Can communism be installed via democratic means or is violent revolution a requirement?
I'm going to violent revolution my dick into your butt hole
>>543308799Communism is not even a means to an end. You are a dog chasing a car that will become roadkill.
>>543308799ask the capitalists.when capitalists already have everything they ever wanted and it isn't enough, they're the problem. imagine being a filthy wealthy millionaire or someone who has even more money and power than that, but despise the idea of humanity moving up the kardashev scale. why would you give a fuck about their opinion or their life?
>>543308992infinite growth/profit is literally how cancer works. thinking infinite growth/profit can ever be an achievable thing means YOU are the one that will be roadkill because you can't do math, you get confused at climate change and pollution. since you don't live in reality, you will never understand the solution to the problems capitalism creates.
>>543308799Yes. You can democratically institute communism, but the people whose wealth you want to nationalize will immediately use some of their money to raise mercenaries, and you'll only be nationalizing wealth through violent seizure.
>>543308799Neither. Communism is imposed from an outside force. This is because communism is anathema to the faustian soul and thus will never arise naturally in a white country nor can it be maintained in a white country should that outside force ever depart.
An entire communist/socialist system or just individual programs? The people could potentially voluntarily accept the switch to communism/socialism but that would be a massive shock unless it is done over many years in phasesElecting "democratic socialist" candidates who operate just like most other cancerous politicians except with slight socialist leanings to soften the image of socialism. So on and so forth until a "democratic socialist" president who works with a "democratic socialist" Congress to install larger phases of socialist agenda. I can see it happening using promises of handouts and a change in narrative
>>543309050>infinite growth/profit is literally how cancer worksNo, I did not make that argument, you dribbling retard. I merely said communism is not a solution. It is nothing.
>>543308799Half of your politicians are commie kikes so you tell me.
>>543308799Of course it can be democratic. If the people want it and they vote for it, then the politicians simply have to make it happen.That there is no democratic communism can only mean that the People don't want it, otherwise they would have voted for it.
>>543309001To your point communism is just the same rich kike faggots ensuring humanity all sits at the bottom of the scale for no reason other than sacred fucking parity
>>543308799Frieren on the front page
>>543309235government is controlled by capitaliststhe world economy is controlled by capitalistsretard
>>543309244>communism is capitalismanother retard
>>543308799>Can communism be installed via democratic meansyes, when capitalism undermines itself to the point where Socialism is overwhelmingly popular
>commie troon thread
>>543308799It can’t be instilled at all. It violates human nature and devolves into autocracy every time without fail.
an overwhelmingly popular Socialist movement can turn off the lights and the internet. Workers have all the real power.
Workers are necessary, capitalists are not.
>>543309397>appeal to nature fallacy1) if human nature is greed and greed is bad, then why the FUCK would you want an economy that literally REWARDS greed and corruption?2) humans evolved to cooperate. we even have voice boxes and language centers of our brain to communicate so we can cooperate better.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy
>>543309397the psychopathic and even apocalyptic greed of the rich at all of humanity's expense is not "human nature" writ large
>>543309311>>543309333A very nice set of frieren reaction images
>>543308799No because communism is itself an act of enslaving the working class under the guise of empowering it. To enslave someone you must beat them.
>>543309406>Workers have all the real power.Then make an example of Sam Altman. Show that communists are not just paid crisis actors.You can't.
>>543308799Get the rope, tranny
For me its serie
>>543309684Okay, I'll make an example out of Sam Altman in October.
>>543309360Socialism isn't communism, just another step towards it. Nobody knows how to get from a socialist state to a communist society. China punted and said they want "developed socialism" by 2040, the Soviet Union never developed a coherent answer, and everyone else just copied them.The reason for this is probably that a communist society is itself a utopian fantasy. A wealthy socialist state is probably the best we'll ever do and it probably has to be Christian to be worth living in regardless of how rich it is.
>>543308799communism is just a fancy intellectual word for wrongdoing
>>543309712endless revolution
>>543309657you're describing capitalism
>>543309703Yesterday was the correct answer.
>>543309748No, October. Late October. After the 15th.
>>543309700She's a bit too edgy and boyish for my tastes desu. I like her daughter better.
>>543308799Democracy has been thoroughly hijacked by the Capitalist class and their State. Communism must first be installed by uprooting the current system and then we can have some form of representative democracy to decide who manages shit better. Without abolishment fo private property democracy will never equate to "rule of the people"
>>543308992Correct. It's not based on anything. It is a masonic / jewish tool of deception, a utopian pipe dream sold to college kids.
