mud, rubbing it into a blind mans eyes and telling him to wash and he is able to see is a reflection of the creation of Adam by Jesus before the fall.
>>543216641Could you share some please?
>>543216631Yep, "red letter Christians" are a dispatch of satan himself. Christ Himself declared divinity openly and confirmed His own disciples recognition that He is the Christ
>>543216888>His message resonated with the women and the poorAll 12 apostles were men including a well paid tax collector
>>543216368>Paul is way more important.LOLLMAOEVEN
>>543216976Oh come on, you've seen Life of Brian, they're women with false beards.
>>543216041>It was all relayed by a guy named Paul, decades later.>>543216315>Paul is way more important.>>543216565>Paul, it all falls on PaulFor deciding on an important Christian theological issue, Paul didn't go out and create his own church—the Protestant way. He went straight to Peter and the elders to settle a final decision and primacy. Acts 15.
>>543215722>I understand He existed but what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinity? You won't accept the Word of God.Why do you think anything less will convince you?>How was this person able to completely take over the world after he died, why did so many nations accept him as the Messiah, literally as God on Earth, when they had absolutely no reason to?After He died, you see, He rose again.That is the key to His success.
>>543216550Many people describe partaking in submissive fetishes as feeling liberating but I would not transplant that to politics.
>>543216589So, was He a madman or a liar in your view?
Did he really defeat death and ascend, bros? I'm having trouble believing in God.
>>543215722its called having faith in God Jesus and the ones who walk and talk to Jesus.
You have all the same sort of sources that testify to his miracles as you have testify to his existence. You just demand an illogical degree of evidence. Truth be told, there is nothing that would satisfy your demand for proof. God himself could send you a sign and you’d chalk it up as coincidence and superstition, as all disbelievers always do.
>>543216918He did.Like all things valuable in life, it will require a bit of effort on your part.
>>543216844>spoke of him before he cameLol lmao.>>543216888Also a lot of wealthy interests benefited from the scam...
>>543215722It says in a book
>>543216244Rome and Constantinople are the answers you're looking for, that's how it spread everywhere around the world.
>>543217416Fiction.
>>543217420Your trouble come from the sin that you cling to in your life.That is why REPENTANCE is commanded of believers.It is the essential element of revival.>[Mat 3:2 KJV] 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.>[Mat 4:17 KJV] 17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.>[Mar 1:15 KJV] 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.>[Mar 6:12 KJV] 12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.>[Luk 13:3, 5 KJV] 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. ... 5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.>[Act 2:38 KJV] 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.>[Act 3:19 KJV] 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;>[Act 8:22 KJV] 22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.>[Act 17:30 KJV] 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:>[Act 26:20 KJV] 20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
>>543217420I struggled with belief until I understood the intellect alone can’t lift you to understanding. What it takes, and Christ tells us this via the gospels, is to open your heart. The brain explains and justifies belief in Christ, but it’s the heart that knows him intimately. There’s a joke in the church that says something like “an unwise man prays for brain to gain wisdom, but a wise man prays for a heart to love”. There’s a lot of wisdom in that.
>>543215722Ok, I'll biteWhat are (would be) proofs of divinity, according to you?
>>543217546>LiarFine.Thank you for answering honestly, if incorrectly.
>>543216413>rabbiWait till you find out what Jesus' profession was XD
>>543217596Well a fictional character can't be a liar, that would be the person who came up with the character.
>>543215722Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E
>>543217652>King Gustav Vasa of Sweden
>>543215722Testimony of witnesses who refused to back down their testimony despite torture and death. Better evidence than any religion.
>>543217420I want you to imagine all the people who benefit from you believing in that scam laughing at how dumb you'd have to be for falling for that scam.
>>543217712What the???
>>543215722Shroud of Turin
>>543217715Also made up characters btw. And practically every religion has real and fictitious characters like that.
>>543215722The Gospels come to us from a variety of different sources. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John lived at different times, relatively close to Christ (Mark saw Christ as a child) but they all give the same account. They didn't know each other but they all converge on this: Christ himself said he was God, and he was resurrected. Time for doubt is over, it's time to believe and come back to the roots, anon.Look at who hates Christ. They doubt as well.
>>543217775According to Russia, Finland is a work of fiction too.
>>543217822>made upNot according to every serious historian who recognizes the Apostles as historical figures. Are atheists capable of arguing without denying long established science?
>>543217624
>>543217893Very cool. Also completely irrelevant.
>>543217976>Every serious historianI'm sure they have plenty of evidence and they're totally not referring to consensus.
