Is he right, /pol/?
>>543278296He wasn't been right about anything.
No, not deporting niggers after the Civil War as planned was. (((Mearsheimer))) is a clown and says all kinds of retarded zigger shit too.
>>543278296It's certainly high on the list....
>>543278383Paddy, you're drunk!
>>543278296>"The Iran War is the biggest strategic blunder in US history"probably, Trump's election the biggest counterintelligence victory for Russia in the entire history of counterintelligencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWFBN8BuFfY
>>543278296>in US historyunlikely, therefore dishonest, therefore irrelevant
>>543278296No. The formation of Israel was our greatest strategic blunder. The Iran war is just collateral damage.
>>543278296you think jews care to sacrifice goyusa? once they are done with usa they'll happily switch to new body to parasite of
>>543278296"Strategic blunder" is an odd way of saying: "The Iran war is due to Israel performing a bloodless coup over Washington D.C. by bribing and blackmailing our treasonous politicians."
Yes. It destroyed the image of US invincibility. It will result in the US being kicked out of the middle east meaning the US is no longer the world's hegemonic power. And vast quantities of expensive munitions were wasted scratching granite mountains, at great cost to the US taxpayers (who are already struggling). It prevents the US from pivoting to Asia as well. And then there's the economic side of things. And how this will result in a return of batshit insane Democrats whose sole purpose is to destroy the US internally and turn it into a third world shit hole.
>>543278495>our
>>543278296 it's all about the "he says she says" bullshit
>>543278461He thought putin was to smart to invade Ukraine. I rest my case.
>>543278448Name one more consequential US fuckup.
It is a Jewish humiliation ritual, not a blunder. There is nothing accidental about the war.
>>543278763> It destroyed the image of US invincibility. It will result in the US being kicked out of the middle east meaning the US is no longer the world's hegemonic power. And vast quantities of expensive munitions were wasted scratching granite mountains, at great cost to the US taxpayers (who are already struggling). It prevents the US from pivoting to Asia as well. And then there's the economic side of things. And how this will result in a return of batshit insaneThat was already the real world case before the war anon. The purpose of the war is to make it undeniable in a real world sense. You make that statement as if things weren’t catastrophically bad before the war. The war is just the excuse to crash things, because it had to happen and there’s no other way outHave you seen the debt and bond markets bro?
>>543278909We are under occupation by Israel. We don't get to choose what happens in our country.
>>543278296I normally agree with him but I’ll say his opinions are becoming increasingly affected by his personal distaste of Trump. By his own thinking, this war is necessary for power projection, and especially as someone so gung-ho about being anti Israel it’s disappointing to see him not pointing out that they dragged us into a conflict again. Really very tired of hearing the line “Trump started this war”, he really didn’t. The war had been going on since Biden was in office. The Trump administration even put somewhat unprecedented Public pressure on Israel to make them *not* launch the attack that took it to this level, but at a certain point, we had to act to protect the rest of our gulf allies from the repercussions of Israel’s actions. If you are going to argue that Russia had legitimate reasons to invade Ukraine as he does, then you should be able to put down the political lens and see that the real failure was in not curtailing Israel. But he’s getting pretty old now, and he’s been on a media tour for a few years. I think it’s getting to him. A shame.
>>543278444 Look at the MIGA slave shilling for Zelensky's goons because daddy CIA told him to.You pathetic kikeslave.
>>543278908Russia is winning their war in Ukraine though, and they’re defeating an opponent armed, funded and provided with intel by the entirety of NATO. It’s pretty impressive actually
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>>543278466You don’t know what counter intelligence means, do you? It just sounds cool so you say it.
>>543279173>Russia is winning their war in Ukraine thoughLmfao sure buddy. Any day now
>>543278603Uh, bro. He wrote a book on the subject.
>>543278296Strategy?
>>543278444Mass sterilization would've been an acceptable alternative.
>>543279273>t. NAFO tranny You guys have been wrong for 4+ years now, every single day
>>543278296I think neutering your own countrys kids would be bigger loss
>>543279400>You guys have been wrong for 4+ years now, every single dayThen why do keep getting paid?
>>543278444Witnessed >>543279166Checked, trip s beats d u b s you lose.
>>543278444> says all kinds of retarded zigger shit too.>I need globohomo jew tranny censorship There are countless worthless globohomo jew talking heads you can listen to then. This guy has been mostly on point for years on end, that’s why we pay attention to him. It makes Globohomo jew trannies kvetch though
>>543278444Literally just downloaded this from the other thread and I get to use it already
calling it strategic anything is an insult to every general who ever lived
>>543278296This guy is constantly wrong on everything, so I don't think he has any credibility left. That being said, it's possible that what he's saying this time is true, it's just not credible.
Its still playing out but yes i think it is. Giving up control of the Persian gulf, in the age of oil, for a war of choice: bonkers. American power has been massively reduced in the last 6 months and not because of China or Russia. America lost this power to the swarthy hands of a 2nd rate power in Iran.
Obviously the Civil War was a far far bigger disaster although hard to say what the "US" was there.But I would say this is worse than either Vietnam or Iraq/Afghanistan since the second the US got out of those conflicts the bleeding stopped, it was better off for having gotten out.In this case the US withdrawing means the definitive end to the 'petrodollar' system in particular but the idea of US global hegemony generally. The US becomes just another country without any special privilege, especially re: ability to raise and hold debt at favourably low rates. The US basically just becomes a bigger France with even worse politics.
>>543278296Its not a strategic blunder - its being operating under complete control of a foreign alien power with billionaire domestic oligarch tentacles. Of course he knows this because he wrote the "israel lobby" bookBut like most people hes too afraid or to smart to call out jews directly
>>543279763American generals are expected to achieve strategic banking and stock market moving victories, not battlefield victories. The purpose of the battle going on is just to vent off excess goyim. That’s why generals who were involved with the 20 year loss in Afghanistan got promoted. They answer to banker globohomo jews. As long as those guys are getting paid and winning, it doesn’t matter how long it takes or how many goyim are wasted on the losing effort.
>>543278296>biggest strategic blunder in American historyIt's up there. Advancing up to the Chinese border during the Korean War is probably more retarded.
>>543280006Kek, thats what gets me with these academics. They tiptoe around the problem because they know theyre out if they say that truth. Jews own and run the American empire and Bibi is the defacto US president.
>>543279958...tl;dr: in every other international fuckup the US's economic position was strengthened by just walking away, and it's the US economy that provides its power not the genius of its leadership. This is the first case where a foreign misadventure could actually seriously undermine the US economy in multiple ways, and perhaps that could be salvaged by fighting more (but more likely the hole is just being dug deeper)
>>543278296I mean currently not as bad as Afghanistan but if this keeps up it'll be
>bomb iran for a month>blockade for a few monthsthe hyperbole about this from """content creators""" is so absurd
>>543280293yeah seriously wtf is this thread, a bunch of thirdies and euros (redundant) pretending the situation is way worse than it actually is
>>543280428No no you see it is the BIGGEST thing to ever happen because it is the CURRENT thing. It's not even worse than the Afghan withdraw ffs
>>543278296>"The Iran War is the biggest strategic blunder in US history"No the greatest strategic blunder in US history was the lend lease program which gave Stalin, the money, materials, weapons, and training to turn the Soviet Union into a military super power that would conquer all of Eastern Europe and go on to threaten the United States for the next 40 years.The Iran war is maybe the dumbest strategic blunder in US history simply because its so unnecessary and so obviously in the interests of Israel and not the United States; but we've definitely had bigger fuck ups. Lend Lease, the draft in Vietnam, WWI, 20 years of pointless war in Iraq and Afghanistan......
