Hitler made Dirlewanger a Waffen SS Commander after he had an affair with a 13 year old! Hitler also tried to set 40 year old King Edward VIII of Britain up with a 17 year old!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII>In 1934, Adolf Hitler, seeking to forge a link between the British and German royal houses, asked Victoria Louise to arrange a marriage between the 40-year-old Edward and her 17-year-old daughter, Frederica of Hanover, who was then at boarding school in England. Her parents refused, citing the age gap, and Frederica later married Paul of Greece.Hitler would've opposed Pedo Hunting! Hitler believed that Puberty was Adulthood!Are you loyal to the Fuhrer, /pol/?
>>543218552Shalom my 1pbtid friend, how's the weather in Tel Aviv?
Hitler would have had you killed for being an annoying sperg who shits up the board and replies to his own threads to keep them from getting archived
>>543218652Actually, Hitler was an autistic painter that took meth, Hitler was a /pol/ack sperge himself.
>>543218552Agecucks need to all be violently slaughtered in the streets.
>>543220716lay out your vision
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>>543220716Is it just me or do you haver stronger emotions and desires when you are a teen? I am not horny anymore and barely care about women. My emotions are much flatter than back then.
>>543223194That's because you are programmed to find a mate & reproduce once you hit puberty like any other animal, biological instinct. The drive goes down as you get older.
>>543218552In every single human civilization throughout all of human history, a girl was considered ripe and ready once she finished puberty. It's only in our modern society built on humiliation rituals that fucking a girl who's 17 years 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds old is considered to be morally the same as raping a 10 year old.
>>543218552The age of consent in Germany was and is 14Wait a minute, we already had this thread. Whatcha doin rabbi?
>>543218552>Hitler believed that Puberty was Adulthood!Because it isBecause every mamml on earth reaches sexual maturity at pubertyYou believe humans are special and have to wait longer though since kikes taught you so
>>543218552we need more pedo hunting as well as child abuse reporting
>>543223634OP makes hundreds, if not thousands,of threads per year and most of them are age of consent schizo babble
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>>543224180part 2clik file name opens new tab clik plus sign
>>543223955>call facts regarding the age of consent schizobabble because you are triggered by itYour 18 age theory is arbitrary, fragile & meaningless & it makes you mad!
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>the nazis did it !>ancient romans did it !>neanderthals did it !>chimps do it !Its completely legal and still practiced in half of Europe, a fact subject to national security tier data compartmentalization protocols within all US/UK online platforms
>>543224748But were talking about Germany, where the AoC was (and still is) 14
>>543226373How many times do you need to be told? As long as you abide by 18 as the age of majority, all that's going to happen is that feminists in those regions are going to cry about grooming & so those regions are going to ultimately push their age of consent up to 18. Spain, South Korea & Japan hiked their age of consents from 13 to 16 a few years back. Bulgaria pushed their Age of Consent up to 16 from 14 this year. If you want the consent age to go down, you need to bring the majority age down in order to move the overton window in the puberty=adulthood direction. If you refuse to recognize under-18 teenagers as full adults, you are going to lose the game, because feminists are going to fallback on the age of majority being 18 and since you refuse to question the 18 age of majority, you are going to lose the argument.
>>543226720see>>543226999
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>>543218552When boomers are gone no one will save you kikes.
>>543218552>the charges were later dropped against him.
such an obvious shill thread >Hur dur Hitler so based. bankrolled by certain groups, destroyed half of Europe...so based >Hitler and Hannibal and neanderthals and jihadists and chimps practiced it guys ! BASED !>Dont point out the law in half of Europe or the current position of the Catholic Church ....keep talking about how the Neanderthals did it !>Keep it as low IQ as possible as the glowie handbook on the issue states Also just to be perfectly clear, there is a danger discussing this issue that idiots and yes, PUA type assholes will take certain facts as an invitation to take advantage of situations.That does not however mean the subject should be censored and subverted in the way it is. The fact that mainstream legal/cultural realities about major western european countries are subject to north korea tier suppression on anglo forums is insane.How did it get the point where promoting the view that standard German law is better than British law is banned on this site ? Or that showing cannon law on marriage (which correlates with European laws) is not allowed to be expressed ? The entire site does nothing but incite actual racist sentiment towards third wold migrants (you dont think that leads to real attacks and so on). I express a pretty standard political and religious opinion, not mainstream by any means but hardly jihadi territory, and my threads are shadowbaned. Im presenting a view you would still get from many German people that 14 is an appropriate age of consent (as i demonstrated before, this is the view of the German High Court). Yet you ''no platform'' any expression of this opinion. On what grounds ?
>>543229071>and my threads are shadowbaned.This isn't reddit, you stupid cunt
>>543229071learn reading comprehensionsee>>543226999Germany is going to end up hiking the age of consent to 18 as are all of those European nations as long as you refuse to argue for the lowering of the age of majority. 'If 15 isn't an adult, how come a 15 year old can consent'. The solution to the feminist question is to say 'here you go, the age of majority has now been lowered to 15 & we will push it lower if you keep pushing us'
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>>543229216Language/text based autosuppression.Also, i have made esoteric observations pertaining to the issue. I wouldn't be surprised if only one or two people found this interesting. Still it is for the benefit of a tiny niche group who want to look deeper into the occult metaphysics behind the politics/laws.>>543229325Germany will not end up hiking the age of consent. You dont understand how German/Central European legal systems work in relation to their respective states. The global anglofeminist modus op is to, as you correctly alluded to before, use a media shock and awe script via an emergent or manufactured scandal.This cannot work on Germany or other Central European systems. The systems are hardcoded against it. Its why the sections of the US/UK security states and anglofeminist UN adjacent NGOs absolutely despite Germany. They see it as an existential threat, not just for structural reasons but because ideologically it undermines their entire model (inc the cyberentrapment surveillance prison industrial complex caracel they have constructed).Another reason they cannot penetrate many parts of Europe esp central Europe is because Continental feminism is not Anglo-feminism. It diverges sharply from Anglo-feminism on the issue of adolescence. German feminists will actively defend a girls consent, they believe the teenage girl should have womans rights in many respects. They believe anglo-feminism is tainted with calvinist ideology (which they are somewhat correct about).
