What is the end goal of freemasonry?
>>543223604Temple of Solo man
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>>543223604>>543223604>>543223604>What is the end goal of freemasonry?being drown in jewish cum
>>543223604To make jews kings of the world and the rest subservient noahide slaves.
>>543223604>turn lead into goldApply alchemy to society as a whole
>>543223604Diplomatic relations with our extraterrestrial overlords. You can get the truth from them by doing this simple trick:>Hold up both hands shaped like a Vulcan salute >Say "I'm showing three threes" >The third is shown with your minds eyeEnjoy.
>>543223604You're living it you commie fuck. And what a nightmare it is.
>>543223604Freemasonry is just talmudism for the goyim
>>543223604 Freemasons were the good guys of history. They fought for our freedom. From George Washington to Frederic Bastiat, Freemasons were always fighters for liberty and freedom
>>543223604monkeypox
>>543224160You know who else fought for liberty?
>>543223604>secret gay sex club
>>543224160freedom to do what?
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>>543223604to nullify v2k technology with an earth energy cathedral grid too block out the voices. God speaks through the silence after all, where Motzart thought music was
>>543224300Also this it's just esoteric liberalism
>>543224418Why does no one ever fight for obedience? It’s always people fighting for disobedience and the right to mutilate their genitalia.
to blackmail every goy stupid enough to join it
The goal is to be free. And become super good as Masonry.
>>543223604Normalising the worship of Lucifer, and preparing the coming of the antichrist. For themselves, they think they can ascend to godhood.
>>543223604Freemasonry openly admits to being a mystery school, a system that dates back to ancient egypt that anyone can adapt in the vague sense.In a mystery school you play an initiatory character that has a hidden metaphor in their story.>Egypt: you are Osiris the God of Egypt being betrayed killed by Set (the god baal of the caananite desert).>Greece: Zeus (baal of the caananite desert) betrays you, turning you to the wife of hades (The god of the underworld, osiris)>Nords: You are baldr, betrayed by Loki and have to bring yourself back to life by the time of the world to come>Gnostics: You play the role of sophia who falls from heaven in to the material world, and restored by jesusyou notice jesus is already this story>jesus is raised in egypt>betrayed by Judas representing the Jewish pharisees who call for Jesus death>ressurects for a brief moment like Osiris before ascending to the higher plane>judeah is literally just the caananite desert again.even in judaism:>Joseph marries the line of egyptian priests>judah impregnates his son's caananite wife>judah betrays joseph, sending him into exile where he is said to actually look egyptian when they are reunited.The goal of this system in ancient egypt and gnosticism is known specifically to forgive the sins of the person, as well as the sins of the people around them. The sin is replaced by spiritual influx which is knowledge and blessing. This stops you from reincarnating to balance out your sins and instead you ascend to be a god with osiris.This is what judaism calls the fruit of forbidden knowledge, a ritual that makes you like gods and cuts you off from the 'tree of immortality', as you are no longer reincarnating endlessly on earth.this is why they reject egypt, babylon, rome, anywhere that already has this death and ressurection story, and its the reason they deny jesus as its the same story again.The goal, like with jesus, was to forgive sins and take you to heaven.
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>>543223604Freemasony was co-opted by the english lodges in 1717, which originated in french/scottish/irish stuart/jacobite aligned circles, the fight is still going on, but it isn't really through freemasonry anymore, its a vehicle nobody really drives anymore like they did in the early days. its use splintered in the 90s after hundreds of years of infighting since 1688. Most freemasons don't even know this. its called "Whig history (or Whig historiography)" The traditional narrative of Freemasonry's origins is one of the most prominent, real-world examples of a history deliberately engineered to serve a Whig agenda.The Stuarts through the ancients lodges, which have been contested in an underground conflict between the whigs/hanovers/moderns.The stuarts intermarried through out nearly every major family and nation in europe, but gained dutch, english and swiss enemies due to defaulting on their debts, half of the stuart family has been compromised by being indebted and had to save face and align their branch with the debters.They have been fighting against the hanovers and certain dutch/genevian lenders that displaced them in 1688, the hanovers which displaced them and set up central banks in europe and england since 1694 to fight against the jacobites and stuarts.Freemasonry is just a vehicle for intelligence sharing and gatherings, with some fundamental truths diluted down at this point.Its purpose has always been compromised by its enemies,
>>543223604The stuarts/jacobites and the hanovers/whigs have been using revolutions against one another for the last 330 years through out europe and their colonies.There have been no clean revolutions.They have both funneled resources and men into the dame streams, hedging so that no matter who comes out on top, neither side ends up losing.They both put royalists or loyalists on the legitamist side, they both put revolutionaries on the reformist side.They've both learned that you dont put all your eggs in one basket, in such a titanic struggle, you dont risk everything in one nation or one side.
>>543224160This is only half the picture.The traditional stuart/scottish/french/spanish/irish affilated templar linage side, sure, but the english side co-opted and institutionalized it and hollowed it out for advancing anti-jacobite/anti-stuart central banking agendas.
>>543223604combining the female and male in the physical.
>>543223604Gay sex
>>543224418>>543224522Freedom from a centralized state-church apparatus where priests have effectively unlimited power in deciding what you think and how you live like. They lobotomize you from birth and force-feed you their belief system so you can never truly reason independently, and they will persecute you like no other, as they did with native Greco-Romans and other European cultures.Is this what you want? An old Semitic priest in robes deciding what you're allowed to know and think?
>>543223604Bring about the Antichrist, who will subsequently get rid of all them and demand he be the only one who's worshipped, Freemasons are self deceived like Satan and the fallen angels are, they could avoid eternal torment if they just read the Bible forwards.
>>543225858>>543226163>>543226529Aaaand there's the regular masonic shill running cover, poisoning wells, and limiting hangoutsIt really is clockwork
>>543227332Fucking sock puppet new fags and old fags that repeat the same drivel like retards.Let me guess, you think the jews rule the world because some on else told you so.
>>543227127I’m ok with that. You’ve watched too many kike propaganda movies like Chocolat or Handmaids Tale if you think that’s oppression. That’s like thinking your mum telling you to not put your dick in a meat grinder is le tyranny. Grow up, seek God.
>>543227432>It's not the jews, goyim, it's just these goyische factions fighting each other
>>543223926Top is Lucifer, not Jehova.
>>543227501>I’m ok with that.I know you are. Because you are a natural born cuckold slave. Reasoning and thinking of your own volition is pretty much removed in Christian societies, where any deviation is heavily punished and suppressed.> Grow up, seek God.This has nothing to do with God. It's about avoiding subjugation to man-made tyranny masquerading as the truth.
>>543227342You literally are a fucking dumb cunt.You only focus on jews and cherry pick everything.Retard, i keep trying to wake people up and you want them to be like sheep following the herd of jew this and jew that.Who is the one who believes in illuminati tier bullshit again???You accuse me of illuminati tier shit, yet you literally parrot jew jew jew everyday like you know anything about human affairs.You only study jews because you dont know how to actually focus properly, so you sperg out on one faction.Ignoring the english/dutch/genevan faction.Oh, and everytime, you ignore my comments and skip to jews, like a cherry picking nigger, lol.
they dont really know some have an idea but they all work towards it whatever that may be and thats on purpose just let the believe fill in the gaps of what they think it should be as long as you believe in higher powers
>>543227432You think freemasonry was "co-opted" you fucking retard, and your flag the templars they founded freemasonry after finding gnostic texts under solomons temple, so you're retarded or you're a mason yourself, i know it's not the jews, it's mostly jews and whites but that doesn't matter it's their religion the mystery cult that goes back to atlantis, all these elites are working towards the exact same goal, all their civil wars internal or external work toward that purpose
>>543223604>What is the end goal of freemasonry?Build the Third Temple for the Anti-Christ/Jewish Mosiach, enforce the Noahide Laws as Sanhedrin/Judges and sentence Christians to death for practicing idolatry. Building the Third Temple also implies bringing back animal sacrifices in the tabernacle and since Jews do not differentiate between goyim and cattle/beasts, they are subjected to human sacrifices inside The Third Temple.
>>543223604Whatever israel tells them to do
>>543223604it's an enslavement racket
>>543227686How do we forget our place in the natural order when we receive this “liberty”. All the examples and warning throughout history and literature and mf-er’s still think like the classic fool Icarus, whose flight ended tragically when flying too close to the sun. Go ahead, be free, I’m sure this time it will be different.
>>543227829You've just proved by not reading my comments how stupid you are.Its jews who have been a contested faction in between both sides.You've just proven you know nothing of the jacobites and stuarts and the co-opted nature of 1717 freemasonry, newfag, lol, go and do your homework.
>>543227127>priests have effectively unlimited power in deciding what you think and how you live like. They lobotomize you from birth and force-feed you their belief system so you can never truly reason independently, and they will persecute you like no otherWell, since that always ends up happening in civilization, regardless of the system, the question is therefore which priesthood is the least worst.The one which believes that you are made in the image of god, or the ones which believes you are just a worthless collection of atoms.
>>543223604To turn people from christ.
>>543223604To serve Satan by spreading his deception by any means.
