prev >>543306279Christianity is a dying, modern, globalist religion, influenced by jews.'Faith' is a Judaeo-Christian concept uttered by quivering men in dresses that usurped the traditional fides and made it anarchic. Cult is rooted in the Latin cultus, meaning established or accepted religious rites or customs of worship. Roman religio was centred on praxis and knowledge, with some rites enacted 30 times to achieve the desired results.Christianity infects nations, it kills the original culture and kills the original beliefs.Christianity and judaism are two sides of the same coin, equally as evil.Christianity is tied to Israel, it is not from your home soil, it does not, and will never belong to you.Race/Culture/Religion are intertwined. This thread applies to all people across the world who have fallen prey to the Christian infection.RETVRN to your roots:European KVLT was around for 5000 years before the Christian infection. Rome syncretised heavily, if you are European, you are a Roman.Mesoamerican belief systems (such as the religion of the Aztecs) were practiced for at least several centuries to a millennia before the Christian infection. Many more places across the world that have been infected.Research your own ancestry, and even do a (non-jewish owned) DNA test, see where you come from, then research what they worshipped before the abhramic invasion. Start a family and teach them these original beliefs. Do not let a foreign abrahamic religion overrule you.>inb4 kikeNo. I denounce the Talmud, which I shouldn't even have to do because I dont give a fuck about that kike abhramic slop.>inb4 larper/LARPaganIt's not really possible to larp as your own people>inb4 deleted thread for "off topic"That is an invalid ban/deletion. This is the most important political situation that affects the world.By posting in these threads, you irrevocably denounce the Torah, Talmud, Koran and the Bible of your own volition.
>>543326190>'Faith' is a Judaeo-Christian concept uttered by quivering men in dresses that usurped the traditional fides and made it anarchic. Cult is rooted in the Latin cultus, meaning established or accepted religious rites or customs of worship. Roman religio was centred on praxis and knowledge, with some rites enacted 30 times to achieve the desired results.
>>543326205>Roman religio was centred on praxis and knowledge, with some rites enacted 30 times to achieve the desired results.
>>543326235>>Roman religio was centred on praxis and knowledge, with some rites enacted 30 times to achieve the desired results.Fedoras, go elsewhere. Adam Green is a great media content creator, but he is disguising rational materialism under a very old, and elevated spiritual doctrine.
>>543326190why would I return to the same problems Greek philosophers had to cope with
>>543326306Why do you prefer Jewish problems?
>>543326532how is this a flex? Nobody prays to your "god"?
>>543326721>Jews made thisAnd how is this a flex?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_founded_by_the_Romans
>>543326782genetic fallacy.I could say that Romans and Greeks converted to Christianity so it's more right, it's the same argument.
>>543326978>I could say that Romans and Greeks converted to Christianity so it's more right, it's the same argument.Do you really think forced conversion and genocide is 'conversion'?>Genetic fallacyHighly relevant to ancestral cult, not relevant to the Judaeo-Christian universalist egalitarian proto-communism.Also highly relevant when it comes to JEWS. I always found this Dyer defense laughable. If it was Japanese, Slavic, or Norse people, fine, but I think JEWS are a MASSIVE RED FLAG for most people.
>>543327065it was forced only in some Germanic towns not in Southern Europe so I don't understand how "it comes from this or there" is relevant on whether it's true or not. You began with the Roman Empire. Stick to it. Otherwise you have to admit your religion was relevant only for shithole mudhutters which again defeats your argument about might and ancestry.
over 2000 years later and christcucks STILL cannot provide a rational answer for this
>>543327287The roman state literally outlawed paganism, you goddamn retard. Worshipping at a pagan temple carried a death sentence… that means they were forced away from paganism.
>>543327287You have a very flattened view, which is not surprising given your Christianisation. All of the European ancestral cults have had their glory days in various ways, as well as later after Rome.The various cults persisted under the veneer or in opposition to Christianity. Rome filled in the missing patchworks. But on its own, it is the only fully intact tradition we have that could be revived tomorrow if we willed it. It is not the only civilisation of its type, but it is European's last touchstone to a deeper and higher Aryan ancestry. That is why they try to fit other cults against it, when historically, they worked together. Hence imperium. Rome itself acted like it recognised these cults with Interpretatio graeca/RomanaThis works especially if you take a view like Hesiod, Ovid, and Virgil of a singular 'golden age' from which we stem and to which we shall return in a cyclical manner, which is a notion repeated across these Indo-European branches. This is literally what the imperial cult is trying to revive, stated in its own works. But most of it was lost.Secondly, you are turning a logical rubric that has limit use into a thought-terminating cliche, as if we cannot critique it. It actually works the other way, you are employing a genetic fallacy against native European cults because of your adherence to the jew commie cult. The truth is not the truth when it comes to you from a bunch of jews and when it usurps and inverts ROMAN concepts and institutions, that should be underlined in red and bold. What is traditional in Christianity is not semitic, on its own it could not generate these institutions, that was Roman paganism, and that is why it is unstable and generates schism after schism, and collapsed it almost immediately after abandoning the ancestral gods as Zosimus says. The numen was lost.Whatever is in Christianity, exists in a higher, elevated and purer concept in Romanity.Any more thought-terminating cliches, worthless traitor
>>543327656>The roman state literally outlawed paganism, you goddamn retard. Worshipping at a pagan temple carried a death sentence… that means they were forced away from paganism.>>543327287This also. I was going to say it, but it was so obvious it slipped my mind.Christcrazies ALWAYS argue in bad faith and jeer at you like (oddly enough) demons. It is a dark force blinding Europe. Light the eternal fire.
>>543326190>DEUS VULT
>>543326190devil
>>543327744>It is a dark force blinding Europe. Light the eternal fire.PAGANG RISE LIKE FIRE.>Driving away evil with thy light, Agni, shine upon us with wealth—>driving away evil with thy light.>Do thou carry us, as with a boat, across hostile powers,>O god whose face is turned everywhere—driving away evil with thy light.>Do thou carry us across (evil) to welfare, as across a stream with a boat—>driving away evil with thy light.>Rise up, O Agni, spread thee out before us: burn down our foes, thou who hast sharpened arrows.>Him, blazing Agni! who hath worked us mischief, consume thou utterly like dried-up stubble.>5 Rise, Agni, drive off those who fight against us: make manifest thine own celestial vigour.>Slacken the strong bows of the demon-driven: destroy our foemen whether kin or stranger.
>>543327795>PAGANG RISE LIKE FIRE.
