This ideology is an agrarian-communal society with modern elements. People live together in strong communities centered around agriculture, shared resources, and mutual support. Everyone has a main job, mainly farming, but can change careers. Food comes from communal agriculture, canteens, or personal gardens, while housing and basic needs are guaranteed so nobody lives in poverty.The culture emphasizes community, sports, youth and fun camps, shared traditions, and its own internet culture. The diet is simple, with meat and potatoes as common staples.
>>543261667>so nobody lives in poverty. Poverty is to be expected in agrarian-communal life. To expect anything else is delusional.
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>>543261790Wrooong, you bourgeios
>>543261790Agrarian industrial communal state ;)
>>543261840You're not going to get rich living off the land without industrialisation. Once you start industrialisation then you're just going back to modernity.
>>543261989Nice try
>>543261989Read my fucking text
>>543261667>Agrarian>no povertySo we are defining poverty as not having access to one or more of food, water, and shelter? How do we punish/exclude/reeducate those who can no longer/will not contribute their labor to the commune? Since women will be a part of the commune, how do we deal with the inevitable moral and societal crimes that will arise such as infidelity and adultery? Will we be attempting the futile endeavor of eliminating hierarchy, or will there be some form of authoritarian or democratic system to establish hierarchy beyond just "muh human nature will sort it out"? When genetic defects arise in the population, do we retain those abnormalities or go about solving it with something like exile or late-term abortion?How do we plan to address the natural regression of these sorts of communities into a sex cult?I have many questions.
>>543262016There's nothing wrong with trying to live agrarianism but don't be expecting it to be a utopia. The struggles can be rewarding but at the same time detrimental if you're not prepared.
>>543262109>Since women will be a part of the commune, how do we deal with the inevitable moral and societal crimes that will arise such as infidelity and adultery? Generally just be a family or tribal problem. They'll have to deal with it themselves.>Will we be attempting the futile endeavor of eliminating hierarchy, or will there be some form of authoritarian or democratic system to establish hierarchy beyond just "muh human nature will sort it out"? There will be strict hierarchy but the difference is those on top would have to earn it unlike the modern world where it's based on capital. >How do we plan to address the natural regression of these sorts of communities into a sex cult? Where did this ever happen?
>>543262153Wee need to controll the people
>>543262109BRO JUST JOIN THE REVOLUTION
>>543261667All my niggers agrarian industrial communalists yeeeah
>>543262282>Where did this ever happen?The Oneida Community (1848–1881)The Agapemonites (1846–1930s)The House of David (1903–1940s)The Sullivan Institute (1957–1990s)The Children of God / The Family International (1968–Present)Friedrichshof / The Otto Mühl Commune (1970s–1990s) Rajneeshpuram (1981–1985)The Manson Family / Spahn Ranch Commune (1967–1969)The Branch Davidians (1955–1993)The Love Family (1968–1984)The Fountain of the World (1949–1958)The Lyman Family / Fort Hill Community (1966–Present)Zendik Farm (1969–2006)>They'll have to deal with it themselves.So I can, if we reach consensus, execute close and extended family? Based. Will devolve quickly.>merit-based systemWill there be written law and doctrine? Who decides these laws and doctrines? Will there be a system to challenge these things if bias and nepotism occur as they tend to?
>>543262607Did AI tell you all that?Every community will have their own rules and laws. You can't predict it's future. But in the past before industrialisation it was generally the most smartest and the most alpha. Weakness wasn't a virtue. As the society expands it will become more diplomatic and that's when the system starts to change.
>>543261667add a local milita or defense force + someone organises all the decentralised forces to ensure they answer to the cause , you would litteraly have millions of ready soldiers effortlessly and wont need foreign food imports or anything
>>543262797You faggot, the entire premise of this thread was that we were going to do this communally, not create communal exclusion zones that we operate independently. Fuck. >Did AI tell you all that?Oh, you're one of those. Heard enough from you, nigger. If we can't have a genuine conversation about the pitfalls of these sorts of these things, or even keep up with the original context without shifting the goalposts, I aint interested.
>>543262397These are important questions that need firm answers and even firmer action to back those answers up, otherwise you'll quickly have your commune hijacked and perverted.
>>543261667yeah, but those good and helpful tech will fade away eventually like old newspapers decaying in time, it will get harder and hard and slowly you will become a Aboriginal
>>543263126those are already answered cause humans lived in similiar thing ,called tribalism , instead of full on tribalism however , this would be more like a syndicalist decentralised communes , communes act more like mini-tribes however they are not fully independent as they the syndicates (wich controll the factories )organised by the government to ensure no commune gets uppity and the militia stays cohesive
>>543263499So, essentially we want to roll the clock back and repeat several steps that led to where we are now, but the only thing we are going to do different is have knowledge of where these systems lead if we repeat the same mistakes? I mean, does this mentality work for retards like socialists/communists/etc.? What separates this from retards like that who think idealism won't inevitably be hijacked by bad actors? This is why details are needed, otherwise it is to be safely assumed you are one of the bad actors. History tells us this is so.
>>543263869the difference is in this model there is no capital you litteraly have thousands of mini-states with a shared militia for national defense , no actor will hijack this cuz everyone will be interconnected just like the EU , imagine if a commune rebels , that commune will be cut from the syndicates and "the state" , they will live like cavemen
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>>543264157>be you>have commune>other-commune tard comes in and starts a fire in your farmland cuz mommy and daddy didn't want to let him smoke in the yurt on their land>fire spreads to three neighboring communes and a competing corpo-governmental opposition region>two communes accept aid from corpo-government forces>tard commune who set your shit on fire burns down completely, ending refugees into your compound>surrounding communes watch how you handle this debacle, losing collective trust in your community abilities or otherwise being wary of interacting with you>corpo-government opposition intruders now balls deep in your community poisoning the collective well, as they also do this in surrounding communities>making deals with the corpo-government now puts their capital as your form of barter because your shit burned>you now work for the corpo-government or a bigger collective as a vassal state>you are eventually absorbed back into someone else's system because it is more efficient and can better promote general welfare>you now repeat the cycle Yeah, I forgot where I was for a second. I was expecting some actual concrete doctrines and practices to have been prepared for this hypothetical. We need to move forward, not backward.
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