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Mamdani made me realize that the inherent problem with socialism is primarily the susceptibility to abuse by bad actors rather than the systems themselves actually being bad. Under someone benevolent, socialism is actually a good thing. Under Mamdani it works great since he actually has the interests of the people at heart. Under literally any other democrat, it would be bad.

This is not to say communism is good, it goes too far. A 75% socialist-25% capitalist combination would be ideal in my eyes.
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>>543289399
>Mamdani made me realize that the inherent problem with socialism is primarily the susceptibility to abuse by bad actors rather than the systems themselves actually being bad. Under someone benevolent, socialism is actually a good thing. Under Mamdani it works great since he actually has the interests of the people at heart. Under literally any other democrat, it would be bad.
>This is not to say communism is good, it goes too far. A 75% socialist-25% capitalist combination would be ideal in my eyes.
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>>543289399
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>>543289399
also he is super cute uwu
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>>543289468
Wow a Jew posting about OP being Jewish brilliant
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>>543289399
Im a libertarian and I like mamdani too because he cares about his city. His programs are dumb tho
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>>543289468
He's a Muslim, why would a Jew glaze him?
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>>543289399
eventually you will get conservatives working within that framework. why worry? just follow the trends
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>no one in this thread has a good argument against what was said
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>>543289399
No, not exactly. A "bad actor" can just be a large percentage of the population under socialism that refuse to contribute because of laziness or other factors. Socialism doesn't work and never will because there are too many people that naturally feel entitled to being taken care of without contributing. Socialism/communism is inherently a failed system purely by design and cannot ever work due to those flaws.
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>>543289399
Capitalism mixed with socialism is perfect harmony. It's called national socialism.
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>>543289528
>He's a Muslim, why would a Jew glaze him?

All socialism = Jewish
All socialist "leaders" are Jewish controlled golems.
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>>543289593
All they can say is "DUUUURH JEWS JEWS JEWS NIGGERS". They don't actually have an answer for anything, politics is just an excuse to fantasize about killing people.
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>>543289399
Name 3 things he has done that have improved your life.
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socialism only works if it's homogenous national socialism, even better if it's ethno-nationalist like what the jews have in their various enclaves. the nordics have socialism and any norwegian can do well in school, get the state to pay for grants for them to attend univ. anywhere in the world (source some wannabe comedian norwegie said he got a full ride to attend ASU).

in the US you can also do well and get grants, full-ride, but it's not usually paid in full by the gov. the only thing people get paid in full here is when the Toll is paid.

too long dindread - just don't fuck up, just do well extremely well in school (difficult if you're up against indians/chinks/gooks and they take all the scholarships)

you want wwelfare snap bennies in the US? work a low paying job and apply for it. go all the way. accelerate.

nigger kike tax (paid)....talmud denounced
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>>543289755
Nothing since I don't live in New York. Though if I did, cheaper groceries would be one of them. Putting everyone in a better mood would be another. Being anti-Israel is yet another.
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>>543289896
Rent freezing too, that would be a big one.
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>>543289399
>A 75% socialist-25% capitalist combination
Perhaps some nationalism too? Whatever could we call such a thing?
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>I have lived long enough to see anerican /pol/ flags go back to be left wing.
I have seen enough,Republicans are getting destroyed this Midterms, time to double down on my Talarico bet.
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>>543290087
My first election I got to vote in was the 2024 election. I voted for Trump since my family wanted me to. After the shitshow the past 2 years have been, it will take a lot for me to turn Republican again.
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>>543289399
Under someone benevolent, slavery is great!
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>>543289645
Are you french or dumb ?
Capitalism + socialism = Capital socialism
>Capital socialism is a mixed economic system blending private capital ownership with significant state intervention to redistribute wealth and provide public services, often described as "socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor."


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>>543289645
Nationalism : Love of their kind, hatred of a minority whatever it is.
Socialism : Redistribute wealth and provide public services, hatred of the richest.
National socialism = Redistribute wealth and provide public services only for their kind, hatred of minorities.
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>>543290159
>indian
Okay.
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>>543289399
That's literally any system you retard. Trump and the Republican Party are demonstrating the opposite end of that sentiment regarding the Constitution at this very moment. FFS Hegseth just gave subtle encouragement directly to the troops on who to vote for.
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>>543289782
that was prob me btw i got in several times to ASU trying to weigh options and im american and while i do want to go back for the sake of my social life i am actually crippled both mentally and physically (i tried very hard to ignore it for years) now i was told not to do uni so i feel living it out here would be better norway is boring especially not having a social life but it’s just so much gooder esp as a native. i think it’s worth sharing that it works well
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>>543290159
Okay an actual response here. If I'm gonna be paying taxes, I want those taxes to benefit me and my neighbors. We live in society, and there's a toll for that. If you wanna call that slavery, I suppose that's fair.
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>>543289399
>PIAA
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>>543290656
Taxes are okay as long as they’re low. They’re not fundamentally socialist.

Mamdani, on the other hand, is an Islamic communist and a Soros puppet who is ruining NYC.
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>>543292399
And is the best fucking mayor of the last 40 years of either party.

All you're doing is making Islamic communism sound better and better.
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>>543292399
>Mamdani, on the other hand, is an Islamic communist
the jew nigger has to make this post with a meme flag btw^
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Yeah, he’s so charming, except that he’s a radical, incoherent when it comes to the rich, and selectively antisemitic.

