I like Muslims who try to keep Muslims in the Middle East
>inb4 a 12 word 1 sentence post is too long to read
>>543321312What does that mean, what are some examples
>>543321312bump me too
>>543321312>woman says she agrees with traditional values and that women should be housewives>except her
>>543321312Same, it's always good that not literally all of them are like that - those three genuine exceptions on the billion and a half muslims do not mean the patterns change at all though.And frankly there are both relatively and absolutely far more jews that keep muslims in the Middle East - in the dirt or otherwise.
>>543321438Are you that fucking dense Palestinians in Palestine you know Christian Muslim druze.... the filthy inferior kites don't like that though they can't prove themselves at the Olympics to be a superior Race by any metric but they're really really really really really really really really really really really good at lying & subterfuge. .Who mutilates a child and then sucks the blood from the mutilated wound?
>>543321312There's no such thing. Islam is expansionist by it's nature. Also their prophet was a pedophile and a fag who got fucked in the ass.
>>543321438Iran, Hamas, Ansar Allah and Hezbolah who kill kikes and Saudis that destabilize the region
>>543321438
>>543321618If all Muslims on earth are in a unified global monolith, how come nobody who matters acts like this is the case? What do you know that the most powerful and informed men on earth don't know? Enlighten us
>>543321725He said they're expansionist, not unified. Illiterate sand nigger.
>>543321725>If Islam is expansionist why do Muslim nations fight each other for power? Interesting point. I guess Islam truly is the religion of peace. BTFO'd him actually, wow.
>>543321785>they're not unified, they just have the exact same goals!!Pure schizophrenia.Name one instance of Iran specifically trying to expand into Europe in the past 600 years
>>543321943I'm just reading this unironically until you make an argument
>>543322040found the sand nigger
>>543322098Where was he? The white house?
>>543322156fucking your mother while you seethe online about people hating islam
>>543322784If I'm a sandnigger, why would I care about my sandnigger dad fucking my sandnigger mom? Calm down a bit and you might think of something clever
>>543322961>My reddit logic has defeated you!Where did I say you should care about your mom getting plowed my 100k isis members? All I said was you're seething about people hating islam, nigger.
>>543321312Muslims have not been isolated to "the middle east" for over 1000 years. They spread to Africa, India, Southeast Asia a long time ago, and even conquered parts of Europe for hundreds of years.When America was first founded state funded privateers from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli were accosting US merchant ships, stealing them, stealing their goods, taking the crew as slaves and holding them ransom. They believed it was their right as Muslims to subjugate everyone and force them to pay tribute as a sign of their religious subordination.We've ALWAYS had problems with Islam and Islam has ALWAYS tried to spread all over the entire world. It is a core message of Islam that Muhammad was the final word from Allah and his religion would be in every household on Earth, Global Islam. Atheists, Pagans, Buddhists, Hindus, and other religions either convert or die, Jews and Christians (people of the book) could keep their religion but live as second class citizens and pay a Jizya tax. They conquered Constantinople, renamed it, and made the largest church ever built into a Mosque. That's Islam, that's how Islam always has been.any Muslim telling you that problems with Muslims only began in 1948 and are only tied to Israel, are outright lying to you and you're buying it because you don't know history.
>>543323060Ty for the seethe receipt >>543323176>GUYS, LOOK, I NAME DROPPED REDDIT!!!Ahh but I've now posted Pepe 4chan Meme Frog™℠®© so looks like I win the authenticity battle. Better luck next time
So you don't like any of them? I can relate.
>>543323365So to get revenge for Moroccan pirates, you want to bomb Iran and help Israel expand?
Even if muslims stay in their own countries. They are too barbaric and evil to be left laying around. If it's not for humanity, it's for mother nature's best interest that islam would die out. It's nothing more but a retarded death cult that loves to treat animals and nature like shit. Same as jeets.
>>543323369>Guys look I'm ignoring the flaws in my own logic to autistically hyperfixate on a name I was called!You're a faggot.
>>543323504>lists a bunch of Muslim counties we're allies withLmao
>>543323549Flaws?
>>543323621Subhuman?
>>543323463Israel has finite borders in the bible, that only grows in 1 direction (through Syria up to the northern border of the Euphrates, the Eastern border is the River Jordan, Moses was not allowed to enter the promised land and so he had to remain on the eastern banks of the Jordan) from its current borders. So the expansion would be pretty limited. That's a boogeyman, vs the actual expansionist religion.and it's not to "get revenge" it's to stop a religion with plans of "in every household" on Earth from doing that. Islam actually does have plans of conquering the entire world, it always has. You're buying Taqiyya in believing that they only want to stay in the middle east.. while they celebrate them taking over New York in the streets.
