Is the US really an empire in decline?
>>543246467is empire measured by warfare?
My advice: fuck around with them and find out.
>>543246467We can't do this now because of EHS.
>>543246467Obviously.>>543246669Some mountain goat fuckers in Afghanistan did just that and they're back in charge.
>>543246467>debt surpassed GDP>degeneracy has surpassed Wiemar levels >half the population can't read past a 6th grade level or count changeDeclining rapidly
>>543246616Not an expert, but I'd probably say it's a mixture of production and it's economy. I chose the pic primarily because I doubt the US could produce this many ships in such a short amount of time like it used to be able to during WW2.
>>543246467Yes. Very much so.
>>543246616It's measured by might.
>>543246467yes /thread
>>543246733Biden's fault. Democrats are weak.
>>543246616>is an empire measured by it's unanimous existential persistence?yesthat is what an empire is or else it is not.>>543246467correct, the fact we will never win another war is why we are already in the end.
>>543246815Democrats are communists who want the death of the US.
>>543246616Its measured directly in terms of foreskins exfiltrated from the penises of gentile children
>>543246845Democrats are neolibs who want capitalists to kill the US
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>>543246467the US isnt an empire to begin with. nation states today arent the same as the days of ancient rome or even european colonists. only backward retards like China still think like that
>>543246845Republicans are no different. They just dress up their socialist bullshit.
>>543246845It's already over, we're merely witnessing the purification of the corpse.
>>543246467Nope, golden age
>>543246467The Liberty class cargo ships is probably the biggest flex in human history. 3 ships launching every 48 hours for like 5 years.
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>>543246845I know. They want the whole world to be under globalist/communist rulebook. They want to erase individualism completely. They want to erase growth and strong men.
>>543247151To be clear, I dislike the democrats more than I do republicans. I just think it's disingenuous to say that it's only the dems who are responsible for everything wrong with the country.
>>543247274You can't make everyone happy.
>>543246467Yes because power can no longer be projected with naval might.
>>543246669A picture of Bethlehem Steel today is worth 1000 words.
>>543246467Yes. The us can't win shit and have to resort to boastful lies to convince the maga base they are achieving anything at all. But the rest of the world can see it
>>543246467>Is the US really an empire in decline?lost everything since 1945now comes the end crash
>>543246735you forgot to add>1/5th of the population can't read at all (71% literacy rate overall for adults)>boomers still aliveShit's worse than you think
>>543247088>3 ships launching every 48 hours for like 5 years.80 years ago
>>543247697Counter point:>Greenland>Venezuela
>>543246669>find out.iran doing just fine, crushing all our balls thanks to the jewsa
>>543247782>Meanwhile in Italy 80 years ago
>>543247792lmao
>>543246669The Houthis and Iranians are fucking around with them and fucking MOGGING the fat yanknigger kikes.
>>543247792>>Greenlandstill Danish>>543247792>>Venezuelaall you did was change the most corrupt whore for the second most corrupt whoreYAS QUEEN WE IS BRINGING DEMOCRACY, SELF GOVERNMENT, AND FOOD FOR THE PEOPLE
>>543247151White people should get off of the GOP plantation.
>>543247870This leaf is correct It's been revealed our war fighting capabilities to be totally lacking against modern drone and asymmetric warfareThis will be my generations Vietnam And it's literally all to cover up the Epstein files and and serve the greater Israel project We're fucked and these boomer and Gen x politicians will die before they have to pay any consequences for it
>>543247829he made bad decisions and got what he deservedyou should done the same to biden, obongo nigger and bush for that matter
>>543248045mussolini was a nigger. he put my bisnonni in camps
>>543246760Shipbuilding family anon here. Grandfather and his wife/my GM both worked in shipbuilding; his dad a marine engineer.> producing this many ships in such a short amount of timeisn't the big deal you seem to think. A lot of them were produced with the intention of sending them out to get sunk.I'd like to write more but I'm blasted from a ton of landwork trying to get in under the wire before rain then getting soaked as it arrived.Take a look here.https://shipbuildinghistory.com/Especially the "emergency shipyards," all of which are now inactive.If there were another "emergency" requiring the absolute stupid waste and profiteering of the steel, oil, munitions, and banking industries, it could be done again. Hopefully nobody will be that stupid and yards will be turned to the projects of getting restored for 21st century needs, both in trade, strategic effort, and force projection. Remember, the biggest weapons now are not kinetic. Just blowing shit up is a City of London thing and God willing DJT's team is shifting the entire planet away from that bullshit. And there's a whole lot more humans need to be doing. Force projection can be accomplished more surgically now.