>>543327287>it was forced only in some Germanic towns not in Southern Europethis is false, spain and greece had pagan holdout regions until the 600-700s
>>543327744>jeer at you like (oddly enough) demonsand SJWs, BLM activists, and reddit users, there is common connective tissue between the christian brainrot and the equality obsessed secular crowd
>>543327779I'm a pagan and unlike christkikes, Muslims respect my religion and call me their brother. That we got christcuckey was such a disaster for the white man, just LOOK at the fucking "civilization" we got with christcuckery! Colonialism, oppressoin, exploation, hatred for other ppl, arrogance, genocide of pagans in North America and other places. To be honest, and I think many feel it like me, as a pagan they are in many ways closer to me than the fucking white christcucks. who gave us the shit societies in Europe the last 2000 years with so much oppression. People are tired of uneducated and ingorant christcuck's intolerance and bigotry against ethnic minorities (Jews, etc), religious minorities (Muslims, etc), sexual minorities etc. . Christcucks destroy everything. During the Roman Empire and the time when we worshiped our forebears and the gods of our forebears, we had sexual freedom and we didn't even need the term for sexual minority, cuz everyone did whatever he wanted sexually and could do as much as drugs as he wanted, cuz nobody cared! It was fucking PARADISE ON EARTH but then the fucking christcucks came and ruined it all!!! Also, a pagan we must remember that Hitler hated christucks and loved Islam and Muslims. Same reason why I do the same thing. Muslims had their divisions like "13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar", "13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar", and the Free arabian legion, just like the Based Blackk Men from africa also served in Hitler's SS. Also Islam gives you fucking FREEDOM and not like christcuckery that says EVERYTING is a fucking sin, doing drugs, multiple sex partners at the same time, minor attracted etc, so clearly I will side with MUSLIMS against the fucking christcucks! Watch some Adam Green videos and learn about the danger of christcuckery!Slava Ukraini Slava Perun Heill Óðinn, Sire!
>>543328007Muslims are just as guilty as chriggers. Muslims forcefully converted Aryan pagans just like christcucks did. Picrel is from when muslim Afghans forcefully converted the Nuristanis to Islam in 1896.
>>543326190JANNIES: YOU MUST NUKE THESE JIDF BOT THREADS. NOW. RIGHT. NOW. Enough with this garbage. Enough.
Does anyone have the "Christianity = man fallen, Nazism = man rising" infographic?
>>543328165>>543328007Even today in Pakistan, Muslim shitskins regularly kidnap and murder the few remaining Aryan pagans. Kidnapped women are forced to marry muslims and convert.
>>543326190So fucking true fellow pagans. We must fucking destroy the intolerant christcucks and what they did to us for 2000 years: Their civilization was shit, X-tian Europe wants me want to wommit, and I fucking hate so much the last 2000 years of Euroepan history, but I'm so fucking happy we left it and now have freedom to do whatever the fuck we want and no cunt god to tell us what to do or anything!!
>>543328365>>543328471It’s so fucking funny how much these threads make memeflags seethe
>>543328365>JANNIES: YOU MUST NUKE THESE JIDF BOT THREADS.>NOW.>RIGHT.>NOW.>Enough with this garbage. Enough.>it's scared.
>>543327944>and SJWs, BLM activists, and reddit users, there is common connective tissue between the christian brainrot and the equality obsessed secular crowdA lot more than you know.No different to talking to one of them, the same rabidity that consumed us millennia ago. Jews are very good at rousing the irrational element in man, that is 'faith'. That is why I was so opposed to its use in the heading.Collection of accounts of Christkikes corrupting Roman and Greek women, and their patrician/king husbands killing the subversive depopulationist demons we are taught to revere as saints and 'martyrs'. Martyred for brainwashing Roman women into not fucking their husbands because rabbi yeshua was coming soon. No different to the modern climate change 'don't have children for the environment' cults. Become 'voluntary eunuchs for the kingdom of god' through (((equal mutual consent))). Sound familiar? They prey on women and turn them against their husbands, like feminism. That's what the proto-Commie Christcuckianity was.The entire Christian sexual abstinence formula is a non-surgical method of 'spiritual castration'.... KEK to become like spiritual women for Rabbi Yeshua. I have seen grown men in their 50s and 60s on Christian podcastss literally talking about their 'consummation' night on the 'coming' of their 'lord'. Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
>>543328819>voluntary eunuchs for the kingdom of god'Chriggers were lopping their nuts off so much it had to be forbidden at the Council of Nicaea. An ancient Christian Basil of Ancyra himself even compared the epidemic levels of Chrigger self-castrastion to the mother cultist Galli who were known for lopping their nuts off and throwing it into people's houses then taking women's clothes from it.>Valesians were a Christian sect entirely self-castrated and forced it on guests or travellers they lured in.
>>543328853Judaeo-Chrigger self-castration pt2. The Church ((('Fathers'))) (not blue-eyed Swedes in case you're wondering).
>>543328633>>543326190>>543328165>>543328452What do you mean seethe? You sound fucking fake as you not only coordinate with others, as you are the main OP, but you also hate Muslims and Islam. Don't you fucking fake pagan know that BOTH us pagans AND us in the sexual minority community have a GOOD and RESPECTFUL relationship to Muslims and Islam and ONLY fucking Jews and christcucks hate Muslims so that makes you fucking most likely a FUCKING JEW!!
>>543328819>The entire Christian sexual abstinence formula is a non-surgical method of 'spiritual castration'.... KEK to become like spiritual women for Rabbi Yeshua. >Become 'voluntary eunuchs for the kingdom of god' through (((equal mutual consent))). Sound familiar?This is how women get moral power over men, by sexual shaming.
>>543326190WTF is pagan solution to the foid problem? Tell me now, Pagan.Pagans keep bleeding from their anus about christians, but never ever ever ever talk about pagan belief in itself except some vague aesthetic bullshit about "MUH WEST"I can never accept that a foid can be a goddess and worshipped. It repulses me at the very notion that pagan could tolerate a female goddess. It's the quintessential cuck mysticism.That shit is worth mass slaughter of pagans.Christians and Muslims have a good prospective on foids and acknowledge their inferiority and duty to obey man.Meanwhile the pagans have female priests like those tranny church types, they have foid goddesses and worship whore god like Freya or Aphrodita/Venus. It's disgusting and i never hear a pagcuck subhuman even mention any solution, dogma or anything of religious worth.Ancient pagan Romans and Greeks for instance didn't need to even write anything religious about that because it was obvious to everyone where women belong and what's their status, but in modern world with its broken society, we require that, but i don't see any solutions to cucked by women gods like Zeus or Odin to provide.
>>543328899Muhammad raped a 9 year old btw. You have to go back>>543329383>chrigger>posts jewish memes that slander the only people on the planet who can birth White childrenThank you for further proving how anti-White you abrahamics are.
