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It's our fault we made Russia invade Ukraine. It's our fault Russia is losing in Ukraine.
It's our fault NATO has to expand to protect itself.
It's our fault everything bad in the world happens.

It's all our fault.
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This chart shows many of the best Jews from Russia who came to America.
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>>543319486
protect what.
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When end-stage Jewish capitalism happens, you want to surround yourself with Jews okay gang?

They will survive, the Goyim will not.
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>>543319486
John Mearsheimer is a massive faggot.
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>>543319738
Itself
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>>543319486
Did the west start funding separatists in Ukraine? It all escalated from that
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Quite so. Staging a coup d'etat violates national sovereignty. Denying people's right to self-determination violates international law. Instigating a war is an act of aggression.
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>>543320078
Is two separated countries a problem?
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>>543320078
What "the west" did do was entice Ukraine to apply to join NATO in 2008, which contravenes article 9 of Ukraine's sovereignty declaration. It then enticed certain elements in Ukraine to use extra-constitutional means to get rid of the pro-article 9 Yanukovych.
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>>543320037
and what is itself and why you need constantly expand for it? And why should others calmly watch this and not react to your attempt to defend yourself through expansion?
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>>543320212
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>>543320164
>answered a question with a unrelated question
I'll just remind everyone of Vladislav Surkov e-mails
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>>543319486
Lol gulaghomo lost nigga
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>>543320265
>your attempt to defend yourself through expansion
Das rite
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>>543319486
going to get.,...
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>>543320281
Russian officials have said over and over again that they do not want war with NATO countries. Putin said it again as recently as yesterday. Still, the Russians recognize that such a war might be inevitable; that's why they lifted the IRBM moratorium.
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>>543320481
>Russian officials have said over and over again that they do not want war with NATO countries

*invades a country they think could join NATO*
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>>543319486
>It's our fault NATO has to expand to protect itself.

this jew nigger line is why ukraine will be exterminated along with all european geopolitical credibility

>>543320281
lmao, and now euro pussies are planning nation wide strategic evacuation plans for balts, while other balt nations plan their national suicide via Russian jet drone.

brilliant
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>>543319486
>>543320164
>>543320281
>>543320365
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>>543319486
Go back home artyom they need your meat
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>>543320365
In other words, it is about protecting the European oligarchy and the economic privileges Europe gained during the colonial era—privileges it now maintains with US support. Yet this is bound to end in conflict, because it ended in conflict last time, and trying to do the same thing while expecting a different result is sheer stupidity.

So, there is a very high probability that Europe will once again be destroyed for the sake of the local oligarchy's expansionist interests.
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>>543319486
>us remove Ukraine government, imprison them and replace them with kike puppets in 2014
>spend 8 years artillery striking civilians within Ukraine, goading Russia
>when Russia steps in, us kikes prop up war with billions in arms
the jew cries out as it hits you
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>>543320543
How does that contravene the notion that Russia doesn't want to fight NATO countries? If anything, it supports the notion. The Russians desire to maintain a buffer between themselves and NATO, especially in the Belarus/Ukraine region that includes the optimal invasion routes into Russia.
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>>543320893
>optimal invasion routes into Russia.
Europe doesn't have a army. US keeps crying about it non stop. As a reaction to this shitshow, its investing and expanding more now. Genius monke move or just your personal reasoning?
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>>543320771
>da us is da reason russia invaded ukraine
did the big scary usa shit your pants too?
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>>543320769
No, what happened was Ukrainians looked at countries like Poland who join with the EU and then at countries like Belarusian who were Russian influenced and thought to themselves fuck this Russia can go to hell.
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>>543320893
>The Russians desire to maintain a buffer

Look at me. Russia is a regional power. NATO a superpower. We will be making the ones making decisions here.
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>>543319486
> It's all our fault.
This happens to be correct if with "our" you mean the Western decision makers.
They no longer accepted the status quo of Ukraine in 2014 and decided to stage a bloody coup there.
They didn't honor the Minsk 2 agreement that was meant to solve the conflict peacefully.
They even intervened to prevent a peace deal because they wanted this war so bad!
They pour billions into this war to keep it going to the last hohol.
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>>543321989
Eh tone? Don't you think it's strange that most of the top oligarchs in Russia are jewish and connected to Israel? And have an enclave in Russia specifically for jews?
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>>543319486
>all great powers seek to expand
>thus, it's natural that Russia tries to expand into Ukraine
>however, it's unnatural that NATO tries to do the same
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>>543319738
Protect Jewish interests of course
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>>543320212
Even if it was true (lol), what is the problem with Ukraine joining nato?
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>>543320078
Unironically yes
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>>543320893
Ok and how do invading a country neighboring nato create a buffer? It litteraly put you closer to nato WHILE encouraging your non nato neighbors to join nato unless they also get turned into a "buffer". I swear russoids are subhumans retard
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>>543321690
You won't succeed in selling us the naive story of the peaceful and self-determined revolution of the Ukrainian People. The coup of 2014 was forced by foreign powers and Jewish oligarchs with at least $5 billion and massive intervention by Western intelligence. Ukraine wasn't sovereign. Ukraine isn't sovereign.
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>>543322188
>Thai flag speaking English

We know what kind of man you are
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>>543322215
Konstantin Malofeyev is from the west?
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>>543319486
>It's our fault we made Russia invade Ukraine.
True, you accumulated and trained a nato nazis army in Ukraine.
Russia had no choice but to attack nato nazi army at their border, before it crossed their border, like Hitler nazi army did in 1941.