>543323696If you had an argument, you'd have made it by now. You'll get your (you)'s back when you argue like an adult
>>543323591we're basically allies with them to try and mitigate the problems they'd cause unchecked. Note it's the ones we're not allies with that cause the most problems.
>cries because the flaw in his logic was pointed out and now he refuses to admit he was wrongprojecting your own immaturity onto others i see.
>>543323715Well you're leaving out the parts in the Torah where we're all jewish slaves as well but, leaving that aside, if you want to make the argument that any and all Muslim countries are bad, why are we allied with the worst of them (like SaudiArabia who did 9/11)? Doesn't seem like those in charge see things your way at all. Doesn't that concern you?
>>543321965Look at what they’ve done to London, Dearborn and many other cities. Iran doesn’t have to be involved for them to be expansionists. They have a religious obligation to establish a caliphate wherever they go. You are actually proving his point that they are expansionists because they do it independently of Iran.Think of Muslims as nationalists for caliphate.
>>543323916>If Muslims are bad why did American politicians ally themselves with them?I don't know I guess I'll have to get Donald Trump on the phone to talk about it, retard.
>>543323823No? ISIS and 9/11 are Saudi products. Pretty much every Muslim terrorist who has killed people in Europe was a wahhabi and wahhabism is a certified Saudi export
>>543323950>>543323916
>>543323950Oh and the mass rapes of British girls? Pakis. Another US ally
>>543324235>Gee /pol/, if Islam has done so many bad things across the world why do US politicians still initiate trade and military agreements with caliphates?Probably because the majority of politicians in America are greedy cucks who don't actually consider second and third order effects to their actions across the entire scale of the people they swore to represent. Such a faggot btw, this isn't an argument that defends Islam in any way.>>543323916neither is this- reminding /pol/ why jews are hated isn't going to make anybody hate muslims any less.
>>543323916see >>543323823it's to try to keep them in check.the parts of the Old Testament (not the Torah the Torah is just the first 5 books, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, the "books of the law") that talk about the Nations being slaves are like end times prophecy that involve:1. The entire world trying to conquer Israel2. God coming down from heaven and stopping the invasion and killing 5/6 of the people invading3. The Messiah ruling the world from Jerusalem4. The people of the nations that invaded Israel are forced to rebuild it and make pilgrimages to Israel annually to keep the feast of tabernacles.so in that stipulation, if you believe any of it is real, (like a Christian, who believes the Messiah already came and will come again, but Christians are adopted into the same kingdom not as slaves but co-heirs), then trying to wipe out Israel actually plays into that future.While not turning against them and not trying to destroy them ends up with them being a small nation with finite boundaries and an ethnoreligion that does not proselytize or try to spread beyond God given borders at the threat of God saying they disobeyed him by taking more than they were given, and causing them to be scattered from the land again in exile again.It is to the Jew's benefit that they stick to their established borders and live in peace. Or.. if Jews or Christians are right.. it's to Jew's benefit that you try to invade and destroy them, bring about the Messiah/2nd coming and end up being actual slaves to Israel.
>>543321312that is antisemitic
>>543324011he was born in Saudi yes, but they were acting and training in Afghanistan.
>>543324414Well if you could read, you'd have gathered that i very much hate the Muslims we're allies with. >>543324422>akkkkkkkkkkshulllly we help the worst Muslims because we are "keeping them in check" Huge cope>>543324470Look into the Bojinka plot (9/11 1.0). The masterminds were Pakistani, another US ally
>>543324751well we don't exactly have a plan for how to kill 1.8 billion people without taking ourselves out with them, so what would you try to do?If you believe that taking out Israel will end all problems with Islam you're a fool who buys the Taqiyya that all problems between the west and Islam only began in 1948.
>>543324958None of your examples of "problems with Islam" come from Iran. They come from our Muslim "allies". So if your retarded goal really is to destroy all Islam on earth, you still logically should hate the American government because they're not making moves to make that happen at all. They're enriching the most terroristic murderous raping factions of Islam
>>543325270Iran is also involved in it, it's just a separate branch of Islam, that still believes in conquering the world, they think setting the world on fire will bring the 12th imam (the Mahdi) to accomplish their goals.One of the major differences between Jewish Prophecy, Christian Prophecy, and Islamic prophecy, is that Jews and Christians don't think they can force God's hand (well some Postmillennial Christians think that way but they're the minority), but Islam absolutely believes they can usher in the end times, especially the Shi'a.