>>543217750The many thousands of priests and saints who live extremely difficult lives accompanying the dying, the needy, the poor are all in on it
>>543215722He didn't exist. It's all lies because any other story similar to that one, with similar shoddy sources and falsifications would have been dismissed by everybody.It's sort of an IQ test for gullibility.If it helps, this doesn't mean you shouldn't be religious. White man has his own Gods which are real. Just don't believe in kike stories.
>>543218110Again, as with others, the reason you REFUSE to believe is because it would require you to admit that you are fundamentally wrong and renounce your erroneous ways.Proof abounds.There is a flood of it.You chose to die of thirst rather than admit being wrong.https://youtu.be/1QdUhNY6DnY
>>543218162Nice fedora
>>543217873lol 3 of the 4 gospels just use the first one as their source
>>543215722Oriental mystery religions promising special secret access to paradise in the afterlife were already popular at this time in the Roman empire. This was also the height of messianic judaism when you could find a random jew on every street corner claiming to be the messiah. paul simply had the idea to take one of these and create a mystery religion around him, but without the mystery part. You got all the salvation with none of the initiation. It initially spread among slaves, the poor, and women as you would expect of a religion that is so obviously a false con job. But then some members of the Roman aristocracy figured that the whole "don't worry about how shit your life is, you'll be rewarded in heaven" thing would be really useful for controlling the population. So they adopted it as the state religion and banned everything else (except judaism, curiously enough). Once it took over Rome its spread to the rest of Europe and then the world became trivial.
>>543218358>starting a sentence with lol how's 8th grade going?
>>543215722>what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinity?None
>>543217362>submissiveGod is the one empowering you out of being a slave to sin.
>>543218358Matthew highlights Jesus as Messiah.Mark highlights Jesus as Servant.Luke highlights Jesus as Man.John highlights Jesus as God.They are not sources one for the other.They are four independent accounts by four separate people giving the view of Christ from four different perspectives.
>>543215722>How was this person able to completely take over the world after he died> why did so many nations accept him as the Messiah, literally as God on Earth, when they had absolutely no reason to?For the same reason that so many government have holocaust denial laws.
>>543215722>understand He existed but what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinity?Isn't Jews word is good for ya people?
>>543217750you will eat these words once you stand before him in judgement. just saying.
>>543218395So it was a secret evil plot by the Romans and the Jews to make Jesus, who they are both responsible for murdering, their God…
>>543218156So how do you feel about all those Muslim and Buddhist clergy doing similar stuff?>>543218244You know repeatedly saying you're right doesn't make you so?
>>543218791>You know repeatedly saying you're right doesn't make you so?You don't.Why should anyone else?
>>543218244>Proof abounds.>There is a flood of it.Not really
>>543218492I'm old enough to be your grandfather. you little faggot
>>543215722Compared to all practiced religions, Christianity is superior to all. Simple as. I do wish Christians would realize that Jesus didn't teach suicidal empathy, though. Christie shouldn't be the cucks they are. This has nothing to do with your post btw I just like triggering atheists lol
>>543215722>How was this person able to completely take over the world after he diedSome guy named Saul said "Forget about what Christ said. You don't have to cut off your foreskin or stop working on Saturday. You can eat all the pork you want." So a bunch of goy-slaves in Rome converted.
>>543218694>Damn impressive not falling for scams>I am the tribal god of Hausa people but your commitment to truth and evidence has convinced me to let you in anywayAlso needing to make supernatural threats just betrays how your 'religion' is a fear based scam.>>543218609Enough with the fetish talk.
>>543218826Describing something as a scam and providing a causal mechanism for how it spread is an argument, not just me saying that I'm right.
>>543218791>how do you feelCan you stop being a faggot or is it required in your religion? Besides, as they say the Catholic faith is the hardest one to practice.
>>543215722>but what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinity?He rose from the dead, and everyone understands that He rose from the dead.Only children of the Devil say otherwise (those who lie while knowing the Truth).
>>543218978Jesus is not a tribal God but the God of all creation.also its not a threat, its a fair warning and call to repentance.
>everything he did was real, which is why dozens of people went “holy shit that guy actually was a real wizard, I need to find a scribe right the fuck this instant & record this for everyone to know.”Oh wait, none of that happened, all the recounts were done decades later by people who were secondhand there. If any of this was actually real, the reaction people would have would be drastically different just on an objective level. Even if writing was rated, it doesn’t mean people didn’t know it existed. It doesn’t mean people didn’t go through great lengths to try and find someone to write it down.
>>543219088>Describing something as a scam and providing a causal mechanism for how it spread is an argument, not just me saying that I'm right.Providing copious evidence that you simply refuse to even consider is not me being wrong, it's you being a prideful moron.
