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Per the transcript released without the FAA's consent in November 2001:

082444: Atta: Nobody move, everything will be ok. If you try to make any moves, you will injure
yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.
082457: Atta: Nobody move. Everything will be ok. If you try to make any moves you will injure
yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.

And why was the FAA memo that was drafted on September 12, 2001 state that Lewin was shot, that al-Suqami had a gun? That is nowhere in any narrative retelling, but it was confirmed that the FAA wrote that.

Was Atta even there? Was Lewin the hijacker? Was it grounded then swapped with a drone? Was it actually Delta 1989? I need some fucking answers here. I don't think Atta said shit. Who says the same thing, word for word, with the same cadence and tonality, trying to be threatening? 11 was on the ground the whole time. No cgi though, unless someone has convincing sources, i could be wrong, or a nigger.
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>>543242117
so....Atta gets a degree in urban planning and Urban Movers are there to document the event?
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>>543242117
082509: Atta: Soo since we're all about to die really soon I might as well let everybody on board know I'm doing this for Israel and to make everything gay and brown in the future. Kthxbye
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>>543242246
I'm almost certain the Israelis ran the hijacker cells, whoever the fuck they were, arab double agents maybe, and the Israelis were giving them orders and planning the event, I'm not even positive they knew they would die, then either CIA killed them or they're all living peacefully outside Ramat Gan now. KIKES!
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>>543242442
>I'm not even positive they knew they would die
You may recall when the FBI posted their pictures one the men was not even on the plan and had nothing to do with it. A tv news crew found him living and Saudi Arabia with the same name and he said he complained but the FBI would not take his photo and name off the list. The other chumse died one way or another because they could not have that many loose ends too early.
The think tank Project For A New American Century wrote a policy paper that strangely forecasted the need for a catalyzing event, a new Perl Harbor to suppor the global wars. Putin even called Bush to warn him something big was coming but of course did not want to blow their intelligence sources.
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>>543242117
This was funny as fuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mohamed_Atta_to_ATC-2.ogg
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>>543242659
Bingo. I have a hard time believing the family of any true jihadi would say this about Atta, let alone Abdulaziz al-Omari who was working in Saudi Arabia that morning of 9/11.

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2001/09/19/hijacker-my-son-nonsense-dad-says/
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>>543242117
Is there any history for these people? Like has anyone gone back thru to their childhood, young adulthood, found documents, photos, school records? Any biography written about them?

If not, that could be interesting.
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>>543242819
>Abdulaziz al-Omari who was working in Saudi Arabia that morning of 9/11
Is that the guy? Been so long I forget.
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>>543243201
>Is there any history for these people?
That is not the story, read about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

and read their policy paper Rebuilding America's Defenses. You will realize the 'highjackers' were irrelavent as the new Perl Harbor was going to happen anyway. They tried in 1993 and it did not work and with the new crew in office they went big.
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>>543243201
all of my FOIA requests for the families and friends of the hijackers get rejected and asterisked
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>>543243204
He was one of them. I think a few of the others said the same. there is an article about "a tale of 2 ziad jarrah's" alleging the flight 93 identities were also stolen, aka, made the fuck up. I think marwan al-shehi was another, and hani hanjour of 77
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>>543242819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FY6sAoSFOM
This might be the interview but its been so long I cant remember.
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>>543243353
Yea I don't disagree with the premise, my issue is always the same when it comes to 9/11, I know nobody knows for certain most things. because of the way the op was designed, but the technicalities need articulation, like, were there actual hijackers at all, were they israeli controlled, were any of the planes switched, was a drone used, etc. I'm well aware of PNAC, Amalgam Virgo and Vigilant Guardian and Able Danger and all that. But all I have are leads with indefinite conclusions.
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apparently they wanted to detain atta at the airport but were afraid of being perceived as racist
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>>543243754
retrospective slop, so many people came out after the attacks and tried to import themselves onto the significance of the event. So this faggot wanted to stop "atta", which, according to the official story, would have stopped 9/11? like the female pilot who came out with her story of how she "almost" acted heroically to ram flight 93, but she didn't. these stories are intentional fluff
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>>543243699
>were there actual hijackers at all
There were some people going around planning stuff, probably some on the planes. Some or all could be total retards who could never pull it off on their own. Do not forget how many people were calling the FBI and FBI field agents told to stand down. A woman in San Diego litterally called the CIA and said there were terrorists living in her neighborhood, on her street one or two houses over if I remember correctly, and yes she ID's two of the 'highjackers.' The plot was going to go through it at all possible, but the plot is not the real story, its the planners. It was spelled out in the policy paper. Like Putin said he's several US presidents come and go. The come in to office with new ideas then he gets a visit from guys in dark blue suits with breif cases who tell him how the world really works and the presidents gets on board or else. Those people are the real planners, they are the real story. No you are not going to read about them on wikipedia and their names are not available in the secret papers. But, you can see their handywork all around the world. Remember the bank BCCI?
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no, and I don't know what you'd think that. He could barely speak english, had just killed about three people (both pilots and the #1 flight attendant) and was suicidal. Which is why he kept keying the wrong button since he had never actually flown a 767 before and assumed the intercom was the default, or forgot that it's actually a separate button

>And why was the FAA memo that was drafted on September 12, 2001 state that Lewin was shot, that al-Suqami had a gun? That is nowhere in any narrative retelling, but it was confirmed that the FAA wrote that.