>>543227857And the masses will accept it, we already have mass human sacrifice in the womb>>543227964You're a fag who knows nothing, why exactly are you focusing on one faction, all these factions, they're all part of the same overarching secret society
>>543223604to find the g-spot
>>543227932>How do we forget our place in the natural order when we receive this “liberty”So our "natural order" is to have a small sect of semitic priests and writers decide our entire lives, way of thinking, and what we're allowed to think in the first place? Nobody prevents you from believing in Christianity in a post-Enlightenment society, you're free to worship as you wish. But under Christian societies, men are not really free to worship or reason on their own. I reject your spiritually semitic world view of priestly domination entirely.>>543227982>Well, since that always ends up happening in civilization, regardless of the system, the question is therefore which priesthood is the least worst.Probably the system that has discovered and refined our understanding of the natural world, produced satellites, computers, rockets, abundant food, freedom to reason as you wish, freedom to worship whatever you want.
>>543227688>Ignoring the english/dutch/genevan faction.I'm ignoring them intentionally dumbass, because they haven't been relevant for centuries>>543227964Jews set up their own higher degree Rite, the Egyptian one, which turned out to be the actual source of political subversion and revolutionary activityUnlike your jacobite and hanoverian branches', these activities can actually be traced and named, so it makes sense to run cover for it I guess, by non-stop well poisoning. It does seem rather petty, and pathetic
>>543228168Dipshit.Read my comments.You think they are "one faction" lime the retard.Hegelian dialectic is like mass immigration or interracial porn.I can support both in an accelerated timeline if i want my brethren to wake up.Just like i can support the revolution and communists if i need a nazi to wake people up.But here's the thing.Just because multiple factions back , the nazis or communists doesn't mean that's who they are ideologically.That's what I meant in my earlier comment when I said , don't put all your eggs in one basket.You're compressing and simplifying things when it's never been justified.There has never been one side.
>>543223604serving the jews to bring antichist
>>543223604Washington rebuffed the masons.
>>543228315You are a stupid cunt.Multiple times I've posted this and you skip passed it and focus on the CONTESTED jewish faction.Hjalmar Schacht.Montagu Norman.Windsor files.BIS.Where are you fucking jews you dumb cunt?
>>543223604Third temple
>>543225059All their Egyptian stuff they shoehorned in after Napoleon set up shop. It was the style at the time.
>>543227501Hm no I don’t think so. I think you should be deported with the jews and Muslims. My tolerance of Christian retardation taking Jewish revenge porn and the cobbled together cope of Roman bureaucrats stops right there. Pack your shit.
>>543228264Even the new priests claim their inventions are killing the planet and are about to bring on the apocalypse for mankind.
>>543228264There is freedom in bondage and bondage in freedom. A kid does what it wants and is free until objective reality leaves its mark on them in the form of a bruise or scrape or worse death. It takes discipline and a superior intellect to know one is free to do as they please but that in doing so, there are equally measurable consequences which cannot be avoided. Christianity is admirable in this respect because it hones in human desire and makes it a vice, which it certainly is when unregulated. Problem is, most people lack this regulation mechanism.
>>543228732>excess is bad for you>christianity did thisHm I know Roddenberry said it was the jews that take credit for things they like but I suppose their Christian bastard children do the same.
>>543228461Schacht was a Warburg protege you nitwitThe BIS was originally instituted for WW1 reparations, it wasn't all that influential or important until after WW2, and then only in the context of Bretton-Woods. It's mostly another red herring, which figures, from a memefaggot running cover for jews
>>543223604CONTROLLING GOYIM WITHGOUT LETTING THEM BECOME JEWSsry caps
>>543228849I wouldn’t expect a hindu raperat to understand the concept of fasting or abstaining from contributing to the suffering of the many by forgoing their own selfish desires.
>>543223604how did it start?
>>543228732>There is freedom in bondage and bondage in freedom. A kid does what it wants and is free until objective reality leaves its mark on them in the form of a bruise or scrape or worse death. It takes discipline and a superior intellect to know one is free to do as they please but that in doing so, there are equally measurable consequences which cannot be avoided.No, there is no freedom involved in someone suppressing other beliefs, ways of reasoning, cultures, etc and have them bow exclusively to yours. What you are doing here is equating grown adults with functional reasoning capabilities to children, because you cannot comprehend the possibility of having agency or choice. This is exactly your world view model - the daddy priest needs to tell you, the child, what to think and how to think.>Christianity is admirable in this respect because it hones in human desire and makes it a vice, which it certainly is when unregulated. Problem is, most people lack this regulation mechanism.Why should scripture written by ancient semitic priests and semitic priests in church authority positions have the power to universally decide what needs to be regulated and how? This is nonsense.
>>543228557Wrong'The Egyptian stuff' was initially used by jews (Cagliostro) to help instigate the French Revolution (see diamond necklace affair)Napoleon went to Egypt in the first place under the influence of Egyptian Rite freemasons in his entourage, such as general Kleber, who also initiated him into his lodge there
>>543229125>four fucking ramps
>>543223604> What is the end goal of freemasonry?The third temple must be constructed spiritually before it can be rebuilt physically People think the second temple was the building The real one was the spiritual temple
>>543223926that bottom part makes no sense lolcapitalism is both of those groups' entire gamecommunism breaks their shitwhy else do you think all buddhist/hindu temples and christian monestaries operate as communes?oh, and functionally the inside of the Synagogue is one too, its only goyland that has to work with Babylon Shit Tickets
>>543229336if you think the system currently in place in western countries is capitalism, you are a fucking retard
>>543228857thats exactly the fucking problem with your response. I gave you a whole network and you grabbed one guy, said “Warburg protege,” and acted like that erased everything else.Schacht having a Warburg connection does not magically make Montagu Norman, the Bank of England, Morgan interests and Chase, the Windsor material, Basel/BIS, the Dutch-Genevan credit networks, Hanoverian connections, and the older Stuart/Jacobite struggle disappear. Thats not answering the argument, thats selecting the ONE Jewish connection inside the network and pretending the rest of the network therefore becomes Jewish.Same with BIS. “It was created for reparations” isnt a refutation at all. The whole reason I brought Basel up is because by the interwar period you have German, British, American and continental central bank/financial interests interacting through the same machinery. You cant just say “red herring” because acknowledging it forces you to look beyond one ethnicity.And you completely skipped the Norman side. You skipped the Windsor material. You skipped the Anglo-German and continental connections. You skipped the Genevan/Dutch lender structure. Then you announce the only thing that matters is Warburg.thats not investigation. Thats exactly the tunnel vision ive been accusing you of.If every time I hand you five non-Jewish nodes + one incidental Jewish node, you point at the Jewish one and say “SEE, JEWS,” youre not mapping the system, lol. Youre filtering the system until only the answer you wanted is left.And then you call everything else a “red herring” because you dont know how to integrate it. Thats the whole fucking issue.
>>543223604Getting holololed
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>>543229239those were added later, the guys who built it were on average 19'4" tall.
>>543229310people have to want to sacrifice themselves "willfully" to "gods" again for the temple to be builtyou cant build it unless the majority of us would submit, and the numbers just aint workin out right now are they?ftfy
>>543229466>people have to want to sacrifice themselves "willfully" to "gods" again for the temple to be builtwhat do you mean by this
>>543229403youre in england, you have good reason to say that, you still live under a fucking monarchy lolparliament or not, the real power still lies with the crown, albeit highly covertly
>>543229592thats total bullshit and you're retarded
>>543229336>t. Commie retard The entire capitalism vs communism dialectic is an inherently materialistic and thus jewish paradigm anon. Both extremes posit that human happiness and contentment (both collective and individual), are necessarily functions of access to resources and consoooooming
>>543229553There has to be an appetite for self sacrifice for the temple to succeed. Either from shitty conditions, being made to believe youre redeeming yourself by doing so, or a belief that youll unite with a higher power if you doFor their idea to work, it would preferably be all of them.im sorry, were you laboring under the assumption that they sought a brave new world full of paradise and wonder you?Thats what WE want.They want the old world back. The Golden Age. The Time of Gods.
>>543229732accurate.very materialistic worldviews.its already breaking down tho. just look at the jewelry industry
>>543229215and youre doing the same thing again with Cagliostro. You take one man, slap “Jew” on him, then magically turn an entire Egyptian Masonic current into a primarily Jewish revolutionary apparatus.Cagliostro was born Giuseppe Balsamo in Palermo and raised Catholic. Claims about Jewish ancestry exist in older literature, but even if you grant them for the sake of argument, that still doesnt make his rite “Jewish.” Egyptian Masonry was an occult-Masonic synthesis pulling from Hermetic, alchemical, Christian, Kabbalistic and Egyptianizing material. Thats not the same thing as “a Jewish rite.”If it was primarily Jewish, then prove it the normal fucking way, show the membership, officers, financiers, correspondence, lodges, recruitment networks and command structure. Dont point at Cagliostro and then ethnically relabel everybody around him.And “therefore it instigated the French Revolution.” Again, prove the fucking arrow. The Diamond Necklace scandal doesnt make Egyptian Masonry the command center of 1789.This is exactly the reduction Ive been calling out the entire thread: find one Jewish node, ignore every non-Jewish node around it, then rename the whole network Jewish.Thats not tracing a network. Thats laundering a conclusion through one biography!and even your “Egyptian Rite = Jewish revolutionary apparatus” line falls apart once you actually look at Cagliostro’s circle. One of his major Egyptian-Rite patrons was Cardinal Louis de Rohan, his own brother Ferdinand de Rohan was simultaneously the lover of Charlotte Stuart, Bonnie Prince Charlie’s daughter, and fathered her children. Cagliostro was also operating through the broader Strict Observance/Scottish high-degree milieu, not some isolated ethnic Jewish structure.So no, you dont get to take one disputed Jewish connection around Cagliostro and relabel the whole rite “Jewish.” The network was already crossing straight into the surviving Stuart/Jacobite world.
