How every Ukrainian counteroffensive ends
>>543317711It can't even be called counteroffensive, it's pure retardation. Those are empty fields, usually manned with 2 dudes per field, who _talk_ to the same 2 dudes from the other side. So when hohols decided to target those useless fields instead of saving their kin from 2 cauldrons in actual towns, those couple dozen of poor dudes were murdered, which sure sucks for them, but it's just as easy to take everything back.
>>543317711So all the /ugh/ spamming this last week was for nothing?
I'm retarded.Can someone give me the QRD
>>543318965Russia lost Ukraine won
>>543317711Why is Russia only like 2 miles from where it was in 2023
>>543317711kek
>>543318073>instead of saving their kin from 2 cauldrons in actual townsIt's been 4,6 years. How many Ukrainian troops have you actually trapped in pockets throughout the war (or SMO if the KGB knocks on your door for saying the nono word) ?
>>543318073wow
>>543319219There literally isn't many troops. Russians are fighting robots. Remember mrnograd and all the other "encrlirclements"Ops picrel is maybe 500 soldiers on that entire front line. The entire war is literally hide and go seek and capture the flag because of drones
>>543319255LoL, LMAO even. No one has said that Russia could take Europe. The enemy likes to fantasize about it though
Anyone who even believes that this is a real war and not a depopulation of Slavic White men is a fucking idiot.
>>543318073>le cauldronsLmao
>>543319027This but the other way around
>>543319108Because history repeats, beginning of the 20th century had slow trench warfare(you have drones today), the next big world proxy war will have robot blitzkrieg
>>543319366Cool, leave NATO
>>543319219The only time they encircled and destroyed a large unit was Mariupol.
>>543319367As if slavs arent the biggest landgrabbing bastards in Europe
>>543317711Wtf I read 3 days ago that the Ukraine has re-entered Lugansk and about to capture Yam-polNafosisters?
>>543317711the 1991 borders are gone forever and never coming back under any circumstance ever
>>543317711So, Ukrainians fuck Russians too slow and weak? They need to maul them quicker and stronger?
>>543319549This war continues until the European Boomer class dies of old age.
>>543319449The problem with that is that Russia might be dumb enough to attack us then thinking that we would be easy pickings>Si vis pacem, para bellum
>>543319583No, dear Mykola in exile avoiding the draft. The only one fucking Ukrainians is the Ukrainian president.
>>543319708Yeah you would literally be annihilated your military has no idea how to fight this new war and you don’t have the people to sustain casualties
>>543317711Figuring out how Ukrainians operate or any semblance of logic in strategy will always be a mystery to everyone here but the most retarded like those on /uhg/Like pic related. There were almost 2000 soldiers in this cauldron, you could've evacuated this worthless territory for 2 months, but refused, ordering those troops to hold to death.Any person who IQ is above room temperature would be confused, saying "why the fuck would you do that?" but the shills will just tell you it's part of the plan or justify it "We wuz defending ourz lands n'shiet."Ukraine is nationalistic suicide cult, led by Zelensky who believes that west will magically save them and the retards who took "to the last ukrainian" seriously
>>543318906>So all the /ugh/ spamming this last years was for nothing?ftfy
>>543320016>>543319367How many Ukranians are even left? Russia needs only to make a drone for every last man, woman, and child. They're probably getting close at this point. The meat catchers beat up a holhol in the street, hand cuff him, transport him to the front line, and leave him there to die by a Russian drone. There's definitely faster and cheaper ways to genocide a country, but imagine all the precious weapons data they're collecting! At least the Ukrainian genocide will help the real Europeans of NATO continue to fight Russia in the future. To the last Ukrainian!
>>543319964You don't know shit. Per capita we have the most volunteers in Ukraine after Estonia (with many being officers due to our reserve structure) and they have bought their experience back. Our reserves number almost 1 million and our forested terrain makes fiber optic drones useless here.Also because we are only interested in defending ourselves it would be ziggers throwing themselves at our prepared lines. The best part is that the Leningrad NPP has the last RBMK reactors in operation so if Putin is dumb enough to strike our power plants we could reciprocate in a cruel manner.
>>543319708So you admit you’re wrestling with two conflicting beliefs?
>>543320387Nah you are counting your obese autists and middle aged fat women as soldiers for some reason you are delusional
>>543318073what are cauldrons?
>>543319219>>543319366>>543320387>T. Ethnic Finns who will number only a million by 2100
>>543317711>>543318073>>543319366why are Slavs so bad at war?
>>543320620Bigger 2/3 of countries have bellow replacement birthrate.Even in Africa it's falling
>>543320387>our forested terrain makes fiber optic drones useless here.you just outed yourself as knowing even less than shitwell done, retarded mongol
>>543320732Most aren't annihilating their demographics via immigration this hard though. Iirc even Canada doesn't have projections this grim.
>>543320667>Valerii>ValeriyNPC WAR its Kiev
>>543320488We know that we will win the war without NATO, but we also can't be sure that Russia understands this due to how highly they think of themselves. Thus we have to make it obvious for them that we can't be invaded to avoid war.>>543320557We have been conscripting the entire male population since 1917 (my own role is to give coordinates for artillery) but keep coping that you will meet fat women on the front Semenovitch, it will net us more kills in inital stage.>>543320595Russian and German term for pockets/encirclements. Motti in Finnish>>543320620As if Russians had higher birthrates. We at least have the advantage that our minorities haven't managed to carve our their own fiefdoms like Chechnya in Russia. >>543320760Do tell how I am wrong if I am wrong.
>>543319219There were no satellites in WW2. Pockets seldom happen when you have perfect satellite intelligence, because you can see any encirclement attempt well before it happens and send reserves to block it. However, if you, for some reason, decide to divert reserves elsewhere...
>>543320956>>>543320595 (You)>Russian and German term for pockets/encirclements. Motti in FinnishThanks. In English we might say "crucible" but it's more of a poetic term for us.
>>543320956>Having historically conquered geographically spread out minorities is the same as having so much immigration you turn into a minority in your own countryPsychosis.
>>543319708A Russian attack on Finland likely wouldn't be because of perceived "easy pickings", it would be because you signed up to automatically participate in a NATO-Russia war.
>>543320291>! At least the ukrainian genocide will help the real Europeans of NATO continue to fight Russia in the future.biggest problem is...."REAL" nato countries literally dont have militariesthey are entirely unstaffed ghost rosters of equipment and capabilities that exist solely on paper (and that 'paper' is from 2010 or something)(((nato))) is a theoretical on-paper entity, and nothing more
>>543320667The battle of Kyiv ended because Ukraine begged for peace and Macron told Putin that to make the peace deal easier they should turn 360 and go back, it was not a military victory, Ukraine hasn't won a single battle in this war
>>543320387Leningrad NPP is 60km from St Petersburg. I don't think it be very effective to blow it up, especially not if it had been preemptively defueled.A NATO-Russia would likely turn nuclear anyway
>>543319708>The problem with that is that Russia might be dumb enough to attack us then thinking that we would be easy pickings>>543321286>it would be because you signed up to automatically participate in a NATO-Russia war.i cant even imagine the savaging that meglomaniac balts are going to get by the hands of Russia (theyll deserve it too)the shocking wake-up call will come in the form of a smug, mocking BBC™ news segment where some buck toothed brit makes arrogant jokes about Russian shoveled armed drunks while estonians and fins get blasted into jackson-pollock style spray patterns on every wall and cieling not vaporized in the FAB detonation or jet-Geran impact
>>543320956>carve our their own fiefdoms like ChechnyaFucking drooling retard nigger, Chechnya is a nation not immigrants.