>>543329383>WTF is pagan solution to the foid problem? Tell me now, Pagan.Gladly, since you asked.Constantine famously revoked tutela mulierum (male guardianship) and made women equal a decade after his Christian vision (they customarily didnt convert until deathbed 'officially' so all sins would be forgiven). Scholarship now proves that the institution vanished by the time his authority reached Egypt. the Pater was absolutely sacred in Rome, an epithet given to gods, senators, rulers, and fathers, jesus said to 'hate the father' and to 'call no man father'. that is like cursing the gods to pious and turbo-patiarchal Graeco-Romans.
>>543329491>>543329383Roman male guardianship law. Boys and girls have male guardians, boys until puberty, girls before and after puberty.Whatever you can invoke, we do better.
>>543326190Interesting.
>>543329526>>543329491>>543329383Apollo is the god who instituted paternal right and primogeniture, which persisted via Roman law over Europe for millennia, though substantially weakened by Christianity later on, which it temporarily kept in check.
>>543329581Apollo is the Hyperborean god of filial succession, imperial nomination, and paternal right. The Doric mode and classical order dedicated to manly virtue, piety, and upright masculine strength.
Surprised the short SEA monkey goblin isn't here shitting up the thread as usual
>>543329635As you can see in that, Augustus was seen as an Orestes figure invoking the Eumenides myth, as an avenger of paternal right, and he overruled Cleopatra's gynaecocracy with Roman paternal right.'Rome, Jealous Guardian of Paternal Right and virile spirituality' , in Evola's words.>Roman patriarchy was no sociological accident, but a metaphysical form of conquering divine authority, solar in nature and imperial in expression. It was the active, world-shaping principle whose numinous lordship descended from sacred ordo and expressed itself through conquest, law, household, and cult, the empire standing as its visible figuration. Where Rome advanced, the father-right advanced with her. Gynaecocratic civilisations, mother-ethic cults, queenly dynasties, chthonic priesthoods, and lunar sovereignties, from Etruria and Carthage to Nubia, Cleopatran late-period Egypt, and Judaea, then beyond these lands to the Gauls, Lycians, Phrygians and Anatolians of the Mother, Lydians, Syrians of the Great Goddess, Cantabrians, Thracians, and the Germanic seeress-peoples of the northern marches, were drawn beneath the solar jurisdiction of Roman patriarchy: the world of pater, lex, fas et nefas, imperium, hearth, spear, and sacrifice.
>>543326190> /raKg/White faith revival/wfr/faith isn't a curseword, it also denotes hope and the will to prevailGods and Goddesses have a say in this and their ways are by definition incomprehensible
>>543329646The Bulgarian was in like four or five threads last night, distributing free bumps.Last one. Cato the Elder's speech during a proto-feminist revolution.Papinian's line is a bit famous because he says the Roman law has many places where women are considered inferior. I can also discuss Cato>In multis iuris nostri articulis deterior est condicio feminarum quam masculorum.>[…]>There are many points in our law in which the condition of females is inferior to that of males.>Papinian, Questions 31, preserved at Digest 1.5.9; trans. Alan Watson et alThank you for your question cringe-Anon: >>543329383
>>543329984Christianity's first converts were women and slaves. It absorbed the local Isis cults endemic to the region, and it eventually led to full female emancipation (in Rome, not even talking about modernity yet).
>>543328007>Muslims respect my religion and call me their brotherwait until moooslimes are 10%
>>543329383>>543329581Pythias
>>543330091>It absorbed the local Isis cults endemic to the region, and it eventually led to full female emancipation (in Rome, not even talking about modernity yet).Here is archaeological and scholarly evidence of conversion from Isis statues to Mary statues, keeping her prayers, titiulature, rites in Mary, and transposing her feminine submissive spiritual disposition.H.-G. Severin jokingly calls the Isis and Horus modified to be Mary 'Isis with Christ Child'.It is a bridal cult for women. 'Bride of Christ'.
>>543328440Found it (Bing Images ftw Google didn't return shit)
>>543329383More on Roman patriarchy, symbolised by the hearthfire. >>543327795The cult of the hearthfire was centred on the masculine intellection and ancestral genius of the father.>Tu, genitor, cape sacra manu patriosque Penatis; me bello e tanto digressum et caede recenti attrectare nefas, donec me flumine vivo abluero.>[…]>You, father, take in your hand the sacred things and the ancestral Penates; for me, fresh from so great a war and recent slaughter, it would be impious to touch them until I have washed myself in living water.>Virgil, Aeneid 2.717–720, trans. H. Rushton Fairclough, rev. G. P. Goold, Loeb Classical Library 63
>>543329792>Augustus was seen as an Orestes figure invoking the Eumenides myth, as an avenger of paternal right, and he overruled Cleopatra's gynaecocracy with Roman paternal right.
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>>543328819>I have seen grown men in their 50s and 60s on Christian podcastss literally talking about their 'consummation' night on the 'coming' of their 'lord'do what now? the time they lost their virginity or something else?
>>543331003Epithets such as Zeus Pater, Iovi Patri, Mars Pater, Ianus Pater, Liber Pater, Dis Pater, Tiberinus Pater and Zeus Soter, Hercules Soter etc. are attested. The Ptolemy dynasty also styled themselves as Soter (saviour).Chrigger thefts:>Dominus noster (Our Lord) is attested on coins minted by Diocletian and Maximian (co-Augustus). It all fed the language of the patriarchal household>Soter (saviour) was applied to Zeus, Hercules and Greek rulers. 'Saviour of the world' (Sōtēr tês oikoumenês) was applied to Julius Caesar and Pompey, the former whom had a statue with a giant orb demonstrating rule over the world. It was a militaristic title that acknowledged the role of warfare in maintaining order. >divi filli — son of (a) god. title of Augustus. On every Roman street sign.>princeps pacis—prince of peace, literal roman imperial title, rooted in conceptions of Martial (mars) peace and Augustan peace>king of kings, imperial title>pantocrator, title of Zeus, applied to Hellenic Rulers>Pontifex Maximus, title of Roman pagan priesthood, originally the role of the Roman king associated with rex sacrorum, king of the sacrifice, split into several offices, reconsolidated by Caesar and Augustus. Usurped by Chrigger pope. True Pontifex Maximus is the Caesar.>pater patriae: father is a title alluding to a sacral king that ONLY makes sense in a pagan religion, like sacrifices. For jesus to say 'hate the father' to romans is high blasphemy to Roman pagans. Fathers were absolutely sacred>Invictus, title of Julius Caesar, deo invicto>Adventus Augusti>advent, Epiphaneia>Epiphany>Theos, Theios Aner/Andros, god-man ascribed to Hercules invoked by Roman emperors/Hellenic Kings.on and on and on. Virgil's Fourth Eclogue was stolen by Chriggers for Yeshua, when it was for Augustus.>Caesar as the god of July, Augustus for August>Helios Kosmokrator, Alexander the Great, Light of the WorldGive the titles back to us if they are heretic or 'pagan'.