>>543229790that seems unlikely
>>543223604To guard the secrets of the ages, and become tools in the "great work" to bring about a new "golden age." In our age they define golden age as a one world government so controlled that there isn't any war or suffering anymore and everyone is "happy." They will define what happiness is. They will directly control every aspect of your life. It will make modern day China seem like an anarcho state compared. Zero rights or freedoms.
>>543229410>Schacht having a Warburg connection I just took the first name you posted retard, because you're too lazy and incompetent to actually spell out your arguments, resorting to random lists which you then claim lack jewish influence or whatever, hence 'its not the jews'To support this, you make some vague insinuations and random enumerations of power centers, then call this 'giving me a network'. You're actually trying to make me do your work, like an actual schlomo, kekWhy don't you start by demonstrating how these 'jacobite/hanoverian networks' have benefited their owners and peoples, like e.g. the Rothschilds, their misraite masonic minions, and their fellow jews as a whole have benefited demonstrably and incrementally from every single happening in the past 200 years?
>>543229915>no warsounds gay
>>543229882unlikely to be the case, or unlikely to succeed?ill give you the latterthe former? mf have you read revelation? Its spelled out pretty clearly that when sacrifice begins in the temple is when shtf
>>543229882Do you want me to tell you how that is probably a freemason who is disillusioned with his life? I just feel bad for them. I don't know what they have sacrificed for "knowledge"
>>543229971>Its spelled out pretty clearly that when sacrifice begins in the temple is when shtfif its even true why would that remotely imply half of what you said? theyve never had problems abducting peoples kids and sacrificing them
>>543229915https://youtu.be/FHx2nLFMAzE?is=pfa67oURkh0VvIG4They also call it Clownworld.
>>543223604Self mastery.
>>543223604One world religion. Some people say the end times religion is satanism, which is false. Satan still sees himself as Lucifer. He wants to ascend to the holy mountain again. That’s why stylized mountains like pyramids and ziggurats are common motifs in pagan religions.
>>543229875Cagliostro was quite obviously a jew. Are you sure this is a hill you want to die on?
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>>543229882>You now remember Cern Shiva
>>543229875your posts are interesting.where did u get these info? i want to know more.give me some materials. i wish i could map things out like u r doing.also u didn't answer op's question.so what is their end goal?thx
>>543230005Covertly is different than overtly, and sacrificing to each other is different than sacrificing to god(s).. Theyre on a dangerous precipice where the flock have been kept in the dark for too long and allowed to grow too strong, they will resist if they attempt a Grand Harvest.
>>543223604to manifest their will over God's will
>>543230029>That’s why stylized mountains like pyramids and ziggurats are common motifs in pagan religions.Or maybe because they're the most stable geometries for lasting structures and thus the first builders would construct them because they were lasting?But no, you have to inject your homoerotic version of Satan as the fallen angel (a Paradise Lost era fanfic by the way).
https://youtu.be/f4Mc-NYPHaQ?si=zsifI6Fm3JVbnmbS&t=71>at 1:11
>>543223604The goal of freemasons is to uphold and spread jewish mysticism, financial and political backing to jews and further jewish goals like tikkun olam in secular goodie goodie ways like human rights to break down borders pretty much, it is like the UN declaration of nonsense rights but packed in a spiritual way, that makes it sound wholesome to normal people. They are self hating Whites i.e mostly Christians. I've been to a visit to three freemasonic lodges, when I was around 14 and was allowed to see one of their big square ritual rooms in person. It is all just jewish and you have to believe in the jewish conception of god to be a freemason
>>543230288cant see it what hand sign did he doalso its more like 1:12 or 13
>>543229875>“therefore it instigated the French Revolution.” Again, prove the fucking arrow.I said it helped instigate it. Many threads which could prove this have of course, long gone. Many others are buried deeply. But yes, that necklace is still a lose end, it involved the jew Cagliostro, his mystic fakery and mind control, and a concerted campaign to destroy the Bourbons reputation
>>543230399the tranny is singing "god knows i want to break free" and opens the door to a masonic lodgethe essence of luciferianismthat and apotheosis
>>543230291I think a lot of them are partially mixed with jews and some of them probably just bred to be unwhite
>>543230475oh i thought you meant what he was doing with his hands very quickly, thought he did a triple 6 or something
>>543229875The concept is in and of itself not fundamentally flawed. It is understandable why you must bear Atlas' weight; however, the logic, methods and intent even from the G.A.O.T.U. was inherently flawed and degenerate - the Ouroboros.Thats why Hiram escaped, after all - he knew Solomon was up to this shit, and that wasnt the way the magic was supposed to go. You guys have had key things wrong, some of which come from outsiders that didnt know key contexts of the deeper conflicts of this star system, or the nature of our betrayal and subsequent framing - so to them it looks different
>>543229553That’s what forgiveness is in a sense, anon. Sacrificing yourself willingly. If someone steals your shirt but you’re like “you can have it bro” instead of taking it back and demanding damages and the dude put in jail. Every civilization of any complexity is inherently dependent on death and destruction of natural systems (including other cultures and societies) to sustain itself. Thats what the esoteric meaning of sacrifice in various religions is (not just judaism), the recognition that taking part in complex civilization means taking part in death and destruction. No amount of layers of economic and social systems extraction us from it, even if we pretend they do. What it means is that societies have to have willing sacrificial victims again. When Christ offered himself up as the sacrifice for all of us, he showed us men the way: to have a family and society, you must be willing to accept being the sacrificial lamb at times. That worked out in Christian societies for a long time as all of that could be organized so it was pointed toward our groups (a foreign kingdom, barbarian tribe, foreign racial group, different religion). In a long term sense Christianity can only work so long as it has an arbitrary outgroup it can somehow label as evil believably enough and use that as a rallying enemy for the faithful. What do you think Frodo was in Lord of the Rings, bud? He was the sacrifice, that’s why he couldn’t live in the Shire or middle earth anymore, he had to go to the west across the ocean to the undying lands. That’s kind of what Tolkien was getting at with the scouring of the shire in the books, but they left that out in the movies because obviously it’s not a happy ending. It never is for the sacrificial victims. Christ pulled off the impossible, making people believe in the power of self sacrifice again in a world which had devolved into endless lying and self centered manipulation and fighting
>>543223604>I'm tired of being controlled by the secret club of the rich elite, I'll start my own club of local powerful business owners and free thinkers to take control of our own community.They get big. They become the secret club of the rich elite. Somebody else starts a new club. Rince and repeat.
NYT article from 1912
>>543229949I never said “there was no Jewish influence.” I said Jewish actors were contested nodes inside larger rival networks, and you keep turning every Jewish connection into proof that the whole structure was Jewish.“show how Jacobite/Hanoverian networks benefited their people the way Jews benefited from every event for 200 years” is a category error. Jacobites and Hanoverians werent ethnic collectivities. They were dynastic, financial, military, clerical and political networks that intersected.Clients benefited unevenly, their branches split, some won, some lost, some defected, some got absorbed. Thats exactly what a real network looks like.“the Rothschilds and Jews benefited from every single happening for 200 years” is just fucking false for like the 5th time with you. Rothschild branches closed, lost markets, were nationalized and confiscated, i've layed it out multiple times to you!the 1830s-1850s were not some clean story of “Jews winning.” Revolutions and counterrevolutions where Stuart-affiliated bloodlines, legitimist/royalists/loyalists governments and networks, and British/Hanoverian/Dutch interests were all hedging across different outcomes. Revolutionaries/reformists on one side, royalists on the other, branches split across both. Dont put all your eggs in one basket!I keep telling you these revolutions werent clean binary events. The same older networks could survive regime change because they had people, money, family ties and political access spread across competing camps.lending money doesnt automatically mean you “benefited.” If I lend to a state that loses, defaults, repudiates debt or collapses, I lose my fucking money. A creditor is not automatically the owner of the borrower. If you want to prove who benefited, trace who lent to whom, who actually got repaid, who defaulted, who lost principal and who came out with the political leverage afterward. Otherwise youre just seeing a Jewish lender and assuming he won.
>>543230005> when sacrifice begins in the temple is when shtfAll of this jewish stuff has to be read via language of branches interpretation anon. It’s a wisdom tradition that was cloaked in a religion/culture long ago. The Kabbalists and Rabbis themselves say so. Anyway, what is actually means is that FOR the temple and sacrifice to exist again, shit just hit the fan and the people be so desperate they’re willing to do it, to try anything. A leap of collective faith What do you think the first people who practiced sedentary agriculture and setting up complex civilizations all did? They were people who at some point had been brought to a level of collective desperation, so they collectively were willing to take the leap of faith on thus complex civilization idea. This stuff isn’t even necessarily jewish, they learned tons of it from the Egyptians.