>>543309739It's a shame some Trotskyites and other left deviationists got away from Stalin desu. At least he BTFO'd the kikes in the end.
>>543309795I know. You can tell because they still believe in elections. Just a bunch of spoiled illiterate nepo kikes.
>>543309744Capitalism is the trading of assets. By definition capitalism itself can't be violent because you can't conduct trade through violence. Capitalism is the Brave New World to Communism's 1984.
>can only be installed in your troon gash by niggers
>>543309782>classless, stateless society>installedregardless of the contradiction in terms, you can't destroy the state because capitalists will create a new one. you have to take control of the one that already exists and modify it, then perhaps most importantly, you have to support such change on an international levelthe best way for humanity to improve is education. massive, MASSIVE education programs worldwide.
>>543309001Capitalism and communism are both just noahide laws as a political party.
>>543309712Who looks at rotting, moldy communist blok shitholes and thinks, "Yeah, that's good enough for the people."Other than Enver Hoxha, I mean.
>>543309779She's perfect to me if i was a zoomer she would be my waifu over oshino shinobu>>543309782Kill yourself jeet
>>543309845Capitalism rests on a baseline of violence, both on an individual level and a society wide level. The shop owner who bribes the police to remove competition from his street of beats up his employees is no different from the Capitalist state which uses it's army and police to keep the workers in "check" on behalf of the capitalist class
>>543309912>da joosretarded horseshoe theory but with jews?you're just as retarded as anarkiddies and liberals who say capitalism and communism are the same because both come from white people
>>543308799Violent coup is the most common method historically, but it has happened democratically in a few places, notably states in India.It ends up being shit no matter what method is used, as communism inherently denies reality and comes to the wrong conclusions on the most basic of things.
No, the state will always have a class character and any concessions given to the working class are only temporary. Sweden was the closets when it comes to trying to transition to socialism using democratic means (the Meidner plan). The idea being that workers would eventually buy out their freedom peacefully and violence would become unnecessary. It still failed as the bourgeoisie fought tooth and nail against it culminating in opening the flood gates to 70 IQ barbarians from the third world to make sure the future Swedish proletariat is too dumb, dysgenic and divided to try something like that again.
>>543309959Neither group can be taken seriously if it doesn't address the JQ. No party will have my vote until one of them caves. And they will.
>>543309845>capitalism can't be violent, anon!>no gov regulations means capitalism literally leads to monopoly every single fucking time>capitalists always seek to get rid of regulations in a government or make regulations that favor the capitalist>slavery isn't violent, anon!
>>543309942Bribing the police and beating your workers is literally illegal in most if not all capitalist societies you poonigger.
>>543309909The State is nothing but a reflection of the mode of operation of its community. What REALLY needs to be taken over are the material resources, labour and the ability to form free associations. Communities will need to actively come together, overcome their alienation and take control of land,forests, minerals, water, and labour. The Capitalist state cannot form when it's vey basis is gone. Otherwise agreed on the point about education.
>>543310003lenin, trotsky and marx all specifically opposed ethnostates, which is what israel is.the communist manifesto specifically argues against ethnostates. class consciousness, not identity politics. left wing politics do not have essentialism, which liberals on the political right have
>>543310068Shut the fuck up with your buzzwords you mealy-mouthed rodent.
>>543309484>why do you want greedI don’t. I’m stating communism does not work. Homo sapiens is incapable of implementing it.>if greed is nature, nature must be good and thus greed is good.Not my argument I don’t think it’s good. I’m stating Homo sapiens cannot implement communism. This next reply will apply to you as well:>>543309493Sorry but Homo sapiens are not bonobos. They’re not going to just “bang it out” and become peaceful. Our species is violent and warmongering and always has been. The entirety of human history proves this nature. Greed and psychopathy are not created by capitalism they are inherent to the species. When you attempt communism you require a powerful centralized governance system. This attracts psychopaths like flies to shit. No matter what you do one day they will slip through and it will devolve into autocracy.I would like it so everyone could live a life of dignity and happiness. Regardless of their financial situation. I think healthcare should be a human right. But communism does not work. Previous generations tried to use capitalism to make as functional a society as they could manage in a way that works with human nature. They did the best they could. If there’s a better way it’s going to be the harder road of creating something new that is more functional & less prone to autocracy than communism. Individual rights will need to be respected an all powerful government is just too dangerous. Democide is the leading killer of our species after all. That or wait for the species to evolve into something without greed and warmongering.