>>543328819> No different to talking to one of them, the same rabidity that consumed us millennia ago. Jews are very good at rousing the irrational element in man, that is 'faith'.jews, jews are everywherewhy are the most educated people the most retarded oneswhyhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=yi6vw3L5W6Y
Did you know?The reason the Spaniards toppled the Inca and Aztec empires with 0 effort and easily converted their ENTIRE populations to Christianity within the span of a few years (and basically completely wiped out their original religions lmao) was a very simple one: their religion promised enforced monogamy to the average male.
>>543331352No. The second coming of Jesus is well known as a marriage consummation in Christian theology with the Christians taking the role of the bride on the wedding night. It's all over Christian literature. The Christian tradition has a well-developed bridal interpretation of the Second Coming: Christ is the Bridegroom, the Church is the Bride, and the eschatological union is figured as the marriage feast or consummation.>Matthew 25:1–13. “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’I can't find the video, but it was a big Christian podcast with 4 or so American men with white beards talking about how it is the 'consummation' night with their lord, as they are the 'Bride of Christ'. Here are adult men talking about their bridal consummation night with their 'Lord'. Adam Green was playing it on his stream and he called it gay. I tried to find it after but he never showed the title.
>>543331651>>543331352Older versions literally say>The Bridegroom cameKek. GaaaaaaayI mean, I am not exaggerating the sexual imagery. That's what wedding consummation is.
>>543331579Christianity is subversive and dysgenic. Yet, encouraged celibacy of the most intelligent men, and the most devoted women is worse than enforced monogamy.That was at least societally stabilizing, without requiring conquests for outgroup virgins.
>>543331352>>543331821If you want the deeper theological reason for this, it's because it started with Israel. Christians are the 'New Israel', and originally Israel is shown in the old testament as the 'apple of the eye' of god and god's bride. Thus the church is inherently a feminine, submissive and egalitarian body, to Christ. it subverted a lot of Roman patriarchy in order to impose this and absorbed the bridal cults in the region>>> >>543330469
>>543328365Shut the fuck up dorkus
>>543328899Kys
>>543329526Interesting ty
>>543326190>European KVLT was around for 5000 years before the Christian infection. Rome syncretised heavily, if you are European, you are a Roman.
>>543326190Jews hate this thread.
Converting to Christianity is a pagan tradition.
>>543334227Begone, evildoer. This thread is protected by the sacred flame of the houselord, >>543327795 and by the gorgon. Your Jewish rabbi has no power here.
>>543334227>sacrifice dog in field to prevent wheat rust with a ceremony>catholics: brutally murders your people for no reason >catholics: okay lets do that without the dog sacrifice #converted
>>543334485Looks like a dog was ritually sacrificed to me; though perhaps not a very faithful one.
>>543334524human sacrifice is an entirely different level of insanity, but don't let the church fool you, europe was rife with it. We just uh, have virtually no evidence of it. also they were all faggots, which relies on mistranslations and contextual misinterpretations. But if you pick up a book at a local library about greek philosophy we will immediately reference homosexuality
Total jew rat bullshit above.truth remains of the past we can observe and touch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bumTx0TdJHk&list=PLIlhHsktaSRmYfePnvnGarhgmUzJq6eTo&index=2&pp=iAQB
>>543334825>human sacrifice is an entirely different level of insanity,That's why they worship one based on a criminal and an insurgent against the State, and want to bathe you in its blood.Remember that the Roman patriciate founding myth, celebrated every year on the Regifugium with the ousting of the (((matriarchal tyrant king))), consists of Brutus ending the sacrifice of little boys to the mother goddess, Mania, putting to end 'a criminal and unholy sacrifice' instituted by Tarquin Superbus, of the Etruscan and Asiatic matrilineal dynasty. (His father also previously instituted a similar important slave mother cult that factors into this.)>Idque aliquamdiu observatum, ut pro familiarium sospitate pueri mactarentur Maniae deae, matri Larum. […] Nam capitibus alii et papaveris supplicari iussit, ut responso Apollinis satisfaceret de nomine capitum, remoto scilicet scelere infaustae sacrificationis.>And this was observed for some time, so that, for the safety of the household members, boys were sacrificed to the goddess Mania, Mother of the Lares. >For he ordered supplication to be made with heads of garlic and poppies, so that the response of Apollo might be fulfilled with respect to the name ‘heads’, while, of course, a criminal and unholy sacrifice was discarded.>Macrobius, Saturnalia 1.7.35
>>543326190Your the religious anthropologist from bongland, we spoke before. Did you watch the Chinese movie Curse of the Golden Flower ? It shows the rebellion of the mother goddess against the skyfather, but with a twist. Unlike all western media it does NOT root for the mother goddess It is more sophisticated, and more advanced than any western jewish media. It shows that yes, the sky-father is cruel in his punishments, (it even makes you fully understand, and be tempted to the plight of the Goddess) however, the cost of her rebellion on the empire is demonstrated to be a complete waste of life...and ultimately impossible to fulfill, as the cosmic order cannot be overturned. It is projected as an entirely futile endeavor, that costs the lives of so many. The movie ends with the inevitable victory of the skyfather and return to cosmic order. The message is clear, do not rebel against the order of the cosmos or you will be crushed.The tragedy where those caught in the middle. The eldest son of the Emperor, his heart was with the mother, but his mind with with the father. He is the spirit of the contradiction, his emotion is with the mother, but his foresight made him warn her against her designs for the good of harmony. The movie was naturally blasted as authoritarian chinese propaganda in the western press. As for your take on Christianity as aligned with the mother entity, i will address it in further posts
>>543326235>>543326235Jewipediia garbage get something earth is flat earth earth kingwdwardt
>>543331265>hiraeth
>>543326281Exactly trojan who were an catholic and etrucans who were roman catholic foucault was right and you are mentally disabled Fatima zeitoun la sallete and the demons test gave false prediction ad urged evil good like jp Morgan the chaba inbred occultist used Aristotle was a catholic and diofense Alexander the great greeks were flat earthers romas were together gaygan or the dumbest still smarter than ballers
>>543335319>>543335422>>543335319>Jewipediia garbage get something earth is flat earth earth kingwdwardt>memeflag gpt is spazzing out, can't derail or report spam thread, now resorting to flooding good info with gibberish to make it unreadable.It's scared.>Plutarch, Coriolanus
>>543326281Many p hall Regan and communist nasa factory ft rretcsand prots schematics and mosaad sayanim itsvan bakony Maurice Pinay etc debunked and refuted you assholes there is no judeo christianity catholicism predated Judaism since the beginning by how long 6000 years
>>543326782Etrdcanss were catholic trojans were catholic Celtic yes the aquaducts and buildings of constatine the great ugh Theodosius greats Aristotle was a catholic you are not educated Alexander the great papal Zoroaster knew before hi Atlantis trojans etruscans Celtics the progenitor Brutus catholicism you are not educated read ZoroasterismSxhlemann proved it UK tried suppressing it Joseph was a pontiff his empty tomb in the valley of kings nasa is fake Constantine greatnbuilt Rome catholicism built Rome etruscans ad that immaculate god lady and 3 divinegnostics bastards rediting warping you disingenous Christianity built Rome deviated then returned Socrates Aristotle and etc say one god not gods because they are catholic of trojan priesthood and this is bot retarded gaygan invasionariesDaily rminder zoroasteras a roman catholic and deviated
Threadly reminder to create family lineage pass-down artifacts.>>543290343 (4.)