>>543279273t. delusionalRussia has 4x the population and can almost endless send mongol farmersUkraine has to bus middle aged menIt's basic math
>>543279273ukr is winning easily
>>543280293>it'll be over in 4-6 weeks, and that's a migger guarantee!>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE ANNOYED IT'S GOING ON FOR FUCKING EVER!?
he's a vatnik propagandist
>>543280707oh look it's a leaf seething, how original.
>>543278296That's a very antisemitic thing to say.
>>543280667>It's basic mathIf this were true Russia would have conquered Ukraine by now.
>>543280549>It's not even worse than the Afghan withdraw ffsThat lasted a week.
>>543280040you says this cuz u know result of that move. but if you think from usa had full air dominance over korea. why not take everything from commies? china is no worry cuz they were wartorn poor country.
>>543280721>reality has a Russian bias
>>543280884he unironically said that puccia invading hoholistan is not imperialism. even though pidor the great wrote a text about it. he appears only on vatnik propaganda channels. he is invited in puccia to speak with lavrov.give me a break. blatant propaganda.
>>543278444>No, not deporting niggers after the Civil War as planned was. This may be true, but>(((Mearsheimer)))He is not Jewish and has exposed the Israeli lobby for decades.>zigger NAFOtard false flagger detected
>>543280841>china is no worry cuz they were wartorn poor country.They had like a hundred million battle hardened veterans. You'd have to be a retard to not take that seriously. The norks were already practically scattered to the wind. Just let the south mop them up without doing a full on advance on the Chinese border.Dumb move in hindsight and foresight.
>>543278296The Israeli alliance in general is the biggest blunder in history.
Jews, americans, what really is the difference if any?
>>543278296The globe is right were the evils that be that puppeteer virtually leaders want it to be. This is strategic genius in their plan to destroy the current system as we enter the final age.
>>543278908>He thought putin was to smart to invade Ukraine.He had no choice. NATO is expanding to the Chinese border.
100% disagree. We just aren't leveraging it properly. The Iran war represents the death of the old globalist model and the beginning of the US empire. If we attempt to go back to the old model, as Mearsheimer wants, we will be in 2nd place to China
>>543278466Iran is Russia's ally, so I don't think they're too pleased about them getting their ass beat.
>>543278296Yep, 3 guesses why
>>543278383ive realized all these people are actors just being paid to say certain things in a convincing way. bonus points with their handlers if they actually believe it.
>>543280316>there is no planning landwars at asiaThe US wargamed this shit 20 years ago. They had a retired Marine General play the Iran commander. "Iran" won within 10 minutes. The General wrote a 20 page critique which was ignored, so he walked out in disgust. >Van Riper’s tactics were attributed to “a renegade element within the red leadership.” A general with 41 years of service, specifically chosen to test the system, had been converted into a character flaw.>His conclusion was filed twelve days after the exercise: “The Blue JTF did not arrive at that end-state by engaging a thinking and adaptive enemy. The result was preordained. Any suggestion otherwise is not credible.”>As Van Riper told The Guardian: “Nothing was learned from this. A culture not willing to think hard and test itself does not augur well for the future.”>Van Riper filed his report on Aug. 12, 2002. The finding was recorded. The doctrine was renamed. The simulation was declared a success. On Feb. 28, 2026, an adversary diplomatically backed into a corner watched the bombers form up and calculated its options. More than two decades earlier, Van Riper’s report accurately predicted what an adversary in Iran’s position would do next.https://www.justsecurity.org/137609/war-game-iran/
>>543281032>the guy with rock solid cold war credentials on the side of the USA is a Russian propagandist simply by being being rational/realist He's an American patriot, TKD
>>543278296no, these are the blunters:the immigration policydelocalization policywomen rights boomers wanting to live above their means (which led to)dollar stopped being backed by gold and being backed by the ability to "project strength"globohomo and zio jews schizophrenia, narcisism and degenerationWithout those, the USA would have iran situation in the bag, an easy game.And the Iran situation basically amounts to the petrodollar:* Israel sitting at the middle point of 3 continents where most of the pipeline of oil flows and came from.* if you control that zone via an ally, or better, "the greatest ally", you control oil flow and thus you can coerce everyone to use the dollar, which arbitrarily gains value* your money gains value = more power/money but also richer citizens and welfarebut the problems I listed above have made it so that the actual citizens of USA 8and the west) that allow the system to run are the most shitcanned people and barely get the means to start a family.Why sacrifice to uphold a system where not only do they not get their share, but those who steal from them also spitefully hate them, sawing the branch they are sitting on?Oil is the liquid running in the veins of the world.
>>543278466redditor spotted
>>543281317What's rock solid about saying in 2014 that Putin would be stupid to invade Ukraine?
>>543281234>He had no choice. NATO is expanding to the Chinese border.Das rite
>>543279173It's a stalemate after 4 1/2 years, and it's only a stalemate because NATO refuses to attack Russia.
>>543278296I would say it's the second biggest, the first one was allowing jews to infect your political system and the third was allowing women to vote.
>>543280293>>543280428>>543280648It’s a big waste of tax payer money but not the disaster retards make it out to be. If anything I think it’s a huge net gain because never before did anyone address the real problem in the room (Israel). It’s crazy to go on social media and out in the real world and see so many normies spout anti Israel rhetoric straight from pol which would never happen several years ago.
>>543281191They are actually somewhat loyal because we pay the most. Soviet HUMINT dropped off drastically after Israelis got their own country. If the US dropped Israel all our jews would become a bigger security risk.
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>>543281318He's referring to geopolitical strategies, but thanks for the effort post.
>>543279958We came out of the Civil War unironically stronger as a nation than we went in. This is pure catastrophe.
>>543281318Remember, the oil from the Strait of Hormuz doesn't go to the US, it goes to China and India. It's the fuel for "the global economy", this globalist international order whereby cheap Chinese products feed the population explosion of India and Africa. But the US has a massive opportunity now to switch global strategies.With the Strait closed, the US suddenly has a near monopoly on global oil supplies. This is extremely powerful, if we used it right. Currently, China and India are bidding up the price of our domestic oil. But what if we cut them off? What if we nationalized our oil companies, and then kept the majority of it domestically? Our prices would be low, and their prices would skyrocket. We could export the excess at the high price, and pay off our national debt in a couple years. All the manufacturing would stream out of China and into America, as we have the cheap oil. This would be a power move de-industrializing China and re-asserting American dominance over the world. But instead of a liberal international order, it will just be American supremacy. The age of the American empire. We could extend this principle to pretty much any material good we have a near-monopoly on. Whether it's AI, or basedbeans, or corn. The other nations would start sputtering and struggling, and becoming politically unstable. As they break up, we assimilate them as American protectorates. America expands. The beginning of the most powerful empire in world history.