>>543309942Both communism and capitalism require a certain minimum standard of civilization that the turd world in general has yet to attain. Clearly that includes india. You cant expect bronze age savages to understand and properly understand implement the ideas of a civilization far beyond them.
>>543309845
>>543310105and capitalists have exploited and interfered in the third world
>>543309959Too bad he is correct. Communism was created by a jew and Communist governments since then were created and/or supported by jews. Finance Capitalism is run by banks and who is it that runs and operates the banks and thus capital itself?
>>543310029>illegal in most if not all capitalist societies Because you can have the state legally do the beating for you
>>543309959Again both are just noahide law bullshit. Marx was the son of a rabbi, his entire writings are nothing but applying noahide laws to society. He even made up the term capitalism to form a bullshit red vs. blue argument about communism.If you had any arguments you would use them, your ad hominem seethe just prove you lost this argument already.
>>543310105With very few exceptions every country on the planet has an industrial baseline. This is not 1826
>>543309845Capitalism is communism through private equity instead of government. Both are nothing but noahide slave systems. Capitalism is just the jews method of gaining control when the population is against them. Communism is their method when the government opposes them.
>>543310068Jews are not a monolith, they are opposing players in an international game. Israel and Soviet Russia were both operated by jews. They were also not on the same side. Marx famously loathed jews despite being demonstrably descended directly from rabbis.
>>543310029Murder is likewise also illegal and yet many American cities have one of the highest murder rates in the world. Bribery and violence are against the law of course, but laws are subjective and selectively enforced in capitalist societies. Anarcho-tyranny is the norm. American Negroes were burning down whole districts in feral rage over a convicted felon ODing on drugs and yet American police did nothing, even thou this black lumpenproletariat was committing horrific acts of violence on live TV.
>>543310146>son of a rabbihe was raised catholic and talked shit about jews>made up the term capitalismno, that was Emile Morice in 1834
>>543309782>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, India will seize the means of production >Get diploma mill exposed >Riot because scam failedLol, LMAO even
>>543310243there were pogroms before, during and after the russian revolution. there were pogroms under stalin.soviet russia broke off diplomatic relations with israel, then the capitalist west sucked israel's dick for decades after and still does despite israel's open genocide that can't be hiddenyou are fucking retarded for continuing to obsess about jews when leftist history is not just jews and the jews in leftist history specifically oppose any kind of ethnic supremacy
>>543309942Next time you try to talk about economic systems try to remove your preconceptions born from your absolute fucked up society you retarded shitjeet
>>543310343>>543310363retards with no argument
>>543308799They "did it" (by employing every jewish trick in the book) twice over here using the democratic means.
>>543310234Capitalism is the jewish subversion of Free Enterprise that centers on the buying and selling of capital. Being jewish, a significant portion of it is the manipulation of the value of said capital, which is where financing comes in. Communism is just plain old jewish parasitism. Marx was an absolute leech that considered himself to be working class and invented a system in which through collective violence he didn't necessarily have to participate in he could just get all the rich jews' land and wealth.
>>543310297>he was raised catholic and talked shit about jewsLol, his father converted to the state religion because jews where barred from being lawyers.
>>543310234>Capitalism is just the jews method of gaining control when the population is against them. Communism is their method when the government opposes them.Exactly
>>543310403blah blah black death on your mother reverse rape shiva and put a human head on ganeshaPiss off jeet
>>543310403Lol, commies defending jeets.At this point any shill pushing communism is a confirmed jeet unless expose as a jew.
>>543310363>preconceptions born from your absolute fucked up society It's how most of the world operates. And if you think yori country is free from that kind of Capitalist violence because the workers have a good enough compromise deal remember that the violence is simply exported elsewhere. Like Iraq or Palestine. And Indian shop owner beating up his poor employee is the same phenomena as American armed forces dropping napalm on vietnamese villagers.
>>543310537>*An Indian
>>543310348Leftist history is jews jewing both jews and goyim and they openly support jewish ethnic supremacy. You've either been tricked or you're conflating Liberalism with Leftism.
>>543310423Yes, that is one way of describing it. Both have the goal of centralizing the control of everything under jews. Capitalism uses jewish banking and speculation to strip the value of assets then seize these assets. Communism uses the government to seize control.
>>543310537>And Indian shop owner beating up his poor employee is the same phenomena as the alpha macaque of the troop beating the betaFify Completely irrelevant to civilization.