>>543325426Really? So Iran created israel?
>>543321312You're all the same bullshit
>>543327205>>543321725
>>543325484Israel existed before Iran, before the Persian Empire did, see the Cyrus Cylinder, which set free all the people conquered and enslaved by the Babylonians and returned their religious relics to them and provided for them to rebuild their temples.Prior to Islam the Persians were an enlightened, educated, and civilized people. In fact the "Islamic Golden Age" was not caused by Islam, but by the Caliphate absorbing the Persians who were way more civilized and literate. It collapsed into another dark age because they realized they were deviating from core Islamic tenets and had to return to pure Islam.. at the cost of stagnating their society.I'd love the Persians... if they weren't Islamic.
>>543327302Why did kikes from all over the world have to move to Mandate Palestine in the 1930's if "Israel was already there"?
>>543327741because the Romans scattered them in the early centuries AD (70AD they destroyed the temple and Jerusalem, and 135AD the bar-Kokhba revolt), and then the Muslims finished driving them out when they began expanding their caliphate. They got scattered to Europe and other places and no longer had a homeland.Your cognitive dissonance comes from 2 different sources that you believe simultaneously that contradict each other. You believe that:1. The Jews are a semitic race that is not White (the European source)and 2. The Jews aren't from the Middle East and are from Europe (the Arab/Muslim source)the truth is they're a Middle Eastern/Canaanite race that built a kingdom, it got conquered by the Babylonians, rebuilt by the Persians as a vassal state, absorbed by the Greeks/later Seleucid empire, then absorbed by the Romans, destroyed by the Romans, and finished off by the Caliphate, it's people got scattered to Europe where they intermarried and became mutted but kept their cultural traditions.
>>543328337I don't actually deny any of that. I just deny that you get to steal land with terrorism from people because some of your ancestors lived somewhere 2000 years prior. But we're getting off topic. YOU are making the claim that Iran is trying to force the hand of God with end times prophecy bullshit but you cannot deny that it was the eternal Anglo who built Israel, not Iran, which contradicts your narrative
>>543328554Israel isn't forcing God's hand for prophecy, Israel is for returning Jews to an ancestral homeland for a secular reason: that every ethnicity should have a homeland.Prior to the 1960's there was not distinct "Palestinian" ethnicity, they were simply Arabs, Egyptian Arabs and the Hashemites/Bedouins.The European mandates were simply trying to divide up former Ottoman Empire land into states.When I mean trying to force God's hand with prophecy that's the whole driving the world into Chaos in order to bring the 12th Imam.Only Muslims and Postmill Christians (again, a minority) believe they can bring about significant end times figures (like the Mahdi or 2nd coming of Jesus) through human actions.Jews believe it'll happen when God makes it happen, and the majority of Christians believe it'll happen when God makes it happen.
>>543328931Tell me what Iran specifically is doing to make this happen. All I see them doing is fighting a fake jew country built by Anglos. Also thank you for not even denying you're a zionist.
>>543324751>Well if you could read, you'd have gathered that i very much hate the Muslims we're allies with.Not once did you specify that, when your sole platform to argue about was based around "Islam not being a monolith culture". Nobody said that every Islamic nation behaved or had the exact same mindset, only that their very religion is based around expansionist ideals with the purpose of overwhelming the western world. Whether America or whatever retarded country decides to ally with cockroaches or not doesn't change that.
>>543329199>dude they're not in an alliance!! They just all want the exact same thing!!Meds
>>543329416>Dude not every single Jew is in an alliance!! They just all think non-Jews are enslavable goyim!!Meds
>>543329101I'm a Zionist in the sense that I want all Jews to go there and be expunged out of every country they currently meddle in. They want their promised land so badly? Okay, go there, and you're not allowed to live anywhere else, not allowed to participate in any Elections in any other country, not allowed to lobby or give political gifts to any other nationI see Jews as containable.I don't see Muslims as containable, That's the main difference.you're deluded into believing you can contain Muslims when their active core religious tenet is to conquer the entire world.Your only risk with pushing all Jews into Israel and just letting them stay there without being allowed into the political processes of any gentile nations is that they're right, the Christians are wrong, and that the entire world coming to destroy them brings in their Messiah and eternal slavery to Jews.... in fact you wanting to destroy them plays right into that idea a little on the nose, doesn't it?by containing them to just their promised land and not taking action against it, you would... essentially in their eyes, prevent the Messiah from ever coming.