>>543321286At this point NATO is Europe due to US unpredictability and there is nothing we could hope to gain by invading Russia, nor do we have the strength to pull it off. Likewise Russia doesn't have the strength to invade Europe.Try to remember that during the cold war tensions were even higher than now and the power balance was in Russias favor yet war still didn't start, even with Stalin as the leader of the USSR.
It’s an old battleground at this point it’s the fourth sweep that Russia is tasked with making towards and past lyman, the kursk thing was more effective at making Russia balk from the other frontlines.
>>543321422>The battle of Kyiv ended because Ukraine begged for peace and Macron told Putin that to make the peace deal easier they should turn 360 and go back, it was not a military victory, Ukraine hasn't won a single battle in this warlmao, and that was almost precisely 48hrs into>"no nato satellite intel for ukraine"and as the debacle after zelenskys white house trip showed with their little kursk kikery invasion, the instant the plug is pulled on said nato satellite intel, ukikes go blind and fold up like wet paper towel
Why are ziggers crying again? Something got hit?
>>543319461They didn't destroy them they captured them and traded them for a jew. including the leader of azov aka the big boogeyman
>>543321536>Likewise Russia doesn't have the strength to invade Europe.they absolutely do, and europe sent the totality of 50+ years of nato equipment aquisitions to be detonated by lancets 4 years ago, and nothing replaced it nor ever will"nato" exists on paper onlyno european nation has the capability of fielding a single full strength combined arms brigade. NOT ONEyou faggots would be overrun in a literal instantthe fact you still believe otherwise is all the proof anyone in london needs at how wildly successful their decades of propaganda was turning you balts into a slave race of meat to die by Russian fires
>>543321497I think the biggest problem Finns and Balts need to worry more about is that, due to the legacy of the INF treaty, they are in range of a disproportionately large share of the Russian nuclear arsenal compared to, say, the French of the Brits or the Italians. Russia has a large number of nuclear-capable missiles with <500km range, and so the Finns and Balts might be disproportionately subjected to nuclear bombardment.
>>543321623>Something got hit?ukraines male population^so now theyre on to the women(many such cases)
>>543321217>>543321521Must've hit a nerve. Are russians afraid of a 3rd Chechen war that could start after a defeat in Ukraine?>>543321497>blah blah blah we will crush us you with FAB *spruits* and Geran superweaponsIt's like a chihuahua barking when you still haven't taken the Donbass despite being a supposed superpower and having almost 5 years to work at it.
>>543321686You got raped by the poorest country in europe and are fantasizing about grand offensives against NATO. This is both hilarious and sad as fuck
>>543321536>NATO is Europe>Shill doesn't know NATO has always been led by a US generalWhy don't you educate yourself about what SACEUR is.
>>543317711May we see the evidence?
>>543319219Hundreds of thousands were fed INTO the Bahkmut pocket alone. This gave rise to a meme of bart Simpson “nothing beats the pocket”>>543319367If thats not a war, WTF is it??? >>543320387>forested terrain makes fiber optic drones uselessAre you retarded? Wait saw you flag. You are retarded. Carry on. But you might want to watch the tens of thousands of videos of FPV drones (mostly fiber) hunting through forests).
>>543321745lmao, zero nukes will be needed to neutralize piss-drinking yapping baltsall the brotherly reservation Russia showed ukraine throughout this conflict not wanting to create a literal failed state of 30+million on their actual front doorstep wont exist for seething yapping deluded balts, and Russia will go straight for the jugular on them and completely decapitate their power, airports, bases etc. you name it.balts will be completely blasted into the stone age, and it will be a double dog triple dare to sweeden (who will stand down) to facilitate whatever dumbshit rabble response balts cobble together (that wont do shit anyway)there is a serious major refusal to accept that 90% of "nato" is a on-paper only, and none of these capabilities exist in real life
>>543321759So how do you feel about being outnumbered by migrants five to one?
>>543320016That 'cauldron' only exists in russian commanders minds. Here is what's actually happening there. Backed by geolocated video evidence. It's a complete fabrication. Just as the dobropillya 'encirclement' is. Pootin is commanding ghost armies. Not a good sign for ziggers.
>>543321801>>543321759>It's like a chihuahua barking when you still haven't taken the Donbass despite being a supposed superpower and having almost 5 years to work at it.the 1991 borders are gone forever and nothing and no one will ever bring them back ever>>543321838>May we see the evidence?yes, you may (pic related)
>>543321936>So how do you feel about being outnumbered by migrants five to one?they fucking love it, and want more
>>543317711Confirmed or cope?
>>543321931Well that's pretty unlikely, the Russians are not a very hateful people. The Balts would probbaly just surrender. Finland has a much larger army but also lacks strategic depth to retreat so it would end up being much more interesting.
>>543321987Your territory is getting bombed daily by the poorest country in europe that the mighty superpower is unable to defeat for 5 years of 2 day SMO
>>543321536>during the cold war tensions were even higher than nowNot true. During the Cold War, proxies did not attack the heartland of a principal entity. The Soviets didn't give ICBM knock-down kits to the NVA, and the Americans didn't give Tomahawk knock-down kits to the Mujahideen.Russia obviously doesn't want a war with NATO, but it will likely feel compelled to act due to the bombardment-by-proxy that is currently ongoing. It's not sustainable to accept that opponents can shoot at Russia's heart while Russians can only shoot at a bullet sponge that no one actually cares about. Russia can accept it temporarily while it stocks up on IRBMs, but eventually it needs to do something to reestablish a deterrence that ensures adherence to the traditional red lines.A NATO-Russia war likely wouldn't be see any Russian ground invasion except perhaps for minor border regions; it would mainly be a drone/missile exchange.
>>543322009Proper pronoun here would be 'you', and yes I love BBC.
>>543321623They are being routed in many regions of the front. They are in complete dissaray. Over 1000km of russian captured lands has been liberated by Ukraine and there is no sign of them stopping.
>>543318965Russia spends a year + taking some ground and tens of thousands of men, Ukraine retakes it in a few months because Russia is shit at war.
>>543322059>. Finland has a much larger armylmao..than who?you /k/ niggers cant be serious...so you think finkikes military is larger than Russia?its larger than ukraine?whos military do you believe finland is larger than??>>543322068the 1991 borders are gone forever and nothing will ever bring them back. ukraine can send every last male to die for absolutely nothing, it wont change a single foot of the 1991 borders eternally being gone
>>543321422>it wasnt a military victoryIt quite clearly was. Because the generals on the russian side were dumb enough to trust the Ukranians. Same shit as when the brits gave the turks cogs dipped in opium then slaughtered the turks in their stupor after the turks stupidly smoked the cigs.>>543321536>NATO is EuropeLmao, you guys have fucking nothing. The air defense? US. The planes? US made. The tanks? Basically dont exist. You navy? Basically doesnt exist. Your armored vehicles? Largely US made. Without the US, ALL of Europe has significantly less military capability than UKRAINE. Turns out deindustrializing your countries was a terrible idea.
>>543322102What do you think the Iranian missile program is?