>>543219098>No answerBet you feel real dumb now huh.>>543219165Genuine question, have you ever had an IQ test?
if that's your standard then islam is far more impressive, massive quick military expansion within the first centuries of its birth vs christianity's shrinking and humiliation after a bolshevick tier takeover of an established civilization
>>543219238Well for me to consider being wrong you'd need to refute the causal mechanism I provided.
>>543219390>Well for me to consider being wrong you'd need to refute the causal mechanism I provided.No.I don't.Your salvation, or lack thereof, is between you and God.I have done the part I am called on to do.You have been given the choice.What you do with it is your responsibility.
>>543219494>Waaah waaahhh he won't fall for my scamLMAO XD
>>543218739No. It was a plot by jews to subvert the Roman empire, who they hated. No different from trannies or communism. But it succeeded far beyond their wildest imaginings because the republican form of government had selected for the Roman ruling class to become backstabbing rats themselves.>small company wants to take down bigger competitor>gets idea to poison the competitor's employees to make them retarded>competitor finds out and thinks it's a great idea because then they won't unionize>proceeds to willingly administer the poison themselves>this eventually becomes a standard business practice by most companiesWould that make the poison a good thing?
>>543219639>Waaah waaahhh he won't fall for my scam
>>543219746This nigga believe in Jewish mythology.
>>543216041SAUL ...call him saul,dead name the fuckin jew
>>543219826Sure thing golem.
>>543215722>what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinityThere are none. Whether or not the guy existed at all is in question.
>>543219660I don't like comparisons between Communism and Christianity given how Marx constantly shit talked the jews and how the USSR actively waged war against Israel post 1956.
>>543219945According to you all humans are golems. Your god Yahweh created humans using a golem spell on some dirt. I bet your retarded ass actually thinks that's what happened.
>>543220086>I bet your retarded ass actually thinks that's what happened.
>>543220139No cosmologist believes there was a literal nothing, you retard. The first law of thermodynamics forbids it.
>>543219987>Marx constantly shit talked the jews and how the USSR actively waged war against IsraelBoy, you really are an intelligent one, aren't you?!I can see how you think that you are smarter than God.I have a hard time believing He would make someone that stupid too.
>>543220216So you admit a Creator, yet reject the Creator's own account of creation.
>>543220296No, retard. Your reading comprehension must be stuck at the 3rd grade level. An eternal universe doesn't need a creator. The same way your Semitic genie-god doesn't.
>>543220234How does you image address the Soviets shooting at Israelis?>>543220296No actually I'm the creator of the universe.
>>543220435>How does you image address the Soviets shooting at Israelis?>>543220435>No actually I'm the creator of the universe.Well, you need to have a talk with this guy, then...>>543220411
>>543220234Also now that I think of it how the fuck does your brain even work? So you hate Communism for being jewish, yet Christianity which is EVEN MORE jewish and describes the goyim as subhumans in its canonical works is somehow fine????
>>543220488Yeah I don't think the point of that image is that the two long nosed dudes start shooting at each other XDDDDD
>>543215722Because the Gospel itself creates the faith needed to believe in it supernaturally.
>>543220530>Christianity which is EVEN MORE jewishHow do you remain ignorant of so many topics all at once?It's like this is your first day on the internet.Judeo was created in the second century as a reaction to the fact that Jesus Christ fulfilled the Old Testament and instituted the New.JUDEO=ANTICHRIST:>[1 John 2:18] Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many ANTICHRISTS; whereby we know that it is the last time. >[1 John 2:22] Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST, that denieth the Father and the Son.>[1 John 4:3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now aleady is it in the world.>[2 John 1:7] For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an ANTICHRIST.
>>543215722>I understand He existed but what are the actual proofs of Christ’s divinity?I think I've only accepted that he existed just this year, a few months ago. Outside of the bible, there are practically no other firsthand attestations of his existence. That remains true, but I think I put too much stock in it. There must be literally millions of people from that era that no one ever wrote about, not even so much as an inscription on a tomb. If someone told me their name and insisted they once lived, why would I insist that person did not exist? It's unclear that benefit of the doubt is the correct principle in such a case.But what changed my mind was, and this will sound corny, I read the Book of Mark. I wasn't visited by some Holy Spirit, and I'm very far from being a believer, but it is a truly bizarre story in ways I think neither atheists nor Christians fully appreciate it. There are nuances within that would be impossible for a fiction writer to have fabricated in that era. Difficult even today, I should think. It is both the story that everyone knows, believer and nonbeliever alike, but it is also nothing like that all at the same time.In it, he does not claim divinity (though many seem to expect it of him). He is not resurrected. It makes no claims of royal lineages. There is no nativity scene. He's just a guy on a donkey who rides into town. Collects some followers. Battles demons. Tells people to tell no one that he was there. Corrects his followers that this one isn't demonic possession, it's epilepsy, can't be exorcised. Eventually pisses off the jews so bad they murder him.Two women go to his tomb, find it empty, and a strange man (who seems to behave like angels are said to) is there telling them Jesus is gone. I keep re-reading it, because there's much that makes little sense, but not in a schizo way, like someone expected people to be able to understand its puzzle.