>>543248188>he put my bisnonni in campsyou fucking jew
>>543246845>>543246909>>543247173raped satanic mind slaves
>>543246467DAS ROITE MIGGA WE BACK BABY AMERICA ON TOP DAS ROITE MOFUCKA
>>543246845>>543246909>>543247173Jews have a master plan? Are you Retarded Anons? >>543252986Probably just aShitskin and a churka rape baby Many such cases
>>543246669We don't want to fight for America until Germans are in charge of the country.
>>543246467things are always changing and if the result of the change this minute seems inferior to the one before you may call it a decline although this is too restricted and linear to do justice to what is essentially the phenomenon of competing energy and entropy. how do you measure decline or growth or stasis...all subjective, and likely intentionally so, for we only deal in demoralization and agitprop here.
>>543253384Union Army jackets
>>543246733>they're back in chargeno, the og's all died during our stay, these are newfags with the taliban name, nephews and grandsons and such...the taliban who dared died as a result fren. cope.
>>543253384General Sherman's finest
>>543246467They voted in a wall kissing pedophile who is raping their country in order to make himself rich, and 30% of the amerigoy think it's a good ideaThe US isnt an empire in decline, they're a host being strangled to death by a parasite they're too infected by to fight against>>543246815Trump signed the retreat champ
>>543247151We know what your war is about now kike
>>543253547So you leaving billions of dollars of equipment behind and surrendering the country doesn't count I guess okay thanks buddyLet me guess we won Vietnam too
>>543246467It's not an empire, but it is in decline. How temporary that decline is, we'll see.
>>543246467Do you remember we kept getting spammed with that empires last 250 years thing? But America was fine at that time. It's like someone is trying to force prove the theory still stands.
>>543253538>>543253565I feel Safer Already Anon
Unfortunately not. I doubt I'll see it fall in my lifetime.
>>543254139>empires last 250 years thingthats actually pretty retarded and a pseud take on history. most empires were around for twice that length, if not thousands of years. myceanean greece just by itself was around for 800.
>>543254215WE JUST COLLAPSED IN AFGHANISTAN YOU ONLY HAVE 22 SHIPS LEFT THE WEST IS COLLAPSING YOU STUPID PAKI XD
>>543254121>> Temporary ARE THE MUHAMMADS IN YOUR NATION TEMPORARY. YEAH. BULLSHIT
J S A J S A J S A Operation Epstein Fury
>>543246733>AfghanistanThe purpose wasn't winning. So all fine.
>>543253837What is it about? I can't tell from your random schizo picture.
>>543247426In 50 years most of the USA will look like this with malnourished, mixed pajeet/nigger tribes wandering around the ruins, doing cargo cult like rituals in the hope that white people come back with food, clothing and medicines again.
>>543254240>YOU ONLY HAVE 22 SHIPS LEFTbut 44 admirals
>>543246467You pay taxes to IsraelYour Media works for IsraelYour Senate works for IsraelYour Military works for IsraelYour Congress works for IsraelYour President works for IsraelYour Corporations work for IsraelYour Educational System works for Israelso no, the ̶U̶S̶A̶ Israeli Empire is not in decline
>>543246467>Is the US really an empireThey lost every war since 'nam; they can't even bluff with bombing into the stone age. Their financial hegemon is ded in the water. They have abandoned soft powered rainbow penanantry. Their coca-cola is filled with non nutritive sweeteners. What do they have left? Seinfeld reruns and cape shit reboots?