>>543310537European and new world societies function on the implicit threat of violence which is several degrees of separation in regards to how you treat eachother domestically or overseasYour ilk somehow manages to suprise me everyday with your abhorrent antisocial behavior so i cannot take anything you say seriously or entertain it whatsoever
>>543308799A violent revolution is inevitable.The issue is that you could probably inception the economy but the exist ruling class of Jews has more capital and thus control to power than you do.
>>543310029Eve if it is illegal the society still rests on a ore supposition of violence. Like I can just walk in and steal anything I want the police will arrest me.
>>543310680>European and new world societies function on the implicit threat of violence which is several degrees of separationThat is irrelevant to my original point about Capitalism. Sure you can pretend that your hands are clean in the bombing of Palestinian children and you can be removed from it as you want or call it a necessity on other side of the world as long as it benefits your interests. But my point stands.>Your ilk somehow manages to suprise me everyday with your abhorrent antisocialYou must meet a lot of whatever group you are referring to on a daily basis.
>>543310865>That is irrelevant to my original point about CapitalismIt isn't because you view it through the lense of indiaUnless your gripes come from a marxist perspective with indian characteristics (heh) your opinions are irrelevant since everything you say is now ran through an ethno religious filter due to the behavior of your countrymen>You must meet a lot of whatever group you are referring to on a daily basis.Must be nice coming from a position of demographic strength to make a tounge and cheek joke like that
>>543308799You are looking for the distinction between a violent revolution and a well-orchestrated purge here, comrade ...
>>543308799>is violent revolution a requirementStart with mass lobotomies
>>543308799You can install it democratically.That doesnt make it good.You can never get rid of it democratically though
>>543309050>US sanctionsIf communism is better than capitalism, why does it need to trade with capitalist countries to survive?
>>543308799Jews have chosen end stage capitalism as their golem du jour, so you're definitely not voting your way to it.
>>543309779Frieren has the best smug expressions
>>543308799America is already a communist country desu. Just different people fighting over who gets 'da gibs'
>>543309959Marx would be horrified to learn that communism only ever popped up in brown countries.He stated repeatedly in his life that he felt only germanic or Anglo stock were capable of understanding and implementing the principles of communism.He considered browns to be a subhuman race that needed to be managed like children in a communist system
>>543308799Controlled capitalism would be better. The problems now exist because no one has control over the rich who keep bringing niggers for cheap workers so they flood our countries
>>543310115Employment is a mutually agreed upon condition.If your boss treats you like shit, find a different boss.If nobody will hire you, consider that your expectations may be unrealistic.You are not a slave, your boss doesnt owe you any more than you owe him.You can leave at any time.Quit being a bitch.
>>543312798>horrified to learn that sovereign exemption-hood can be revokedWas he retarded? It has happened endlessly through history.
>>543310234This is you projecting your antisemitic worldview onto economics and has no basis whatsoever in reality.
Here are over 1000 pages that say no.
>>543309484You cannot hug people into compliance, or build a utopia, you retard. You also type like you talk, and you talk like a feminine soi.
>>543312908Stalin was barely a communist. He certainly wasnt an ideologue.Stalin was literally a street thug.I doubt he even understood socialist theory, but what he did understand was class envy and violence as a tool of power
>>543312832
>>543312908Also, appeal to human nature as the reason against socialism is wrong and retarded.
>>543313012nice. they need to be arrested and preferably sent back to their pets home countries with them
>>543312999Stalin was a true communist, if you read Kotkins work you'd know. In fact without Stalin there would've been no collectivization and the book contains multiple watertight arguments for this and Stalin's bonafides as a real Marxist Anything else is soft leftie seethe at man of steel doing what had to be done to react communism (deaths of tens of millions)
>>543312999Stalin is what every Communist country devolves into at some point. Some do it in the beginning, some do it later on, but it all happens.>"Oh you made a system where you can disappear inconvenient people through very convenient means as a possible last resort just to protect the system? Fantastic. I'm going to murder -millions-. Look at me; I am the Communism now."
