If liberalism is so bad then why are all the world's richest nations excluding oil countries extremely liberal while all the conservative countries are total shitholes?
this dynamic applies even inside of countries as well. the liberal parts are rich, advanced and cosmopolitan while the conservative parts are shitholes
Was wondering when I'd start seeing Chainsmoker Cat reaction images. Didn't read your post.
>>543320342It's not about liberal vs non liberal it's investment vs stagnation.Conservative countries are conservative because they think that the current state of things is fine. So they just do more of the same.Liberalism doesn't think that so they generally Invest more.That being said non liberal countries can still develop successfully. Singapore for example.You just can't be *conservative* but being autocratic and/or right wing yet prosperous is entirely possible albeit rare.That being said Spain is liberal and a hellhole so it's hardly a guarantee either.
>>543320342liberalism allows money printing
> we richYou cannot afford a child, never mind three.
>>543320342stupid stinky sexy cat
Because those liberal countries are white countries you fucking retard. They've only shifted to liberalism in the last 70 years. They're great because they are white not because they are liberal
>>543320342Liberal implies free speech, which many of those countries don't even have. You get arrested over Facebook posts in many Euro countries nowadays. But one thing all successful countries had in common was they were all Christian countries. But they have forsaken Christianity and freedom of expression and are now in decline.
My country is extremely liberal and it's a shithole
>>543320342>Material wealth is the only thing that mattersFound the jew
>>543320728no one can lol, pajeets and niggers just don't give a shit
>>543320342I love when she shits on my dick as I’m cumming in her asshole.
>>543320342>>543320551How about Canada? Anyway, the farce linking leftist social policies to legitimate social progress is less convincing by the day.
>>543320342Liberalism will end in these countries after they're conquered by Islamic conservatives. So it works, but has a time limit. In practice, Western conservatives are just liberals who want to prolong this time period by limiting immigration.
>>543320946It's not like your dick can taste the shit for you. That comes later!
Because conservative ideas are basic primitive ideas. It's all about emotions rather than bothering to make a solid argument. 'I feel like this is bad therefore it is'. They act as if libs do this but conservatives do it much more.The places with the most oppressive social rules about things like women, gays, brutal punishments for petty crimes, etc are African shitholes. These places are also, unsurprisingly, extremely religious.The same is true for ideas of government. Right wingers prefer everyone being mindless automatons following a big chief unquestioningly. 'Man in the special hat says to do it so you better do it or else you get executed!'. It's how you organize society when everyone is 80 IQ.../pol/'s ideal country is something like Somalia.>>543320439Indeed>>543320782Indeed, they're white countries and culture is downstream of race. Liberalism is a white trait. The enlightenment wasn't created in a vacuum, it drew heavily from the philosophical tradition of ancient Greece for example. The third world does not have anything like this, never has. It's exclusive to Euros. What I'm pointing out is exactly why people like Dugin consider liberalism 'colonialist' because he sees it as a European phenomenon that is being inflicted on non white people around the world.
>>543320342This is fake. It only works when you look at GDP. Job security seems way worse in liberal society for example. I went to Mexico and gave it a try, I was amazed at how easy it was to find a job and also rent compared to sallary and food wasn't that bad. I never felt like I would have to go hungry. Never worried about rent either. Never had I been able to live as much as I did in Mexico. It just got fucked because the guy I found on 4chan that would be my translator and help with paperwork, well, it didn't work out with me and him. The GDP meme and currency exchange rate is a scam to make workers in rich countries feel good about their country. Like, how come food and rent is so insanely expensive in these rich countries that allegedly have more automation to make stuff, including food, compared to poor countries? How come I need to work longer to afford the same shit yet we are called rich?
>>543320846There's the rub, that's the case most of the time. OP is a memeflag shill projecting a false narrative where the boomers are still in their 30's and locations like Western Europe are still wonderful, utopian places to live. It's not that way but goyim who are half asleep or stupid get dragged along with his jewish illusion for a while.
>>543320342>Excluding oil countriesBecause you're grasping at straws.Grow a brain, retard.
>>543320342In the grand scheme of things, liberalism is quite new.The second strongest country on earth today is ruled by the communist party of china, and while I don't mean to DRUMPF post, the strongest country on earth is increasingly de-liberalizing.I think it'll burn out by 2100.
>>543320342White countries are rich, brown countries are shitholes.
>>543320342>excluding oil countriesstate run resource extraction is the way
>>543321499They are all also capitalist.But the more liberal they become the more they decline.
>>543321121And when Western countries are no longer white, they won't be liberal either. An ideology that brings about it's own destruction. Just like with Ancient Greece.
>>543320342all the liberal countries were originally conservative. ya dumdum
>>543320342>liberal>conservativeokay chang
>>543320342Most of the economy is totally fake. Its just Jewish neurology with no relation to anything real.
>>543321761they really took the marxist meme of dig a hole and get paid for it seriously
>>543320342Success breeds stupidity.