>>543246735Please correctly state it. It's (((debt))). Money we owe ourselves for using our money.
>>543254665>In 50 yearsTimelines is hard. A black president is a good zeroing point. Zimbabwe was pretty fucked after one generation but undeniably so after two. Same with South Africa
>>543246467Yea, but also the ships and aircraft and such were smaller and much less sophisticated back then.
>>543246467it was never an empire.the decline is pretty obvious for 99% of people
>>543246669> fuck around with them and find out.funny how that played out in hindsight
>>543254043thats right it doesnt count as it was for the ANA who changed their name to taliban after we left and yes faggot seething slavmutant whore we left vietniggernam with a peace agreement in hand, and the viets did shit after we left. cope faggot.
>>543255812Actually, ships back then would've been bigger and more cumbersome to build. The advances of metallurgy allows for better metal that's also lighter and the era of "gigantic warships" has been over for a long, long time.The USA already has the gigantic carries and what it needs is actually smaller ships.
>>543255865>it was never an empire.Not true. Post-WW2 United States was literally invincible.
>>54324646740 trillion in debt and the Israelis likely have their ruling class's balls in a vice through bribery and blackmail. I mean the Americans are doing better than most at the moment but they are also on the route to ruin.
>>543256144that's not what empire means.and that "invincibility" lasted exactly 4 years> The Soviet Union detonated its first nuclear bomb, code-named First Lightning (RDS-1), on August 29, 1949
>>543253707YesThey voted voted for this
>>543256209The ethnostates will be okay, they have something to fall back on. The tricolor flags have reached the conclusion of their contradictory egalitarian doctrine
>>543256304I think it's silly to think that an empire is just whoever physically controls the most land. The United States at it's peak was the single most influential nation culturally, politically, economically, and militarily.
>>543256571that doesn't make it an empire. stop larping as one.> The United States at it's peakso we can agree that that "peak" in not now? which means one thing - decline.
>>543256663>that "peak"Dude, they were sipping Tang and golfing on the moon; twas '69 and the summer of love. Empire, perhaps not, they were above it all
>>543247917I love this draw
>>543246735This seems to be the case.Hopefully it still may be reverted.
>>543246467the cultural decay is in full force with state mandated trannies and all that shit
>>543256663>that doesn't make it an empireYes it does. Look at picrel for proof. >so we can agree that that "peak" in not now?Yes, but that was never my point. You said the US was "never an empire" and I think it was for a time.
>>543246616measured by debt
>>543246467They've been in decline since they've stopped being an Anglo-German majority country that puts the well being of Aryans above the well being of Jews. So yes, they've been in decline since the first half of the twentieth century
>>543246467Used to be until Trump arrived.
>>543257035 - no supreme leader - no single central power or government (every west european country had its own) - no diverse cultures (all Europe descendant) - no diverse ethnicity at the time (white ex-european majority)> b-but it was empire anyway! so, you are literally proving me right. it's pretty obvious that USA was NOT an empire at any point of its short history. not to mention that its influence was always contested, ever since WW2 (before WW2 USA was nobody, Europe, Japan, China and Russia had to implode in 2 world wars so that USA could become a global power, rivaled by USSR).
>>543257686I believe you're trolling because nobody could seriously be this retarded.
>>543254665Jeets in the usa are nothing alike to blacks. Jeets are some of the more civil races in the US. They are primarily franchise owners of gas stations and restaurants, or white collar programming/business people. They are most similar to east asians in the role they occupy in the usa. Additionally, they are a fairly small minority here.The race more comparable to blacks would be latinos. Latinos are very prone to forming gangs and are significantly more violent than whites statistically. They also almost exclusively target lower class jobs like construction and restaurant workers.Jeets are not good at gang warfare for the same reason they are not good at doing pushups, their bodies are evolved to be servantile.
>>543257872I see that you ran out of arguments rather quickly. Have a nice day.