>>543280814You're measuring the Russian way to do war with the GAYTO yardstick.Had they done a big arrow movement and captured Kiev what would they get? A country full of partisans and pretty much the same shit the US faced in all it's wars. Russia fights the old fashioned way, not by taking political targets, they fight by grinding down the will to fight. It makes for an ugly war but when they win there's nobody left to oppose them. It has been their modus operandi since they won against Napoleon.
>>543280208It could not be salvaged by fighting more, as you know. This is not the first time foreign adventurism has put us at risk of losing power, but this is the first time it has been so unambiguously stupid. We are out of second chances by this time.
>>543280249This is much worse than Afghanistan from a geopolitical view. Nothing of value was lost in Afghanistan. The whole world is affected tremendously by erratic wars where all the oil transits. We are now the whole world's problem.
>>543281560>If the US dropped Israel all our jews would become a bigger security riskWhy don't you just round them up and strap them to masturbation machines?
>>543281704>fantasizing about how one simple change could solve all of his countries problems without mentioning a single possible negative repercussionGood, good. That doesn't sound like fantastical wishful thinking at all.
>>543281688my god shut up zoomer
>>543281842>The whole world is affected tremendously by erratic warsYou know what normie Americans say about that? Fuck em. It is not exaggeration.
>>543281714They literally spear headed eastern Europe and occupied them for nearly 70 years. I guess that wasn't their style?
>>543281860A change in policy. Where we claim a monopoly on resources, and then use that to break up and assimilate other nations, thereby granting us even more monopoly control....etc. Taking Canada, taking Mexico, taking Britain. Making them protectorates, subjugated territories. This solves another problem too. Capitalism wants cheap labor. Historically, this has been a force for colonialism, as they exploited various undeveloped countries. But once colonism ended, they were forced to bring those people here instead.With this change, tide suddenly reverses. Suddenly, it's whites leaving to the colonies, rather than the reverse. The demographic shift starts going in the other direction.
>>543278296I mean, the Iraq War was worse
>>543282032so many people WANT this to be a forever war, but the war lasted a few fucking weeks. there haven't been major combat operations in months. the "negotiations" back and forth have lasted longer than the combat.
>>543282032It could have been. Saddam should have used poison gas on the Americans so now we would have lots of cripples in politics as more cartoonish version of Cold Warriors.
>>543282007Well, if thinking this is something that's even remotely possible in your country makes you happy, then I'm happy for you.
It's certainly the worst war of my lifetime.
>>543282215It is 100% possible. Trump has a chance, right now, to smash the globalist international order and begin the American Empire. He just needs to nationalize the oil companies. That is the next big move.
>>543281990Did they partisan back? Seems only ones worth historical mention that did were Finns, how'd that play.Brazilians post has some merit, Russia's way of fighting this is pretty much genocidal/displacement without a genocide or displacement.They are still kind of ass tho.
>>543278296Not a blunder so no, he's a retard. The deep state never makes mistakes, no matter how much you try to bend reality.
>>543278909War on terror.
>>543282275I wish I could give you a great big hug right now.
>>543278296No, and it's not even close.
>>543282161You act like they aren't pushing for a full ground invasion
>>543279138and that's the way the boomers like it sonny, you newfangled muslim shitskins and skinheads, my 401k's belly full to bursting's the only thing of any value in this world, not your puny little "change"
Probably somewhere in the top 3 at least. Vietnam was probably worse since there was in theory a way to integrate them into the 1st world system without having to explicitly be anti-socialist but its hard to really judge what effect that would have on other 3rd world countries and what kind of power block they might form entirely on their own. However the issue is that the US basicaly stepped in to prop up a regime they didn't really have any stake in and whose adversary they couldn't truly defeat with conventional military forces. The fact that it happened so soon after Korea where China stepped in once the war got too close to their border, should've honestly forced the Americans to consider other options with war being a very undesirably outcome. Allowing all of Indochina to turn into chink-sweden would hardly have been an unacceptable option and could've helped American standing in other regions.
>>543282382You think being a little faggot is endearing? You're a pathetic person. You're not willing to engage and you have absolutely no arguments. You're not even American, but you will be soon.
>>543278296He sounds like a fucking jew rat so fuck him
>>543282577Anon, how can I engage with your ridiculous fantasies? I genuinely felt embarrassed for you reading that. Just don't get your hopes up, okay?
>>543278296not at all. Iran was going to do this anyway.They've been planning for this for years.But we got them blockaded and they are fucked and we are winning.So fuck this guy for suggesting this was a blunder.Iran must be stopped.
>>543281704uExxon will never this happen. You'd need someone to do a night of the long knives on the oilmen and the bankers and get them under heel. Trump is a giant pussy and too retarded to pull something like that off. I like your vision and enthusiasm though.
It's definitely a disaster in the sense that the current admin have no victory conditions, no policy outcomes and can't even state a proper objective for the continuation of the war or even refuse to acknowledge it as one.
>>543281250It might blow your mind to hear this, but Putin and Trump (quite obviously by now) both belong to team Chabad. Zelensky, too. I don't blame Iran for being fooled. I swore up and down Trump was Russia's boy, too. I should have paid more attention to who fools were marrying.
>>543278466Yo this nigger still lives in 2018Get ready for covidMake sure you get vaccinated
>>543279188why would you post this without the appropriate fucking background you stupid fucking faggot!!?
>>543279559Mearsnigger's been wrong about basically everything related to the russia.
>>543282671You know the oil companies are not exactly well-liked, right? People would cheer this, especially when prices plummet. >Trump is a giant pussy He is dead within like 10-20 years. This is his chance to do something in the world that would make his name in history forever.
>>543281990Not the same thing at all. Back then troop concentration was still possible today with sattelites and drones it's not, but that reason alone armored spearheads ceased to be a thing. War today is fought by light infantry doing infiltration tactics in small groups of up to 3 men with cover from drones and arty. Even the troop movement has to be done very slow and mainly on foggy days as drone cover suffers then.The main reason why we are seeing the Russian army move more and more now is that they finally managed to launch their sattelite internet and supplemented their drone cover with meshed repeaters along southern Belarus and the border areas with Ukraine. Also, on the other hand, they have now very reliable tech to spoof or jam starlink. Before that any big arrow movement was just suicide for both parties so they went on the defensive because they knew Ukraine had to show something to keep the money flowing hence the Surovikin like and Ukrainian debacled in Rabotino, Krinky and whatnot.
>>543282693They can't even get the "it's not a war" part straight. I've seen hegseth and trump call it a war like three dozen times.
>>543278296Nah not the biggest. We created Mexico, the Soviet Union, Vietnam, alot of the Taliban, Khmer Rouge, both Chinas, Cuba, France, Liberia, Japan, and lot of other losers.
>>543282421is that in two weeks or so?
>>543278909this isn't even a war, it's a bombing campaign that has failed to acheive the goal of removing the regime in Iran because it was to go inline with the protesting. So you might as well put it well down the list of fuck ups. Vietnam war was probably the greatest fuckup, an actual war that failed in every way. Afghanistan another actual war that failed after 20 years, both wars in Iran were massive failures, the war in Syria, the removal of Ghaddafi. The irony is this non war still has diesel prices lower than they were under the maj of Obama's 2nd term and there only needs to be any sign of an end to hostilities for them to fall to rock bottom prices again.
>>543278296No. He’s a tranny and he lost.