>>543229875>If it was primarily Jewish, then prove it the normal fucking way, show the membership, officers, financiers, correspondence, lodges, recruitment networks and command structure.If you'd done just a few seconds of genuine research, you wouldn't have to ask. See this shit is how I know you're not arguing in good faith at all>>543230168Samefagging faggot holy kek
>>543230875youre still answering a different argument. Ive already dealt with Misraim with you. its a POST-Revolutionary rite, NOT PRE, with Jewish membership, which does not retroactively prove that Jews were running the revolutionary architecture before 1789, its 25 years later! Reposting the same claim doesnt fix the chronology.More importantly, it still doesnt answer my actual point. Ive been showing you a contested network with Stuart/Jacobite, Hanoverian/Whig, Dutch-Genevan, Catholic, Templar/Scottish and Jewish nodes crossing the same revolutionary and counterrevolutionary space.And you keep finding one Jewish strand, declaring the whole structure Jewish, and ignoring every other strand I bring up. Thats not a rebuttal! Thats just refusing to engage the architecture of the argument.
>>543230725>Jacobites and Hanoverians werent ethnic collectivities.I didn't mean the ethnic category shitwit. I mean their people, their bloodlines, their power structures - how have they benefited?And I ask because when it comes to jewish elites, you don't even have to> Rothschild branches closed, lost markets, were nationalized and confiscated, Nonsense. You mentioned the Naples branch, which was just scrapped to neutralize a black sheep, and had done its task of securing Italy's entrance to the Rothschild foldAs to nationalizations, yeah that was well into the 20th century when Rothschilds tried to go undercover, having reached one of their prime objectives (remember DEAR LORD ROTHSCHILD?)So yeah Rothschilds, and jews, have only continued to benefit. Got their own homeland, agents at the apex of power everywhere, and a hyperpower doing their biddingNow remind me what your hanoverian jacobites have?
>>543230029> One world religion.That pretty much already exists. The extreme majority of the people on the planet use money to conduct economics, which is the oldest form of inherently unreal witchcraft there is. Importantly, everyone on Earth speaks that language and religion. With enough currency, I can go anywhere in the world and live like a king with tons of opportunities. Religion isn’t our narratives and dogmas. It’s what we consider most important and holy and will move mountains for. God as an idea and force exists for individuals But God also exists as an idea in some way for every society collectively. If a society considers a cow most holy, it will be. If a society considers the pyramids the expression of God and heaven on Earth, it will be. If a society does everything on the basis of the GDP and what makes money, then obviously God to that society is money. At least here it even says so on our currency. That’s actually what Nietzsche meant by “God is dead”Not that the infinite mind of God that drives everything forward has somehow changed. How we viewed God collectively changed.
>>543223604Sucking multiple dicks
>>543230229That doesn’t explain the enormous scale.
>>543231273>The extreme majority of the people on the planet use money to conduct economics, which is the oldest form of inherently unreal witchcraft there is.Another mind numbingly stupid claim. A medium of exchange and value and goods/services do not have any inherent "witchcraft" or "spiritual" component to them. This is moronic.
>>543230562boy howdy thats a moodbut christs sacrifice was... immensely more complex than that lol. Reducing the gravity of his actions to a mere literary theme about the human condition is at best a drastic oversimplification, at worst a deliberate obfuscation
>>543230481A lot of the ones I met were 95% boomers and proud Christians, but some of them could definitely be a little mixed up with the tribe. I was a young teenager then, so I didn't know at the time, that these tools serve our racial destruction through jewry, but sometimes you learn most after experiencing contact with you're enemies. Everyone should at least talk or be near to a few of these and a jew or two and try listening to them in real life and then you're convictions of the racial worldview gets confirmed ten times fold
>>543231211>Jews were running the revolutionary architecture before 1789,I never said they did, you disingenuous fuckI've said the jew Cagliostro, founder of the Egyptian rite, was instrumental in instigating the French Revolution. Then his Egyptian rite after the Restoration was used by jews to set up Misraite lodges everywhere, which went on to foment revolutions and subvert politics for well over a century, including the Philadelphes and the First International, the Carbonari, and the Young Movements among which the cryptojewish Young Turks and the Black Hand, and finally, the NSDAP
>>543231483proud Christians wouldn't become freemasons though, its even worse than retarded zionist "Christians"
>>543231312It kind of does. Geometric stability = long lasting. Geometries of other structures have long since failed/collapsed. So obviously they would have selected for geometries that allow long lasting structures, and those happen to be a lot of the ones you still see standing. I guarantee you that if spherical structures were stable you would right now be making up head canon about how spherical structures symbolize some malevolent practice.
He was correct. Speaking the truth to sheep is pointless. Enjoy walking around blind.
>>543229215>Wrong>'The Egyptian stuff' was initially used by jews (Cagliostro) to help instigate the French Revolution (see diamond necklace affair)>Napoleon went to Egypt in the first place under the influence of Egyptian Rite freemasons in his entourage, such as general Kleber, who also initiated him into his lodge there>>543231535>I never said they did, you disingenuous fuckLol, fucking idiot.
>>543231381It kind of is however you wish to slice it anon. You’re representing real, tangible goods, services and human labor with a fundamentally unreal idea that exists only as a concept Why do you think natives took one look at stacks of currency and said “fuck that I want gunpowder, whiskey and beads for my bitches” Currency is only useful in a society in which it’s being utilized Whereas things which are real are useful no matter who or what picks them up
>>543223604To find a mason who works free
>>543231743>they do it for freeare jannies all freemasons
>>543231733>It kind of is however you wish to slice it anon. You’re representing real, tangible goods, services and human labor with a fundamentally unreal idea that exists only as a conceptAbstract =/= spiritual or witchcraft. Are spaces, geometries, numbers and formal systems also examples of spiritual works and witchcraft? And besides, information is often more valuable than raw goods. This is why a subsaharan sitting on top of endless resources never came to being able to utilize them.
>>543231657How does >help instigateequate to >running the revolutionary architecture??You slimy weasel, lmao
>>543231448We’re having a philosophical discussion about sacrifice and how it fits into various traditions and understandings anon. The post wasn’t meant to be a religious reverence post.
>>543231573You could have a perfectly stable 10 ft. Pyramid, but that wouldn’t be very mountain like.
>>543232010There are lots of those lmao. You're making your own deliberate decision to focus on the few select most famous / grand ones.Literally putting a stick in your wheel and then pointing at "wicked pagan practices" causing your fall.
>>543223604>What is the end goal of freemasonry?no unlicensed niggers cut stone i think. they fucking hate it.
>>543232010>big pyramids are magicalthere were small pyramids before those on the giza plateau and there were small pyramids after. the pyramids on the giza plateau are the aberration. it was just a rich cunt trying to mog poor nigger, fail.
>>543227127> where priests have effectively unlimited power in deciding what you think and how you live likeThat happened only in the west after Frankish military officers took over the Catholic church and became bishops, for the sole purpose of pacifying people and crashing resistance to their rule. And the Greco-Romans persecuted and murdered Christians for 400 years for refusing to worship the god-emperor, who effectively had unlimited power in deciding what you think and how you live like.
>>543223604Freemasonry is a jewish cult. Their traditions, rituals, alegory etc all revolve around some sort of Jewishness. The end goal is that they "spread freemasonry across the globe" . ie. jewishness
>>543231888>>543231657youre still treating one strand as the whole fucking machine. Cagliostro, Egyptian Rite, Misraim, Carbonari, Young movements, First International, Young Turks, Black Hand, NSDAP is an enormous chain, and finding Jewish members or Kabbalistic influence at points along it does not establish one continuous uncontested Jewish command structure.If anything, the British/Anglo-Dutch interpretation has a much stronger institutional spine than “Jews did everything.” There is an entire literature tradition putting Palmerston/British networks behind Mazzini, the Young movements and later revolutionary organization, then another literature following Bank of England, Montagu Norman, Schacht and Anglo-Dutch finance into the German period. And unlike some vague ethnic category, parts of that later architecture are just objectively there: Norman and Schacht had extensive correspondence, and the BIS itself says that after reparations effectively ended it became a regular forum linking the Bank of England, Reichsbank, Dutch central bank and other European central banks throughout the 1930s. Bank of Englandim not saying the Jewish/Misraim strand is imaginary. Im saying youre elevating one contested strand into the master explanation while dismissing a British/Dutch/central-bank architecture that is both heavily represented in the literature and, in important places, much easier to document institutionally. Thats exactly backwards if youre actually trying to map who was using whom.
>>543223786Above the shoulders. That's two hits for you.
>>543232294The first attempt at a pyramid was the step pyramid of Djoser. The smaller ones came during the decline.
>>543227607No, Lucifer is the opposing force to Satan/Saturn/(((Them)))
>>543231877Here, let’s make this easier for you. Representing REAL things with abstract ideas fundamentally is a form of witchcraft, or theologians of the past labeled problematic ideas and abstractions as witchcraft, especially if they threatened power. That’s what magic and shit are, science of the mind from times pre-dating modern scientific understandings of psychology and sociology That’s why religions such as Buddhism place such an emphasis on observation and staying grounded. I get it, currency has been important for society and it’s certainly necessary and has been for a long time. The important part to learn is that there was a time and a natural condition spiritually in which we lived without it. There will be a time people like you will say something like AI isn’t a big deal because it’s merely an abstraction of human intelligence and the human experience, but that’s the point. It’s replacing real things and real people with fundamentally unreal things which are based in desire.