>>543230410>You dont understand how German/Central European legal systems work in relation to their respective statesBulgaria just hiked the Age of Consent from 14 to 16 this year, Spain hiked it from 13 to 16. South Korea & Japan hiked it from 13 to 16, if they call caved, Germany will eventually cave to.You're from Ireland where the Age of Consent is 17, on par with US States, so your country caved long ago.
>>543218552https://youtu.be/q1gQZ7ugoQY?si=qIZtfqnVQPEVFMGT
>>543230820Your not reading what i wrote. Also your prob getting info from chatgpt. Im telling you, the media shock and awe system they deploy (like you mentioned in your historical stuff on stead)..it cannot work on the German system. The Judiciary are mandated and trained not to be swayed by media. The law is very binary/logic based. The judiciary and also feminists are against it. Its not a right vs left issue, the culture and law protects the girls right of consent. Very different cultural attitude to adolescence. They are typically hostile to the anglofeminist NGO lobby.You need to understand, because most online spaces are engineered by the US, and its media prevails, it projects its cultural hegemony into areas where it does not yet exist as a tactic to ensure ideological compliance within its own system. Yes they are making inroads and forcing some countries to change laws, but dont be fooled allot of this is cosmetic The actual cultures, and how they enforce (or in this case refuse to enforce) those laws is what you should be looking at. Much of the time they will change the nominal law to appease the anglo, but meanwhile they write loopholes in or other laws to render the change inert. Then enforcement, they dont enforce these laws in many places. Of course your programmed to believe these countries are all lock step in line with the US/UK, its simply not the case in reality.They way they hide certain large cultural differences from anglo population is really a masterclass in propaganda/information control.
>>543231924If it can work in Bulgaria & Ireland & Japan, it can work in Germany. You need to talk about lowering the age of majority, not the age of consent if you actually want to neutralize the feminists getting hysterical over age 18.For the record, even in Germany, 14 year olds still do not have full consent capacity, only 18+ has full consent to have sex with whomever, even if it's a boss or work as a prostitute, etc.
>>543218552they literally castrated pedos.
>>543226151Your the Evola appreciator lol. Your interested in religious anthropology. Just back to what we discussed last time. Yes, pater is pan, dis pater....head of the dons mac dons, the dagda ect. The Tua De Danan (Dan)...also Don ect ect. They exist in human vessels and walk the earth, they look like humans but are not human. Like is said last time tho, every religion to date is anthropomorphic. These beings are not frens. They are cold predatory primal intelligences inhabiting a sub-dimension between this world and death. They harvest humans for sustenance through the social architecture which is almost entirely a spiritual entrapment con mechanism. The male may have been the better of the two, the female seems to be usurping him at this time. Altho, he may spring to revenge. You should watch the Chinese movie - The Curse of the Golden Flower. It explains exactly what is going on, and what will happen. As for the nature of these beings, i reiterate again, they will mow over the entire species in their activities. Their ''harvest'' is approaching.
>>543232599I explained before, so much of this has to do with language. The cultural attitudes are determined by the syntax. Ireland fell long ago because English was imposed over Gaelic. As for Japan, nothing actually changed in Japan culturally, because they cant penetrate the linguistic conceptual code yet. Japan is unique in that while its a developed nation, it remains primarily patriarchal. Feminism is not really advancing in Japan. >>543232722Nobody ever tolerated pedophilia anywhere in human history. What we are discussing is the jewish/anglofeminist inspired reclassification of adolescence to the status of literal childhood and the pathologization and criminalization of normal heterosexual drives and behaviors. In other words what where young woman for most of history have been labeled children. This syncs with a psyop to expand the definition of pedophilia and apply paraphilic status to historically normal male sexual behaviors.
>>543223428This is not true.While people realised that a girl could get pregnant when her period started they also realised that child and mother mortality still were high at such an early stage.Optimal age for pregnancy and birthing usually is from 16-24 which allows for the lowest risk to mother and child with the least amount of complications and birth defects.Before the strain is too much and after that age range complications start to rise again, with drastic jumps about every 5-7 year steps.
>>543219313>Actually, Hitler was an autistic painter that took meth, Hitler was a /pol/ack sperge himself.That just makes it more likely that he'd kill you desu.
>>543233517In Scotland, 16 year olds can get married without parental consent because of an old law, only place on planet earth where that is possible outside of Afghanistan. Scotland letting 16 year olds get married without parental consent is why England was pressured into letting the age of consent be 16 instead of 17. The bill to raise the English Age of Consent to 17 failed by a single vote. Unless you give under-18 people full legal adulthood majority, you will eventually lose to the people that want to raise the age of consent to the majority age of 18.
>>543233767Theres a huge amount of propaganda and distortion of medical stats (mathematical slights of hand) on the issue of childbirth risk ratios for early-mid teens. Its another thread in itself. >but the WHO>muh chatgptCome on.