>>543279173no one is winning, Russia could have done nothing and had has much land as they do now just carrying on the proxy war they were doing since 2014
>>543282339> kind of assThat they aren't. Germany, arguably the strongest land army in European history, who was able to bitch slap the US army many times, broke their teeth when trying to bite Russia. Needless to say Germany back then was at their strongest while Russia due to Communist kikery was at their weakest and they still managed to win. Every European subrace is good at one thing, Germans are great engineers, Anglos are great diplomats, French are great mathmaticians and Slavs are great warriors, I risk to say the best warriors of the white race. Leon Degrelle of all people said this many times. In fact, he called Russia the greatest genetic repository of the aryan race because all the weak genes had been bred out of the population due to hard conditions and even harsher history.
>>543278296Vietnam and Covid dwarf it.
>>543281842OPEC controlled oil. Now the UAE has left OPEC, and OPEC has the problem of having one of it's own members using terrorist attacks against other OPEC members. Control of oil of which OPEC had despite only having say 25% of world oil means if you are talking long term with regard to oil this conflict was one of the better decisions. Pek oil in Saudi Arabia happened a few years ago as well. The ME will cease to be a concern for anything because they offer nothing else.
>>543280667Europe has 4x the population of Russia and is supplying Ukraine in a motorised manufacturing war.Good luck, you'll have to lose at least 20million Russians.
>>543283128Washington had to destabilize South and Central America to pay for Vietnam. The effects of which still confuse Americans about how and why it happened.
>>543282810I agree with you, but what I'm saying is that there are 50 people who run the country, actually. They are mostly bankers and oilmen and can arrange for very bad things to happen to Trump and/or his family. Trump is probably two tiers removed from actual power. He's not in the room with these 50 men. For example, if Trump's biggest donor was Musk, the richest man in the world, we're talking about Musk's boss, whomever that is. Probably some type of space lizard in Tel-Aviv.
>>543278908Is that a fanfic of him standing next to lenin?
>>543278296*in modern times as in the last 10-20 yearsThe biggest one in the entire history of the country is probably not sending them all back to Africa after the Civil War.
>>543283375Probably Steven Walt, the guy he wrote the Israel Lobby book with him.
>>543280293>"""content creators"""
>>543283401Specificity that the CIA done it just obfuscates that the US Government did it like its some rogue administration.
Itran doesn't even know where their leader is and wants the memorandum of understanding back on the table, we can't be doing that bad.
>>543278296it's a huge blunder for prestige and geopolitical strength but the damage done to actual military capabilities is minimal (so far)
>>543283583Eh I think it's a bit of both, there's some ops they did that are signed off by the administration with their full blessings and others that they're allowed to do autonomously within their "scope"the president knew about every single detail of MK ULTRA? probably notare they allowed to autonomously sell drugs to fund themselves? yes
>>543279958>the definitive end to the 'petrodollar' systemYeah, what could go wrong when the entire world debt is leveraged against your monopoly money
>>543278296Of course he’s right. There is no counter argument. Just like this shill >>543278383 has proven. Just >no he’s heckin wrongBut no counterpoint.Trump destroyed himself for jews and fucked the right wing for the midterms and (hopefully not) the next presidential election
>>543283033>that they aren'tNigger. They're on a rough parallel for casualties and just holding land. If they were actually good they would either just take Kiev, then idk create a famine or something, then leave the area as a rump state.Or, stick with whatever the apparent current strategy is except you know, die 80% less, what a concept there, actual competence.We did the whole hold onto land thing for the past ~20 years, and more people died from sad vibes and offing themselves than dune coons did in.And I don't care what happened in upteen 90-whatever nigger. I'm talking about this war, right now. The Russian casualty rates to create a Ukrainian one are clownish. Truth is they're closer to ~1:1 on both sides and anyone saying different is a nigger, I used to suspect far higher Ukrainian casualties than stated, would make sense but no. It's a rough parity.That is an embarrassment for a country with 4x the population and a stockpile of cold war shit to fling at a far smaller enemy.Nafotroons are stupid little retards coping, ultimately Russia will win this war and get it's Donbas clay. All the nafotroonss can finally go commit suicide afterwards I hope.But lol are Russians such a total laughable clownshow of mediocrity and incompetence at accomplishing their goals.Your post cheerleading for the Slav race o algo is laughable to me.Go tell them to cheerlead themselves into sucking on less asshole and skew those casualty ratios sharper then if they're so badass.If you can't tell nigger, I'm not making shekel off of the Ukraine slush fund, I don't get paid to blow smoke up anyone's ass.Ukraine is my overpaid tool and Russia's a bumbling fool. Now die for my fat burger ass baltics, I wouldn't give half a dime to help either, use rocks vassal.
Wrong and stupid. Entering WWI, and WWII, Korea, 'Nam, Iraq I and II, Afghanistan, these were all much much worse. I would even argue that persistently droning every wedding and funeral Obama could find was worse. We don't even have boots on the ground, this is a low intensity conflict. Rothschilds are moaning, they're the top vampires, they answer only to Satan. You know things are OK when they start bitching.
>>543284037I gave the counter argument already, read the thread
>>543278383That's not true.The "America Bad" heuristic is better than average.
>>543278296A retarded kike is right when it serves his interests to hold that position. As for the biggest blunder? No, Mossad via its CIA cocksuckers got the US into Iraq. Iran has been a minor expenditure and American loses have been miniscule. Is it retarded? Yeah. Is it the must retarded thing that kikes ever got a kike-lover president to sign off on? Nope.
>>543284188> They're on a rough parallel for casualtiesAre you privy to Russian state secrets or just pulling numbers out of your ass? Or even worse quoting numbers other pulled out of their ass? If Russia had been losing as many men as the talking heads say they are there woud be sattelite imagery of ambulances or at worse of cemeteries expanding. There's those for Ukraine but not for Russia. Besides, it's nigger tier to think that a country without industry is able to attrit on the same basis a country with more men and who out produces NATO on artillery and drones.tldr you are a dumb macaque. Go peel a banana or something LaQuandrell.
>>543284229Iraq I really didn't matter and wasn't even a kike issue. Saddam was just pissing in the collective cheereos bowl and got a bitch slap for it.
>>543278383he was right about ukraine needing nuclear weapons in the 90s as a deterrence. ironically, piggers are his biggest detractors now because he doesn't believe committing national suicide by war is healthy for a nation. you are a shill tho, so you already know all this and are just mad at him because you were told to be.
>>543278296>"The Iran War is the biggest strategic blunder in US history"inexplicably attacking Iran was the biggest political mistake ever made in the history of the office of the US president, with the most severe consequences for American geo-political standingworse than vietnam, iraq or any other war, by orders of magnitude, tantamount to actual literal treason on behalf of jews.Iran is an abstraction more meaningless to the average Americans life than co-secant or recipricol math. Absolutely no one could articulate how a war with Iran would provide even them most obscure, tangental benefit to an Americans life.. NO ONE. Iran is so unimaginably meaningless and so far from any relevance to an Americans life you could not poll a million of them at random and get a single coherent response out of them to the question of how the "Ayatollah of Iran" does or does not matter to their daily life.. in a world where Americans are most worried about the cost of living, and the general socio-politcal psychosis that is now their daily life, some inexplicable war prosecuted against Iran with this psychotic religious frenzie as if it is Iran with 2 nuclear carriers, 400 jets and unknown amount of submarines outside our international waters absolutely pounding our infrastructure is simply too far into the ludicrous. its simply 'too far'. its insane. and Trump will forever be remembered as the biggest scourge in American political history who catalyzed the end of America as international world power. i cant even imagine what the world is going to look like in 5 years applying ww2-style total-war tactics to every conflict.