>>543326782Wrong jewipedia tour history language and vulgate proves etruscans latins and trojans Atlantis starting off Aryan language group old latin priesthood and Zoroaster nasa they are not people Zoroaster debunks Judaism md he was defrocked from catholicism like the Arabia priesthood 1500 1000 bc you shills stehistory facts and they you judeo freemasonixc damndestto dent Constantine the great his excellent historical understanding you filthy ratshit bastard Constantine the great never failed his flat earth qoutes correct understanding of faith reason ad no apostasy etruscans roman catholic kingly monarchial noble line taught for everything and visited the papal states
>>543327656Wrong modnyou ar judaized uneducated satanized judeo freemasoncized phony histories te papal of Melchizedek has nations monarchrybcoming out of it Abraham is of the trojan vast empire expanse hittiess existed troy edted etruscans Atlantis existed fact you denied them for inred jews who never existed jews and freemasonix and dodenying christ the vulgate and the monarhies vistiing blender af Garry's mod drumpf and satanic fiend and anti chrit psychopath asgole at dfon island Ireland cgi crap and moon landing hoax fetzer eron on acid fake moon rocks chabad nik inbred illiteracy no geometric horizon zetetic astronomy flat research sociey here satanist.judeo freemasonix has a fake archaelogy tribe f Judah is historically white Titus smashed it jews are now white larping invasionary shlomo sand
>>543335222Continued; Allot of what you write claims that the Christian Church is entirely matriarchal in its spiritual makeup and expression in the world. It isn't, its syncretic, its an expression of the two forces that plays out in scripture - the head of the church is always a man. Another interesting thing i see people of your tendency doing is claiming that Judaism en toto is of the feminine, when it clearly is not, esp Torah (Kabalistic mysticism is when it begins incorporating eastern feminine elements - also note how the Jews where originally patralinial not matralinial - raises the question as to their actual ethnic origins). Then how you can claim Islam is similarly feminine perplexes me. Islam subjugated the actual Goddess religions in the region. Goddess worship is much more prevalent in Indian paganism, which still practices temple prostitution and so on.
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>>543327365No idiot christ UK is judaizer something Hitler Franco Mussolini Petain and etc defeated their ancestors before enlightet defeated all orthodoz schismatic judaized af all it Nero was a jew xuckdnd he believes their lies and did thei god deity bidding Judy Ruth bader aka miss Santa muerte ad Santa ria drumpf faggot a racially range bksher faggot satanic gay child porn baby fujing inbred illiterate asswip family of trash shit needs burning at the stake
>>543326190Based. Christianity is a jewish falsehood. There is no truth in it.
>>543327365You inbred epicurean has not not paradox not a scientist you are not educated asa is fake atomic energy nukes are fake Charles shit eating lewinjy um we put you paf corupt baby fuji g child porn rig Linda Tripp Mussolini Petain fraco Hitler right pathetic earth is flat gshy
>>543326205Faith is pistis, not fides. It means "to believe in and follow the evidence". This is true in Christianity just as it is in Platonism. There is no such thing as faith without understanding. Someone with no apprehension of truth cannot be in faith.
>>543327656Etruscans were catholic
>>543335983Continued;I think you misunderstand Christianity, even the Bible as a whole. How anyone can argue esp that the Old Testament is somehow aligned with the Goddess religions is beyond me, God explicitly commanded them to violently wipe those religions out, (specifically naming those who worship Asteroth, and sacrifice children). Literal massacres of the priesthood of Baal and Moloch are commanded. Moses had something like seven thousand people killed for reverting to Calf worship (eastern religion). The sacrifice of the young was seen as esp decadent because it shows the society went away from lawful self sufficiency to gaining power by demoniacal means. The texts are completely against usury and so on. You took issue before with the story of Able and Cain, suggesting it implied Cain was bad because he was a chad ? No, Able brought forth blood offerings from animals, Cain brought forth vegetables which God rejected. Then Cain goes on to establish towns, associated with the transition to agrarian society. God intended that they remain pastroal and semi-nomaic. God always pushes against technological innovation and urbanization. Cities in general are viewed with suspicion, as the people are divorced from the immediate material processes of life. They become detached and unnatural habits develop Also too much social stratification, in the pastoral time each man had enough, it was a sustainable model with no growth factor. Hunter society before it was more Gods ideal, equilibrium with the design. Technological progress seems to be considered an illusion in Biblical terms (there are beings beyond man who can see the folly of human wisdom).
>>543326190>Christianity is a dyingyeah keep dreaming Shlomo. You just have to eliminate 500M whites and then your wish will become reality. JANNIES MUST NUKE THESE JIDF BOT THREADS NOW. RIGHT NOW. #killthebots#savepol
>>543328899that's hilarious. Yidslam is of the same stock as the other garbage of Abraham. Atheistic Yidslam blasphemes against the Gods all the same. Those Muslims who pray to Hubal aren't heard. The Lord of Muslims does not listen to them.