>>543320342riches dont accrue equally throughout economies. because of this, all rich countries are liberal because they can afford to pay subsidies (waste) to those too poor to survive unassisted. the subsidies are inefficient (i.e. so bad) because handing out food to wildlife creates dependency and unnatural behaviors to the point where the individual animal begins to suffer or even die, much like liberals with mental illnesses and nonviable mate selection preferences. in total shitholes, the subsidies cannot be afforded, and the non-viable behaviors do not develop to any significant degree. overall, the amount of suffering in the conservative system is lower, simply because those suffering die out, decist, detrans, grow up, become conservative. in the liberal system, those suffering are sustained longer, developing patterns of suffering behaviors even in the absence of actual stressors.
Conservatives in the West basically want to conserve this Liberal way of life. Liberals try to speedrun it to its inevitable destruction by bringing in masses of people incompatible with the Western sociopolitical software. You can't have a) liberalism b) democracy c) masses of third-world idiots, all at the same time.
>>543320342because they can afford to be retarded
>>543322003>the people called liberals are actually just communistshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgJ_1WuhUig
>>543320342>ID: GOYI don't think you're mentally or educationally equipped to understand the distinction between conservatism and liberalism. For instance, anti-data center and AI sentiment comes from the "left" who call themselves liberals yet they are acting like conservatives, terrified of technological change and wanting things to stay as they are. If you go to New England, you might notice that everyone votes blue. You might also notice that New England is the Whitest area in the entire nation. Of course its the safest and most prosperous area in all of the country - its the WHITEST, duh. If you simply use racial demographics instead of voting patterns, you see that prosperity, education, safety has to do with the racial makeup, not the political makeup of a given area. For instance, Louisiana is a "red state" with lots of poverty and crime, but wait, its also the state with the highest percentage of niggers, like 35% of the state are niggers. You also have to make distinctions between ivy league republicans and blue collar, southern redneck republicans. You have to make a distinction between educated White liberals who live just like conservatives do, chasing social status and the white picket fence american dream just like the other voting team, and the scores of leftwing progressives who are even bigger rubes than maga retards. The average leftist around me is a low status, low income, uneducated rube who just so happens to support gay marriage and trannies. These people aren't intelligent, they aren't successful, they aren't doing well in life. I went to school with this one outspoken lefty I still have on faceberg and hes now 40 working at a fucking waffle house, smokes weed proudly and posts about it, and loves rick and morty... He's also about 5'5 and I'm pretty sure hes an incel. Thats your typical leftist outside of the elite New England types - the losers in highschool who go on to be losers their whole lives.
>>543320342You're putting the cart before the horse. Liberals don't become rich, the rich become liberals. Particularly the merchant class and city dwellers. This dynamic has existed since ancient times.
>>543320342All white countries are rich. All white countries are liberal. Not all liberal countries are rich. You almost succeeded at basic logic, but not quite, bunkertranny-kun.
>>543321668Precisely. I'm glad you said it before I had to. This argument that liberalism is White doesn't make sense when you point out White population drops in every single White liberal country without exception.
>>543320342Because liberal ideas are luxury beliefs that can only come about during times of excess. Third worlders are conservative because they're forced to live in reality. Don't worry, we won't be able to afford liberality in the West soon.
>>543320342you think you're so clever huh?
>>543320342>he says while posting a picture from the most conservative culture in the world
try moving to the eu as non-eu citizen then you'll see how liberal they REALLY are
>>543320342mixing up cause and effectaffluence allows the proliferation of liberal ideas, the countries/regions you're thinking of are liberal because they live comfy lives of plenty, not the other way around
>>543321227If this is true, and it is, then perhaps all societies are doomed to fail eventually because humans are imperfect. If Europeans are uniquely capable of producing these societies and the best we can create is a self destructing one then what does that say? You want my opinion I think the right is to ideologically tethered to capitalism just like the left is to ideologically therhered to liberalism.We need a racist form of communism.
>>543325907>liberalism>capitalism>the leftthese are the same things>communismyou might have brain damage
>>543325983National socialism does not actually provide a methodological escape from the system of capitalism.>Sure sure brain damage he said something that's not part of my team lingoRetard.
>>543320342This that Japanese anime catgirl that smokes weed?
>>543320342You're putting the horse behind the cart, anon. It's the creation of the bourgeois class and the modern engines of prosperity that have created the system. If you look at the price of a cow in 1100AC and 1300AC it barely changed. If you give people a prosperous and functioning system *they are able to perpetuate* then freedom ensues.
>>543326494communism is identical to late stage capitalism kek a statecorp with monopoly on everything while you the prole goy equally own nothing. You fell for jewish dialect tricks and you should be ashamed
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>>543320342>excluding oilSuch as? Canada, America and Europe had oil
>>543320342>globalist corporatism is ok>because liberalism>fuck your traditionsthis nigga is the bane of the world. There will come a time when you will be leaking on the street. We still remember 2020 and your time is coming. It will be justified because of the many people your kind hurt.