>>543321849>Hundreds of thousands were fed INTO the Bahkmut pocket alone. This gave rise to a meme of bart Simpson “nothing beats the pocket”Are you referring to Mariupol in the first months of the war or some other instance? When did this happen, give me a date.>videos of FPV drones (mostly fiber) hunting through forestsUkraine doesn't have forests in the combat sectors. They have patches of trees in between fields to mark land boundaries. While Ukraine is 98% open fields and 2% forests our country is 2% fields, 90% forests and 8% lakes and swamps.
>>543321987>yes, you mayThat's not evidence. Show dated geolocated footage to confirm russian soldiers are present in your so called kharkiv cauldron. I will wait.
>>543322165I meant that Finland has a much larger army than the Balts......
>>543322165>the 1991 borders are gone foreverNope. They will be reinstated sooner than anyone thinks.
>>543322165Why is russia getting bombed daily by and retreating from the poorest country in europe?
>>543322166And you think the US military stockpiles are in any better condition?
>>543322239Russia has been retreating consistently since 2022.
>>543322059>Finland will be more interestingNo it wont. You’re stuck on your own, without anything approaching sufficient manpower, without sufficient equipment and ordinance, in unfavorable geography. The current bloodied AFU could roll you guys easy. And Russia who is grinding them down wont have trouble grinding you down.Quantity matters. And you dont have the quantity.
>>543322106>Proper pronoun here would be 'you', and yes I love BBC.lmao, /k/ niggers and their retarded balt shit eaters english lessons to Americans will never not be as pathetic as it is fucking stupid.but yah good luck conjugating verbs against Russia! we'll be cheering for your .webms of you dying hilariously to FPV drones on wires and dirtbike troops or whatever funny shit Russia uses on you
>>543322166Nigger did you forget that you stopped aiding Ukraine more than a year ago? All the aid to Ukraine is being done by Europe and our MIC is expanding because we know that we can't trust you anymore. Pretty strange to throw away your empire like that but at least Xi is happy
Russia managed to occupy 27% of Ukraine. Roughly 160,000km2.They now hold around 18% of Ukraine. Roughly 115,000km2.After almost 5 years Russia has LOST 45,000km2 of their blitzkrieg gains.Absolute fucking clown show.
>>543322068>bombed by the poorest country on EarthWeird way to spell Yemen. And why do you credit Ukraine when US/Euro drones/missiles are launched from primarily US/Euro airspaces against targets determined by US ISR, most likely even fired by US/Euro personnel? I mean NATO is up to their gills in this conflict and how obvious it is proves Putin is a cuck for refusing to hit NATI directly. Hell he wont even down the drones in the black sea!
>>543322243>And you think the US military stockpiles are in any better condition?lmao, were 6000 miles away. youre sitting under Russias anus, and the past 4 decades have been spent turning every man, woman and childs brain in your region to fucking soup via propaganda to die brutally on behalf of london>>543322239>>543322271Russia fights a defensive war off its own soil while ukraine wages never ending offensive to recapture 1991 borders that are eternally gone forever
>>543322166>the generalsIt was literally orders from Putin, he rationally expected this to go like GeorgiaUkraine commiting national suicide in this way is actual insanity that will be studied by future generations
>>543322102Russia could fuck off from Ukraine today and the war would be over next week. They started the bombardment with the shaheds and now they bitch and moan when it comes back to them.They're continuing this just to save face and are strategically in a much worse situation than before starting the war since it led us to joining NATO.
>>543322298>No it wont. You’re stuck on your own, without anything approaching sufficient manpower, without sufficient equipment and ordinance, in unfavorable geography. The current bloodied AFU could roll you guys easy. And Russia who is grinding them down wont have trouble grinding you down.>Quantity matters. And you dont have the quantity.not only this, there is zero industry in europe to sustain any of thisthey cant even make cheap plastic drones>>543322332>All the aid to ukraine is being done by Europe and our MIC is expanding because we know that we can't trust you anymore.as a result ukraine is being slaughtered at such record rates, balt nations have to seriously consider strategic evacuations of their populations noweurope cant even supply cheap drones, there is zero industry for anything in europe. there is simply nothing but nato stockpiles from the 80's that are all but non-existent now
>>543322434Why would Russia go faster when the current slow and steady method eliminates any chance of insurgency by wiping out Ukrainian manpower?
>>543322434the 1991 borders are gone forever. ukraine will never under any circumstance recover even a single foot of the 1991 borders
>>543320016>Ukraine is nationalistic suicide cultPrecisely, and this was orchestrated and being run by the US directly. The moves they are making only makes sense if you understand America's overarching goals. They don't want to win this, they just want to bog down Russia as long as they can. They order 2000 men to not retreat, but stay and fight to the death, because it makes it that much harder for Russia to advance. They are throwing Ukrainian men into the meat grinder without a second thought.
>>543322515Has the shill educated itself about what SACEUR is already?
>>543322553>slow and steady methodIs this what they call TZD now? Lmao
>>543321936Would probably feel pretty bad if I was outnumbered by migrants five to one. The one good thing about monke and his american counterpart is that they have fucked up the energy economy so now our countries are much less enticing to browns than before, and normies are being removed from the goyslop cycle due to lowering standards of living
>>543322452>Russia fights a defensive war off its own soil while ukraine wages never ending offensive to recapture 1991 borders that are eternally gone foreverahahahahahahahahahahyou retards are so fucking pathetic. Not even the Jeets think you are fighting an defensive war.
>>543322170Domestic, with some historical assistance from North Korea. You can see yourself on satellite imagery the factories where the missiles are made from scratch.Shahrud missile plant: 36°14'04"N 55°16'53"EKhojir missile plant: 35°41'39"N 51°36'37"EKhojir underground section, which is likely still operating: 35°39'58"N 51°38'35"EFor comparison, the equivalent facility producing Ukraine's FP-7 and FP-9 missiles is located in Denmark. This facility also produces rocket boosters for the FP-5, which uses a guidance system made by Safran and engines made by Honeywell (stocks of Al-25 engines apparently ran out).https://t.me/mod_russia_en/29600https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2026/07/07/l-ukraine-arsenal-du-monde-libre-un-projet-encore-embryonnaire-bride-par-les-ambivalences-des-allies_6721417_3210.htmlUkraine's own factories producing Hrim-2 and Korshun missiles and relevant components were destroyed long ago.Furthermore, it's very relevant to note that Iran has had a moratorium on missiles of greater than 2000km range, meaning it cannot reach most of Europe, and certainly not CONUS. Even supposing Iran has longer range missiles, it hasn't used them to attack Europe or CONUS.
>>543322515>Russia could just walk away!!!holy absolute fuck, the propaganda they cummed into your baltic mouths is insane>"Russia can end this war in 5 minutes by simply 'leaving'>"Russia can just walk away! and realize Putin has failed and embarrassed him self bigtime in front of everyone!">"If Russia leaves, the war is over, If ukraine leaves, ukraine will no longer exist">"Putin has already lost, and he must realize this, he has been embarrassed, and looks bad, so I think there will be a destablization of the Russian government, he will be jailed, and a new more 'sensible' western-frierndly government will take over, seeing the error of Putins ways. the 'rules based international liberal order' even" >"ukraine will be restored to the 1991 borders, and Putin will step down, and only then will talks begin">"Russia must realize it has LOST and Putin must stand trial for his crimes">"also, Russia will give up some of its territory&resources as reparations to the eu for the damage it caused"^its some of the most unbelieveably negligent, childishly obstinant and cognitively dissonant 'demands' imaginable to any "peace process" in the history of post war negotiationsthe sociopathic bibilical-scale arrogance & hubris of the ukraine and people like sikorskiwill become a monument to the collossal arrogance of the most brain addled,mis-informed and manipulated puppets in the history of statehood
>>543322553>the current slow and steady method eliminates any chance of insurgency by wiping out Ukrainian manpower?This new retreating method doesn't appear to be working.