>>543234182You keep posting about 14 being the legal age in Germany even though that's not true. It's 16 for individuals above 21. That incest uncle-neice story you keep posting is about a 16 year old having an affair with her uncle, the court couldn't prove that they had an affair at 14 or 15.
>>543226151>Ní raibh neart ag Cú Chulainn ach i gcoinne na ngeas a bhí air; bhí sé coiscthe air feoil mhadra a ithe, ach mar gheall ar gheis eile, ní fhéadfadh sé diúltú do lorg fáilte ó mhnaoi. Thapaigh na gailleacha an deis sin ar bhóthar Muirtheimhne, ag tairiscint feoil chon dó as coire draíochta. Shín sé a lámh chlé chun an bhia agus thit an spiorad as a leathbhaill láithreach; fágadh lag, gonta, gan chosaint na ndéithe é roimh an gcath deiridh inar sádh é, go dtí gur cheangail sé é féin den ghaile cloiche chun bás a fháil ina sheasamh.Cúchulainn son of Lugh, he was tricked by hag witches (Daughters of Clann Calaitin/The Morrígan) to consume food that was tabboo.Then his lost his divine protection and died in battle. Like i explained before, they are con artists. They not only trick people into such things but i believe manufacture taboos to extend their sacrificial nets over the populace.The issue we are discussing here is, i think, one of their darkest sorceries. In changing the lexicon and making the woman a child, they elevated both permissible behavior and misdemeanor alike to the status of capital offense. Because Dagda, and other Genus Loci are blind and only see textual codes he moves in the direction they set.
>>543234807This is myth/disinformation. How many times do i have to tell you, chatgpt (all mainstream ai chat llms) are coded to obscure and lie on this issue. Likewise internet search engines will conceal info, wiki will lie and so on and so on. Your living in a more sophisticated version of North Korea anon.The age of consent in Germany is 14 period. The court knew fully, because they admitted it that they had a sexual relationship when she was 14. The guy drove off with her to France, her parents went nuts and there was a search. That would be a life sentence in the anglosphere. Ignore all of this ''but its practically illegal in practice'' bs. It isnt. Thats ai guardrail and US/UK glowie propaganda. There are clauses in the law, but they are not as presented by the anglobongisphere. Things like ''exploitation'', and ''abuse of power'' are not ambiguous catchalls like they are in Anglo law. They refer to things like extreme mental disability. Even the position of authority clause would be waived in German courts.Again, if some 40yr old guy was dating a 14yr old in Germany and the parents called the police. The police would show up at the guys house, offer the girl a ride home, maybe have a cup of tea. Its treated as a civil dispute. Stop reading propaganda and so some real research
>>543234985>>543218552Women in Traditional Mythology & Religion have been portrayed as temptresses & harlots that would tempt righteous men into acts of immorality. Sirens would lie & claim to be grooming victims as they lured sailors to their deaths. Eve tempted Adam into eating from the Forbidden Fruit. Feminists inverted the natural paradigm & started calling women grooming victims & promoted the narrative that sexual morality would increase if women were granted suffrage because evil men would no longer be able to oppress women. Of course, the opposite ended up happening, because women are in fact the cause of sexual immorality & grooming is a feminist hoax. Per Charles Darwin's 'Descent of Men', females across numerous Animal Kingdom species are the ones responsible for sexual selection. Sexual Promiscuity is an extension of the Sexual Selection process, ergo, Women cause Sexual Immorality issues.In any event, you will not convince people that minors are not victims, which is why the only solution is to reclassify teenagers as adults by lowering the age of majority to puberty.
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>>543226151Why do they do it ? As i explained in previous posts, its transmutation of spiritual weight/debt. Again, the jewish scapegoat ritual at yon kipor. They figured out how to trick the demonic sub-strait of reality. Through a ritual they put their sins onto a goat to propitiate Samael. I think what they are doing with the decriminalization and normalization of trad serious crimes, and the moving of both normal behaviors and misdemeanors to the status of capital offenses is a similar process. They preside over a system of child sacrifice (in the form of abortion) which they have normalized....yet they have the spirits attacking people to the point of death for relative non issues.I suspect they are shifting the burden/sin debts (what the jews called the sitra achra needs to be propitiated for the wrong done through the spilling of innocent blood). Its a kind of spiritual laundering. The changes to language/concept attitudes then law effect the spiritual forces of the place. The spirits of retribution/vengeance follow targets, but as the ancient texts state - they are confined within geographic boundaries and to language. This is why accounts all through history of people under curses and demoniacal attacks report it stops once they cross a certain geo threshold. This all pertains to gangstalking.Thousands have been murdered or driven to suicide by these vigilante networks in the UK frequently for as much as sending a few dodgy texts to a decoy posing as a 15yr old while drunk. The networks then track them lifelong within the UK, and subject them to arson attacks, stabbings ect. For the same offense in mainland Europe, none of this occurs. Culture/language/law determines the spiritual climate. The virus for windows does not work on linux
>>543235853Hang on, there's a bit of nuance here. Im not saying these none of these guys did anything wrong, im saying the reclassification of woman has artificially inflated the gravity of the offense. For most of time, any guy making unsolicited or overtly lewd and licentious remarks to a young girl would have been chastised. They would have seen him a pest, told him to get lost. However he was seen as a guy chancing his arm, acting inappropriately, but towards a girl of marriageable age (key point). There was never any kind of severe paraphilic disorder attributed to his actions, he was never regarded ''a child predator''. Then also, if the girl reciprocated (and this is key) she would be chastised likewise...this is no longer the case. This system is still in effect in most of the world.The sorcery of the reclassification has attributed to such misdemeanors, the status of near capital offenses (in the regions the deception is most strongly located). Not only the people but the spirits of the region then act accordingly. This is why guys are routinely burnt out of their houses over a few lewd texts to a decoy a year under the aoc in the UK. The idea of the biological woman of childbearing age as a literal child is fully established. Just a short distance over the channel ocean, the attitude is very different. It remains more of a misdemeanor at best.