>>543215722It's a scam and everyone knows it. Unlike the real gods, Christ never answers a prayer. He was a failed fraudster and doomsday cult leader who got executed for his crimes. They had a very simple reason: Violence. The Christ worshippers were bloodthirsty fanatics who massacred anyone who tried to reason with them. So everyone joined their big game of pretend. Until it all fell apart 200 years ago. Most Christ worshipper nations are women-led sodomite nations now. Late-stage Christianity. They think because their god is a scam, every god is. They will soon learn insulting the gods is a bad idea.
>>543220411>An eternal universe doesn't need a creator.An eternal God doesn't need your approval.You place yourself above God and sit in judgment of Him.He does not live up to the image you have created for your own ideal god or "universe".You are an idolater, and a lazy one. You don’t even bother to carve up a block of wood, you simply create a fantasy and try to immerse yourself in it.You complain about all things God does and many things He doesn’t do. It’s almost like you were created to hate Him. Like you are the bad example set forward as a warning to the simple. You kvetch and reee, but you refuse to admit any wrongdoing on your part.God himself says that the damned reject him and will never surrender their pride and change.You prove that.You want nothing to do with God or His heaven.He simply agrees with you and you get mad about it.He made a place for those who hate Him. He will leave you alone, forever. He is light, so it is dark, forever. He is love and comfort, so there is none to be found there, forever.Is God wrong about you?Then simply change your mind. Accept Jesus as your savior. Trust that He died for your sins on the cross, was buried, and rose again, exactly as it had been prophesied.Or...don’t.Either way, accept responsibility for your eternity.You won’t have it any other way.
>>543220825>'Muh aryan g-ds!https://youtu.be/W9SylUbbr8w
>>543220754Because Jesus wasn't a random guy. If any of the stories about him were true, he would have been famous. Jerusalem was a very important city to the Romans. It was on the way to Alexandria. If Jesus was there causing trouble, a dozen Romans would have written about him.
>>543220296>the Creator's own account of creationAccording to who? Why don't you worship Odin or Ahura Mazda or Izanagi?
>>543220674>Rabbi born from the line of David who preached in Synagogues and maintained Mishnah, held Abraham's lineage as the highest, called goyim subhuman dogs, and identified himself with the deity being worshiped in the second temple by the kohanim isn't jewishIf jesus wasn't jewish why the fuck are there MULTIPLE genealogies of him in the bible? Hell if he wasn't jewish how could he fulfill all those old testament prophecies of being the moshiach?
>>543220411So, it just is, no explanation. No point. Totally arbitrary, accidental even. Is that how you understand your existence?
>>543220942Who are you even quoting, you retarded child-molesting homosexual? Go preach your granny scam cult elsewhere.
In this thread, I primarily argue with a Fin,an American,a German.>FAGs>>543220983GOD.>>543221024Why do you assume the people who claim to be jews are the real ones?>[Rev 2:9 KJV] 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.>[Rev 3:9 KJV] 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.https://youtu.be/aNfM7xnUaOc
>>543217460Scam of Turin
>>543220983>Odin or Ahura MazdaReal heroes btw.
>>543221159>Go preach your effeminate cuckold pagan larping fantasy scam cult elsewhere.
>>543216244They were forcibly converted stupid
>>543219746That's what you believe, you lying kike
>>543221169I didn't realize they suction-wrapped christ in a modern 5,000 thread count ultra-fine wet silk.
>>543216641You cdont even have one
>>543221025Just because something makes you upset doesn't mean it's wrong.>>543221165Nowhere does my argument depend on the identity of modern jews. Also that line is talking about one Church which was deemed heretical for being TOO PRO GENTILE.
>>543221271Which part of my question don't you understand, pedo?
>>543219945You won, tranny
>>543217460All you have is a scam
>>543221169Prove it, scientist.>>543221306Your religion only requires the miracle of nothing simultaneously being something...that then explodes.