>>543322621Yes the guy is American, a relic from the cold war when USA amounted for 99% of NATO and actually threatened to start nuclear hellfire if the USSR invaded Germany. What do you think will happen to this posting now that Trump signals that he won't honor his commitments?
>>543322688Furthermore, all of what Iran does is funded by Iran's own money that it earned through normal economic activity. No one is donating money to Iran. Ukraine, on the other hand, is largely funded by foreign donations and "loans".
>>543322717Russia will walk away eventually. They have no voice. They cannot hold the tiny strip of Ukraine they managed to take. The drones aren't going to stop.
>>543322639I'll be honest I don't think it's very productive to continue this discussion because you really don't seem to understand the relation between NATO, Europe, and the US. Look up what SACEUR is, maybe you'll wisen some.>>543322688My point was that if Russia wants to escalate providing weapons and intel to Iran are far more productive for it than bombing Germany whose industry is in the gutter anyway.
>>543322653ukraine is on endless offensive to recapture the 1991 borders. Russia is on endless creeping defensive to shatter ukraines ability to aggress^facts>>543322801Russia is never going to walk away, and it will never NOT be hilarious that londons final threat is that ukraine will simply become a terrorist nation that never-endingly suicide strikes Russia in 'revenge acts'...and this is some kind of 'threat' or strategy on natos behalfthe war will end, the 1991 borders are gone forever, ukraine WILL sign their surrender documents and london will be fabbed into the dark ages if they think they will feed ukrainian terrorism post war
>>543317711>>543318073
>>543318073Almost like this is a totally fake war and im tired of slavs pretending
>>543322434Who cares about km2? It's the goyim meat, which needs to be used as fertilizer for the New Khazaria.
>>543322723So.... why is every Ukrainian male 18-70 running for their lives away from recruiters if the Ukrainian manpower situation is as rosy as you say?
>>543322884all of europe is functionally "DEAD" in every meaningful industrial wayall Russia would have to do is strike a few lense-making companies, and a few machine-tool making companies in europe, and that would be the end of the existing european high tech production keeping its collective economy afloatits literally one or two buildings and its globally over for europe....and europe already set the precedent for doing this by enabling ukikes with stormshadows then acting like niggers and pretending they were le flamingos!!!Russia "owes" europe some 1:1 payback on basically every single one of you retards soil for what you did in this war
>>543322717Never said anything about dragging Putin in front of the hague, of giving back Crimea to Ukraine or about Russia paying sanctions. That's just your straw manning since you don't want to face the issue honestly.A realistic end to the war is a Korea war type ceasefire where both sides proclaim victory and remain tense with each other, yet the fighting stops. Putin can proclaim that Russia is a great superpower that defended the Rodina and Crimea against all of NATO and Zele probably gets ousted in a month since he doesn't have an excuse to postpone elections anymore.It would be a win win really.
>>543319211Are the lives of average Russians better now because of the war?
>>543323006where is *this* on the scale for ukraine?bargaining? or denial?
>>543318073What was the point of the Kursk chimpout? Something important there?>inb4 THD
>>543323090And yet the absolute dregs that fight for russia are somehow worse lmao. Really tells you a lotSigning away your life to get droned for 30k€ does not really give you a morale boost on the battlefield
>>543322789>>543322884You need to improve your reading comprehension.
>>543322884To help Iran bombing economic targets in Israel and GCC countries would damage Russia's relations with those countries.There's a reason Iran is shooting anti-ship missiles at US warships hundreds of kilometers out, but can't target static ship-to-ship transfers in the Gulf of Oman; China and Russia refuse to provide targeting data on civilian targets.
>Be Russia>2022>We've won all their men are dead>2023>We've won all their men are dead>2024>We've won all their men are dead>2025>We've won all their men are dead>2026>We've won all their men are dead>MFW Russia is fighting the ghosts of Kyiv
>>543323212The fact that you admit Russia can get by with volunteers while Ukraine has press gangers like some fucking Napoleonic navy is such an own goal.
>>543323309How are they getting by when their territory is getting bombed 5 years into 2 day SMO?Are you fucking serious lmfao, actual zigger bot
>>543323309Russia started mobilisation in 2022 and never stopped. Look it up.
>>543323165>A realistic end to the war is a Korea war type ceasefire where both sides proclaim victory and remain tense with each other, yet the fighting stops. Putin can proclaim that Russia is a great superpower that defended the Rodina and Crimea against all of NATO and Zele probably gets ousted in a month since he doesn't have an excuse to postpone elections anymore.no it isnt you nigger, this faggotry is exactly why the war is being foughtunder no circumstance will nato or london be allowed to set up some "DMZ" or some special forever-war military zone on Russias bordersthis war is a complete continent wide demilitarization of europe, to forever preclude any possiblity of that, complete with the US itself leaving its military presence behind in both europe and the middle eastukraine has already vowed it will never accept any scenario where it doesnt not leave with the 1991 borders, THUS ukraine will be cleansed of its male population untill whoever is left is willing ready and able to accept the new reality where the 1991 borders are gone forever, there is no nato DMZ and the ukrainian future is simply lowering and watching its tone when it speaks to Russia, so nothing like this ever happens again...thats how this ends
>>543323227I'll be honest I think you need to improve your comprehension of really everything.>>543323235There's strong evidence implying Russia is providing targeting intel to Iran, Hezbollah and Ansar Allah. That and they're happy to sell weapons to Iran.
>>543323212>Russia can send literal human garbage convicts to willingly fight for victory+freedom (or death)meanwhile>ukraine has do buss-gang its entire male population on prison busses to the frontline, to die graphically via drone or FAB within minutes, 30k per monthand this is somehow "wining" to you for ukraine...?
>>543317711>1 pbtid
>>543323357Mobilization of reservists and forced conscription of untrained civilians is not the same thing.
>>543323444>That and they're happy to sell weapons to Iran.LMAO, nato propaganda is confusing>Russia and Iran are each selling eachother the same exact weapons they both produce and use depending on which side of the nafo/jew conflict you are onbased and hilarious propaganda messaging disaster
When will proUkrandans show me a single solitary ronery JUST one corpse exchange where the Ukranians give more Russian corpses to the Russians than the Ukranian corpses they receive, why is every single corpse exchange 30 Russians for 1000 Ukranians?Ukraine is said by the entire west to have turned the tide and non-stop taking land yet they can't bother looking good in a corpse exchange a SINGLE time???
>>543322717Russia can walk away and Putin can walk out of the window. You have to draw a line between Russia and Putin if you don't want to fuck up even more If you think one retard playing Caesar is more important than the future of the country then this is what you deserve
>>543323376Russia couldn't project power more than 100km across it's own border into the poorest country in Europe. After 5 fucking years. This ends with 1991 borders. Simple as.
>>543323471Dude the Ukrainians aren't getting 30k :DDDDD Aren't they literally refusing to do corpse exchange because that lets them count losses as MIA and cheap out on paying the relatives?
>>543323511ukraine collapsed in 48hrs and sat that way for 4 months while boris and london hemmed and hawed out the details of THD in keevnot sure what youre trying to say here
>>543318073What's retardation is killing over a million of your own young men.
>>543323546Iran sells drones to Russia while Russia sells fighters and atgms to Iran. Not very esoteric.