>>543284489He was our boy too! Why does this keep happening? Saddam, Noreiga, Bin Laden, Zelensky - oh that one's just coming soon lel.
>>543278466Still trying that.>>543278296Let's hope it willget better on this front.
>>543284406>Iran has been a minor expenditure and American loses have been miniscule.fucking insanenone of the other sand wars ended with the actual infrastructure being evaporated during the war, an the hit US hegemony took during this outlandish failed operation can never be undone, the strategic ambiguity behind it is gone forever, and everyone now knows how little US military (((supremacy))) actually means
>>543278296does it still count as a blunder if it's by design?
>>543284526>he was right about ukraine needing nuclear weapons in the 90s as a deterrence.those faggot niggers were never under any circumstance getting nuclear weapons, and ukraine is not, has never been, and will never be a "real" countryno one would ever take the idea of the country of "OHIO" seriously if it was somehow divorced from the US tomorrow, and started larping as its own ancient culture, language and history
>>543284553>no one could articulate how a war with Iran would provide even them most obscure, tangental benefit to an Americans life.. NO ONE.When I ask two Vietnam vet boomers on my street about this they start repeating what Trump said about them not getting nooks. Its like talking to the dead I don't know why I bother.
>>543278908Putin is a genius and the greatest conqueror of the 21st century for invading Ukranda, no matter how much bullshit you type with your little filthy indian shill paws
In modern US history absolutely
>>543278296Technically the biggest strategic blunder in US as well as human history was letting it get this far and no one is able to stop it.Bibi is a foreign citizen, yet has more representation in the government and the military, than all american citizens combined. Most other nations would have had Bibi and his co-conspirators arrested for overthrowing the American Government and Military and replacing it with.. whatever peope call a government and military. America is waiting waiiting for all US flags to be replaced with Israeli flags, and the Israeli constitution is now the supreme law of America, except again, the donor class is above even the Israeli constitution.Even the CIA would have been crushed onces its revealed the CIA is just another wing of control for the Isreali-Donor class, that the people cannot hold accountable because the CIA is above all laws, and is also incompetant because they refused to stop what the rest of the world and the citizens have known for 70 years now. All decisions and stock portfolios are the crimes that can be attributed to us legal code, but trump and bibi, bessent, cooper, hegsegth, they dont care abou the us constition, they need money and they need blood\bodies to fight a war that the american people cannot stop unless we go to violence and bring down the system, or basically walk into bibis trap of now getting full warrant to execute any american citizen or soldier who says no to the banking elite.These people are clearly possed, yet they are above all laws and reach, they act like gods, but lack accountability, law, virtue, and Honor.Why does the entire us military serve and protect this class which pol and other groups have natmed and attributed crimes/charges to, but the DOJ\Mossad is too compromised to go after the wealthy.The weight of the enitre us military is against the orthodox church, russia, china, and iran and israels neigbors. Bibi gives out medals.
>>543280293All your shit in the middle east has been bombed to hell and back for the 8th month on a row now though
>>543281704>the oil from the Strait of Hormuz doesn't go to the USAre you retarded, you filthy nigger animal?The US as it is exists because of the global chain of supply
>>543285043and? how has that done a single thing to stop anything?
>>543278296So far*We have 6 years of trump at least coming, we can’t beat that record!!
>>5432789090) Hadrian not finishing the job circa 100 AD. (Technically not the US's fault, but everything else is downhill from here)1) Not deporting niggers after the civil war2a) Letting in the jews in 1880 after they got kicked out of eastern Europe (again) for starting a civil war (again).2b) Letting in the communists fleeing Stalin in the 1910's.3) 1965 Hart-Cellar act (removal of borders)4) Getting involved in WW1 and WW25) Getting involved with Israel at all6) Electing a bunch of elderly men that can't resist cunny for the past 40 years.7) Iran war <----- you are here. Would never have happened without the previous 6.8) Vietnam (thanks Kissinger!)9) Afghanistan10) Industrializing China (for free) (thanks Kissinger!)11) Not letting Russia starve to death in WW2 and all throughout the Cold War (thanks Kissinger!)10) Iraq11) Syria12) Korean War (thanks Kissinger!)13) Not hanging Kissinger from a lamppost (thanks kikes!)14) Not hanging all of B'nai B'rith for defending the child raping murderer Leo Frank for the past 100 years, leading to the ADL, AIPAC, and SPLC (thanks kikes!)15) Not nuking Israel (thanks every chicken shit president for the past 80 years)
>>543285118You can't stop anything yeah, you can't defend your vassals or your bases
>>543281274it's funny when they have news debates they always have two guys who arepro what they support and one guy who is against it. They all give the answer they want them to give use to watch RT and noticed this. New's is nothing but a big probpaganda pice. it always does this. They tell a story then they have a guest who is an expert knowing how bad tv is and how lazy these people are I think the common man in the street is more qualified in life and more inteligent then anyone that works in tv.
>>543285106The US is the champion of a "global international order". That's why they keep talking about "the global economy".But this would be a change. Smashing the globalist system, and going to pure American nationalism, where America becomes a genuine empire. The alternative is to remain in the "globalist order" where we are 2nd to China and fading as a power. But if we strike now, while the iron is hot, we can de-industrialize China end become the most dominant country in the world.
>>543285118Right, I'm sure the fuel riots in the Philippines are just a cohencidence.
>>543285273Go for it, no one's stopping you lol
>>543285279that doesn't sound like my problem>>543285218Not a single thing Iran has done this entire time has stopped the US from doing whatever we want.
>>543285365Yeah that's what I'm saying. Trump should nationalize the oil companies, then impose export controls.
>>543285381>that doesn't sound like my problemPhilippines are a key US ally against China.Instability could unironically be the domino that leads to Taiwan reunification, which would quickly send AAPL and NVIDIA to $0.This would result in your female relatives, old and young, selling their poon tang for the cost of a large fries.
>>543278296its not over, if iran wins and damages the petrodollar yes
>>543284781Ukraine is more like the Texas of Russia>horse-rider culture>speak the national language but slur all the vowels>borderland with a bunch of brown people>history of disobeying the feds>foreign rivals would love if it broke off because it would ruin the economy if it did
>>543278296Yup
>>543285810Imagine this>The USA has an economic collapse>Texas secedes>The USA lets Texas secede because we have no resources to stop them>Texas holds an election>George W. Bush wins>Texas holds another election>Ted Cruz wins>Texas holds another election>Donald Trump Jr. wins>A group of angry Spanish-speaking guys riding Toyota trucks chase Donald Trump Jr. out of Texas at gunpoint>George Lopez is installed as president of Texas>Texas under George Lopez bans the English language>Texas under George Lopez declares the USA its number one enemy>Texas under George Lopez announces its intention to join BRICS>Audio leaks of Xi Jinping's envoy to Texas saying "Yes, make George Lopez the new President. We want Lopez">President of the United States Nick Fuentes says on live TV "Texas was never a country. Texas was created by Mexico.">China starts arming Texas with missiles rapidly>Dallas secedes from Texas>Texas starts bombing Dallas>The USA invades Texas>Chinese internet starts talking about how the USA invaded Texas for no reason>Every street corner in Beijing suddenly has a Texan flag on it>#RememberTheAlamo trending on Weibo
>>543278296Yes
>>543278296>Is he right, /pol/?no, they wanted to make everyone else poor for some reason
>>543278296I voted Republican for the first time ever in 2024 because Trump said "No more forever wars" and "End the war with Russia". Lol. Lmao
>>543278296WWII was. Not even close.