>>543313074And what's more he certainly was an idealogue. He read Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Machiavelli etc he scribbled over their texts with his own comments, he edited school books, plays, he was responsible shaping for Soviet cultural output. He knew communism well, not markets, and that why he fucked up
>>543308799Technically it could. We will probably hit a point where technologically, Capitalism and market based economies make little fucking sense when everything is largely automated and production is based heavily around algorithmic predictions of peoples behaviour, such a technological level is already here in many industries (look at fast fashion) and it will likely take over swaths of the economy within the next 30-50 years. I do not believe large scale Agriculture for example, will be largely human intensive by even 2055, it will mostly be automated through central hubs. When this happens, Socialism/Communism is basically just an ideological change from a Capitalist market based economy made around profit, for using these technologies to remove most people's need for tedious intensive labour and providing basic goods for everyone with something like Labour/civic vouchers being used for luxury goods, travel etc.That said, will Capitalists and those in power allow such a transition to happen? Lets be real, the shift from Feudalism to Capitalism was not rosey at all. Numerous revolutions, wars, purges, mass executions, liberal rebellions, nationalist rebellions, fascism, luddism etc. The even peaceful, market solutions of Sweden Meidner Plan and NZ's Socialist Social Democracy both came under massive attack and were eventually completely dismantled, both with Rogernomics in NZ and Bildt in Sweden by the late 1980s.
>>543308799Neither, picrel is two lads creating their own means of production which they can choose to distribute as they wish. Unless by communists you mean those thieves who enslave the farmers while themselves sit on their asses, larp as intellectuals and expect others to work for them and feed them, that has been tried already but failed for obvious reasons.
PS. Stalin is probably the most inspirational and motivational example of an person that has ever existed. The example of indomitable Faustian spirit "If Stalin had died, the likelihood of forced wholesale collectivization—the only kind—would have been near zero, and the likelihood that the Soviet regime would have been transformed into something else or fallen apart would have been high. “More than almost any other great man in history,” wrote the historian E. H. Carr, “Stalin illustrates the thesis that circumstances make the man, not the man the circumstances.”43 Utterly, eternally wrong. Stalin made history, rearranging the entire socioeconomic landscape of one sixth of the earth. Right through mass rebellion, mass starvation, cannibalism, the destruction of the country’s livestock, and unprecedented political destabilization, Stalin did not flinch. Feints in the form of tactical retreats notwithstanding, he would keep going even when told to his face by officials in the inner regime that a catastrophe was unfolding—full speed ahead to socialism. This required extraordinary maneuvering, browbeating, and violence on his part. It also required deep conviction that it had to be done. Stalin was uncommonly skillful in building an awesome personal dictatorship, but also a bungler, getting fascism wrong, stumbling in foreign policy. But he had will. He went to Siberia in January 1928 and did not look back. History, for better and for worse, is made by those who never give up."
>>543313141This is the most reasonable stanceEventually economic automation reaches a point where conventional capitalism stops making senseEven if its not implemented there comes a point where states have to ask why its not being done and begin forcing the matter
>>543308799You just described democratic socialism, and no, Marx explicitly spoke out against it
> deciding of flavor of "socialism"- 1930s level depression approaching., nothing's gonna save you.- you're just rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic.You're gonna have to PolPot every person who 'owns shares' first decade in the depression.
>>543309484The truth that nether side will ever acknowledge is that nature is survival of the fittest. Some times that is stupid niggers and intellectual whites some times that is mutual aid and some times is rabid self interest.. Either way neither side truly wants to live "naturally, nore should we. That's retarded.
>>543308799Idk but I want bdsm sex with frieren
>>543312832Its not possible. The reason they can do this is because they have money and money under capitalism is everything. Everything has a price tag including the extinction of the white race
>>543314700>>543314699Both checked both at the same second wow >>543314700
>>543314700agreed- white nationalists- commies- trannies- jews- niggers- chinks.. everyone will unite to rape your babies and erase your people .. if you threaten 'capitalism'.and this is why infinite-growth will doom everyone.
>>543312879>Na uhSo you have no argument.
>>543314763Damn I've literally never seen that before kek
>>543310146Marx was a German devout Christian
>>543313223Inspirational. If anything he was pretty restrained when it comes to killing people given the enemies he faced who would've sold his country to foreign Capitalism and eventually did so decades after his death
There were multiple schools of thought about it and the multiple International assemblies gathered to argue about it. Historically reformists and revolutionaries had a huge falling out that never properly mended and communists like to blame this failure for them only ever managing to get it instituted by dictators in shitholes.
>>543312695This seems to be an inherent flaw of communism. Your nation still has to produce stuff of measurable value to trade for stuff the inevitably don't have locally so capitalistic trade still runs things in the end, u just create a pocket dimension of shittier living standards and less innovation while spending more time on admin. Just start with capitalism.
>>543310029Good thing the government would never do anything illegal and punish the people who break the law, then!