>>543323620Where is the corpse exchange??Show it to me
>>543323607>ukraine collapsed in 48hrs Then who are pidors fighting for the last 5 years?
>>543318965You lost tranny
>>543323665NATO
>>543323376>this war is a complete continent wide demilitarization of europeLMAO I'll link to the file since I can't post a duplicate :D>>543319366>>543323444You keep spamming SACEUR, because you think it's a clever reveal that the commander of alliance military operations is a yank. Your point is that because of this NATO is just a puppet project of USA (which it was during the cold war). Yet you're too daft to process my argument about why this won't continue (because the US is distancing itself from NATO to focus on China).
>>543323663>corpse exchangeYou mean the uncollected stinky ziggers littering in ukie fields?
>>543323716Are they aware they are fighting for 5 years?Where is NATO airforce?
>>543323554the idea that some of the last remaining ukrainian propaganda is (seriously) that Russia will simply throw its hands up in the air in annoyance and leave after 6 years is honestly soul crushing for ukrainelike, lacking all hope, lacking any actual real plan..ukraines fantasy is that Putin simply gets annoyed and leaves.....truly insane>>543323559>Russia couldn't project power more than 100km across it's own border into the poorest country in Europemust be why balt niggers are publicly strategizing civilization wide evacuationall those "on-paper" nato assets must not be very reassuring for them>>543323581ukraine is losing 30k per month according to budanovukriane has to bus 30k per month (and this is a 'minimum' in his words) to stay afloat. thats what i was referring to
>>543323444>providing targeting intelSure, for military targets.Russia hasn't sold Iran any weapons that can reach Europe or North America. Recently, they've sold jamming-resistant GLONASS receivers, however this was long after the taboo was already broken in Ukraine, and those receivers still aren't being used on any weapons that can reach Europe or North America.
>>543322952>Russia is on endless creeping defensive!>but please ignore our 4 years of bragging about our offensive and how much land we capturedkekwhat gluttonous nigger you are. You had like fifth oxcart full of shit and you are still screaming for more
>>543323651>Iran sells drones to Russia while Russia sells fighters and atgms to Iran. Not very esoteric.according to ONE shill niggers take^if another shill nigger is asked, each one is supplying the other one with advanced hypersonic ballistic missilesand now this weeks cycle are jet-dronesin a few weeks it will be something elsethe point is, depending on what side of the shill-nigger war the 'take' is coming from, its always insisting (Russia) or (Iran) is supplying (wunderwaffe of the week) to the other guy...(and its highly illegal!!!!!!)nato/jew propaganda messaging is in complete and total disaster mode
>>543323665>Then who are pidors fighting for the last 5 years?the combined GDP of continental europe, the entire male population of ukraine and 50+ years of nato equipment that nato ddidnt even want anyway
>>543323743This is just pure psychosis I don't know where to start. Russia doesn't even bother negotiating with Europeans because everyone knows the US is the one who calls the shots. And pivot to China? The US just pulled all of it's munitions stockpiles from Asia to the Middle East. Do you seriously get all of your views from Yle and HS?
>>543323813>Where is NATO airforce?sitting in hangars hundreds of miles out of range of anywhere it could marshall them without being blasted out of the sky by Russia who would be sortieing from its own airfields
>>543323948the 1991 borders left ukraine forever eternally on feb22, 2022
>>543324014>the entire male population of ukraineBut I thought Ukraine collapsed?>>543324047It's it funny how pidors are fighting NATO for 5 years, but it's only their country that is getting bombed very day, not any of the NATO countries.
I will never understand why americans shill for russia so much on here.Did you forget they supplied weapons to your enemies for like half a century?
>>543323874Sure my point is Russia doesn't need to escalate in Europe when it has the entire American world order in chokehold in the Middle East.
>>543323211Well there was a NPP, which hohols wanted to threaten blowing up, but they got stuck halfway to it. Then "elite" hohol tiktok forces, which murdered couple dozen of border guard and 4k civilians, were swapped with lots of bussified meat. Which is free, so they did not even want to take thousands of their bodies when it was over.
>>543317711it ends with them losing from 20 to 50 dead per 1 russianidk how they can make counter offensive crossing the river on choke pointsbegind your back that can be shot with bombs, artillery and dronesthats total NOOB, i know goyim reality is not a game, but it works same way
>>543324099About as strange as Europeans shilling for the US... I mean NATO even though the people who established NATO openly admitted it's a post WW2 occupation government.
>>543324099usa and russia are one entity, when people understand that, it will be easier to understand how surface world works
>>543324099your country is full of niggers. Russia didnt send them. It always makes me laugh that the more a westoid politician is antirussian the more pro infinity niggers he is.
>>543324093>But I thought ukraine collapsed?they did entirely, and its taking the collective GDP and economic future of europe to prop up the corpse>>543324093Russia being needle pricked by nato will never ever bring the 1991 borders backlmao, ukraine is sending its entire male population to be slaughtered so london can gloat about some refinery strikes that the US will ultimately shut down forever...then what?the 1991 borders wont ever be back...
>>543324099>Did you forget they supplied weapons to your enemiesthose are literal jew niggers enemies not "ours"
>>543324099some americans dislike actions of their government and want them to fail
>>543324099Some are from Texas Oblast but many are genuine organic ziggers. It's because Americans only understand politics from a dichotomy perspective due to their 2 party political structure (The PATRIOT Republicans and the TRANNY Democrats!). So because they are too stupid to understand nuance they automatically assume that Russia must be good since it signals itself to be anti-woke, and thus any country that opposes them must be woke. Also like russians they are very proud of themselves and thus don't like to be educated by their betters.
>>543324350So which enemy of Russia isn't "woke"?
>>543324217>Well there was a NPP, which hohols wanted to threaten blowing up, but they got stuck halfway to it.Missiles don't get stuck halfway through.Your NPPs are intact only because gloves are not off yet. They might come off in winter, when it's time to bomb your thermal power plants.
>>543324080>1991 borders left ukraine forever eternally>monke paw closes>Belgorod, Kurks, Woronesch and Rostos joins Ukraine
>>543321655They traded four guys retard The commanders left their most veteran officers to be taken to gulags in separatists territory prior to Russian annexation
>>543323553Russia may have stockpiled Ukrainian remains over 4+ years of occupation, These bodies weren't returned until recently for political/logistical reasons. The 6,000 frozen bodies (August 2025) suggests large-scale storage, not fresh battlefield recovery.> The Numbers Don't Match Current Fighting: Exchange ratios likely reflect cumulative battlefield geography from 2022-2026, not just current offensive/defensive positions.
>>543324350you stupid niggerwe understand the 'nuance' perfectly,thats why its in every TRUE AMERICANS interest that jew niggers in europe are defeated by Russia and jew niggers in israel/DC are defeated by Iran in the middle eastabsolutely none of this has anything to do with culture-war faggotry like trannies or 'woke'its about jew agenda being annihilated forever on 2 continentsjew occupation of europe and the middle east is being collapsed at warpspeed, and this benefits everyone who wants to see the death of the jew world order euro faggots are fighting so vehemently for with their nato cum guzzling
>>543324461Your delusion is as satisfying as watching you seethe at AdF winning
>>543324350everywhere this faggot nigger jew zionist fuckers agenda is slaughtered REAL AMERICANS win....meanwhile, nato-euros absolutely fire-hose suck cum from lindsays legacy agenda/propagandists
>>543324344Russia doesn't like those people. They unironically shill for a country that had to release a statement telling them how much they detest them. Pottery.