>>543232722>they literally castrated pedosHitler was involved with a 16 year old girl when he was 37. And from what it seems, they at the very least snogged. By postmodern social media standards he's a pedophile too. I'm honestly not sure what to make of that.
>>543236897Abortion/Infanticide were commonplace in the Ancient World. Pope Sixtus IV commissioned a series of frescoes for all the drowned infants of the Tiber River in the 1400s. Women that had children out of wedlock were liable to getting honor killed so they would save face by getting abortions. There was a greater effective stigma against out of wedlock abortion than against abortion in the old world, there still is many non-christian countries.The 2 Goats of Yom Kippur Story has a Sacrificial Lamb & a Scapegoat. Christ was the Sacrificial Lamb while Barabbas was the Scapegoat. Christ paid the price for the Sins of Jews, while Jews are released into the wild to live another day.
>>543237924There shouldn't be any charges at all, the majority age should be puberty as it was in ancient times, that would clear up any confusion. Whether a region has a more strict or lenient application of the present day law doesn't change the underlying veracity of the law, the law itself is illegitimate & needs to be changed back to puberty. You're not questioning the legitimacy of 18 adulthood age when you talk about the age of consent, but leave out the age of majority, just say that under-18 teens are not actual minors & that they should be adults.
Just on the demons of retribution/debt and territoriality. I was researching Cow Vigilante groups in India a while back, because there's allot of crossover. Hundreds (more likely thousands) of people have been killed and injured in specific regions of India - Haryana (38% of all online vigilante activity), Uttar Pradesh, and Rajasthan.over the last decade or so. In these regions, so great is their belief in the sacred status of the cow that anyone who as much as mistreats a cow can face social ostracization, while cattle dealers and such are routinely targeted for attacks. To kill a cow in these areas is an actual crime where people can get 10 years to life in prison. Its est that thousands have been imprisoned or fined for cow related offenses in these regions There are tens of thousands of active vigilantes across massive decentralized networks like Gau Raksha Dals. Thousands of active accounts on Instagram and YouTube posting high-speed chases and beatdowns, pulling millions of views.If someone harms or mistreats a cow in the core hotspot regions they can expect to be essentially gangstalked (understand gangtstalking reports correlate with historical accounts of demoniacal affliction - its the spirits of the region executing a warrant). And yet, they pass over a river or a stream to a nearby region such as Kerala, West Bengal, the phenomena will cease, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruRRcSrLnF0
>>543238259Same stuff, its all witchcraft. Its a fucked up thing, but they figured out (through pacts with demons) that they could transmute life energy, the life intended for the child when killed can be transferred to the witch or whoever she wishes to send it to. In witchcraft covens they have some woman whos only job is to get pregnant...I would say the majority of abortions are ritual child sacrifices. Kramer in Malleus Maleficarum 1486 explained witches primarily go into midwifery. From my research i would also say elder care and anything to do with abortions. The abortion clinics are all run by covens, definitely. >There was a greater effective stigma against out of wedlock abortion than against abortion in the old world, there still is many non-christian countries.Yes, this is what im saying to you, their system isnt established globally yet. >The 2 Goats of Yom Kippur Story has a Sacrificial Lamb & a Scapegoat.Again back to the metaphysics behind human/child sacrifice (which is now totally cool with everyone due to their word spells) - they know how to transfer energies. Nigerian pentacostals who forced information out of captured witchdocters learned allot. They said they can take ''the garment'' (spiritual debts) of one person and place it on another - transmigration of sin, akin to the goat for Azazel/Samael.So much of what happens in the world is this manner of witchcraft. Whats occurring in Palestine ? Their sacrificing who they have demarcated as Easu/Amalak....its a scapegoating ritual, to ''sweeten the judgements'' (offload their own debts). These are the more obvious forms tho, what we where discussing about the inversion of moral taboos is a much deeper level of this.
>>543235710If the Age of Majority were 14 there wouldn't even be a court case, because the 14 year old could just sign the contract to go anywhere. Courts enforcing/not enforcing the law is different from actually changing the premise the law is built on & you change the premise by granting majority rights to teenagers. For the record, enforcement of the law will increase, not decrease, the only solution is to change the law & wipe out the 18 majority age itself. You accept the premise of age 18 & then point out loopholes, but you wouldn't need to do that if you just destroyed age 18 as a concept.
>>543227868I fail to see how any of this relates to Hitler
>>543240062Hitler doesn't care about 18/21 adulthood age at all, regardless of how German law is structured, that's the point. Conservatives feared Hitler would go back to the Ancient Wignat Germanic Laws where Puberty defined the Age of Majority.
>>543236844Live in denial all you want anon. Had i not shown people that high court case nobody would have believed it. >>543238390Your still under this delusion that the law in Germany is not what it actually states.