Because the FAA didn't have their shit together and was told that by someone else who was probably relaying information from somebody else who had heard it from AA or UAL, who were not talking to the FAA directly. This is how American 77 was able to pull a U-turn without the military noticing until AA77 entered IAD Primary who then spotted him visually, and used a special hardline within IAD to inform the White House. Because Bush was still in Florida in his limo, getting that message to him still took about 10 minutes and then a corrective order from him took another 5 min to deliver to the Pentagon, who delivered it to the appropriate command post, who then told the NY Guard fighters to turn around. About ~1 minute from that, AA77 entered DCA Primary although they could not get a visual, and about a minute later the plane struck the Pentagon.
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>>543242117
Playing devils advocate, someone who memorized a phrase(whether ESL or not) may well repeat it upon suspecting they did not succeed in transmitting their message to the cabin. They probably broadcast straight to COM1/COM2 the first time rather than interior PA.
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>>543245406
It's the same story with United 93 but the terrorists also forgot to disable their Mode 3 transponder - so, when the Airphone 911 and UAL Dispatch calls were made, Westmoreland County Sherriff and United Airlines were able to immediately contact the FBI, who now had a direct communication line to the President, who ordered the strike on United 93. The official Intercept was then set up within the NY Guard and Indianapolis FAA Center, with the final showdown about ~20 min northwest of DC. Instead, passengers stormed the cockpit and the hijackers ditched the aircraft into the ground at 400 mph. Besides United 93's FDR and the plane itself, multiple body parts, IDs, and the cell phones were recovered.
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>>543242442
>>543242819
>>543243389
>>543243389
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>>543243699
>>543243895
take your meds schizo
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>>543243389
I know two of the victims. United Airlines Mainliner Club Facebook is all I'll say.
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>>543245406
Why do I think that? Because the audio is repeated twice, verbatim, less than a second apart from one another? And for someone who speaks zero english, he seemed to understand the phraseology pretty well. I could not imagine an actual third worlder just saying that knowing no other english. He forgot it was a separate button? So Jarrah made that same mistake too?

And yeah you're right, the FAA did not have their shit together; they were repeating the same wrong info from Boston flight center, who was repeating to the other ATC what the FBI was telling them over the other line ~ read the transcripts again
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>>543245442
Explain the same for flight 93 then? Because that justification is never given for 93's transmissions about the bombs on board.
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>>543245555
you would say that, considering you have nothing to contribute to this
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>>543246566
>Because the audio is repeated twice, verbatim, less than a second apart from one another
yes if you were sitting in a 767 cockpit flying at 400 mph, after murdering three people, and getting ready to fly yourself into the tallest building in america you would probably stutter too

this is a normal human psychological response to stress
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>>543246566
>>543246772
>He forgot it was a separate button? So Jarrah made that same mistake too?
Go read the 9/11 commission report which includes information about the flight training school they went to and the aircraft they had already flown here in the US. All their flight hours, except for the hijackings themselves, were logged appropriately with the FAA. The FAA actually knew (as much as a government agency can "know") who about five of the hijackers were as they all had FAA approval to fly small aircraft as trainees. The report also includes how the FAA completely lost control as flight controllers did not have a command chain to talk up to, which is how 5 different military offices knew about the planes individually but not the complete picture until the IAD approach visual.

This relates to the recent saudi video the FBI released that more or less implicates saudi arabia directly and trump is covering for them as the jewish bitch he is.
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>>543246772
Are you willfully being ignorant, or you actually just Eglin? Read the transcipt, and pair it with the audio from the US v Moussaoui trial - it's not a stutter, its not a nervous little guy with broken english, its a clear transmission that was purposefully keyed into them mic so boston could hear it. Otherwise, what other confirmation stood before 8:46 AM that AA11 was hijacked? Nothing, that confirmation comes from Attas apparent mistake
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>>543246895
Even if they mastered small aircraft, them controlling 11 and 93 respectively don't hold up to those completed programs. And if they used a Boeing simulator, we're led to believe they were ignorant of radio controls?
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>>543247199
go sit down in a 767 cockpit right now and figure it out. You're probably not going to get the intercom right on the first try. There's no youtube or AI to ask questions then just manuals and written info only. All they really needed to figure out is how to set up the flight guidance computer to vector them into WTC, the Pentagon and US Capitol all of which have publicly known lat/long coordinates. None of the 9/11 hijackers managed to disable the plane's paid airphone system, the flight attendant airphone, or the 1G cell transmitter despite all of those being connected through a single fuse (switch on flight engineer panel behind copilot).

They knew about enough to control it into the target, which is about right since none of them had any formal flight experience prior to Bin Laden paying for their training flights. All they needed to know was to how to not stall the plane, how to navigate, and how to pull off a 180 degree turn. Even though the final 9/11 flight nav was all visual using the Hudson river, for the flights to even get to that point the hijackers had to figure out the compass on the nav screen in front of them. This is where all the time and effort went because once they got on the right heading there was basically nothing anyone could do to stop them.

Similarly, 93 was still sending technical telemetry and UAL Dispatch notices all the way to the end. American Airlines witnessed WTC 2's hit but didn't realize it until minutes later, whereas United monitored 93's nosedive until the plane was destroyed. This is in the FBI Depositions from the UAL employees and dispatchers witnessing it, which you've probably read already since you said you did some FOIA requests. I think the AAL Dispatch stuff is actually in the Commission Report since it actually has Betty Ong (flight attendant) in it. The latter is also on Youtube still.



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