>>543337156On Christ, you agree that sin debts accrue from your Roman and Greek religions ? The underworld holds ledgers against which humanity is pegged. Perpetual sacrifice was required in all hitherto religions to propitiate the underworld. Christianity is God coming in a human avatar and giving himself to clear the debt, for those who enter into the ritual covenant. It is the ultimate ritual through which Hades can be averted. To enter into the covenant blots ones name from the ledgers of the underworld.People have tried through all time to escape the underworld and its vessels that walk the earth. Different mechanisms have been found to partly avert subsets. But ultimately sacrifice is required. They demand blood. So the blood of Christ is given to purchase those who enter his covenant.Without this you are under the legal jurisdiction of the prince of the earth and underworld. Hades, Pan, Dis, Yama, Dongyue Dadi, Azazel, Samael, Sataniel. Rebellion of the human sort cannot work against this force (no sorcerer has ever succeeded...they all had to merge with it and are on contract assignments, but they are subject to it), it required propitiation to settle the account
>>543336613Christianity uses fides as the Latin term for faith. The Vulgate repeatedly has fides where the Greek New Testament has pistis: for example:>Romans 10:17 has ergo fides ex auditu:>'therefore faith [comes] from hearing'>Hebrews 11:1 likewise begins est autem fides..., and the same passage proceeds to speak of understanding through fides: fide intelligimus.>Ephesians 4:5 has the familiar una fides, 'one faith'.>Augustine of Hippo defines it (De trin. 13.2.5) as fides quae and fides qua, belief in the body of Christian doctrine and the faith which takes place in the heart and mind of the believer.In fact, the English word faith itself came through Anglo-French/Old French feid, foi from Latin fides. So in an English Christian context there is a very literal historical chain here: Greek pistis > Latin fides > Old French feid/foi > English faith. There is therefore nothing intrinsically 'non-Christian' about fides. Quite the contrary: fides is one of the central Latin Christian terms for faith, and Christian theology continues to use it as such. The Catholic Dominus Iesus, for instance, explicitly speaks of faith in terms of personal adherence to God, assent to revealed truth and trust in the one who reveals it.>Chriggers deflecting running and hiding in non-classical reading of Pistis.>Latin Christianity itself disproves that.>They always play these semantic games while pretending not to understand the argument.It's scared.For a religion of so-called 'truth', they lie constantly. That is Chrigger 'fides' for you.To a Roman-Aryan, lying is worse than murder, as it harms Being itself. Chriggers lie like their semitic spiritual fathers, as they breathe.Ironically, Yukio Mishima says that Christianity taught Romans how to lie and caused them to lose their valour and simplicity. It always sticks in my mind.
>>543337802etymology of the bible is very interesting, like charity
>>543338089>caritasWould you care to enlighten us to what you find interesting? I am not sure there is as much of a stark difference between the pre-Christian and Christian versions of the word as there is in fides and pistis, but I would be glad to learn if you have a good point to make.
>>543338294oh if you don't know I don't want to spoil it for you
>>543326190Personified larping is personified larping no matter if it's jesus or OdinReal existing divinity doesn't look or sound or think like a person. It doesnt answer personal wishes or ask you about your day. It exists differently, above and beyond and before. There is only SOL. All other created gods are theistic Eidolons and inherently lesser.Praise SOL
>>543337802Did you read my posts ?Look its simple, you know from your study of all world religion that the gods require sacrifice ? they require blood in many cases. This is the archonic grid/the powers and principalities of the nations are demigods. They are all connected to the underworld (you will notice that projecting them as happy beings of love and light is a much later development in history), in the primal religions they are terrifying and wrathful and want blood sacrifices.Set aside your ethnic politics momentarily. Does the concept of a divine avatar being sacrificed to propitiate the collective debt not make sense to you ? You are aware that these underworld beings hold ledgers on every man ? (attested to by every civilization Plautus >Jupiter, the ruler of gods and men, scatters us among the nations to observe the deeds, the conduct, the piety, and the loyalty of humankind... We bring back to Jupiter written reports of those who commit crimes. He keeps a ledger of the good and a separate ledger of the wicked.>The Archives of Minos: Virgil writes that the judge Minos shakes the sacred urn to summon the silent souls, acting as a Roman magistrate reviewing legal briefs to investigate lives and crimes ("urnam movet; ille silentum consiliumque vocat vitasque et crimina discit").Ge Hong >"In heaven and earth there are spirits that preside over crimes, taking away from a person's life-days according to the degree of their offenses. As days are subtracted, a person becomes poor, wasted, and plagued by illness. When the days are entirely exhausted, the person dies... The Director of Fates (Siming) calculates the ledger. For a major sin, a ji (300 days) is erased; for a minor sin, a suan (3 days) is taken."These are archons/rulers over the world and the underworld, how can you pay them if none are righteous ?It required intercession and through the blood payment there can be perpetual confession and forgiveness
>>543338327Oh we are on to more bad faith crypto-Chrigger mind games again.>>543338683Every time I attempt dialogue with a dedicated Christian, it always turns out like this. No exchange is possible and they take my information and apply it to their own headcanon without fully understanding the picture. Your faith won't allow you, as I said previously.You are just not understanding the arguments or metaphysics very well, and frequently go off into esoteric tangents that don't seem very well founded. My arguments are clear. Islam has the ummah ( أُمَّة) which is their equivalent of the brotherly ecclesia and synagogue. Muslims call you 'brother' and 'sister' when they consider you one of them. A Muslim girl once tried to call me 'brother' and I rejected it, she then began calling me 'sir'. Jan Assmann is an Egyptologist, so his argument about monotheism being rooted in the Isis cult strongly applies to Islam as well. Islam held over some Persian warrior ethics, like Christianity incorporated some Roman concepts and institutions temporarily, but it's even more egalitarian 'merely human', Semitic, and lunar in disposition.It doesn't matter if they break down goddess cults because it does not absolve them of the typological characteristics and inheritance. I don't have anything further to say to you on this matter if you are not getting it. It's a fairly common experience when trying to talk to the 'faithful', I'm afraid. You are not willing to see outside of your religion and entertain new ideas without bending it back to square one. I don't really think this thread is for you if you are going to make Christian arguments, maybe you should find a Catholic general.
>you should worship your ancestors... for some reason>but not your closest ancestors from the last 1000 years that worshipped christianity - those ancestors are stupid christcucks>you should those older ancestors you have no clue about>better yet go all the way to prehistory and worship our common monkey ancestors - return to monke, start eating bananas and throwing shit at people from treesIs this new larpagan mossad psy-op the most retarded campaign that ever graced pol?