>>543257686what do you think the Vietnam war was? Bringing democracy? Flush out your head new guy.
>>543258049> what do you think the Vietnam war was?a humiliation? the "invincible" US army defeated by rice farmers, kek.
>>543257686You are right but during the latter 1800s it was poised to take over the British Empire because America was, initially, 99% anglo and by 1900 its elites were anglophile. However the anglo elites were driven out of power during the 20s and 30s. That is also when a jew coined the term WASP (white anglo saxon protestant) to refer to anglo americans. The irish had been taking over the cities since the 1840s, the italians and jews since the 70s, and starting in the 1920s blacks from the south flooded northern cities.
Its crazy tha5 the USA used to be china as far as manufacturing power and it was all given away just to keep chink labor away from the ussr
>>543258177>he thinks USA lost the Vietnam warkek
>>543258251Which is ironic considering ussr was only a power because the usa gave them manufacturing capability
>>543258177>rice farmersVietnam defeated China, France and the USA in quick succession. By the time the USA fought them, the Vietnamese were already a bunch of battle-hardened soldiers with intricate tunnels and guerrilla warfare techniques.Then, after defeating the USA, they went on to fight the Khmer Rouge and won. Their numbers were very low, they were under a shit ton of economic sanctions (the USA sided with the Khmer Rouge lmao) and there was fear that the war against Cambodia could actually trigger a bigger regional war involving China and/or the Soviet Union.Not only did Vietnam win that war, they distributed food to the Cambodians, reinstated the previous institutions and gave them back (most of) their territory.To call the Vietnamese "rice farmers" is a huge insult to some of the best warriors of the 20th century.
>>543258371>what is domino theory?Vietnam war had nothing to do with Vietnam lmao
>>543258228Prohibition was the masterstroke; using the moral authority of White women to hand control over to the mob
>>543246760There’s plenty of white welders but you couldn’t hire them without the browns so no it couldn’t be done like this again. I suppose maybe with robots.
>>543258460What's your angle here? Did the Vietnamese not fight in that war?
>>543257967>Jeets in the usa are nothing alike to blacks.They are similar in IQ and both are scavengers, unable to build anything. They'll band together.
>>543246669Vietnam, afganistan, iraq, iran...
>>543258504Is Japan communist? Is Taiwan communist? Is Philippines communist? You know the actual prosperous American colonies? No, because retarded communists used all their resources and unity fighting over worthless Vietnam, exactly like the American strategists wanted.
>>543258593>Is Japan communist?National Socialist. According to Princes of the Yen it was central bank sponsored industry. Guess it's kinda a soft regicide ethno-republic. Korea is some kinda weird cryptarchy matriarchy. Langley's reimaginings
>>543253547you dumb zogslaves were literally paying the taliban to allow you to resupply. half the government you were defending against the taliban was already taliban.every province outside the capital was taliban the entire time,
>>543258593No, but China is.And before China the American industrialists were thinking about sending their manufacturing to Cambodia and Vietnam anyway, so what's your point?
>>543246467Yes>>543246616Empire is by definition Imperium. Imperium is the command over an army by a general.
>>543255965what retarded cope i bet you even served your zog masters by going there, probably wounded and yet you are the dumbest mutt who has no idea about that country at all
>>543247829>Mussolini: private citizen who was running for elections as a syndicalist>communists: randomly murder private citizen and his girlfriend because he's notarealsocialist™
>>543259068>Vietnam, China and Cambodia are also now a part of the American Empirewhat's your point?
>>543259229> Vietnam, China and Cambodia are also now a part of the American Empirethe AI is hallucinating, needs script reset
>>543260378wtf are you talking about? China has been living of Deng 'reforms' for the last 3 decades. Any short term prosperity they have is because they pimped their workers out to American capitalists.
>>543246733I've seen Afghanistan videos and it looks like a chill place. I'd rather go there than Atlanta or LA
>>543246815Democrats support white genocide.Republicans hold the door open for them
>>543247353Republicans make me unhappy because they refuse to defend White interests