Netanyahu arrest status, anyone?
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>>543289656
Imagine having a woman tell you how to engage in your faith. Jewish cuckoldry at its peak.
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>>543292843
Did he not have him arrested?
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>>543289468
migger detected
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>>543292399
>Taxes are okay as long as they’re low
I don't care if taxes are high when they're being used to the benefit of the people. I get that money back through low priced groceries and capped rent.
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>>543292938
>Imagine having a woman tell you how to engage in your faith. Jewish cuckoldry at its peak.
Jews are traditionally a matriarchial based society clan.

Masculinity is rare among Jew Socialists.
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>>543292843
>>543293976
Local government can't arrest world leaders apparently. Only the federal government can.

But I applaud the attempt.
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>>543294261
Damn. Also funny people are calling him a Jew when he's probably the most anti-Israel politician I've seen.
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>>543294298
Yeah. Netanyahu actually stood up in front of the UN and called mamdani an antisemite and a threat to the Jewish people of New York.

Which is a ringing endorsement if you ask me
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>>543294620
It's weird because he actually respects the Jewish community in New York, he just doesn't like Israel specifically.
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>>543294620
Israelis always call shit that's against them "antisemitic" when it actually isn't.
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>>543289528
jews vote for muslim immigration and support muslim democrats candidates.
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>>543294755
Muslims hate Jews, that makes no sense.
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>>543289399
Every proponent of socialism/marxism/communism is a bad actor preying on the stupidity of youth.
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>>543294620
Well, the evidence suggests otherwise. The DSA and those like them are just more Zionist controlled opposition.
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>>543294830
If capitalism was working worth a damn, people wouldn't be seeking out alternative systems.

If you want to keep capitalism as is, you need to convince people to fix it. It's not working for the poor anymore.
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>>543294859
Hey, it's you and your schizo-pic. How's it going? Your meds treating you well?
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>>543289399
Mamdani vs. Amazon.
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>>543289399
>Under Mamdani it works great since he actually has the interests of the people at heart. Under literally any other democrat, it would be bad.
Shut the fuck up your low IQ DSA niggerbrained pavement ape.

The state of Florida has a lower budget than NYC and it has 2.5x the population. NYC is a fucking hell hole run by corrupt idiots that steal and waste money, the money that EVERY citizen pays in taxes and fees, on a colossal scale.

Just because you yourself dont understand how poorly and inefficiently NYC is run because you are ignorant of the topic does not make it "actually a good thing"; it just makes you a stupid motherfucker.

How are those city owned grocery stores working out over there? Dumbass.
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>>543295161
I hear they're working great.
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>>543295198
>I hear they're working great
The first one hasnt opened yet, because your genius Mayor; the one where everything is "working great" is already behind schedule and over budget because they cant figure out a way for the government run store to not put local owned stores near it out of business and create a food desert.

But Mamdani is a smart guy, im sure he will figure it out.
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>>543289399
>everything he does is for browns only
Anon...
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>>543289399
This was always the problem with socialism.

It's also the problem with capitalism by the way, which is now fully captured by crony interests.
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>>543289399
that's the inherent problem of any system. a good system would be one that is less naive about its susceptibility to abuse by bad actors.
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>>543295346
>they cant figure out a way for the government run store to not put local owned stores near it out of business
NYC already has 2 government run stores that seemingly had no negative impact on the surrounding stores. But they don't bring up that talking point much
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>>543289399
>the inherent problem with socialism is primarily the susceptibility to abuse by bad actors rather than the systems themselves actually being bad. Under someone benevolent, socialism is actually a good thing.
the problem is humans

AI must take over
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>>543289399
Sorry, no. Somebody has to make the stuff.
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>>543295826
I heartily agree and welcome our new benovolent AI masters
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>>543289399
Nah you have an app that replaces modern governments.

Simple. Instead of voting for people, you vote directly on policy. Think a constitution that can be edited and voted on like a wiki with version history on a blockchain.

Basically you design an app that does everything our representatives are supposed to do. Get enough people to use it and eventually the legacy governing apparatus just kind fades away.
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>>543289399
Mamdani is a greater threat to Democrats than he is to Republicans. If he is somewhat popular in NY then that is a huge problem for Democrats as that popularity can easily spread to other areas and the more moderate Democrats lose support and influence.
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>>543296058
Good. Centrist AIPAC democrats can fuck right off.
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>>543289399
You sound 12 years old. It's also not good under this muzzy cunt unless you yourself are one of these brown parasites piggybacking off of white civility, since Mamdani wants to tax white neighbourhoods higher so he can give more to underachievers and hangers-on like you and yours.

>durr the systems r GOOD but 2 ezly susceptible 2 aboos by da hooman condition

Which makes them inherently flawed. You can cut the legs out of any political doctrine with this low resolution analysis, at least fascism is upfront about the fact that you're all going to be subservient to the state and we're all going to have protectionism and nationalism and forced right wing militarism.
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>>543289896
>Putting everyone in a better mood would be another.

sweet fucking lord what a pathetic reach, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel

"dude it's about the vibes and he's got some good ones goin on!"

KILL yourself
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>>543296586
People don't commit crimes when they're happy.
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DATS SOSHLASM!!!
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>>543298354
Oh hell yeah, Jon Taffer.
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The mamdami thing has been hilarious, lmao
>mamdami: I think you should be paid fairly and not exploited
>the right and capitalism: OH FUCKKKK ITS SO OVER, FUUUCK MAN NEW YORK IS FUCKING FINISHED, ITS DEAD
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>>543289399
Idk I just think he looks cute
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>>543295198
Did you hear that from CNN? MSNOW? CBS or ABC News? Or maybe the AP? Or the NYT?
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>>543289399
Agreed
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>>543289399
Whats the difference between a benevolent capitalist and a 'communist'? Shouldnt capitalists be the change they want to see or is that communisim?
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leftist spam in this board is so boring, you guys don't even try to pretend you are organic



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