>>543232300>That happened only in the west after Frankish military officers took over the Catholic church and became bishopsNah it happened the second Christianity managed to grasp state power. They banned and suppressed worship and native culture right away.>And the Greco-Romans persecuted and murdered Christians for 400 yearsLmao ok. More headcanon. These early persecutions were pretty much limited to a few Emperors. Christianity was never "banned" in the same way at state level and co-existed with other beliefs in the region. Its funny how Christians never gave others the same tolerance though once they became the power.
>>543232551>Representing REAL things with abstract ideas fundamentally is a form of witchcraftSo a map that shows what a region or district looks like is witchcraft? You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>543223604What branch? Where in the world? It’s not the same a lodge in Barcelona than a lodge in Hollywood.
>>543227127Fake freedom from christianity to install jewish despotism in its stead. You are sitll not getting the whole "long con" game they've been playing.
>>543232761Christianity IS Jewish despotism. Christians understand the world only through Jewish scripture, Jewish culture, and Jewish priests.
>>543232652NTA but maps weren't something people used until recently.
>>543223604Depopulation down to 1 Billion people, hoard all the resources and live in comfy while the plebs live with 18th century technology, etc etc.Its all in the lore of Steins;Gate
>>543233028What's your time window for "recently" considering there are examples well before Ptolemy's map.
>>543223604>What is the end goal of freemasonry?To get masonry done for free
>>543232596When did Christianity manage to grasp state power? Roman law was always the source of justice, both in the western and eastern empires, and not the Church. And yeah, Nero, Domitian, Trajan, Aurelius, Decius, Valerianus, Septimius Severus, Maximinus, Maximinus II, Trebonianus, Diocletian and Galerius are just a few emperors.
>>543223604Goyim fraternity, no real goal. No real wisdom.
>>543232652No, how religions and us in modern times have imagined witchcraft as some Disney retard poof from nothing bullshit is incorrect. “Witchcraft” as labeled in old times was just various people engaging in psychological trickery shit to organize collectives of people to achieve goals. Super successful witchcraft became their own religions Psychology and sociology of today have become unquestionable religions for atheistic thinkers. You’re trying to imagine the idea from a silly traditional perspective. I’m saying think about witchcraft like Carl Jung did. Not bullshit to get a date or Prince Charming, but a means of understanding human science of the mind and organizing collectives before modern marketing and psychology and sociology systems existed.
>>543232347>finding Jewish members or Kabbalistic influence at points along it does not establish one continuous uncontested Jewish command structure.I never said they were uncontested. I've no doubt some among the European elites must have tried to counter the twin blades of Rothschild money power and Misraite subversion. But they were quite obviously unsuccessful, and to be honest, given the record, extraordinarily incompetentWhat we do see at times in this broad chain I've sketched, is perfect unison between Rothschild objectives and Misraite subversion (e.g. zionism on the one hand, and the Young Turks, Black Hand, and NSDAP on the other)> Palmerston/British networks behind Mazzini, the Young movements and later revolutionary organization,Well, they often were. And it's clear by now British elites were played like a fiddle by the jews in their midst while engineering WW1, and WW2>Norman and Schacht had extensive correspondenceI don't much value such sources, but just a reminder here that Norman was a theosophist (=misraite) and his bff Schacht was a Warburg (Rothschild) protege>a British/Dutch/central-bank architecture that is both heavily represented in the literature and, in important places, much easier to document institutionally. And what has this 'architecture' done for the Dutch and the English? Or even for its own power structure? Their scheming led to their countries being conquered by the US, their colonies gone, their influence dwindles, their own peoples a minority in their homelands Meanwhile the Rothschilds and their fellow jews have > their own homeland, agents at the apex of power everywhere, and a hyperpower doing their bidding
>>543233243>When did Christianity manage to grasp state power?When it started aggressively banning practices and suppressing local culture, so around ~380-400 which is coincidentally just before the Western Roman Empire collapsed.>And yeah, Nero, Domitian, Trajan, Aurelius, Decius, Valerianus, Septimius Severus, Maximinus, Maximinus II, Trebonianus, Diocletian and Galerius are just a few emperors.None of these ever took steps as drastic and suppressive as what Christianity did once it gained power. This is why Christians kept existing in the region.
>>543223604LarpingNot sure why Pagans hate them so much. They have a common goal.
>>543229732Materialism just means that the purpose of the state is in the material world, not spiritual. Which is common sense.
>>543233324Yes I'm sure to an uninformed ancient person electricity might seem like witchcraft, but that's just not the proper definition of what the word is supposed to mean. You can't just assign "witchcraft" to any abstract system you don't like - especially ones that we know quite well. Just accept your L here.
>>543227688Life is a conflict between different Biological Groups, and yes, Jews are at the center of that, because Jews are a mutt race, and Masonry advocates for the abolishment of all distinctions, i.e. terraforming the world into something more suitable for mutts.But of course we know that is retarded, and it's why Hitler names not only the Jews but the Masons especially.Masons are suicidal beings who were rape bonded at birth to serve the interests of evil. Sad, but they cannot be healed at this point.
>>543227982Or, National Socialism, and Ethnic Identity, acting out the will of Nature and God and not the will of some idiotic boy fucking cultists.
>>543233243> When did Christianity manage to grasp state power?When it became the official state religion under Constantine, fucking retard Within only a couple emperors they were already violently purging the native Roman religious practitioners
>>543233340youre still missing the actual model im laying out. WWI didnt “defeat Germany.” It shattered and dispersed major continental dynastic structures that still carried Stuart-descended and legitimist bloodlines through the Habsburg-Lorraine, Romanov and related European houses. Franz Ferdinand himself sat inside that broader Stuart-descended dynastic web directly.My point is that after that decentralization, you then have to ask who was trying to recentralize Europe, through what financial and political machinery, and why the British/Anglo-Dutch-Genavean side keeps reappearing around interwar Germany, Norman, Schacht, BIS and the wider central-bank architecture.And this is exactly why your ethnic model is too crude. Even the Egyptian/Misraim material youre citing doesnt give you “Jews versus everyone else.” Some Jewish and esoteric circles were already intertwined with diffused Stuart/Jacobite-adjacent families and continental aristocratic networks. Cagliostro's Rohan circle alone already complicates your clean separation.So the real question isnt “did Jews appear in these movements?” Obviously some did. Its which Jewish faction was aligned with which older dynastic/financial bloc, against whom, and at what stage?You keep turning a contested intermediary layer into the sovereign actor. Im saying the deeper continuity may be the older Stuart/legitimist versus Anglo-Dutch/Hanoverian/Genavean financial-state struggle, with Jewish networks appearing on more than one side rather than sitting magically above the whole thing.
>>543233369They banned certain practices like human sacrifices, not the entire religion, here's the actual decree of Theodosius, is that what you want back, sacrificing people and strongly interpreting their intestines? Wew such a great local culture! >"Hereafter no one … shall in any place or in any city sacrifice an innocent victim to a senseless image... If any one undertakes by way of sacrifice to slay a victim or to consult the smoking entrails, let him, as guilty of lese-majesty, receive the appropriate sentence, having been accused by a lawful indictment"
>>543233707Constantine was a priest? He was a general, he ruled and not the church. Here's your native religious practitioners dumbass barbarian dog. >>543233909
>>543233710>WWI didnt “defeat Germany.” It shattered and dispersed major continental dynastic structuresIt didn't FINISH Germany, and that was by design, because Germany had to be completely destroyed and scapegoated, and for that WW2 was necessary (and planned accordingly long before)> why the British/Anglo-Dutch-Genavean side keeps reappearingMostly it was used as useful idiots to orchestrate WW2, just like the Milner group and such had been for WW1In any case, after WW2 they, too, were finished>Even the Egyptian/Misraim material youre citing doesnt give you “Jews versus everyone else.”Plenty of shabbos goyim, sure. Plenty of naive native elites believing they could make common cause with the jews against whomever. All easy prey>Jewish networks appearing on more than one side rather than sitting magically above the whole thing.You know, I'd love to believe this, but the cold hard facts just don't support it, and you're not helping given your utter lack of sources
>>543223604Rebuild the third temple in Jerusalem so the Jews can be our slave-masters in a more open fashion.
>>543233909Nobody was sacrificing humans in Greco-Roman culture dumbass. In fact long before that (hundreds of years), Greeks and Romans already heavily blasted Carthagian human/infant sacrifice as a flawed and dangerous practice.
>>543233369Seeing you, a supposed "Canadian" and possibly a mason, get absolutely shellacked by common sense while your rebuttals both lack humility AND stand outside the territory of neutral and objective consensus is hilarious. They mind raped you so good LOL, please try and actually reverse the curse you placed on your family when you took your gay LARP vows you fucking malthusian pot bellied incestous pedophilic frat boy wannabe. Times ticking, pack your shit dork.
>>543234146youre proving my point by making the theory impossible to falsify. British/Anglo-Dutch interests show up doing the actual institutional work? “useful idiots.” European elites cooperate with Jewish actors? “shabbos goyim.” British power declines after the war? “they were finished.” Jewish actor loses? strategic sacrifice. Jewish actor wins? proof of control.thats not “cold hard facts.” Thats a framework where every possible outcome gets reinterpreted as Jewish victory after the fact.And posting some old polemical quote saying “Rothschild is the one power in Europe” doesnt solve that. Thats somebody asserting Rothschild supremacy, not demonstrating that every British, Dutch, Genevan, Hanoverian, Stuart, Masonic, revolutionary and counterrevolutionary network was subordinate to it.Ive been giving you the real architecture, older dynastic and financial blocs survive through marriages, institutions, banks, exile networks and political movements, sometimes cooperating with Jewish financiers, sometimes opposing them, sometimes using the same revolutionary currents. You keep taking every Jewish connection inside that mess and promoting it to the top of the pyramid.And then when I point to the documented British/Dutch/central-bank side, you literally answer “yeah, they did it, but Jews were secretly using them.” Thats literally not rebutting the network. Thats just renaming every non-Jewish power structure a Jewish proxy whenever it becomes inconvenient.