>>543240899Because no one cares about legal technicalities, if the law is on the books, but it's not enforced in various isntances, people are just going to respond by calling for increased enforcement of the law. Why are you so adamantly in favor of 18 being the age of majority?This is like when Pedo Hunters complain about how Los Angeles doesn't enforce the California 18 Age of Consent Law aggressively unlike other parts of California.
>>543218552Basedwagner did nothing wrong
>>543241033Its not a technicality, its not a loophole. The girl can legally consent at the age of 14 period. The caveats are nothing, again they are not ambiguous catchalls like in anglo law. Words like exploitation refer to actual provable hard coercion. German language and legal processes are so logic based and empirical that it drives the anglofems insane, because their entire model relies on weaponizing ambiguity. Nobody is getting charged in a German court for ''i felt a bit uncomfortable'' or ''i regretted it the week later''.One of the main reasons anglofems hate Germany is because they rejected the entire concept of retroactive rape. The German legal system, their culture and even their feminists believe a 14yr old can consent period (as demonstrated by that high court case).
>>543241525>Nobody is getting charged in a German court for ''i felt a bit uncomfortable'' or ''i regretted it the week later''.i meant nobody is getting convicted for these things
>>543241525No it's not, the court just chose to not enforce the law in that specific case, but it's still normally 16+ for people over 21. You are cherrypicking a specific case where the law wasn't enforced.
>>543218552The Nazi / pedo overlap seems pretty common
>>543241866THEY ADMITTED THEY WHERE IN A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP TO THE JUDGES WHEN SHE WAS 14. They did NOT refuse to enforce the law. They ENFORCED THE LAW THAT SAYS SHES ALLOWED TO CONSENT AT 14 ffs !
>>543241866The parents where furious claiming the guy practically abducted her The high court ruled, she has the right of consent Very similar judgement to any Canonical catholic court for the last thousand years. They would elope or find a priest to witness them, the parents would go nuts. even if they hadnt found a priest and where brought before the court, they would say they exchanged vows and the church would rule them legally married Canon 1083 §1. Vir ante decimum sextum aetatis annum completum, mulier item ante decimum quartum pariter completum, matrimonium validum inire non possunt.The german court is upholding a canonical artifact that essentially has not changed
>>543220716>underage girls>no tits >no ass>dumb as fuck>skinny>retarded>autistic>annoyingpedos be like>you are retarded for not liking that
>>543242567You just don't understand how good it feels to cum inside a 7 year old girl. They make such delicious moans once the crying stops.
>>543242369Stop posting misinformation, the age of consent is 16 in Germany for individuals 21+. It even says it in the court case, she was allowed to continue the relationship at 16 because she got legally emancipated at 16.https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/728490/Schoolgirl-relationship-uncle-court-continue>In Germany the age of sexual consent is 14, like in most European countries, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination.>She was only released when she managed to arrange her own legal counsel, who got her freed and filed a legal challenge for the right to a relationship of her own choice.
>>543243046Muhammad had Aisha play with her dolls to distract her while he went in.
>The red-haired teen Josephine Petritz from Schildow, a town in the German state of Brandenburg, has been in the relationship with her uncle Gerrit Haager for more than two years.The now 16-year-old Josephine ran away with the 48-year-old last year after the police started a search for the couplehttps://www.express.co.uk/news/world/728490/Schoolgirl-relationship-uncle-court-continue>In Germany the age of sexual consent is 14, like in most European countries, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination.>She was only released when she managed to arrange her own legal counsel, who got her freed and filed a legal challenge for the right to a relationship of her own choice.
>>543218552>Marrying a 17 year old to a 40 year old? >That's gross and weird!>Having that same woman at 21 marry a 38 year old?>Hecking cute and valid!I personally find them both a little weird but thats just me
>>543243326>The Law: StGB § 182 (German Criminal Code) explicitly defines 14 as the baseline age of consent. Sex with a 14-year-old is 100% legal unless exploitation (Ausnutzung) of a lack of maturity is proven. It does NOT default to 16.>The Precedent: Look up OLG Brandenburg Case 9 UF 132/15 (Josephine Petritz, 14, and her 47-year-old uncle). As detailed by Der Tagesspiegel and the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), the High Regional Court did not wait for her to turn 16 or grant "emancipation" to make it legal. They reviewed the relationship specifically from age 14 onward, verified her mature self-determination, and ruled that no exploitation occurred.>The Verdict: Reporting from BILD Zeitung confirms that the court explicitly ruled the parents could not legally block the relationship because the girl's stable, early-matured will was protected. As the legal documentation establishes, the court ruled that while the relationship may be socially ostracized ("gesellschaftlich geächtet"), it is NOT forbidden ("nicht verboten").https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4lJUzrgSJA&list=RDU4lJUzrgSJA&start_radio=1
>>543243831A rare circumstance where the court let her get emancipated so that she could continue the relationship at 16. That's not formally 'legal', that's a loophole/legal technicality situation.
>>543244128>"Emancipation" is literally not a thing under German Family Law: You are coping with American legal concepts. Germany does not have a general legal process of "minor emancipation" (Emanzipation). The court did not grant her some magical, rare adult status. She was legally a minor under during the entire trial.>The Case was Formally Grounded in § 1666 BGB: The High Regional Court (OLG Brandenburg Case 9 UF 132/15) explicitly ruled on standard custody laws. The judges legally declared that overriding a mature teenager’s deeply established, stable will and forcing a separation was the actual threat >The Relationship Was Judged from Age 14 Onward: The judiciary did not ignore the timeline. The court explicitly verified that because she had stable, self-determined maturity starting at 14, the relationship did not constitute exploitation under StGB § 182 (German Criminal Code). The baseline age of consent is 14 period.