>>543278296He’s always right. Especially about the Jewish lobby.
>>543286605If you want to play that game, technically the founding of the United States itself involved Jews and Freemasons, which would make the Declaration of Independence the greatest mistake in US history lol
>>543286322The worst part is you vote and your vote is worth as much as mine
>>543278296Only about this.
>>543286844The invention fire has caused irrevocable damage to mankind.
>>543278296>biggest strategic blunder in US historyNo, not even close. That would be the War of Northern Aggression and the nigger-loving yankees permanently unleashing the nigger menace and giving them rights.
>>543281990>They literally spear headed eastern Europe and occupied them for nearly 70 years.Feels like you're omitting a few details there
>>543285443Nationalization is an unrealistic solution, and the export control thing would backfire because you'd have to keep production lower to keep capacity from hitting full, which would eventually push up every other price except for diesel, best case scenario.
>>543281704you're like a little kid. no idea about anything.We only allowed the exportation of domestic oil in 2015 because fracking, a oil extraction technology, suddenly turned us into the world's largest oil producer overnight.
>>543281234I'm glad we agree that Putin invading Ukraine was stupid.
>>543278383neither has italy, so I guess it cancels out
>>543278595>once they are done with usa they'll happily switch to new body to parasite ofWho? Everyone worth a damn hates them.
i mean diesel is $6.50 / gallon. this is a good thing in the eyes of a migger
>>543278296Yes, it destroyed Trump presidency, USA image and accelerated the end of the petrodollar at an impossible speed and only because Netanyahu wanted it
The Iran and afghan wars were more of a strategic blunder as everything could have been turned around at that point, we were the global hegemon, the national debt was affordable at the time infact less than we spent in Iraq and Afghanistan, could have instead focused more on east Asia and china before it got too big by 2008
>>543278908>He thought putin was to smart to invade UkraineWhat exactly was Putin supposed to do? Sit around twiddling his thumbs while NATO set up shop in Ukraine and prepared an attack on Russia? Obviously the SMO hasn't gone 100% splendidly, but the alternative would have been much worse. Russians knew this would be a long war going in.
>>543289490>...but saddam tried to kill my pa (not really)
>>543289272>you'd have to keep production lower to keep capacity from hitting fullNo the point is, you reserve most of the production locally. That would create an international scarcity, sending the price internationally way up. Then we export the extra at a high price, and make massive bankrolls of money, easily paying off the national debt. Those other countries would suffer of course, they'd be dealing with huge cost increases. So we'd have them over a barrel. We could start demanding huge concessions in exchange for some oil. Or for the more fragile ones, collapsing them and then incorporating them as imperial holdings. They wouldn't become states, they'd need a new designation. As we take more territory, we gain even more supply-monopolies, and we can do this with even more resources. China would be totally de-industrialized, since all the manufacturing would flee to America. Since we have "colonies" now, effectively, we'd go back to exporting whites rather than importing browns, basically reversing the demographic disaster trend.
>>543278383/thread
>>543281274smartest mutteven if they werent the effect would be exactly the sameit's like watching videos of twitter tier commentary
>>543289408pure mutt moment
>>543278296I want to hear a convincing, rational, non religious, secular totally sane and calmly argued reason for why:>("Iran.. under no circumstance ever, even if it means the global apocalypse anyway may never possess a nuclear weapon") and how the world must universally recognize Iran as some kind of insane, irratational international rabid pitbull, incapble of reason, logic or basic humanity who would instantaneously nuke the planet the moment it could mount one on a missile.,,?and how this talking point became the de-facto mission statement of planet earth...how did "keeping nuclear weapons out of Irans hands" become human civilizations non-negotiable hard "red line"?
>>543278296HE IS OBVIOUSLY AN ANTISEMITE WHO NEEDS TO BE OUTED AND LOSE HIS JOB AND HIS CHILDREN NEED TO LOSE THEIR JOBS AND HIS GRANDCHILDREN TOO!
>>543285381>>Not a single thing Iran has done this entire time has stopped the US from doing whatever we want.*aside from facilitating the production and free transportation of oil through the gulf, having military bases in the gulf, and regime changing Iran
>>543290903Because bibi said so
>>543289580you are an idiotic delusional imbecile, and I intuit you dont even invest, retard
>>543292350Nice "argument" bro, I'll take my education over yours.
>>543281714They tried sniping the capital at first but got pushed back, the issue as that drones make large scale maneuver extremely difficult.
>>543292622Russia has not developed any comprehensive strategy to deal with the drones, and think throwing men at anti-infantry weaponry is a great move. It's like in Rome Total War when you charge your horses directly into the spearmen, you know what I mean? Great move, surely. I've thought of several countermeasures against the drones myself. I also know how to build a laser weapon that would totally clear the battlefield of drones. But ahhh who listens to me anyway.
>>543281990They killed around 7 million Germans and millions of German allies, so it's kind of the same but different because in WW2 Russia lost a huge chunk of Russia and all that jazz, a bigger war can't last as much as a limited existencial conflict where Russians patiently bomb the shit out of Ukranian static positions and then advance on top of the charred corpses
Yes Mearsheimer is an idiot, it is all of you's'es that are GeNiOuSeS.
>>543278296It isn't over yet, but so far this Epsteinian Campaign has been a total L. I would die to read what history books write about this cucked useless US war in 100 years. They'll probably pass over it in a single paragraph or not all if the Earth Government has taken control.
>>543278909Failure of Kennedy to eliminate Israel's Dimona nuclear facility when he had the chance.
>>543289580>Then we export the extra at a high price, and make massive bankrolls of money, easily paying off the national debt.Or... you enter demand destruction. Diesel is nonnegotiable for industry, so if it's not there or prohibitively expensive, demand will decrease.>So we'd have them over a barrel. We could start demanding huge concessions in exchange for some oil.This is all assuming the ME twiddles their thumbs while oil prices go parabolic.>China would be totally de-industrialized, since all the manufacturing would flee to America.Why would they do that when oil can be found for much cheaper in the ME? It takes years to build a line of factories for any single industry, and a generation to properly man them. By allowing the petrodollar to be dismantled by effectively abandoning the ME, you're subsequently incentivizing the Gulf to sell every last Treasury they have to make up for losses, as America being a true petrostate makes us a direct competitor. A treasury sell-off on that magnitude (not including other countries like China and Japan doing the same thing as well) would send interest rates to the moon and send America into a hyperinflationary death loop as the world's dollars come rushing back to America. I suppose browns would leave for better pastures, but only because they wouldn't want to take wheelbarrows full of greenbacks to the grocery store for a loaf of bread.