>>543223604Building with stone, laying bricks and shit
>>543234286Who mind raped me and into what? I can read, study, and reason about any system I want. I can read Plato's works, switch to the NT, OT, switch to enlightenment philosophy, modern empirical and formal systems. I'm not a slave to one source or a group of semitic priests.On the other hand, you are like a child that needs constant supervision and being told how to think. What's it like to be a subhuman?
>>543233160They're not intended for navigation.
>>543232480KYS
>>543234438Subhuman? Keep a close eye on the words you harbor and the time remaining on the clock. This is not the time to be spouting supremacism. Your skeleton is showing and the total functional value of masonic beliefs is being brought to light. Unfortunately for you, the lights are being turned on and you're actually incestously partnered with fraternal bonds that reject both the father and the son. No wonder you get along with atheists and communists so swimmingly. Just wait until the children of masons start telling the public the kinds of things their daddies get up to.
>>543234315>making the theory impossible to falsify.The theory isn't impossible to falsify. It could be refuted by showing the non-jewish interests you keep emphasizing actually winning anything, extending their power and control, prospering and thriving, putting their own people on the top everywhere and so on, as I've demonstrated again and again for the jewish side>British/Anglo-Dutch interests show up doing the actual institutional work? “useful idiots.Well, they demonstrably were. The anglo Round Table faggots saw their hegemony move overseas, their colonies gone, their fortunes dwarfed. And the jew? He got his DEAR LORD ROTHSCHILD, his own ethnostate, and his agents in power everywhere> polemical quote saying “Rothschild is the one power in Europe”That wasn't polemical at all. Stop taking me for a fellow midwitThere really was very little doubt about the financial primacy of the Rothschilds in the 19th century, even today there isn't among historians>promoting it to the top of the pyramid.Because they demonstrably were, and there's very little real indication that they somehow abdicated that position
>>543223604Some dastardly plot based on their belief in Lucifer being the supreme being, which is retarded
>>543234893TWO MORE WEEKS until the end times amirite?>No wonder you get along with atheists and communists so swimmingly. Not really. I view communism with the same dislike I have for Christianity. Both are centralized Semitic systems that suppress freedom. Christians are effectively spiritual communists.
>>543233432Materialism is also a spiritual philosophy anon, it’s what atheism argues. That the material world and physicality have no consciousness to it, no subtle driving force behind reality, just that it’s stuff that happened randomly. Materialism in a religious sense can mean chasing material goods and it often does, but it has a very real definition too within the context of philosophy and physics. We know now that materialism as a philosophy for reality is kind of dead and old hat. At the quantum level reality is adjusting to observation. That kind of stuff wouldn’t happen under the dead materialism philosophy that prevailed in the 20th century especially. It’s not an argument for a particular religion, just that we live in an existence which is fundamentally information in nature.
>>543233983He was an emperor who officially adopted Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire. Are you trying to argue the religion or actual state religion of an empire is irrelevant to its governance?
>>543234315Do you have any idea how obvious it is you’re a jew in this thread anon?
>>543223926makes sense but needs small dollar signs that are the individual stones of the pyramid
>>543229336>communism breaks their shitcommunists are the lowest of the low superstitios gullible retard cunts out there go fuck yourself lol
>>543224160Freedom for everyone to „Do what thou wilt”, yeah exactly…
>>543230399>hand signlike this one?
>>543235115>I study everything but only follow the things that allow me to centralize knowledge from the public so i can call them profane and induce learned helplessnessFreedom fighter #51538 over here thinks his boy bride is free now. Somebody get this guy a yoda funko pop, STAT!
>>543236454>centralized knowledge from the publicWhere? You can read any book, learn any skill or field, or discover brand new things. Information access has never been more accessible. It's all at your fingertips.>induce learned helplessnessI think you're responsible for your own induced learned helplessness from the fact that you're useless. Try getting a skill?
>>543223604Boomer cyclist meeting eachother at a public park restroom around 3am to give eachother old sloppy butt sex. In theory
>>543236542>Where is my trafficking network?No you're right dude, children just traffic themselves >Information access has never been more accessibleLike masons having their daughters taken by other masons? Or having special bonds in courtrooms? Yeah man, nothing at all is centralized. >Society suffers and if you didn't join an organization that survives by cannibalizing survivors of an asymetric war on national identity and familial bonds then you just aren't gonna make it, champEventually, socialists run out of other people's money. Masons suffer the same fate, the only difference is that they continue their march to the grave and only witness the flash of hellfire at the last moment when they're on their deathbeds and reflect on what they took and what they gave.
>>543223926Stalin was worse for Jews than Hitler, I love how clueless this board is
>>543236984>schizophrenic off-topic ranting turns to trafficking networks and children out of nowhereYou ok guy?
Doesn't matter what their endgame is because Jesus Christ wins in the end lmao
>>543237117>out of nowhere
Getting thire ass fill with cum on the DL.
>>543237279>arguing about the impact of religion on state affairs and individual freedom>retard loses>retard starts ranting about about some schizo shit about kids
>>543237398>cant argue against the religious affairs of freemasonry>because>just because, okay? pls stop talking about masonic child abuse :(Buck broken. They really did give it to your brain doggy style lol. Does your family know what you agreed to in the rituals?
>>543223604>What is the end goal of freemasonry?I imagine it is the absolute certainty that there is nothing to be held accountable for. Then you die and some new recruit gets his ass shaved and paddled in your honor and then has a nice meal.
>>543223604A male Bene gesserit
>>543237862Imagine just making up shit on the fly when you start losing an argument. Especially considering how many Christians and Muslims in authority turn out to be pedos.
>>543229949Thanks for all your posts, I saved all your images you posted previously in other threads. You're the best poster I've seen on this dead imageboard in years.
>>543229410You're the same memeflag faggot that posted in the other thread a few days ago about the History of jews. Now here you are poisoning the well as usual, Chaim.
>>543238123For Moshiachhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rwIy6OeNwuILook unto the days of warningA night that the sky is burningWhen stars collidePure mathematical perfectionAncient pain feeds resurrectionWhen stars collideForged in flames, sacred fireBorn in eastern sands of guileBorn is he, ten millenniaAfter the Clouding of manSincerest venerationFor he that vindicates the end of manSworn are we, ten millenniaAfter the Clouding of manUnleash abominationAs we accelerate the end of man
>>543229336only reason retards hate commies so much because it ended thier 12 year reich
>>543223604>What is the end goal of freemasonry?Hide the Truth about Flat pancake earth, the Firmament & other Realms, the Moon, the Sun. Basically like the Smithsonians. Corrupt History, destroy knowledge and replace it with absolute nonsense garbage. The End Goal is to make you a gullible naive profane controllable slave.
>>543238185...aaaand you leave out Judaism so you can set frame to switch victim and offender roles on rebuttal. I wonder what you'll turn out to be?
Be a social club, mysticism is a glownigger and kabbalah jew thing now.
>>543223604To inverse and destroy God's creation, to corrupt Man beyond redemption, to essentially destroy the good in people, to create hell on earth and force God's hand.
>>543238678Hey he is performing a nice trick! Let him finish it for his goyim masters he is trying to convince.
>>543238678>...aaaand you leave out JudaismEveryone already knows what these degens do in hollywood and on epstein's island. Looks pretty consistent to me that all followers of semitic spiritualism fuck kids.
>>543233340Stop answering the memeflag. Just filter him out. Why do you feed the vampire? He's just here to make you rage and steal your energy anon.
>>543233369>One World ReligionAbrahamism. Anything related to Abraham is complete nonsense cocktail of poison. Hail Polytheism.
>>543234146>Germany had to be completely destroyed and scapegoated, and for that WW2 was necessary (and planned accordingly long before)You can thank Theodor Herzl and Anton Drexler for that.
>>543235554He made himself known to be a jew in the Forbidden Knowledge thread also a few days ago that was 404ed:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/542983099Scroll down to the middle of the thread to see this same memeflag making 100 posts.
>>5432371122 sides of the same coin.
>>543230168its not really from one source. its accumulated across hundreds, probably thousands, of sources over time. the original synthesis was mostly something I worked out independently by tracing iranian royal bloodline intermarriages and reconvergences from the achaemenid world, through the greco-persian/greco-roman synthesis, and forward into later european royal and aristocratic families.from there I started following the marriages, claims, dynasties, banking relationships, exile networks, wars, revolutions, masonry and state institutions forward and backward. only after I had already derived most of that architecture did I start finding a very small, very niche group of people who had independently touched pieces of the same thing. Leuren Moret is one of the people I eventually came across on the iranian royal transmission into european elite bloodlines.for the broader anglo-dutch/genevan financier / british-imperial side, EIR is probably the richest modern source-body ive found. again, I dont just inherit their worldview, I use it alongside contemporary records, genealogies, correspondence, loans and institutional history.the weird part is that there really isnt some large established school laying all of this out. the corroborative community is tiny and fragmented, to the point it barely exists. most people notice one piece. the overarching synthesis came from me connecting the pieces independently first, then finding scattered people afterward who had noticed parts of the same structure.