>It's our fault Russia is losing in Ukraine.
Untrue , Ukraine and NATO lost in Ukraine.
Ukraine lost half of its population .

>It's our fault NATO has to expand to
Attack Russia to steal russian resources - oil, gas etc .
But you lost to Russia.

>It's our fault everything bad in the world happens.
True.
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>>543322276
>Ukraine elect a pro eu president
>President turn out to be pro russia
Now, logically speaking, what would be the natural reaction of the Ukrainian people upon such a discovery
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>>543322276
Yes some slavs may die but that's a risk us here at NATO are willing to take
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Correct.
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>>543322329
>you accumulated and trained a nato nazis army in Ukraine.
Why would Ukraine not do that after 2014? Should they just let themselves be raped again and again?

>NATO and Ukraine lost
Why is russia still getting droned daily? How many casualties nato nations suffered?
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>>543322329
>Russia had no choice but to attack

Lmao
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>>543322423
It was either strike now or have GAYTO bases at the heart of one of the inner post soviet states.

Come to think of it Russians were very patient seeing GAYTO expand into eastern yoorope.
But then GAYTO whores got too cocky and decided to not only take an inch but a mile.
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>>543322418
Ukraine is a CIA/ Pentagon / brit mi6 and german stazi puppet state.
2014 was a CIA/ mi6 color revolution to install a puppet gov in Ukraine,
so that nato can finance and train a nato nazi army in Ukraine.
>all of this happened
So, by 2022 when this nato nazi army was bombing russian cities for 8 years,
Russia had no other choice but to cross the border, and eliminate this nato nazi army at their border.

What else did you expect?? That Russia would fold? Did you believe your own retard level glowie propaganda that claimed russia is weak and a paper tiger?
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>>543322423
Answer to your retardation below.
>>543322610
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>>543319486
>NATO has to expand to protect itself
Oy, vey...

«Israel’s population is projected to grow to 11.1 million by 2030, 13.2 million by 2040, and 15.2 million by 2048. That’s why hanging on to the West Bank is such a contentious issue… ’lebensraum.’

These people need places to live in a nation short of land mass. Compare Israel to its neighbor Jordan, which has a smaller population, yet about five times the land area. If Israel is to maintain its agricultural industry, its exploding population will [need] to grow up, in high rise apartment complexes, as well as out, possibly into Judea and Samaria.» - ["Lebensraum Needed for Israel’s Exploding Population" (2024)](https://archive.ph/NGnNv)
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“NATO had to expand to protect itself.”

This bullshit is on the level of “it’s safe and effective “ and “two weeks to flatten the curve”
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>>543319694
>many of the best Jews from Russia who came to America
Trotskyists who then turned neoconservative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Intellectuals
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>>543319486
Meh Ukraine had a chance. Their only real time where they were in a positive spot was during the ambush attacks at the start. Since then it's just been a slough and they didn't seem to understand the game plan. Stupid fucking kike is already asking for another $40 billion just to survive. Lmao. This is the end for that nation south Vietnam style collapse.
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>>543322610
NATO rage baited Russia into Ukraine and now they can't get out. That's the difference between a regional power and a superpower. All without firing a single bullet.
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>>543322610
>2014 was a CIA/ mi6 color revolution to install a puppet gov in Ukraine
Complete with Georgian mercenaries shooting at both protesters and police.
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>>543322593
They had internal struggles. The point of the Soviet union collapsing.
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>>543319486
Don't be so hard on yourself, Seamus
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>>543322785
Maybe if zelensky begs for more ceasefires you will convince somebody.
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>>543322593
There was no public discussion or propaganda about invading Russia. There was zero military buildup in Europe. In fact it was the opposite in the latest time of peace. Putin shows up to the 2007 Münich meeting and starts talking about new pooperpowers and a multipolar world and BRICS start building up while Europe is slowly morphing into a cucked and femdom soviet union.
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>>543319486
> Russia is losing in Ukraine.
Retard.
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>>543322785
Whaaaaaaaaaaat???
Nato equipped, financed and trained the largest army in Europe in Ukraine,
on Russian border.
Basically it was identical to nazi Hitler army in 1939-1941, when euro nazis trained and equipped a nazi army on the border of the Soviet Union before ww2 started.
Then you scammed Stalin into believing you, that you won't attack, and to sign fake Molotov-Ribentropp act.
Which was just a fakery for hitler nazis to give them more time to collect a bigger army and start a war.
This time you were unable to Lie and scam Putin and Russia.
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>>543323198
>when euro nazis trained and equipped a nazi army on the border of the Soviet Union before ww2 started.
Funny you mention it. Treaty of Rapallo, involved four secret training facilities where the Reichswehr and the Red Army exchanged knowledge and technology.
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>>543319486
>goy slave expert on russia stranded in russia with his US dollars
can we hang him already



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