>>543319108Zoom out
>>543319366Europe is insanely weak and needs our money to survive
>>543324575who cares what anyone "likes" niggerso long as>pic relatedand all his ilk are LOSING the wars they started, its a collective WIN for humanity at largeyet you disgusting animals cannot stop guzzling zionist cum for a single second to recognize it
>>543324503>Help Me Alice Weidel, You're My Only Hopenigger, the AFD is entirely made out of grifters, they do shit against the EU MIC. As long they can make some bucks out of it
>>543324684No it's the other way around. The US sucks massive amounts of wealth away from Europe.
>>543324733Well there's the seething about AfD.
>>543324733AfD is inevitable
>>543324475>>543324544Have you considered that the globohomo agenda is Europe is unpopular and that us going to war with Russia would only unify europeans under globohomo since the external enemy is much clearer to the normies than the internal one?
>>543324544>>543324685You think it was a Russian missile or cocaine at a gaybar in Kiev which finally did Lindsay in?
>>543324779its funny how totaly based and fascist ukrainians are soooo butthurt that neonazis keep winning in germany lol
>>543324684When did you last give us money and how much? When did you last give Ukraine money and how much?Look up the answers and you might actually understand something about the current dynamic.
>>543324733>t. NAFO tranny AfD can’t be stopped
>>543324807Well it has clearly unified you pretty well.
>>543318073>muh cualdrons>muh gloves not even off yetkek zigger retards
>>543317711Maybe real vounteroffensive is all the numbers we made up along the way
>>543321968Kek. There are way more videos of russian forwimg a couldron. With flags, geolocated. Do you guys realize that people have memeory and they have seen for a year hpw ukrainian mapping is completely out of touch with reality?
>>543324878Finland just handed the US 10 billion for fighters which will never be fully delivered lol.
>>543324807lmao, and your response to this was absolutely stuck-starting zionist penis??? not sure I follow your logic here?you are the biggest "shabbos goy" dumbshit niggers to ever exist with your salivating for war with Russia shit that lindsey graham literally died for>>543324845>You think it was a Russian missile or cocaine at a gaybar in Kiev which finally did Lindsay in?^gif related
>>543325013blackmutt never happened in their minds marioupol either
>>543325031>Finland just handed the US 10 billion for fighters which will never be fully delivered lol.^that shit will never not be funny either>NO REFUNDS!!!
>>543324907No. I'm just not naive enough to think that life under the Russian boot with Russians replacing half of our population would be better than ousting our current leaders and existing as a sovereign ethnostate.>>543325031That we did. Can you see how that's the opposite of the US giving us money and how that would weaken trust in the US and thus their influence in NATO?
>>543324916>here's how we kill these mongoloid pidor orcs 20 to 1>REEEE, fuck you white men, the ukranian mongoloid pidors orcs are winning!Uh-huh, lol. Free happy meal, btw.
>>543322202>thinks bahkmut is MariupolSee retarded. But your flag already proved that.>ukraine doesnt have forests in combat areasSee retarded. Massive forests have been fought through and captured during the course of this war. More sq kms of forest have been captured by the russians during this war than exist in all of finland. And remember every single damn treeline is massively overgrown and MUCH more difficult to deal with than any forest on earth.>>543322243They most certainly are for most munitions. We havent sent much in the way of tanks or tank ammo, tons of planes and regular jdams, navy that actually sails, etc etc. So yeah definitely a better state. Still bad, but better than all of europe combined.
>>543324575Honestly a completely retarded move to print that, if you think about it. They should have let these "key-board warriors" in their wrong believes, maybe some could have been of use. What this article told them now is, you don't like globohomo? Well we are globohomo only gayer und with lots of gay rape. I don't understand this at all. If you feel compelled to print this due to ideological reasons you already lost, to be honest. Ideology should be a tool by the people in power to control the masses, but they shouldn't get high on their own supply and believe their own bullshit too much.
>>543325041I don't think that you understood the post. Like I already said americans are too stupid to engage in politics, hence why they get hoodwinked by zigger propaganda scripts orginally aimed at jeets.
>>543325013>There are way more videos of russian forwimg a couldron.May we see them, dates and sources uncropped if you'd be so kind?
>>543324881>>543324779>>543324804>in 2029 the AFD will safe us!kekyou better check first how the Bundestag is formed
>>543318073it's not murder when an occupier is killed
>>543325133>Finland today existing as a sovereign ethnostateHahaha>Handing over money to NATO/US will surely weaken NATO/USHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHYou should really examine why you have a psychotic fantasy about Russia invading and replacing half the population.
>>543322467>it was orders from PutinAnd generals who OBEYED that order. Buck stops at the generals.>>543322332Oh? So why are we still sending them hundreds of thousands of 155mm shells? Why are we still sending them JdAMs? Etc etc etc. yeah we pulled the patriots and other standoff munitions like ATACMs, but dont mistake a few weapon systems for a total supply cut.
>>543325354>So why are we still sending them hundreds of thousands of 155mm shells? Why are we still sending them JdAMs?We buy them from you and give them to Ukraine you fucking Jews.
>>543325123Also come think of it all the money sent to Ukraine is just indirect payments to the US XD
>>543325163he will be able to go to mcdonalds in afterlifemuslims have 72 virgins, butthurt belters live in mcdonalds in afterlife
>>543325465Not anymore. The main funds now are directed to be spent on European arms.
>>543322434Why do you faggots spend years here still pretending like you don't know how attrition warfare works. You worms are pathetic.
>>543325430>Why is my master treating me like a slave after I've proudly pledged allegiance to himAnti US nafoids are just the funniest shit ever.
>>543325531>The MAIN fundsXDDD
>>543325578>don't know how attrition warfare worksI know exactly how it works. Ukraine has given the world a masterclass in it. Now they have attrited their enemy so comprehensively they have been able to return to manoeuvre warfare and are currently smashing russian positions everywhere.
>>543325013>Drone puts up random Russian fag>hurra, victory we won>see! Russian flags are here!nigger, this is the reason why you are losing
>>543323535>>543323357By that standard the USA has been under total conscription since 2001….the national guard is supposed to be our reserve force yet they are STILL deployed to active combat zones.Using trained, equipped reserves is NOT the same as using untrained vanned civilians who are handcuffed, literally,until they reach the front.
>>543325645The €90bn. Yes.
>>543321422Ahahahah
>>543325674Why can't these glorious, highly motivated russian hoards defeat these demoralised, handcuffed weaklings?
>>543319367Have you seen some of the people fighting for Russia? Mongols, blacks and tartars….even North Koreans, it’s not an entirely white army from st Petersburg lol
>>543325738same why the Nazis could't defeat the judeo-bolsheviks, numbers...
>>543319108>why didn’t Russia advance on the fronts it’s been fighting over since 2014Because that’s where the Ukrainian defenses are.Honestly Ukraine has done really well. Blunting russias top tier units in their attempt at Kiev was a great success. The last notable true victory they’ve had was zaphorizina where they again rolled the vdv.They need a real victory again. Not just taking land Russia abandoned due to untenable logistics (kharkhiv). They need to meet a large professional Russia unit and make them crawl away defeated.The Mariupol direction,imo, is where it should take place but I don’t think it’s possible anymore.