Biggest blunder is electing orange man. I'm sure at some point it will have a designation of Pre and Post-Trump America.Conservatives voted for our destruction even more than they did with Bush and Reagan.
>>543278296Federal reserve was the true “no going back” moment.
>>543296638>demand will decrease.Oil is not like that, it's not a normal good. It's essential, the core of all modern life. Green energy is still a decade or two out. It's like saying if you restrict people's drinking water, there will de "demand destruction". Lol not if they want to live healthy lives. >This is all assuming the ME twiddles their thumbs while oil prices go parabolic.What do you mean? They're locked down by Iran. That's the beauty of it. Keep the blockade going, and if it ever falters, start a little brushfire. It's that easy. >oil can be found for much cheaper in the METhe middle east's oil will be locked down in perpetuity. Until such a time that we open it, at which point we will directly control it. >It takes years to build a line of factories for any single industryThey better get building then. Besides, we're in a new era of advancement. It doesn't have to take decades, we could do it in 5. >By allowing the petrodollar to be dismantled It's being dismantled anyway by China. The current global order is just going to be a Chinese victory. This would be a C-change which leaves the US in a dominant position. >Muh treasuriesthe Fed'll figure it out. We have the oil backstopping us, it's those other countries that have to worry about inflation. >I suppose browns would leave for better pasturesYou see, the issue here is capitalism. Capitalism needs that cheap labor and has throughout all of history. Once the colonial era ended, they could no longer exploit it over there. So they started bringing it here. If we began a new colonial era, we could once again use capitalism to spread whiteness all across the globe. White countries would be known for emigrating lots of people to work in the colonies, as it was before.
>>543297018>Oil is not like that, it's not a normal good. It's essential, the core of all modern life.Exactly, of modern life. If a country has to clamp down and ration energy to maintain their sovereignty, as you mentioned the idea of imperial holdings, why wouldn't they eat the pain? Green energy has make a lot of progress in the last couple decades as well, and a move like this would only hasten that progress. Nuclear, hydro, solar, even biofuels, coal liquefaction and gas, are now much cheaper. >The middle east's oil will be locked down in perpetuity.For as long as the war can continue. Meanwhile our bond yields are spiking, the debt grows, and munitions dwindle. Iran's geopolitical position slowly improves and encompasses the entire ME, excluding Turkey and Syria.>It doesn't have to take decades, we could do it in 5.It took China decades with a centralized, top-down model, and you're saying five for this government? Let's not fool ourselves here.>It's being dismantled anyway by China.>the Fed'll figure it out.Not an answer. The change you're talking about would backfire like this war did for Israel, sending the average American into poverty.
>>543297394>If a country has to clamp down and ration energy to maintain their sovereignty, as you mentioned the idea of imperial holdings, why wouldn't they eat the pain?They would become very poor, and very unstable. The US could start pushing huge demands onto them, and slowly transition them into imperial holdings. In exchange for getting oil-access of course. If some states are super weak, we could just collapse them and take them over. As we take more territory, we get more of these supply-monopolies. We could start doing this same thing with farm goods, and other things. The US would start expanding like an empire. Once we have these imperial holdings, or "managerial regions", capitalism will work in our favor and reverse the flow of immigration, into emigration. Whites would start pollinating the world. >Meanwhile our bond yields are spiking, the debt grows, and munitions dwindleI think bringing home manufacturing and nationalizing the oil, would start paying down the national debt in spades. Just like most manufacturing states, we'd be a lender rather than a debtor.>It took China decades with a centralized, top-down model, and you're saying five for this government?We would have to be a little bit more authoritian yeah. This is an aggressive idea, it's more like the beginnings of the American Empire. I'm not saying do away with democracy, but I am saying the government would have to start directing national resources. >The change you're talking about would backfire like this war did for IsraelNo, I think the current course is a path to destruction. I think we need to make a radical C-change to avoid going off the cliff. We all see it coming.
>>543289580The national debt doesn't work like private or household debt, there's no paying it off. What the national debt truly represents is the extent to which there's money vs how many goods and services there are, when there's more money than goods and services that's inflation. Either the oil is exported for foreign currency, which is useless towards "paying" the national debt, or it's exported for usd, in which case you are correct that would "pay" the national debt but only because it creates demand for usd and stops reserves from coming back to the US. In all liklihood something like >>543296638 would happen>By allowing the petrodollar to be dismantled by effectively abandoning the ME, you're subsequently incentivizing the Gulf to sell every last Treasury they have to make up for losses, as America being a true petrostate makes us a direct competitor. A treasury sell-off on that magnitude (not including other countries like China and Japan doing the same thing as well) would send interest rates to the moon and send America into a hyperinflationary death loop as the world's dollars come rushing back to America.And if national debt represents money vs goods and services you are actually worsening the national debt if this happens. Unless you could somehow make enough "extra" to export for USD, if other countries would even go along with that and not try to find alternatives or just start ww3.
>>543278296It's the biggest mask off moment for jews. Accelerate.
I don't know if it will be the most damaging thing the USA ever did but it's definitely the most unnecessary of all its errors. Every single expert knew it would go like this, which is why it took until Trump for it to "go" at all.
>>543297721Money is the lubricant for resources. It's just the liquid that allows resources to flow between people, and between states. I'm thinking in terms of resources. I think sometimes we confuse ourselves by trying to think about the currency flows and monetary systems....etc. I think if you have resources behind you, that's value. You won't enter hyperinflation, you got the substance. If we reshored manufacturing, we'd have a lot more "substance", and a lot stronger currency and less debt.Contrary to popular belief, I don't think this debt-based economy is serving people very well. I think GDP is a rather useless stat, we've been pumping up consumption to make this number go up, but where has it left us really? Teetering in debt, ready to be rugpulled. This is not a good situation to be in.>you are actually worsening the national debt if this happensI don't agree with you. Producer states are generally not bigtime debtors. I don't think what you're saying is right.
>>543278383yep
>>543297701>They would become very poor, and very unstable. The US could start pushing huge demands onto them, and slowly transition them into imperial holdings.This administration believed they could do this with a certain country this year, and it backfired tremendously. I highly advise that you don't think like they do and follow their path.>bringing home manufacturing>We would have to be a little bit more authoritian yeah.Advocating for the impoverishment of Americans to then force them into modern factories (that are somehow going to appear along with prerequisite manufacturing expertise) so that they may feed themselves is seems more than authoritarian. And no, you're not paying down the national debt when the debt is larger than the money supply. >No, I think the current course is a path to destruction. I think we need to make a radical C-change to avoid going off the cliff.You're not wrong, but this is not a viable solution. As for why, please answer the bond market question. Saying the Fed is gonna figure something out is Bessent-tier jawboning.
>>543278296Nah, Trump is cracking those nuts in the wisest way possible, by making them bleed their own blood rather than sacrificing Americans for performative occupation.That you would rather pretend you could've indefinitely put off dealing with the islamic loonies bothering the largest traderoutes on earth does not make it so; islam is an inhuman infection, no matter whether you want to see it for what it is or not.
>>543278296Nothing has happened, the world will keep turning, it will keep getting increasingly worse, at faster and faster pace, just like it has been and always will be until we inevitably implode. Please be in 2 more weeks this time.
