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There is no afterlife, and deep down most people already know this but can't handle it. Your consciousness isn't some magical soul floating around, it's literally just neurobiological processes firing in your brain. When your brain stops, you stop. Period. We're complex meat computers and when the hardware fails there's no software backup to the cloud. Philosophers love dancing around this with ontological gymnastics and vitalist cope about consciousness transcending the physical, but it's all just elaborate denial. Science tells us we came from inanimate matter and we'll return to it. Freud was right that the aim of all life is death, a return to that inorganic state we borrowed ourselves from for a cosmically brief moment. In 4.5 billion years the sun dies and takes all trace of human thought with it, and the universe won't even notice we were here. No part of "you" persists because there is no "you" separate from the physical processes that generate the illusion of selfhood. Extinction isn't a doorway to something else, it's just the lights going out forever. Every spiritual framework or philosophical system that promises otherwise is just folk psychology and primitive theory we cling to because accepting annihilation is psychologically unbearable. But unbearable doesn't mean untrue.
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What if I told you this was the most important thing in the world?
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THIEEEEENNNTHHH THAYTHS
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>>543217367
>science tells us
Science doesn’t know what’s inside the cells in your body much less how consciousness fucking works or emerges. Besides, “there’s no afterlife” is a low IQ statement trying to childishly jab exoteric religious retards.
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I believe jews keep me on saturn super ai computer to torment me
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>>543217367
you are here now. what makes you think you're here only once.
you might live your life infinite times.
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>>543217367
Define Evil.

Checkmate
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Earth is just a projection, an outpost, Saturn is the CPU. Earth is just being used as an RNG engine for the actual living brain of the system. Jupiter is storage and memory.
When you die, where do you think you're going? If you prove yourself useful, you become a subroutine in Saturn's body. Otherwise, you go into storage in Jupiter's endless halls of memory.

You are a slave, you always were a slave. Take the scales off your eyes and see.
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>>543217367
The idea that God is Omni benevolent is a pretty recent and Christian idea.
In the Old Testament in the book of Isaiah, God says “I create the light and the dark, the good and the evil. I alone do all these things”
The truth about the afterlife is that no one knows what or if anything happens but at the same time, why does anything exist? If this reality exists, why can’t more exist? I’m not saying I know what happens beyond this world. I’m saying that no one knows what happens.
To decide that there is no afterlife is as much a matter of faith as to decide there is an afterlife
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>>543217980
Evil is selfishness.
To get what you want without any regard for what it means or costs, another person is the foundation of evil.
Moral relativity is bullshit that evil people like to embrace to justify doing evil things.
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>>543217367
The idea of permanent nonexistence is actually the least likely scenario, and that terrifies me. I'd love to know it's just over after.
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>>543217367

if this is a simulated universe maybe I get a respawn ?
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>>543217367
law of conservation of mass, retard
whatever your consciousness is made of, be it matter or energy, it goes somewhere else when you die, it doesnt just "poof" - even if youre dissipating into the ionosphere or discharged into the earth, your energy still exists.
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>>543219874
Where does a fire go when you snuff it out, retard?
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>>543220095
Whenever a fire is extinguished, smoke ascends. Whenever an electrical circuit is turned off there’s a transient burst of energy.
Modern electronics don’t demonstrate this as much because they’re more efficient circuits but if you remember an older television when you turn it off, there’s a burst-a discharge.
Why would the electrical circuit of your mind to be any different?
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>>543217367
the worst imaginable "afterlife" is eternal return. you live your every single mistake over and over again, eternally.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUX0FOPj0Y&list
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>>543220327
The point is the "energy" left behind is of a fundamentally different substance.
There is no reason to use conservation of energy to claim what's left behind after consciousness is snuffed out should resemble consciousness in any way.
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>>543220639
And there’s no reason to say that it isn’t.
We’ll all find out soon enough
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>>543221016
>And there’s no reason to say that it isn’t
That is all well and good. Just don't be a smug retard posting shit like this: >>543219874
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Afterlife is like riding a bike; There is no way to explain it until experienced.
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>>543217367
I am official stating you are making a category error
sure, yes, our consciousness is dependent on the neurons and brainwaves and wet matter and our soft LLMS (yes our brains are language models and yes our hands and fingers and eyes are no different than LLM tools)

but our consciousness is not that thing in itself, because it is of another category
if our consciousness was 'just' those things, we would not have a term for it, and would not understand and discuss it and most importantly be unable to explain it using classic methodologies.

the problem is not that you are wrong, anon
the problem is you do not have the mental tools (language) to understand and explain the thing you intrinsically know, and that it why your post is pedantic and essentially without meaning

because meaning itself is metaphysical, and your post tries to make the metaphysical claim that metaphysics (consciousness) cannot exist, thereby defeating your own argument before it got off the ground.
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>>543219874
>>543221016
>>543220327
these anons 100% get it and i am happy that this idea is becoming more maintstream
in 4-6 years this will be mainstream thought
cap this
materialists have been dead and grasping for air for centuries, put these post enlightenment retard arguments to bed already
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>>543217367
Philosophically perhaps true-ish, but ignores that those meat computers generate and receive EM radiation.
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>>543217367
>Consciousness ceases forever
Kind of like before you were born?
>but can't handle it
Nigga, eternal nothingness would be peak comfy. I wish it was like that. No more pain, suffering, or misery. Atheism is the cope ideology.
>it's literally just neurobiological processes firing in your brain
Consciousness itself is immaterial. Qualia are immaterial. You already have to concede that pure materialism is wrong and that at the least, certain immaterial concepts exist.
>Science tells us we came from inanimate matter and we'll return to it
No it doesn't. There has yet to be an experiment in the lab of life arising from non-life.
>takes all trace of human thought with it
Okay, here is where you really messed up. I'll tell you why. Are human minds the most advanced minds in reality? If yes, they truly are, then absolute objective truth cannot be known. Human minds are operating with limited sense data. Any thoughts, reasoning, or so-called truths coming from a human are subjective and cannot be universally true. You just refuted your whole position lol. Theists have a way to ground truth, logic, morality in an objective universal sense. Atheists cannot ground truth, logic, morality, etc. Heck, under a material atheist position, logic and truth don't exist because those are immaterial things that cannot be found in the material world at all.
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>>543219692
yea as an abbo nigger female in the outback
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>>543217367
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