>>543325763No one said Russia is 100% white btw since it is a empire
>>543323813Over the black sea, the baltics, poland providing 24/7 ISR for the AFU. Then we have the NATO F-16s flown by “ex” NATO pilots in Ukraine. But those arent NATI cause they signed a scrap of paper, right?
>>543325774So Russia will lose. If they don't have the numbers. Interdasting.
>>543325901There is a good change that this could happen if they continue to understimate Ukraine and the West
>>543325935It's 100% going to happen. And it isn't down to numbers. It's down to intellect, bravery and skill. All of which Russia lack.
>>543317711>lostarmour cope sad
>>543325885Realistic speaking Ukraine lacks offensive capabilities, the best for them is to assume a defensive posture, and honestly this is what they could do the best... with skirmishes and minor attacks, diplomacy is their best option now but since Putin and the West pressure Ukraine it is very hard to happen... their future looks grim
>>543324093>funny how russia is being droned but NaTO isntWhich is why every single person with a brain thinks Putin is a cuck. He has had 5 years of reasons to go full nuclear on NATO, and wont even shoot a single drone at them. Papa Joe would have nuked NATO the very second Miley declared NATO a party to the conflict.
>>543318073>roosters are spamming the same cope now they are on the receiving endKWAB!
>>543326007>intellect, bravery and skillboth thinks that Ukranians and Russians have but not sufficiently or efficiently to win the war in a master stroke
>ukrops are dragged into the meatgrinder like swine for free>rusorcs do it voluntarily for mere peanuts>all so that oligrachs on both sides could make millions
>>543326088things*
>>543325763Meanwhile in Canada>https://indiawest.com/permanent-indian-residents-can-now-join-canadian-military/
>>543326054That’s outdated info. They’ve been launching drones from inside countries like Germany at civilian infrastructure being used to support Ukraine. Governments don’t know how to respond yet but it’s definitely getting kinetic. Germany outright blamed them for a failed droning and airport shutdown in Munich just this month. They’re openly running operations that aren’t even attempting to hide they’re Russian to see how we respond.
>>543324474>the exchange rates might not reflect current battlefield conditionsBut they reflect the previous five yeara of fighting. Meaning from begining to now the AFU is losing dozens for every single Russian they kill. And it remains to be addressed how that ratio will improve when the AFU shifts from heavily fortified urban areas to random farmer fields.
>>543318073Russia lost 2026. It's September 26th. They only have about 25 more days of good foliage coverage and they've only really gained Kostyantynivka this year. What else have they really gained? Not good. In 2025 and 2024 they made much faster gains.In 2024 Russia gained 4,200 sq km including many small cities in the Donbass.In 2025 they gained Pokrovsk and captured 4,800 sq km.In 2026 so far they've only gained, net, 812 sq km.And Ukraine has been winning the deep strike war because of Elon Musk's Starlink. I've explained how that works many times.
>>543326050>Ukraine lacks offensive capabilitiesYet it's currently on offensive right across the front. Very successful offensive too. Why do you lie?
>>5433262032 more weeks then ? perhaps
>>543326186Zero proof of that faggotAs usual they charge somebody in Russia so we can never see the governnents evidence
>>543326199It has to do with them losing ground and being unable to recover bodies as well.
>>543326203>gained KostyantynivkaThey have not gained konstantinivka. Current map.
>>543326260These are skirmishes and minor attacks, not campaigns or offensives, that is not how military engagement works... they could't do this anymore because they lack material and manpower for it, and risk losing more territory because of that
>>543326199Your 12-1 ratio is just zigger cope.
>>543326357They have secured approximately 1000km2 in operation Vivaldi around Lyman.>Skirmish......
NAFO troons are delusional golems, i don't know if these are poopjeets or tranny spammers from discord, there is a chance for Russia to lose the war, but right now the changes goes agains Ukraine
>>543326299>zero proofNigger Russia FSB is so retarded they’re literally issuing sequential numbered passports to their operatives. It’s 100% confirmed. German police are going to start killing these retards.They just uncovered a weapons stash this week that was to be used for assassins. 20 minutes from Berlin.
>>543326186>civilian infrastructure being used to support Ukraine.Drone factories? Legit target sorry
>>543326480No. DHL flagged transport aircraft.If that’s open then all Russian aviation is fair game.
>>543326338I love shcizo maps!
>>543326609Mine is backed by geolocated and time stamped video evidence. Yours isn't.
>>543325430Lmao. So the “european” support is really just american support paid for by Europe. And you think this means the US isnt arming Ukraine?>>543325738Huh? The meat is merely meant to hold territory until they are killed. And thus with a constant supply the front can be maintained with the sacrifice of untrained un willing conscripts. And even with that the front steadily moves westward day after day.
>>543326696>you think this means the US isnt arming Ukraine?America sells arms to Europe. That is all.
>>543326429So they found Russian passports on the drones?Meanwhile we know ukraine has spies all over the world working with the.CIA who are armed to the teeth.......Car bombings, cafe bombing, beheadings in the Carribean, assasination of the artist in Poland. All ukraine terror tactics.
>>543326696>the front steadily moves westward day after day.May we see it? Russia has been consistently retreating since 2022. It would be massive news if they'd finally turned this around and started advancing.....
>>543326429>stash of assasin weapons!What a faggot drama queen you are>Earlier, local media had reported that German authorities had unearthed two handguns and ammunition about a year ago in a wooded area outside the German capital after agents of the domestic intelligence service received a tip.
Ukrainians and Russians are both subhumans to me. I pay taxes so that these people are exterminated. The goal of our government is to supply Oinkraine with weapons so the exterminatipn of white apes can continue
>>543323207>the russia can't defeat heavily pregnant women
>>543326873As usual no Russians are involved in the "Russian" plot>Rather than removing the arms, German authorities left them on site after rendering them unusable in the hope they would lead to clues during a months-long electronic surveillance operation, Dobrindt said.>No one was observed trying to collect the weapons, leading investigators to believe the agent or agents had learned of the cache’s discovery and it was now “dead”.>Dobrindt described the suspect in Romania, whose nationality was not disclosed, as a “low-level agent” and noted several other such operatives had been detained so far this year.No nationality releasedSo Ukraunian
Is it over?
>>543324463>literally no native Donetsk fighting age male remains in DonetskWho had to go?
>>543327015Tempo tempo tempo.
>>543324217I don't think they wanted to blow it up, they wanted to occupy it and use it as a bargaining chip in negotiations. Never even got there but stayed in kursk for 8 months for PR
>>543319219there's been a few pockets, but it's not like they last as long as some Stalingrad shit Ukraine tries to avoid encirclements lately to avoid looking too bad in media, so whena pocket closes, they mostly sent their specops to be suicided into the pocket and the pocket to be suicided out of the pockets. Casualties are higher but the POW are close to nill and there is no more writing in media about encircled troops.
>>543320291>How many Ukranians are even left?Pic rel
>>543326203>In 2025 they gained Pokrovsk and captured 4,800 sq km.True.>In 2026 so far they've only gained, net, 812 sq km.Cope. it's 3400 sq km, maybe 3300 with current hohol offensive gains around Lyman.>about 25 more days of good foliage coverageRemind me during what months Porkovsk was taken?>And Ukraine has been winning the deep strike warlol. Winning the war with no air defence ammunition, yes. The Hruckraine now has railroad network crisis due to locomotives taken out and Russia striking data centers all over the Hruckraine in the last few days. Don't worry, Orekhov fortified sector will fall before this year is over, same with Dobropolie and Belozerskoyoe, frontline south of Druzhkovka will be penetrated and flanked. At north front cauldron will be eliminated, key defensive settlement Prikolotnoye will be taken and, if things go well, fighting will start around Velikiy Buruluk.