>>543238712Which God are you referring to? Chronos? Just curious. I am a polytheist. Monotheism is poison.
You gotta make an email to "borrow" the book Secret texts : the literature of secret societies on Internet Archive. What are they hiding?
>>543239636Are you going for 100+ posts like in the Forbidden Knowledge thread?https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/542983099
>>543223604Every citizen living in a well-constructed brick home
>>543239644Or you can just read it here.https://archive.org/details/secrettextsliter0000unse
>>543239511go and read my comments. Pull up where i "made myself known", all while we had kekfags in there shitting everything up like ThreadOps troll farmers for the english crown preventing anons from waking up to the actual structure of the world order.
>>543239810I did. After a 2 comments in that thread, I filtered you. Then that thread became instantly better.
>>543239808It's only a preview. You need to login with email
>>543239690You are a dick rider for a dutch faggot that thinks jews are responsible for the hitler and NatSoc, like a fucking retard.
>>543239907you mean it became a echo chamber. stay asleep and keep following the jews.Actually, i think you're a 8200 jew, thats loves people thinking jews rule the world. it get off on a fantasy making people fall for lol, kike.
>>543223604>What is the end goal of freemasonry?
>>543239907you should actually read what i posted, so you actually learn, besides just focusing on jews and only jews, you actually learn how the world operates without jews being the end all be all, instead of thinking like a 2 dimensional dumbass slave.
>>543240104i'm not siding with that fella, but to be fair jews and masons corrupt just as easily (and if you sweeten the deal with some feminism or immigration, you can basically have them do ANYTHING)UK & USA masons held out the most, but if you know the patterns to look for, they are fried too by thiss point
>>543239951They are. Warburg funded Hitler. Oppenheim funded Hitler. Rothschilds funded Hitler by faking their funds being seized. Hitler was a creation of Anton Drexler. Theodor Herzl and Mountain jews planned this decades before.
>>543223604I don't care. I want nothing to do with it and want nothing to do with anyone who does. Call it free free masonry. Call it whatever fuck you.
>>543240104I follow the money and usury.
>>543237160You are a christcuck jew slave, so you are wrong about everything.
>>543232486No, Jews worship Lucifer.
>>543240318“I follow the money and usury” only works if you actually follow all of it.youre fixating on ONE financial strand while ignoring the older English-Dutch-Venetian-Genevan banking nexus, the public-credit and state-finance structures that grew out of it, and the fact that there was an adversarial dynastic side to that system in the Stuarts/Jacobites.thats the part you keep deleting from the map. You see one set of financiers and call them the whole machine, instead of asking who they were financing, which state order they were tied to, who their enemies were, and which rival dynastic networks were being displaced or resisting them.following the money means following the conflict around the money too, not just stopping at whichever lender fits your prior conclusion.
>>543228049You're a mockery to yourself. Only a pathetic loser would treat Jewish comic book fantasies as reality. Go eat a foreskin for Yahweh.When you base your Life on a Jewish Lie, it will take some time until you're completely out of Copes, and then you accept the Reality.
>>543223604From what i can gather theyre supposed to be a guild of stone workers (masons) that discuss masonry work and new methods for working with stone. However they became history revisionists, desperate for more power and wealth. They say theyre powerful and rich, they recruit people that are powerful or rich, and those that are near to power or wealth then ask to join. Somewhere along the line it stopped being about actual masonry and then it became a den of collusion. Then they teach a false history where instead of being formed by the king of scotlands personal assistant, they are actually older than history and were present for every historical event in history. Theyre a cross between a religion and a political ideology.
>>543240490>English-Dutch-Venetian-Genevan banking nexus>Stuarts/Jacobitescrypto jews and shabbos psychopaths.You seem upset. Go sip some Manischewitz, Chaim.
>>543239638There is only one God, the Holy Father, you're worshipping demons.
>>543239751You're not wrong
>>543240867thats not an argument, thats just you relabeling every non-Jewish faction as secretly Jewish the second it becomes inconvenient.English, Dutch, Venetian and Genevan finance all have their own institutional histories, family networks and political interests. Same with the Stuart/Jacobite side. Calling all of them “crypto jews” doesnt prove anything, it just makes your theory immune to evidence.if every banker is secretly Jewish, every rival is secretly Jewish, every ally is a shabbos goy, every loss is strategic and every gain is proof, then youre not following the money anymore.youre just making “Jew” mean whatever part of the network you havent explained yet.and at this point youre starting to look suspicious yourself. every time somebody brings up a non-Jewish power structure you instantly relabel it “crypto-jew,” every contradiction becomes “Jewish manipulation,” and then you accuse anyone who pushes back of secretly being Jewish.thats exactly how a fucking plant or controlled-opposition poster would behave if the goal was to keep everyone permanently trapped inside “JEWS DID EVERYTHING” and stop them from following the actual English-Dutch-Genevan, Hanoverian/Jacobite and wider financial/dynastic conflicts that's the foundation of western history.so maybe turn your own suspicion around for once. Your behavior is doing a remarkably good job of protecting one simplistic narrative from every piece of evidence that complicates it.
>>543240949>There is only one God, the Holy Father,That's just one person of Yahweh dumbass. Learn your own lore.
>>543241053You're riddled with Demons, over complicating things is one of their forte.
>>543223604To do good. To be of service. To help your brothers be better men.
>>543241112No, that's just the lore of your own religion. Or at least its post-council understanding. At least learn what you argue for.
>>543224160bullshitthe FRENCH fought the US revolutionary waryou faggots just claim their victories and tactics as your ownrewriting history is something amerimutts got very good at over the years>holocaust >9/11you wonder why america won't overthrow their leaders?why there will NEVER be an american civil war?because without france holding your hand and fighting YOUR battles for YOU you wont do shitpathetic mutts.
>>543241031>it just makes your theory immune to evidence.Stopped reading here. I accept your concession.
>>543227688>jews nigger, if theres shit in my cake i'm not eating it no matter how much you describe how yummy that cake isTheres fucking shit in itJews do NOT GET A PASSYOU FAGGOT
>>543241031Occam's Razor: They subverted Rome with Christianity. Anything after the Fall of the Roman Empire = jews. See how simple that was?
>>543241361youre acting more suspicious every reply because you keep doing exactly what I said a plant or narrative-enforcer would do.the second somebody points out a contradiction in your framework, you dont engage it, you relabel it. non-Jewish power structure? “crypto jew.” British or Dutch institutional continuity? “useful idiots.” Jewish loss? “strategic.” rival evidence? “red herring.” criticism that your theory is unfalsifiable? “concession,” then you stop reading.thats not just bad argumentation anymore, thats behavior that looks increasingly like youre protecting the frame itself.im not claiming I know who you are, but every time the discussion starts moving toward a broader network map, you drag it straight back into the same single ethnic explanation and refuse to let anything outside it remain independent.you keep proving the exact suspicion you were mocking.
>>543223604Carving stones and building shit made with stones, its one of the old world guilds with highly valuable secret knowledge.Most architects are freemasons, the department of transportation is all freemasons, most american landmarks were built by them, neil armstrong is one and he carved a little all-seeing eye statue out of a moon rock which sits at the white house
>>543227688you're describing the first 22 degrees onlyif people join masons they only ever get 1-8 degreesyou have to be born into the higher levelsthere is no truth in freemasonry other than keep the party going, keep the monopoly the Rothschilds banks ect in powerthat's their only fucking job and you have to get allll the way to the top to find out.There is no great knowledge or truthyour truth at the top is sharing the disapointing truth to the next generation.
>>543227594anything but the jews, ignore the money, families, history, banksclearly not the jews if you ignore all your senses and smash yourself in the head with a hammer
>>543228461you're clearly cherry picking old doccuments to suit your narrativeall of the modern freemasons (the ones in power) are faggots, who, by your own admission don't even acknowledge those old doccumentsso whos the retard?
>>543241850Have you actually ever researched anything but the jews??Be honest.
>>543241951Yes. It's all Jewish.
>>543223604Truth, relief, and brotherly love.We work so that we may better display the beauties of holiness to honor our Divine Creator
>>543241925>>543242010Again, re-posting what i said at the beginning...Freemasony was co-opted by the english/hanover(now windsor) lodges in 1717, which originated in french/scottish/irish stuart/jacobite aligned circles, the fight is still going on, but it isn't really through freemasonry anymore, its a vehicle nobody really drives anymore like they did in the early days. its use splintered in the 90s after hundreds of years of infighting since 1688. Most freemasons don't even know this. its called "Whig history (or Whig historiography)" The traditional narrative of Freemasonry's origins is one of the most prominent, real-world examples of a history deliberately engineered to serve a Whig agenda.The Stuarts through the ancients lodges, which have been contested in an underground conflict between the whigs/hanovers/moderns.The stuarts intermarried through out nearly every major family and nation in europe, but gained dutch, english and swiss enemies due to defaulting on their debts, half of the stuart family has been compromised by being indebted and had to save face and align their branch with the debters.They have been fighting against the hanovers and certain dutch/genevian lenders that displaced them in 1688, the hanovers(now windsors) which displaced them and set up central banks in europe and england since 1694 to fight against the jacobites and stuarts.Freemasonry is just a vehicle for intelligence sharing and gatherings, with some fundamental truths diluted down at this point.Its purpose has always been compromised by its enemies,
>>543223604Live as kings amongst slaves until heat death of the universe
>>543241951listened to all bill coopers stuff and have been lurking here since 2005I have a fairly good understanding of the symbolism and have a very good understanding that 99.999999999% of all masons only exist in the blue lodges - fundamentally meaningless circlejerk society the problem i have with going back to european masonry is, it was as you describe fracturedthe functional society who started america is not fractured and is blatantly allied with israelfrankly i don't need to know much more, nor do i enjoy looking at CSM or reading more accounts of CSMI've heard enough to know that they're rats who ironically hide in the dark.