>>543244128Y cope this hard mosche?
>>543244128Its 100% legal glowie. Europe just doesnt see eye to eye with you on this issue, like i explained. VERY different culture (so different in fact...and not just on this topic, it needs to be concealed by US/UK national security agencies)Now lets all stand for the anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAU35Q9RyJI&list=RDuAU35Q9RyJI&start_radio=1
>>543242567Wait a minute. I am retarded.
>>543244495Someone who said he gets aroused cumming in a 7 year old calling somone jewish is crazy
>>543244684No it's not 100% legal, if it were 100% there wouldn't have been a court case, you're talking about a legal technicality. If you want to make it 100% legal you need to lower the age of majority.
>>543244996The court case wasn't about sex laws, it was a custody battle. The criminal police and prosecutors already closed any criminal investigations without charges because StGB § 182 makes sex at 14 completely legal. The only reason there was a court case is because her parents tried to use their custody rights (BGB § 1626) to physically lock her up and stop her from seeing him. Are you starting to get the picture ?
>>543244416Saying that you can agree to certain contracts is equivalent to emancipation, many US States & the the UK itself lack formal emancipation laws, but the basic concept & precedent still exist.
>>543245148>>In Germany the age of sexual consent is 14, like in most European countries, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination.The girl had to argue she had the capacity to make that decision & she had to get lawyers to make that argument, the average girl is not going to do that, so the police will jail you if they catch you in most normal circumstances.You think the average girl is going to go through lawyers & court hearings to make this argument?
>>543223194We die at 25.
>>543245156>You are fundamentally confusing "Limited Legal Capacity" with Emancipation: Under civil law jurisdictions like Germany, a minor having specific rights is called Limited Legal Capacity (beschränkte Geschäftsfähigkeit under BGB § 106). This is a permanent, codified statutory framework for all teenagers, not a rare common-law precedent or "loophole" carved out for individuals.>Sexual autonomy at 14 is a baseline statutory right, not a contract: A 14yr old in Germany isn't "agreeing to a contract" when they consent to a relationship. They are exercising a personal right explicitly granted to every single citizen on their 14th birthday by the federal legislature under StGB § 182. The state doesn't need to "emancipate" them to give them this right; they already have it by default.>The Court did not grant her new rights; it stopped the parents from violating her existing ones: In the OLG Brandenburg Case, the court didn't look for a loophole to elevate her status. The judges strictly applied BGB § 1666, which dictates that parental custody rights are legally restricted if exercising them harms her well-being. Forcing a mature teenager out of a stable relationship against her will was ruled to be the actual harm.
>>543245245>You have the legal burden of proof inverted: Under StGB § 182, sex at 14 is 100% legal by default, meaning the state and police have absolutely zero legal authority to arrest or jail anyone unless the prosecutor can first prove exploitation occurred. The average girl doesn't need to hire lawyers or argue her capacity to anyone because the presumption of legality is entirely on her side from day one; Josephine only had to hire a lawyer because her own psycho parents actively weaponized family custody laws to lock her in a psychiatric ward, completely independent of the criminal code.
>ITT: two guys going back and forth on why violating 13 year olds is okay and even 16 is too old because feminismWe live in a society
>>543245245Look, i am not shitting you, i already explained this to you numerous times. Men older than 20/30 can and do date girls 14-16 with no legal issues in Germany, you just don't hear about it because its not a newsworthy issue. Its stigmatized obviously, but there's no criminality in it. If you where dating a girl of this age and the cops where called they would go to your house look around, ask if the girl is ok or needs a lift home and thats it. If the parents have an issue its a civil dispute, the guy isnt being charged with anything (unless its like he drugged the girl or was pimping her out) do you understand this ?
>>543245754Il defend the premise that a man, provided hes respectful and wants a proper relationship/marriage would often be better off with a virgin girl of this age than some 15+bodycount roastie in her 20s/30s yes. It would be a morally superior option Everyone was of this view once a upon a time btw
>>543245778Not the way the law is structured, the girl in the story had to get lawyers involved & the issue had to go to court, the police would've been able to prosecute the guy had she not gone to court.
>>543245365>>543245452Again, if there was no issue, why was there a court case at all? Because you're talking about an example of someone exploiting a shady grey area in the law & winning on a technicality because the underage individual testified on the suspect's behalf.There wouldn't have even been a court case to begin with if it were fully legal without issue, so stop saying it's fully legal at 14 when it's not.Had it been fully legal, the police wouldn't have had any basis for a criminal investigation.
>>543245958Wrong again. The state prosecutor dropped the criminal case immediately without a trial. The police never had the power to prosecute the guy because sex at 14 is 100% legal by default under StGB § 182. The family court case and the lawyers had absolutely nothing to do with stopping a criminal prosecution; they were strictly needed for a civil custody dispute under BGB § 1666 to stop her parents from forcing her into a psych ward.Again, please, the rest of the world is not the USA, you need to understand this. Stop projecting your culture onto places where it doesn't exist. Look, you can hardly believe this about Germany, well France in many ways would be even more hard for you to believe, but im not going there in this thread. Then other parts of the world, you are aware huge nations in Africa like a third of the girls are married before 15 ?
>>543245917Average marriage age was never under 17, not even during the Black DeathNow, you can argue this is just an average number, but that would still mean that virtually no one got married under 16 (16 and 18 = 17). This notion that fucking kids was ever common beyond prehistory is insane. Just because you didn't straight up get sent to jail like today doesn't mean that it was usual. The AOC in England was raised precisely due to public outrage over child prostitution.