>>543327272With all these pockets, why isn't Russia advancing?
>>543326747>what aboutNigger I don’t care. My point was things are escalating. They don’t find the passport with the drone but because Russian intelligence is an oxymoron they were able to track the movement of the drone operators using their passports and uncovered the network once one person was IDed. They knew where and who flew the drones because once one piece was found they could easily link it to foreign nationals using similar passports.Dumbass.>>543326873>>543326987Yeah Russia is paying people to kill people and burn buildings down. A Venezuelan got arrested for burning down buildings in Spain and the UK. It’s still a Russia plot and Russia funded and established the drop sites regardless of what passport the perpetrators had.They literally arrested a Russia dude in the case I was discussing anyway.
>>543319366>No one has said that Russia could take EuropeMacron literally and unironically showed up before the parliament and told every MP that Russia was few months away from raising the russian flag on top of the eiffel tower unless we react NOW*.* = it was back in 2024 and nothing happened obviously
>>543327417Bullshit faggot100% false flag.We have seen zero evidence
>>543327369>Orekhov fortified sector will fall before this year is over, same with Dobropolie and Belozerskoyoe, frontline south of Druzhkovka will be penetrated and flanked. At north front cauldron will be eliminated, key defensive settlement Prikolotnoye will be taken and, if things go well, fighting will start around Velikiy BurulukYou've been claiming the same shit since 2022 and done nothing but retreat since.Fuck off with your cope.
>>543327369>Russia striking data centers all over the Hruckraine in the last few days.No bitching about Nazis and terrorism when Yandex data centers will get bombed in retaliation, ok?
>>543327513>Yandex data centers will get bombedI am looking forward to this immensely.
>>543327513I don't think you will have internet at this point of time to make threads about this, though.
>>543318073Cant wait to see that blue line removed from that flag. Na zdrowie faggot.
Because everything hohols try comes back to them in x5-x10 magnitude.
>>543322801europe will be made to run away soon. they have no industry or young men willing to fight. russia will occupy more of the ukraine forever. the drones will stop
>>543327369>maybe 3300 with current hohol offensive gains around Lyman.you know shit is grim when even fsbots have to admit they're losing ground.
>>543327670>I don't thinkYeah, pidors are generally very bad at thinking.You probably didn't think that Yandex data centers can be bombed too, before gloating about bombed data centers.Just like you didn't think about Wildberries and Ozon getting bombed, before gloating about Nova Poshta.
>>543317711Lyman status?
>>543323651russia makes its own drones. are you stupid?
>>543327748Holy cope. Fucking chang in overdrive.
>>543327921Will you apologise though? Are you a man of your word or just a decrepit old ghoul with no soul?
>>543327753Unlike for Hruckraine, retreat is not eternal loss of land for Russia, nothing to be coping about. Remember Kursk chimp out? Tens of thousands hohols dead, hundreds of armored vehicles lost, full retreat in the end. Neither it's surprising what weakest and most incompetent russian army group is losing ground, when you look at their achievements(or lack of) in the previous years of SMO, expectations were low since beginning.
>>543327485>germany is committing a false flag because it suddenly wants to attack Russia despite shitting it’s pants and doing everything possible to not participate in the war since its inception to include voting a pro Russian party into power in its most recent electionsThis is your brain on zigger. The reality is Russia isn’t competent or is intentionally belligerent. I’m leaning toward the latter but those are your only options in the real world.
>>543327670>rusnigger bragging about internet availabilityMasters of chutzpah.
>>543328012>Remember Kursk chimp out?Civil war in BPR and KPR where Mosquew regime invaded them because Kurskians and Bilhorodians don't want to live under mosquew regime occupation, which dragged them into the never ending war against their historical homeland.Also BPR and KPR partisans are still present there.
>>543327793>Just like you didn't think about Wildberries and Ozon getting bombedAnd how it helped you? Now every major tax payer on the Hruckraine is getting bombed into nothingness. You must be special kind of retarded what you can achieve some net gain in these strikes.
>>543328144>And how it helped you?How did bombing data centers in Ukraine helped pidors?Look at this cool and expensive data center you have there. Would be a real shame if something happened there. No bitching about muh terrorism afterwards, ok?
>>543325885>Blunting russias top tier units in their attempt at Kiev was a great success.Russia never had enough troops in the field to siege Kiev. It would have taken the entire invasion force to surround and take Kiev block by block.
>>543328244>How did bombing data centers in Ukraine helpedLearn to read, Taras Pidorashko, it was explained above, and you already know how. You media say enough themselves. Doubled commication prices, crisis on railroad system management, banks will stop operations, tv having problems working.And its only going to get worse. Every time you cope and gloat about striking something in glorious Russia, Russia comes back spanking you ten times stronger in return. You just like that mujik in anecdote about about hunter and bear.
>>543324099they had a literal tranny spokesman
>>543328518>Doubled commication prices, crisis on railroad system management, banks will stop operations, tv having problems working.Thank you for giving all this reasons to bomb Yandex data centers.Its only going to get worse.
>>543318965Ukrops coping about their generational lineage being wiped from the face of the planet on behalf of westoid kikes and their troon cheerleaders, all for the sake of a crushing defeat and inevitable negotiations. Many such cases, different shitshow, same fodder.
>>543324409NPP's get hit, Kiev gets glassed. Not even Israel has crossed that line.
>>543328639You haven't been grabbed yet?
>>543319708>we would be easy pickingsThe only thing that would change is your state flag and your posting flag here when you inevitably flee to some western euro shithole like the cuck faggot you are kek
>>543320387We're reaching levels of delusion that shouldn't even be possible. You have to go back.
>>543328787Did the westoid kikes and troons made ukranians hate communist HIV-pozzed mongoloid subhumans from the East killing their relatives?
>>543320956>we know that we will win the war>the enemy doesn't know that we will win the war>therefore we must avoid the enemy attacking at all costs in the event that they mistakenly don't realize that we've already wontopfugginzozzle. At first I thought you were just a drunken retard but this is top quality bait.
>>543322165But just you wait until they send every last female chud!
>>543322243>but but what about US mil logistics!?topfugginkek, tell me more about Ukraine's next grand counter offensyve
>>543328787Does that mean Putin will declare victory soon, comrade cumrag?
>>543323207There wont be anyone left to complete the cycle soon enough. Just FREE REALESTATE for their beloved kike overlords to repurpose.
>>543329504>what is attritional warfareIndeed, my retarded friend.
>>543317711>year 5 of the SMO>Ukrainians aren't retaking territory fast enough!
>>543329655So Putin is unable to win?
>>543329809topfugginkek. How'd you even manage to turn the PC on?
>>543329959>How'd you even manage to turn the PC on?Better than the Russians are at conquering Ukraine it seems.
>>543325244>>543325658Yes, you can go to any ukrainian map and see history fir any date. You can then go to any russian map and see history with videos of russiam solders waving flags. Only 2 months later ukrainian map will include that territory.
>>543330849>waving flagsOk. So not capturing territory then. I accept your concession.
>>543330262>>543331058NAFOtroon cope is off the charts kek. Almost feel bad at this point. Almost.
>>543330849May we see the corpse exchange where Ukranians give 1000 of the 43.000 dead Russians per month?
Wars are the Jews harvestGoy's sole purpose in life is to die and make money for his jewish masters.