>>543297964You basically have to just hope that domestic production + monopoly on oil export would offset the inflationary effect of losing the petrodollar. And also that the rest of the world would just resign themselves to not doing anything about this despite how important oil is for everything in the modern world.
>>543298129>This administration believed they could do this with a certain country this year, and it backfired tremendouslyI don't agree. I think the Iran war was a huge mistake, but I think it provided an "opportunity" for us to transition our global strategy. We just got a big oil monopoly, let's use that. >force them into modern factories Huge portions of our country have been stripped and impoverished because we lost manufacturing. This is bringing home jobs, and most importantly the *knowledge* that comes with manufacturing. You know how China can build a bridge in 3 weeks and it takes us 30 years? Yeah now we'd be able to do that. >but this is not a viable solutionI don't have the knowledge that someone like Trump would have, so there could be oversights I'm making. Everything should be studied and carefully considered by professionals before being put into motion. But I really do believe this is the right move. I think Trump can cut the Gordian knot right now and undo this liberal globalist world order.
>>543298345and also domestic production takes time to come back
>>543279958>In this case the US withdrawing means the definitive end to the 'petrodollar' system in particular but the idea of US global hegemony generally.It means a total disaster for America in the form of a total government insolvency. A kind of Soviet Union 1991 implosion, but with American characteristics. Not identical, but similar in outcome.
>>543278296Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, no?
>>543298443>We just got a big oil monopoly, let's use that.The oil we have access to via fracking is mostly light and sweet. What oil monopoly do we have when our refineries are specifically made for heavy and sour, the stuff that makes a great deal of diesel?>You know how China can build a bridge in 3 weeks and it takes us 30 years? Yeah now we'd be able to do that.The problem isn't industrializing and bringing back our manufacturing base (I think the entire country would agree with you on that), the problem is that this only *might* happen and you'd be guaranteed to impoverish your people to Weimar levels to do this.>I think Trump can cut the Gordian knot right now and undo this liberal globalist world order.I wouldn't put much faith in him to care for future generations. He's a nihilist at heart and he's always been like that.
>>543278296Yes, also the 2nd biggest military blunder of the century after Russia trying to invade Ukraine.
>>543298718>What oil monopoly do we have when our refineries are specifically made for heavy and sour, the stuff that makes a great deal of diesel?I'm assuming of course, we basically "own" Canada and Mexico. That's on the US side of the ledger. Canada should be incorporated as a state, and Mexico should be the first of our "managerial areas" that we use to flush the browns to. >the problem is that this only *might* happen and you'd be guaranteed to impoverish your people to Weimar levels to do this.No the US wins in this scenario. It's those OTHER people that would become impoverished. This is not a mutual-win, it's a US win. And then when those other places become impoverished, we start taking them over. It's an imperial model. I think we should be taking over europe totally, for example. I also think should have our own hemisphere, and start colonizing it.>I wouldn't put much faith in him to care for future generationsHe has the makings of a hero, or a villain. He's gonna die anyway, go out a legend. Make sure his name is spoken 1000 years from now. The American Caesar who made us an Empire.
>>543283225>Europe has 4x the population of Russia and is supplying Ukraine in a motorised manufacturing war.Population is irrelevant, tiny North Korea produces more artillery shells, more ballistic missiles and more artillery barrels than all of NATO _combined_.
>>543278909Electing trump
>>543278296>"The Iran War is the biggest strategic blunder in US history"For Boomer US gov? There are numerous other bluneds. Boomer US gov thought they are in 1980y, and that they easily start an win a war against Russia in UKraine .>or Russia would collapse>Russia didn't collapse>they lost .US boomer gov is also $40 TRILLION dollars in debt, and they are planning to pass this boomer debt onto kids and grand kids.>you know, pull yourselves by the bootstraps , while we receive trillionsBased on these 2 blunders, iran is irrelevant.
Trump also lost the Afghanistan war, no one mentions that
>>543284526 >>543284526I am going to repeat what this other anon said.>>he was right about ukraine needing nuclear weapons in the 90s as a deterrence.>those faggot niggers were never under any circumstance getting nuclear weapons, and ukraine is not, has never been, and will never be a "real" country>no one would ever take the idea of the country of "OHIO" seriously if it was somehow divorced from the US tomorrow, and started larping as its own ancient culture, language and history
>>543301930CIA and Bush Started Afghanistan war. Biden auto penned the stop for the CIA and Pentagon to move out of Afganistan.>I guess CIA found other ways to sell drugs in USA>other than opium/ heroin, >such as synthetic drugs and fentanyl >so CIA didn't need Afghanistan anymore for opium.
>>543298759Russia won against 30 countries and the entire NATO , and stopped NATO nazi army from forming on their border once again, like Hitler nazi army did before ww2. Russia started the war and eliminated nato nazi army from their border.
>>543289580>Those other countries would suffer of course, they'd be dealing with huge cost increases.this will start a war in Egypt btwidk how Egypt's military has kept order for this long, but when they implode and the suez is at risk, that's when you can expect true great depression conditions
>>543278296No. The biggest strategic blunder was bringing over slaves from Africa. And then it was bringing in Italians + Irish + Jews.
>>543302035Sure. But trump lost it
>>543302035Oh, sorry, missed the autopen part. No, trump negotiated with the taliban and put in the order to retreat. Biden didnt do that
>>543278383fpbpI'm not a fan of the trump administration but this war has been going his way since it started. Iran is not able to make the US bleed like the Ukrainians are doing with the Russians, instead they have to hope that the whole world bleeds and stops the US on their own, something that will never happen.
>>543304004There's nothing wrong with Irish.
Irish are Northern Europwan, I don't understand why someone would have a problem with them.
>>543278296>BiggestI don't know about that, but it's certainly one of the bigger ones.
>>543278908But Russia still owns part of Ukraine and they haven't been pushed out. Idk how you guys act like Ukraine is winning when their win condition of "getting Russia out of Ukraine" won't ever happen? I'm just a dumb Amerimutt, maybe an armchair European military general could set me straight? (Hard mode: Use objective facts and reasoning; not just snarky quips and gore webms)
>>543279273How much territory has Ukraine permanently recaptured from Russia in the last 3-6 months? Go.
>>543278909Slavery.
>>543278296Wouldn't that actually be letting zionists into positions of government, power, and influence? If it wasn't for that Iran wouldn't have happened, among other things...
>>543278296no. the biggest blunder was electing president diaper dementia donny
>>543306952him not being aborted upon conception is a bigger blunder
>>543278383Trump was right about Obama & Biden though, just not about Iran or Israel or AI or Data Centers or antisemitism or Netanyahu or most everything else, you are correct.
>>543278909Federal Reserve, Civil Rights, Immigration Act of 1965
>>543279173This is pretty much Afghanistan 2.0, but this time, afghanistan is droning all your refineries endlessly, destroyed nearly your entire soviet stockpile, causing over a million casualties, and is getting endless stream of satellite data to efficiently blow up your men and armor and you only are in 15% of the country occupied compared to 80% of afghanistan and you haven't even disposed of their leadership yet. Also, there was never a point in Afghanistan where they retreated 3 times due to getting all their men killed .They aren't invading now because they want to, it's because they have to. Look up what happens to Russia's leadership when they lose wars.