>>543246119Incorrect, it's not legal by default. She had to go to court & legally challenge the indictment in order to get approval. It is ILLEGAL BY DEFAULT, though it can be made Legal through Court Approval.https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/728490/Schoolgirl-relationship-uncle-court-continue>In Germany the age of sexual consent is 14, like in most European countries, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination.>She was only released when she managed to arrange her own legal counsel, who got her freed and filed a legal challenge for the right to a relationship of her own choice.
>>543246166>The AOC in England was raised precisely due to public outrage over child prostitution.The AOC in England was hiked by a literal Deep State Spook who wrote a manual on how to rule a government via propaganda via hiking the AOC, that AOC Hike then got applied globally. The same guy built the propaganda model that set off the Spanish American War. Spain was one of the last holdouts, keeping the consent age at 13 until it was recently hiked to 16.WT Stead in the 1880s came up with the Deep State Operating System, which he called 'Government by Journalism' & he talked about how generating hysterical propaganda could be used to rule a government.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_by_Journalismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._T._SteadStead used hysteria to hike the age of c0nsent, which conservative anti-feminists pointed out would be used for blackmail purposes (mossad/jeffrey) due to teenagers & people in their early 20s looking alike.>That has been the chief argument advanced against raising the age of c0nsent. You get young girl prostitutes parading the streets; they get some man to accompany them; and he is thereupon threatened that, unless he pays over so much money as blackmail, he will be prosecuted for having accompanied the girl below the age of c0nsent. I do not think there is great fear of thathttps://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1917/feb/19/criminal-law-amendment-bill?>It is often suggested that that campaign by William Randolph Hearst's paper that led to the US invasion of Cuba in 1898
>>543246166>A year before the Spanish–American War W. T. Stead travelled to New York to meet William Randolph Hearst, to teach him government by journalism.[37][38]
>>543246166The Western European Marriage Pattern came into existence because of Feudal Marriage Taxes that applied to Commoners. Royals continued to get married at teens. People in Ireland & Scotland that maintained tribal clan systems & resisted feudalism in the middle ages also got married as teens. That's why it has always been legal for 16 year olds in Scotland to get married without parental consent. In Roman Times, pre western european marriage pattern/pre-feudalism, people commonly married as teens.
>>543218552Age of Consent in the German speaking world has been 14 for centuries, if not millenia although there is no written document proving any discussions of Age of Consent older than 1400s.It didn't even enter Hitler's mind, as it always has been this way, still is this way today and always will be.Cope and seethe American hags.
>>543246237You are functionally illiterate regarding the article you linked: Josephine was never indicted, arrested, or prosecuted by the state. She was "freed" from a psychiatric clinic where her own parents locked her up under civil custody laws. The German prosecutor closed the criminal investigation immediately without charges because StGB § 182 makes sex at 14 legal by default. The court challenge was a civil family dispute (OLG Brandenburg Case 9 UF 132/15) to strip her parents' right to dictate her residence.>>543246166Florentine Catasto of 1427 refutes WEMP, In urban Florence, roughly 40% of all teenage girls were already married by age 15.
>>543246767Because she had to go to court & testify that she had the maturity, by default, if she had refused to go to court or if the court had not believed her, the guy would've gone to jail. By default, it is not legal. If it were legal by default, there would've been no basis for a police investigation & the charges would've been dropped & it would've never become a news story to begin with.
>>543246671How is Aysha doing Mohammad?
>>543246671Under Germanic Law, the full age of majority was originally set at 10, before it was hiked to 12-15, then the Normans hiked it to 21 using astrology (7+7+7) based on the climacteric year idea, 21 went on to become the european standard age of majority."The silence of the Saxon sources in this respect gives, at the outset, a strong presumption that already from the first the father's power in Saxon England was assimilated to guardianship, and ended like it when the son attained majority; and evidence is not lacking to make this presumption a certainty. The period of majority in Anglo-Saxon law was first fixed at the completion of the tenth year; but, later, the period of dependence was lengthened to twelve years. Even this came in time to be regarded as too early an age to assume the responsibilities of manhood, and the later law shows a tendency to prolong the period to the completion of the fifteenth year, though there is no sufficient evidence that this ever became law in the Saxon age. Throughout Norman times, however, and still in the time of Glanville, this was the age of majority for all except those holding knight's fees. For these the Normans had introduced the period of twenty-one years.https://www.google.com/books/edition/Essays_in_Anglo_Saxon_Law/KDsLAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22anglo+saxon+law%22+%22kent%22+%22majority%22&pg=PA161&printsec=frontcover
>>543246822The criminal charges WERE dropped by default: You are completely hallucinating the timeline. The state prosecutors closed the criminal investigation under StGB § 182 and dropped all criminal charges against the uncle before the case ever went to the regional appeal court. They did this because the police found zero evidence of exploitation, meaning the sexual relationship was 100% legal by default.The court case was a Civil Custody Dispute, not a Criminal Prosecution: The only reason this went to court and became a news story is because her psycho parents weaponized civil family law (BGB § 1666) to physically lock her up in a psychiatric clinic against her will. Josephine and her lawyer had to sue her parents to get her out of the hospital and strip them of their custody rights.If she lost the court case, the uncle wouldn't go to jail she would have stayed in the psych ward: Had the court ruled against her, the judges would have simply upheld the parents' right to dictate her residence. The uncle could not have been jailed because no criminal law was broken.