>>543329507Uhh I didn't deny kikes are all aligned? They're the actual monolith and they project their monolith behavior on Muslims who are actually deeply divided as evidenced by all geopolitical reality
>>543321438Gaddafi. And he was murdered for it. RIP to a real ass nigga, unironically.
>>543329523Can we extend that to all semite worshippers like Muslims as well? Take em all and ship them to arabia, then wall it off. Semites and their retarded beliefs finally contained within their homelands.
>>543329590>Muslims disagree with each other>That means that Muslims in general don't want whatever Muslim ideals they specifically follow to take over every western nation (as evidenced by their 1600 years of war against us)oh ok that makes sense. if a muslim disagrees with another muslim that automatically means their religion is kind to western ideals and nationalities.
>>543321312well mooooslimes fuck goats so there is that
>>543329523>I'm a Zionist in the sense that I want all Jews to go there and be expunged out of every country they currently meddle in.Well that's imaginary bargaining table cope. Nobody is talking about doing this. You fulfilling your end of a bargain you made up in your own head isn't going to make kikes hold up their end. >you're deluded into believing you can contain Muslims when their active core religious tenet is to conquer the entire world.You've yet to give any evidence Iran is doing this. Kikes have an "active core religious tenent" to destroy and enslave Amalek. Why do you think your imaginary bargaining table will contain that? >without being allowed into the political processes of any gentile nationsThey're already in there, faglord lol. You're not gonna get them out by building them a bigger ethno state for free. >by containing them to just their promised land and not taking action against it, you would... essentially in their eyes, prevent the Messiah from ever comingYou're taking jews at face value like a goy cow farm animal. Their gay little religion is all cynical. It's just a functional seed of collectivism. They don't actually belive that shit. They just pretend to because goys won't see them as the psychopaths they are if they think they're just following a book. You are admitting you're basically a 6 year old child that could be duped easily with reverse psychology
>>543329719good luck containing 1.8 billion people that weren't all in the middle east even 200 years ago.my point about the Jew's containment is that their religion is an ethnoreligion, just for Jews, and they discourage conversion or intermarrying, and there's only like 16 million of them. Put them all in Israel, and basically travel ban them. They don't try to convert people and they have God given finite borders.Muslims don't have that. Muslims have "Islam will dominate the world" and "Muhammad is the final word of Allah for all people" Muslims actively try to convert (like they have on this board, repeatedly and are apparently successful), and believe their "borders" are global.
>>543329741When has Iran waged war on the west prior to us bombing them in these past 2 years
>>5433300241979 for starters
>>543330064You mean killing some spys and militants in their own territory?
>>543330138taking diplomats hostage and financially supporting terrror groups that carried out acts like the 1983 Beirut bombings. Beirut used to be the financial hub of the middle east, now look at it. Thanks Iran.
>>543330295But according to you they're just sandnigger Islamo commies trying to conquer the world so why do you care?
>>543330366Because the more we can secularize them away from Islam, the less they are into the whole conquer the entire world thing. It's when they get more deeply committed to their religion that they become dangerous.pre 1979 Iran was people we could work with.Islamic revolution is what destroys these countries and spreads their rot because they start taking that book seriously again.My problem isn't against Arabs, it isn't against Turks, it isn't against Coptic Egyptians, it isn't against Persians.It's against Muslims.
>>543321312Most Muslims live outside the Middle East.The older generations typically prefer Muslims to stay since they don't want them to be corrupted by Western culture. But a good portion of the young generation, mostly male, would move to the West given the chance. The only fellow Muslims they'd try to stop from immigrating would be their female relatives for the aformention reason, but no one is gonna go out of their way to convince others to stop. .t have American visa, but only to work temporary, save money and gtfo because i have no intention fo raising kids in American culture,
>>543330505Well the Muslims who did 9/11 and provided the ideological foundation for ISIS are our biggest allies so I'm not going to take you seriously until you oppose the US government and acknowledge they're not taking your anti Muslim agenda seriously.Crazy how cozy "Islam haters" are with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.....
>Hmm, you hate muslims and jews? Denounce america then!Are you retarded?
>>543329968So the answer to the Muslim problem is obvious then, no quarter given.
>>543331203pretty much, unless we can steer them away from the religion with secularization.
>>543331241Nigger, we topple secular leaders in the middle east. Saddam, Giddafi, Assad, Mubarak, etc
>>543331635Saddam at least was not secular, Assad was, I can't remember enough about Gaddafi. UAE is pretty secular, Jordan secular, ... Turkey WAS secular but then Muslim Brotherhood came in.