>>543339274I addressed your point, there are two main archonic powers over the earth. Yes one is Solar - concerned with order and prerogative masculine principals, the other is Lunar and feminine, but dark (not feminine in the human sense, in fact profoundly evil from a human perspective). Your hypothesis that semetic religion is inherently feminine and roman religion is chad and based, is ridiculous reductionism. These forces interplay within all religions and cultures, yes some are predominantly one of the other, but its an interplay.Saying Jewish scripture esp Torah is ''of the lunar feminine persuasion'' is ridicules. Have you ever read those books entirely ? (not just snippets). It's a thoroughly patriarchal codex. Same goes Islam (just look at Islamic society....does it look matriarchal to you ?). The religions your referring to as with the lunar feminine tendency prevailing would be later enimations of jewish mysticism. Indian folk religion centered around goddess worship and temple prostitution (key aspect of actual Aryan religion). These are much closer to the cults of Isis, Astroth, Innana, that prevailed in the middle east before the chad Abrahamic skydaddy cleared them out. Interestingly the jews (assuming they are even actually ethnic jews which im suspect about) pivoted back to goddess worship when they incorporated Gnosticism into their doctrines under philo in Alexandria. Its around this time the goddess religion takes a foothold in Judaism again.Lastly i see you talk allot of these gods, dis-pater, pan, Hades. You refered to the Tua De Dannan before (Dan), the Dagda ect ect. I dont know if you are aware THESE ARE ACTUAL BEINGS THAT WALK THE EARTH IN HUMAN FORM. AND THEY ARE NOT YOUR FUCKING FRENS. Whatever about the conflict between the two sides, they are not human. Dispense with all anthropomorphism for a moment, revert to what the primal people understood, these are profoundly anti human cathartic beings that exist in a subdimension.
>>543339274let's just say europeans were always more virtuous than their desert cousins
>>543326190Thank you for fighting the good fight OP anon. I have long held the view that Christianity was a semitic tool of conquest by a Jewish priestly branch. Prior to Christianity they were but a small tribe in the Levant, largely inconsequential. Christianity was their best plot. They made the foreign men bow to their spiritual vision and view the idea of God only through their culture and authority.Luckily nowadays Christianity is dead. It is not "just hanging on", it's literally dead. Most of its followers are just Evangelical tools for political agendas, and the others are third world brown Catholics.One thing I'd say though, is returning to "cultural origins" directly won't do you much good. The ancient people did not know the world as well as we have come to know it. It's best looked at as a study guide and place of ideas - I don't think you will get anywhere by worshipping Zeus and doing animal sacrifice again.
>>543326190>"the pagans are our own people!">*cannot name one traceable non-Christian ancestor*Infantile and idiotic.
>>543340162Pseudointellectual and repulsive nonsensical drivel.
>>543340359>chrigger hypocritically playing the ancestors carda classicyou started this, you get your own medicine
>>543340409I don't see you providing any arguments, thus I'm assuming you have none.
Stop responding to these Redditbrained trannies threads.
>>543340162Anthropology can teach you a lot about the human condition and why people are so fucked up today. Disconnection from nature is a huge one of them. Humans are a part of nature, paganism was a reflection and rationalization of everything people discovered in nature. Europeans didn't build temples and horde food in them and use that to raise peasant soldiers loyal to a godking. Chinese developmental history is actually pretty hilarious, where their priest kings gained authority not through prowess or crop monopolies, but religious chicanery and faux rituals.
>>543340557>Disconnection from nature is a huge one of them.Go outside. Go hiking deep in the woods, save up for a farm in the middle of nowhere, take trips to scenic and remote wild areas. Absolutely nothing is stopping you from this. Ancient deities were cool personifications but I'm not worshipping "lightning", "wind" and "the sky". I know exactly what they are and there is nothing mythical or worth worship from there.
Can any of the big brains in this thread explain why IRL pagans are fat gay neckbeards while Christians have families and jobs?
No
>>543340676Well there were tons of civic and virtue orientated gods too, it wasn't elemental nonsense. For example the "veil" was the edge of the village.And that's where they put their cemeteries, and met with rival tribes. I don't know. They "knew" what lighting was, but still ascribed a higher meaning to it. For example, at the edge of their territory they would have the oldest oaks, which woudl get struck by lightning. A message from the veil, surely?
>>543340677Well they serve the state like a good goy
>>543340848I mean trust me, I get the mythology and lore aspect of it, and that's great. I love all kinds of fantasy books and getting deep into the lore that goes on deep. But don't you think it's worth treating this more as culture and mythology rather than dedicated worship? Because once you have to rationalize why you worship this, it starts to fall flat. This is actually the same problem Christianity has as well, it simply doesn't hold up in reality so once you get a competent population it doesn't fly.
>>543340929So the way to secure a future for white children is to eat goyslop, play video games, and jack off ?
>>543341056*eat goyslop, play videogames, jack off, get a slampig, stand around with your thumb up your ass all day and wonder why satanists are eating your country alive
>>543341048well if it's culture then those are the virtues that people actually posses in their rawest form
>>543334825Human sacrifices had already become frowned upon by the second Punic War.Tiberius completely outlawed them among druids. Human sacrifices in Roman cults were outlawed a century prior.And by Julian's time Roman pagans seized to make bloody sacrifices at all. Julian himself was an exception, though.If you want to talk about human sacrifices, then never forget that the bread and wine are literally the flesh and blood of Christ. Quite cannibalistic, eh?
>>543339934>we wuz reel kikes. honest! wuddnt ya like to know? stop being such a shmuck.No wonder he has to act so (((creepy.)))
>>543341274I think the bread and wine thing is much more symbolic, as desert religions really linked the connection between priestly orders and food. And I still firmly believe that executed pagan prisoners and criminals was the main body of "sacrifice" and it was readily misinterpreted as originating as an offering in order to gain something. I think the offering in order to gain something is a huge part of determining if it was human sacrifice or execution, which nobody, at least on the surface, seem to care about.
>>543337802All that text just for you to try to bury the fact that you admitted that what I said was true within the first sentence. The original Bible uses pistis. Pistis is where the notion of faith comes from, and it inherently involves following evidence and trusting logic over the senses. Any faith not built on logic is not faith.
>>543340676>>543341048You were turned away from this thread within the first replies.
>>543341456>I think the bread and wine thing is much more symbolicIt is explicitly not symbolic. If you disagree, you are a heretic who will suffer in hell forever.>Official teaching (such as the Catechism of the Catholic Church, CCC 1376) states that the bread and wine truly, actually, and substantially become the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ.>If an Orthodox Christian teaches that the Eucharist is just a metaphor or a symbolic reminder, they are teaching a heresy that was officially condemned at the Seventh Ecumenical Council (Nicaea II, 787 AD).
>>543341639>if you don't worship lightning or rabbi yeshua, here's your fedora XDIdiot.