>>543223604To enlighten about the nature of reality, consciousness, esotericism, gnosticism and hermeticism.
>>543242181so enlightened
>>543241443Angry jew kvetching: the post. Don't smash your keyboard. That anon is 100% right.>>543241435This.
>>543241951Just read Herzl' diary. It's all there.
>>543240065Thos is the real answer
>>543230548I just learned recently that "Hiram" is the Hebrewized version of "Hermes", I thought that was interesting
>>543242149Go back in the sewers, rat.
>>543242010No you haven't. you're a lying cunt.Despite being a british fag, i bet you know nothing of your own history, when or who took over and installed the banl of england.let me guess, you think its jews.let me guess, you think BIS is jewish too.>>543242175israel has always been ocntested as well, makes you wonder why the english have been fighting israel through arab states for the last 75 years, while its taken time for USA support. its because the jews don't rule the world. they are a contested side by certain european roaylity(primarily a struggle between the stuart linages aiding them and vice versa with the late jacobite struggle)
>>543242364You're a jew plant, admit it leaf.
>>543242365Yep. All Jews like you, filthy pilpul rat.
>>543242149your truth is chaffit's unimportant, a civil disagreement or fracturing of lodges doesn't prove or disprove their alliances with israel, alliances with the federal reserve banks, rothschilds banks, alphabet niggers or any of thatit's literally superfluous >Freemasonry is just a vehicle for intelligence sharing and gatheringsfor the low level members yes,i've been to a couple meetings, i have friends who untill recently were active masonsI don't give a fuck what the majority of blue lodge boys think or doit's all milktoast shit>Its purpose has always been compromised by its enemiesYour job as a low rank faggot is to spread good nature and knowledge about your fraternityputting makeup on a pigjust because you can't accept or understand the freemason hierarchy to be evil doesn't matter to me or any other faggot here.>am so virtuous and of the light blah blah blahjust because you're not in the cool kids club doesn't mean they're not real.it is strange how jews and masons use IDENTICAL SYMBOLISMmust be one of those jewish coincidences i've heard abouthmmm
>>543242419That would be you. Clear as day and already called out numerous times in this thread. Keep seething. You're too obvious. Pathetic badjacketing attempt. Show your Israeli flag.
>>543240795Why is a pagan donkey witch talking to me?
>>543242539>>543242521you all think its jews. that's exactly what they want of you. just like with hitler, you are a fucking slave, keep eating the microwave popcorn. >>543242521can't wait for the stuarts to rule over europe and reclaim the glory of their crowns. You are a slave.
>>543242365jews don't rule the world, i agreea couple european and jewish families do.doesn't make 99% of all lies and subversion to be benefiting and protecting israeldoesn't explain why the world ignores every crime israel does (kompromat)they gained their wealth through subterfuge and usury the kompromat they have At this very moment has made them arguably the most powerful country or atleast untouchable country in the world.but w/e go suck a dick or w/e you mason faggots doi bet you think the rothschilds are british or smth
>>543242521yeah, keep ignoring the stuarts struggle against the actual jews, the english-dutch-venice-genavan central bankers. keep focusing on the jews, ignore the orange/hanover family and who their enemies were.(jacobites/stuarts)
>>543242365>muh (((Stuarts)))>muh (((Jacobites)))jews and arabs work hand in hand to destroy the White Man.
>>543242856oh,so the english and their central banks are the good guys now huh?
>>543242855>yeah, keep ignoring the stuarts struggle against the actual jews, the english-dutch-venice-genavan central bankers. keep focusing on the jews, ignore the orange/hanover family and who their enemies were.(jacobites/stuarts)
>>543242855>muh controlled opposition (((struggles)))hahhaha Trump is himself a Stuart (((Stewart)))
>>543242888>"english" (((Central Banks)))bahhahaha brb watching Mary Poppins
>>543242930yeah, and didn't he just blatently call for irish independence, doesn't he have tons of property in scottland??who do you think the deep state is that he's going after??you're getting it now. keep connecting the dots new fag, you'll get their if you keep looking. you'll realize sooner or later.
>>543242989yeah, the english-genvan-dutch central bankers, i compressed the whole down to english like you do with the jews and everyone lol.
>>543242700okay so you think hitler hated jews?then why did he sign the havaara agreementwhy did he shuffle all the jews into camps, as far as he could from the warfront?He created israelwithout hitler and himmler israel would not exist. patheticshow your real flag you fucking pussy
>>543223604Every American in debt to jews.
>>543223604like every other cult. adopt a vague set of "higher" values that you use to control people so they help you take over the world, cull the useless eaters and keep everything for yourselfit is always the same old thing really. some higher power chose them for it, they deserve it, they know better yadda yadda yadda we wuz kings and shieet, we did shieeet
>>543243180No. Hitler was a pawn for the british to punish jews, after they worked with the stuarts and jacobites for centuries, but the nazi plan of consolidating and centalizing europe failed disasterously, ending up with the jewish state either way. You're acting like jews shuffled the whole board around while the actual networks that had power through intelligence agencies were aimless and didn't know how to handle them.
>>543243180literally while hitler is making everyone focus on the jews, red herring shit you guys keep falling for.
>>543223604Faggotry, lots of faggotry and niggers of every corner of the world, lots of niggers.
>>543223841Forth post, correct post
>>543223604To shape society into a meaningful and objectively better form; through the use of our tools. The set square and compass adequately are analogous to the use of human logic, science and rational. If you’re retarded, you won’t understand. But if you’re intelligent, no matter your upbringing, then you’ll instantly recognise what progress is. It’s the betterment of man. And you’re a faggot and nigger, if you believe it to be anything else other than the betterment of your fellow human beings. We are not all made equal. Some are more “equal” than others. Deduce from that what you will.
>>543223604They wish to metamorphose into jews.
>>543224300Who sent him? Lucifer is the light bringer; it’s up to us as individuals to figure it out. Big G and JC guide me, Lucifer tells me that I shouldn’t give into sin. It’s useful, for the right person to know what not to do. Live righteously, and you will find the light. It’s algebra, you nigger.
>>543223604their job is to slather themselves in as many symbols of the old schools their masters want to defame as possible and commit every atrocity under the sun before being exposed in order to justify stamping out any trace of the old knowledge they can find.they are well and truly useful idiots spouting inane bullshite they were purposely trained wrong on the interpretation of while doing their masters dirty work.most modern occultists are such retarded chickenshits they can barely agree on the existence of the fucking level one goblins outside the fucking tutorial dungeon.these idiots tend to deviate the process into retarded philosophies that mostly exist to soothe their wounded egos over failing to pierce the veil properly.there very much is an underlying reality to this and these idiots cope philosophies fall apart on reaching it the kabbalic map only gets to the point boaz and jachin break.that star of davids wrong too and that muslim thing about all starting at the same faith falls apart in practice too try asking a mason about burning out the sign of sloth if they shit themselves hearing it from an outsider you got a real inner door guy
>>543243180He cared about his people, and he knew that others cared about their people too. It would go against his position if he didn’t allow them to do what he was doing, for his own.
It's just another cult like Scientology and should be treated as such. Also full of pedophiles.
>>543243436you're right. it's BIG PUSSY.which one is the renovatio imperii going to genocide, w-men or jews? I'll let you pick.
>>543244811>big pussyarguably a contributing factor
>>543244811Its not even woman half the time that are the problem, its pussy whipped men, whom after distress of their companion back down or bend over to the womans demands or desperate desires.
>>543245077Shit looks evil as fuck
>>543227607Same thing
>>543223604Sell Pancakes>t. Master Mason
>>543244005(half drunk, quitting drugs)dude, ive been down most western philosophical roads and traveled down occult paths, after you finally decide objective truth matters instead of whatever delusion get you high, you inevitably discover Christ (eventaully you realize East Orthodoxy was right over the papacy over the filioque debate )And when you finally take the time to delve into history you realize what an absolute shit show its been for the retards ruling and being ruled (MUTUAL CUM TIME!) it's been, and worse people DON'T care about anything but cum and tingles.Theosis is all that matter, the path towards Godhood by grace by him who is God by nature. Literally everything else is retard olympics either alone or in group.Reject the (GAY) West^TM, embrace Godhood as the natural endpoint of Humanitygay robots cant imitate me
>>543245947>eventaully you realize East Orthodoxy was right over the papacy over the filioque debateis this why every christian orthodox country is an ultra-corrupt shithole that literally worships gypsy thugs?big if true
>>543223604Same as any boomer gay sex club. Fucking little boys in their anus is the end goal.