>>543221025You're just doing the god of the gaps argument without knowing it. "We don't understand X, therefore Yahweh is responsible." You don't get to assign a cause just because it makes you feel important. We don't know and likely never will. It could be that there is no other alternative but for existence to exist. On an infinite timeline, everything that could happen already has happened an infinite number of times. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter because people ultimately decide what has meaning in their life and what doesn't.
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>>543217591>i struggled until i realized I have to retarded to believe Jewish fairy tales
>>543217792Scam of Turin.
>>543221024>If jesus wasn't jewish why the fuck are there MULTIPLE genealogies of him in the bible?Because Saul the Jew made shit up. Him, his butt buddy Matthew, and a few of the other jews in his entourage. The hilarious part is that (possibly) they thought they were doing Jesus a favor, proving to everyone that he was of the lineage of David. But that's all just horseshit.>>543220950>If any of the stories about him were true, he would have been famous.Obviously he's now the most famous man in the world. Even within a few centuries of his death, this would have been true. But that's not the same thing as being famous while he was still alive. It is perhaps somewhat unlikely that he wasn't written about outside of the bible. A troublemaker like him might well have "made the news". But that he wasn't written about isn't impossible either. The Romans really didn't given a shit about the backwaters of the empire. And it remains true that the gospels, in particular Mark, cannot reasonably be outright fiction. Modified since it was first told or written down? I'll buy that. "Made up"? No.
>>543221333If you read your baybul, you'd know they wrapped his head separately
>>543221025Then god just is, it's the same thing.The difference between an atheist and a theist is that they disbelieve less gods, but claim the one they worship is the correct one.The epitome of arrogance
>>543221271This is why christianity appeals to Americans since they've been completely deracinated. In Europe pagan traditions are more than alive. Hell that grandma is probably about to participate in one. There's a reason the few people who've taken Christianity seriously have tried shit like changing the names of days or ban christmas/yule, to no avail.
>>543221413Prove it? The burden of proof is on the claimant, imbecile
>>543221336>Nowhere does my argument depend on the identity of modern jews.Yes, it does.You accuse Jesus of being a JEW, knowing full well what that means in modern parlance, especially on /pol/.>>543221358Which part of my answer do you not understand?>>543221377>All you have is a scamAnd all you have is delusional hearsay.
>>543217591Explain this
>>543221274It's more so that nobody could read so when some dude told you that Odin had a son called Jesus and if you accept that you get access to Roman trade most people happily accepted.
>>543215722>proofsFaithlet detected.You will have the proof when you start praying in earnest, even if you're doing so as an atheist. Pray humbly, pray honestly, pray consistently, you'll be a Christian inside a month if your heart is open.
>>543221432>this is the god of the Europeans, some tranny fallen angel who sells his own people to Muslims and gets thrown into the lake of fire.
>>543221523>In Europe pagan traditions are more than alive.In Europe, the WHITE RACE IS DYING.>>543221548You are the one claiming the evidence is not true, therefore you have the burden to prove it otherwise.You will appear in the COURT of God one day, where evidence will be necessary, not the RED-TIT forum echo chamber where you ban everyone who disagrees.
>>543221561You're the one spamming "communism is jewish" images. If you think they're impostors why do you use the name and associate them with the pharisees, which according to you have no relation to modern jews?
>>543219851He used Saul and Paul interchangeably, you retard. Saul was his Hebrew name, and Paul was the Roman version he used with gentile audiences. He didn't suddenly change his name after his experience on the road to Damascus, that's just midwit r/atheism tier misconception because you retards don't actually understand Christianity on the most basic level.
>>543221705Wait till you find out who's funding all those refugee resettlement agencies.
>>543221718>spammingThat is a very precise accusation used to get people banned, usually for disagreeing with a poster who cannot defend his point.The intellectual failings of atheism will never survive close examination.Since that's how you want to play, feel free to argue with the other atheists.
https://rentry.org/shroud-of-turin-27042026/>>543216041You probably know how Paul came to Christianity and his story (he was a pharisee who persecuted the early church until a vision of Christ appeared to him)> Paul’s Vision and His Thorn> 12 I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to be gained, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord. 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3 And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. 5 I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weaknesses. 6 Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say, 7 or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.2 Cor 12
>>543221854That you for you concession. Will you now promise to stop yapping, or will you pretend tomorrow that this discussion never happened?
>>543221880Pauls talks about himself in the third person. He had seen heaven for a short time during his vision when Christ first appeared to him.
>>543218110Gospels and Tacticus talked about Jesus closer to His life than any biography of Alexander the Great that was preserved to this day.
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