>>543242567>dumb as fuck>retarded>autistic>annoyinghold up half of that describes adult women
>>543246933oh it's this schizo
>>543247011No, the girl's court testimony resulted in the charges being dropped, because the testimony cleared the 'no exploitation' criteria.
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>>543247031>post historical facts>get called a schizoHistory is 'Schizophrenic', live with it.
>>543247105You are fundamentally hallucinating how German criminal investigations work: A person does not testify in a civil family court to clear criminal charges. Under the German Code of Criminal Procedure (StPO), the State Prosecutor's Office (Staatsanwaltschaft) is legally required to drop an investigation the exact moment they lack a "sufficient suspicion of a crime" (hinreichender Tatverdacht under StPO § 170). The prosecutor dropped the statutory rape investigation during the initial police phase because the police found zero evidence of exploitation.The Family Court had zero jurisdiction over criminal charges: When Josephine went to the High Regional Court (OLG Brandenburg Case 9 UF 132/15), she wasn't defending her uncle from jail; she was suing her parents under BGB § 1666 to strip their right of custody (Sorgerecht). Her testimony about her "stable and goal-oriented will" was given to prove to a family judge that her parents locking her in a psych ward was a violation of her constitutional rights, not to clear an uncle who was already completely in the clear criminally.The Presumption of Legality: In Germany, an act is either a crime by default or legal by default. Because StGB § 182 defines 14 as the baseline age of consent, sex is 100% legal by default. The state bears the entire burden of proving exploitation; the citizen never has to go to court to "prove" consent.
>>543247153Ironic since prostitution is not legal in your country. Female cops go undercover to catch retards like you there
>>543218552>the 40-year-old Edward and her 17-year-old daughter, Frederica of Hanover, who was then at boarding school in England. Her parents refused, citing the age gap, and Frederica later married Paul of Greece.So she married a dude who was only 16 years older than her, rather than 23. Um okay
>>543218552Hitler was a dumbass. He called quantum mechanics Jewish science which set back nuclear research. He opposed the Intermediate Cartridge. His procurement decisions and many different hierarchies impeded the Reichs war effort. He made stupid military orders that made no sense.He sabotaged the Me-262 by making it a bomber. He was obsessed with Wunderwaffe and heavy tanks which were useless. He ordered the bombing of civilians in London instead of radar installations and air fields. He diverted tank forces from Moscow. He tried to compete with the Royal Navy before the war. He halted the advance on Dunkirk which allowed around 330k Allied troops to escape. Dumping tons of resources and time into V rockets.If the German military and industry wasn’t so fractured politically and priority wise, they could’ve done a lot more. At the end of WW2, the German speaking world significantly shrunk and was put under the control of Western and Communist forces. Instead of saving the German people, he destroyed them.
>>543243439You're an American, you are coded to marry busted whores and then see something Christian in that. Country full of cucksEither way, no, marriage is always bad. Don't do it.
>>543246461>That's why it has always been legal for 16 year olds in Scotland to get married without parental consent.Anon, nobody in pre-reformation Europe, or post reformation Catholic Europe ever needed parental consent to get married You saw the movie bravehart right ? It was that simple. The church didnt even marry people per say, they married on their own vows then found a monk or a priest to witness for them. Parental consent only came back with Luther/Calvin
>>543248014>take the Mgtow pillBasado
>>543248103You can still fuck or be in a relationship with any woman, just dont sign anything and dont live in common law marriage regions. Marriage makes men into weak fags, literally
>>543247610Defeating France who’s government was super unpopular (some things never change), hampered democratically from rearming, and who saw a 520km mechanized column going through the Ardenne via aerial reconnaissance isn’t the feat people think it was. French doctrine regarding waiting orders from French high command doomed them. Hitler’s Third Reich beat a France lead by even dumber people than Hitler and a relatively poorly equipped and industrialized Poland, who could still break German cyphers. Germany won those invasions despite Hitler, not because of him.
Hitler was a Jewish agent much like most of the NAZI leadership, WW2 was a human sacrifice of Easu/Amalak who was made a scapegoat to propitiate Samael It also was used to force European jewery (who where originally mostly anti zionist and didnt want to leave Europe) into Palestine Most jews believed they weren't supposed to go back until the messiah arrived, and viewed Zionism as heretical
>>543246671The Russians found this out to their glee in 1945.
>>543218552Hitler was a pedo
>>543218552#ourguy
>>543249525Yup I realized that jewish old school feminists aren't the true enemy after reading an article from 1913 that criticized moralTARDism and delaying marriage as something deeply destructive to the human soul.The true evil system of sexually repressive modern feminism is probably constructed by right wing zionist jews rather than progressive old skool feminist jews. My oneitis used to be super liberated and affectionate until she was brainwashed into this and started to viciously despise me by the time we would have been reasonably old enough to actually start a relationship. She put her head on me, got touchy and ran away from the group to be alone with me. Also covered her face when mentioned she couldnt be left alone with me. Now she despises me so much she instantly calls police and there's absolutely no closure to be had either, just a weird situation.
>>543250846Fucking underage women isn’t just illegal. It’s stupid. They live with their parents. They are beholden to them. They can drive, drink, get a job. They’re children. Besides just being wrong, it just doesn’t even make sense in modern day society
>>543251168Mark of the beast is already being test run on kids to make sure they don't run away. It's part of ZOG to make sure young people have no rights at all in this society, can't even visit a hotel alone...I want this society to burn to the fucking ground. Death to ZOGbots.