>>543323100Checked and lol, we are a hivemind bror
>>543320551This. Ones making labor cheaper by aquiring unsustainable debt, damaging the repplacemnt rate, to further import refugees to depress labor further, makes profits on paper look better, trades future away for today. About to self destruct do to interest rates and hubris. In the post depression era: only nationalist countries will remain a threat both economically and militarily.
>>543320959Canada has nothing to trade and no gold to finance anything. They are China slaves and China has decide to flood them with refugees while they can, same as jews.
>>543325907What you are complaining about is again economics. And nations die when their currencies die(corruption or lack of creative solutions) If all Europeans could afford gated communities with their own private schools inside them, would they be experiencing the migrant rapefest that they are currently immersed in ?
>>543320342Capitalism is liberal. Capitalism is the best possible system.
>>543320342> world's richest nations excluding oil countries extremely liberalname one example?
>>543327224>fuck your traditionswhat is so great about "traditions"? people talk shit about tranny bullshit in liberal countries, meanwhile in backward countries (including the US) hundreds of millions of people literally get their dicks chopped at birth, or are forced to read a faggot book and pray to the east five fucking times a day while the old men hog all the women in harems, or they live in fucking india or africa where insane superstitions make life a living hell. why on earth would you want this
>>543326494>communism provides a methodological escape from capitalism
>>543320342Because jews print money to artificially reallocate resources to their shitholes making them "rich" even as their real economies are hollowed out and weakened until they collapse then they move on to the next country.
>>543320342They got rich and only then became liberal. This is because modern day liberalism is nothing but a set of luxury beliefs that you have to be rich enough to pursue.
>>543320342>>543321121Jewish pilpul >>543320342Reality is liberalism is the end product of conservativism. Conservativism.and right wing belief built reality. Now that they're dying the liberal bullshit you see now is the rotting cancer and the rich use it as an access point, a vehicle if you will go take the world over.
>>543328402liberalism is left wing you retard, conservatism is based on the constitution, which surprise surprise the "liberal" state doesn't even like
>>543320342>Excluding oil countriesTop fucking kek. What a way to straw man the fuck out of your argument and have it be the most obvious straw man
>>543328449Liberalism is the end product of conservativism. It's left wing and the coin was originally rightwing and it flips by the virtue of its degeneration. Hope this helps you pedophile kike.
>>543320342>ID: GOYNo further argument sneeded.
>>543320342Liberalism is not socialismI know what youre doing.You want to pretend that if you support classically liberal things like rights and voting, that logically that means that modern "liberalism" which is literally just socialism, must also be acceptable.Socialism is an ideological virus that seeks to infect aspects of culture it touches.The moral foundation for socialism is the thieves morality.It will never be justified
>>543328549lol no, liberalism has always been a usurper left wing ideology, defined by a constitution, without it there is nothing. It doesn't matter how many communists flood into the country, they're gnats. The best they could ever accomplish is destroying the anchor, the constitution, well they've done their best at that. But they're playing with fire, liberals are actually completely insane
>>543320342>why are all the world's richest nations excluding oil countries extremely liberalWealth and comfort leads to degeneracy
>>543328624>thieves morality.like when big tech and the financial sector rob you using the state and then maga retards defend it by calling it 'capitalism'?
>>543320342>If liberalism is so bad then why are all the world's richest nations excluding oil countries extremely liberalThey're not lmao. First of all you don't get to exclude oil countries. There's no pretense for why they wouldn't count. Second of all Israel owns the whole USA and it's the least liberal of all committing ethnic genocide of their minority neighbors to make room for their people. Third of all China is not liberal in the least sense and gets the "ick" from hearing that Rights might exist and even has the government in charge of what the culture is allowed to be.The only "liberal" countries are the ones that got rich off colonialism and are now going broke because they stopped.
>>543320551Conservative and liberal mean different things to different people.But globally standards china is a very conservative country.In terms of domestic policy americans would consider russia to be very liberal.These words dont mean anything unless they are defined, and no "educate yourself" isnt an answer.I dont know what your special snowflake definition of liberalism and conservatism is.Tell me what you mean when you use those words
>>543328755china isn't even a real country, there's a lot of those
>>543320664Rome at one point diluted the silver to make more coins.It isnt printing but it is inflating.You dont need liberalism to do it
>>543320342Most rich liberal countries are oil countries, Canada and Denmark especially.
>>543320439The US has a ton of rich farmers, some of the richest counties are most rural farmers.
lol
>>543320342because liberalism is used to deliberately destroy the successful countries.Liberalism was never the cause of the said success.It's actually that simple.
>>543320536>Didn't read your post.Except you obviously did. What's the point of even making this kind of disingenuous response? There's literally no one who would buy what you just said. If it just to be offensive then why not at least criticize his reasoning? Or do you just want to be offensive while avoiding having to construct any sort of actual counter argument?
>>543327881>I think its bad>therefore you should also think its badschools taught us about Marxists like you who like to tell and then force people how to live their lives. Can't wait till its time to see you on the street. You aren't exactly difficult to spot. We're going to find you.