>>543324011>Pretty much every Muslim terrorist who has killed people in Europe was from Saudi Arabia.That's a blatant LIE - despite Muslims from all Islamic countries always have been permanently on the top of our Violent Crime statistics, the Palestinians and Iranians have committed even more deadly terror attacks.
>>543331854Saddam was absolutely secular for the region. The problem was he was an arab nationalist which is scary to Israel, the county you support because of contrived retarded imaginary bargaining tables you invented in your own head
>>543331949Not what I said. You're playing dumb too aggressively to not be seething
>>543332060Saddam had murals of himself riding white horses believing he was the Mahdi
>>543332107That's not why he was overthrown, we were allies until he got scary missiles. He was secular. Cry about it
>>543332231>believes he's the Mahdi that will conquer the world>secularpick 1
>>543332315Just because he was a narcissist doesn't mean his government wasn't secular. Keep coping
>>543321312>I like Muslim who try to keep Muslim in the Middle East Based
>>543332479Most of the Muslim population isn't in the Middle East, its Southeast Asia, India, and Africa. The Middle East is only a minority and a stereotype.
>>543332436>Just because he was an Islamist.....also there was a reason why the Taliban relocated to Afghanistan.The Saudis are more secular, the Taliban were more Islamist, a better group of people to work with and take harbor with.
>>543332657>wahhabism is secular>depicting yourself on a horse is IslamofacistLmao
>>543321312they think setting the world on fire will bring the 12th imam (the Mahdi) to accomplish their goals.This is absolute bullshit. Shias think there needs to be mass Sunni death for the 12th imam. It's literally why Iran and Shias are not just non-expansionist, but ANTI-expansionist.God gave all kafirs a potent antidote to ANY AND ALL potential Islamic problems with the Shias (two actually; Mohammed prophesized that Arab domination would end at the hands of a people that today are accepted to be described as Mongolians).
>>543323504Hate Muslims and/or brown people all you want. Maybe you're justified, maybe you're not.But I hate this argument about "nature's best interest".Mother nature is a cruel and sadistic whore who would see you and your offspring brutalized by brown bears or torn apart in storms or literally poisoned by fauna or weird rocks that have been equipped by this whore to give off funny quirky particles called alpha and beta particles. Speaking of radiation the sun will outright try to kill you if you don't know what you're doing.Why do retards feel the need they owe anything to mother nature, outside of sustainable practices that will help humans in the long term?>>543333045Sorry meant this for >>543325426
>>543328337>the Muslims finished driving them out when they began expanding their caliphate.I can't tell if you're a naive idiot who fell for Jewish lies or a lying Jew.I've met Jews. Hell, I lived in Montreal where I was volunteered to be a literal shabbos goy for Jews and had a zionist phase.Everyone of them, EVERY ONE OF THEM, whether leftist or Zionist and right wing larper, would prefer my shitskin Muslim ass to a christian. They spent all day with the kind of straight up locist polemics that would make a BLM guy seem tame.They straight up tell me that they were glad I am Muslim and friends with them, and they wished they had a magic button where all Muslims just forget Palestine and teamed up with them against evil whites.Wanna know their opinion on ottomans? They loved ottomans so much that the state of Israel joined the Turks in denying the Armenian genocide.The anti Palestinian rhetoric they have now? Montreal Zionists had that for Armenians just because they loved the ottomans so much.Why, you may ask?Because before before Jews were migrating to mandatory Palestine, the ottomans were literally funding and subsidizing Zionist migration to the area.In the 1700s, the Jewish population in current day Israel was in the mere thousands. And those guys were paid by the ottomans to take care of the ruins of their temples.Zionist Jews bragged about how their people were single-handedly behind ALL the whitewashing of ottomans amongst European intelligentsia from the 18th century onwards, and the Turkish republic in the post ww2 period.RIGHT WINGZIONISTJEWSBRAG ABOUTWHITEWASHINGTURKS AND OTTOMANSIN EUROPE AND AMERICA You goyim seriously need to infiltrate Jewish spaces and learn more of their beliefs. You would never fall for their bullshit this way
>>543332107Nobody believed this.That was polemics against Iran
Can't believe the thread is gonna die now.Fucking JIDF pussies.Go on, brainstorm in your group chats how you're gonna counter my post
>>543331949>Palestinians and Iranians have committed even more deadly terror attacksSuch as?