Not necessarily violent. I think there have been examples of governments collapsing simply from public pressure. But yes, I don't see a way for a state to follow the communist path while its foundations and mechanisms are all of the previous mode. I'm not equipped with the philosophical jargon for this, but something something a thing can't observe, much less overhaul its very means to observe things or something to that effect.
>>5433090502010 was back there kiddo, lol you watched ZeitgeistI love when retarded pleb kids find out about FIAT currencyyou are stupid kid, dont get involved
Communism is not socialism.I don't remember the part in this 30 minute interview, but I remember Salvador Allende saying clearly that he, the founder of the socialist party in Chile, had differences with Moscow because he proposed a non-violent path to socialism.https://youtube.com/watch?v=PYPVTuSP-KcMeanwhile, the chilean communist party did everything in their path to boycot a peaceful way.Did you know Pinochet didn't forbid communism? In his famed 8th article of 1980 constitution, he banned political parties who were based in violence and chilean commies will never betray the marxist-leninist principles of war between the poor and the rich. >>543309050Our coup was indeed backed by the US by the fact remains that both idiologic halves of the country deeply hated each other and by this point violence was the only solution.
>>543311109My point is that violence is violence. And the particular motivation for violence that comes from Capitalism is universal.
>>543308799Communism cannot be installed. Those at the top pushing it know it cannot be installed and they do not intend to install it. The idea of communism is bait used to convince useful idiots to revolt and overthrow power structures so the useful idiots' puppetmasters can then take over and enslave everyone. The useful idiots then become the first lined up against the wall and shot.The theory is that things progress from capitalism to socialism to communism. Socialism is the necessary middle step which involves a large, powerful central government redistributing wealth. A large, powerful central government is necessary to redistribute wealth, forcefully, since people generally don't want to give up their own shit.Once a government becomes large and powerful enough to redistribute wealth, it will do the same thing every fucking time: use its own power to enrich itself and further strengthen and entrench its own power. Once things reach this stage, the government will not willingly relinquish power and the populace will be too poor and too tightly controlled to be able to effectively overthrow the government.Communism, by definition, completely lacks a central government. However, a central government large and powerful enough to enforce income redistribution will not relinquish its own power and it will not be overthrown. It will enslave the population. Every time.Communism cannot be installed. It is impossible.
>>543308799you can't work freely, even if it gets installed because people are retarded and vote for it, eventually someone will want to work for others or trade stuff, the "collective" will disagree and there will be violence.
>>543312798>>543320390Communism has never been instituted in any country and it never will be.Communism is essentially one giant hippie commune. No government. An entire country's people working together and cooperating without greed and without a government to force them to behave.It's fucking impossible. It's not even possible in an all-white or all-East Asian society, let alone a society with other races. It's very obviously strongly contradictory to human nature.
>>543308992correct, it's just hardcore statism were a small group "inner circle" control everything and only do what's good for themselves at the cost of the country and "outer circle".
>>543308799It will never work because it ignores human emotions.Making a society where everyone is "equal" means almost everyone sacrifices some part of themselves so someone else is "happy", this in turn creates a society where everyone feels like shit constantly while at the same time those in power live like Gods because they need to "maintain the perfect system".You think you want it because it sounds great on paper but if you ever experience it in real life you soon begin to beg for literally anything else.
Frieren is the cutest babaelf
What's worse, commies or shitbulls?
>>543325100>while at the same time those in power live like Gods because they need to "maintain the perfect system".That's not communism.
>>54332403520:47
>>543325185Fuck off
>>543327323No u
>>543314383>nothing's gonna save you.won't need saving bot, plenty of guns beans and organized farmsteads in America, just show up in shape ready to work and shoot.
>>543308799christian communism maybelike with infinite bread and fish and miracles
>>543325447>muh thats not real gommunizm!It always without fault ends up like that and it always will so might aswell accept that it IS in fact a staple of communism.
>>543330943Communism, by definition, lacks a central government.I don't mean it in the "muh real gommunizm has never been tried, let's try it!" way.I mean it in the "real communism has never been instituted and never will because the idea is just bait" way.
>>543329472>communism + niggers and shitskins.That's like exponentially worse than either of those seperate.The only system that humans can live relatively good in is a Benevolent Empire with an autocratic Emperor whose family inherits the throne.This forces them to keep a relatively normal nation as their own blood needs to continue living in it.It's not perfect but it is by far superior to anything else and has been since the dawn of civilization until globohomo ruined it and pushed demoncracy, communism and similar onto nations in order to subvert them.
>>543331119Ah ok my bad then, you are correct.