>>543341576This is how Chriggerbrains argue. By increasingly narrowing their mind for their (((faith))). See why I wanted it removed from the title?The really amusing part is that the New Testament itself supplies counterexamples to this absolute formulation. Paul writes:>διὰ πίστεως γὰρ περιπατοῦμεν οὐ διὰ εἴδους>for we walk by pistis, not by sight.> 2 Corinthians 5:7 Wow it makes sense why you would act like that with such retarded beliefs.And Paul's Abraham example is even more of a problem for that formulation. Abraham is described as believing against hope:>Against hope, he believed in hope.>παρ’ ἐλπίδα ἐπ’ ἐλπίδι ἐπίστευσεν.>Romans 4:18So where is the lexical demonstration that pistis inherently means 'follow the evidence'? The (((Enlightenment)))?Even worse, there is a subtler problem too. Even accepting that pistis is historically connected with peithō (persuade), the Chrigger has committed the etymological fallacy of treating a word's derivation as its complete meaning. A word can develop a much wider semantic field than the root from which it came.>pistis is related to persuasion;>persuasion can involve reasons;>therefore pistis inherently means following evidence;>therefore anything lacking his conception of rational evidential assent is 'not faith'.This is theology masquerading as philology. or Chrigger ((('faith')))And notice what has disappeared entirely from the hapless Chrigger's response: my actual discussion of Roman fides. He hasn't answered the Roman evidence; he has simply declared that the Greek word used in the New Testament is the only one that counts, then defined that word in a way favourable to his theological position.Is this really what Semitism (((faith))) does to your brain?
>>543341757>I'll come in the thread and make it aaalll about me thank you OP!Notice how everyone hates you. Maybe this thread is not for you, maybe you should make a fedora general? Why does Adam Green want to smuggle in (((Enlightenment rationalism))) into an ancient school. You did not even read the posts decrying this, and cannot address them beyond bland >muh matter.... because!The Enlightenment selected all of the democratic and empirical elements of the ancients while leaving anything that affirms transcendence, hierarchy, power, numen and spirit. Then called it classical. That is Post-Christianism. The ancients believed in a cyclical history and metaphysics.It's obvious why you have no father and no heritage. The ancients would hate you, your own ancestors from antiquity would think you're sick. Or maybe they were proles like you too.
Okay but how
>>543342021>Notice how everyone hates you. Maybe this thread is not for youYou're actually right, it's not for me. This thread is for primitive dogmatic superstitious hicks on par with Christniggers. I thought this was an anti-Christnigger thread hence why I came in, but it shares all kinds of degenerate tendencies of mysticism and magic thinking with Christniggers.Enjoy your wooden totem dildos and animal sacrifice and inability to describe the world authentically in any way, like you're from a random village from 2000 BC. I'm out, and won't reply.
>>543342189>He learned his place before the towering giant too tall for him, even if he tried to act better about it.Golden Age here we come!
>>543341891I'm a Platonist. Platonists and Christians both use pistis because logic is first and foremost in their theology.>for we walk by pistis, not by sight.That's also perfectly in line with Platonism. The senses are deceptive, only logic can be trusted.This thread is a pathetic larp made by a poser who has no idea what he's talking about. You aren't a Platonist, you don't want to return to tradition, you simply want to attack religion in general because you're an atheist.
>>543342121Idk, maybe embrace Platonism? Especially since Christianity was influenced by it anyway. Just remove all the Semitic elements. Also, despite having a Greek origin, it allows the sincretism with whatever pagan remnants left in your culture. Also, Platonism as a philosophy quite alive today, except it's the mathematical Platonism.OP himself seems to be rather concerned with the culture (and particularly, Roman patriarchy), not with the religion revival.
>>543326190based
>>543342402It wouldn't be too hard if people returned to the soil really, that's where archeology really shines. Bonfires, or bonefires, were when most animals were slaughtered and their bones thrown in the fire. "Oh this is a sacrificial ritual surely", but the bone ash and wood ash was collected and scattered on the fields. It's kind of hard to separate paganism from daily life of people because it was simply a rationalization of it, see. It is an encyclopedia of how people lived before Christianity
>>543326190Christ is king. Come at me demons.
Threadly reminder these brigading spam threads are made by jews and their brown petsNot one single kike pretending to be pagan in any of these pagan larp jew psyop threads has ever genuinely answered the question:>Name one "pagan faith based belief" you have that was shared by pagan ancestral EuropeansThis fully exposes the jew shills making this thread.Let it be known not one single shill can answer this question without lying or pilpuling around the obvious definition of "faith based belief."They come up with mindless cope and shallow lies like the Sun is "god" but can't say the sun is even sentient, thus obviously proving it is not a "god" in any way European ancestors believed.These jewish shill threads are not about retvrning to ancestral "faith" they are about begging goys to stop being Christians because the protocols of zion orders jews to destroy Christianity and replace it with "new traditional religions**Protocol 17 order #5
>>543342257>he's larping as a white man to escape now that he's pinned downMy Greek is not as good as my Latin, but if I recall: in Plato's famous epistemological schema, pistis is not the rational/intellectual faculty at the top of the hierarchy at all. In the Republic's Divided Line, Plato distinguishes four conditions of the soul:>eikasia: imagination/conjecture;>pistis: belief;>dianoia: discursive thought/reasoning;>noēsis: intellectual understanding.The first two belong to the visible realm, whilst dianoia and noesis belong to the intelligible; Plato explicitly places pistis on the sensible side of the division.>Platonists and Christians both use pistis because logic is first and foremost in their theology.That makes this rather problematic.If you want to invoke Plato as an authority, Plato himself is inconveniently placing pistis below dianoia and noesis. The term is ordinarily translated as 'belief', not 'logical apprehension'. The lexicon is similarly unhelpful to that definition.>LSJ gives pistis a broad range including>trust, faith, belief, confidence, assurance, good faith, trustworthiness, credence, and even credit>it does not define the word as following evidence or trusting logic over the senses.>So he has now moved from pistis means X>to Platonism teaches X, Christianity teaches X, therefore pistis means X.>reverses the proper order of argument.>He needs to establish the lexical and historical meaning of pistis first; he cannot simply define the noun according to his preferred Platonic-Christian epistemology.>hasn't read any of my posts referencing Apollo and the Lambda drawing from Neoplatonism.>ad hominem 'atheist', another public meltdown>saying someone who publishes explicitly religious material must secretly be an atheist is plainly not something he has established from the linguistic evidence under discussion.What made you think you could larp as a Platonist Chrigger, if you can't even handle your own scriptures?
go back to your ancestral third world homeland, mass migrant
>>543326190>see where you come from, then research what they worshipped before the abhramic invasionHere's the problem fag, for the most part WE DON'T KNOW what they did or how they worshipped anything, the only thing we know is some statues with names inscribed which may or may not have represented deities. Your "European KVLT" sounds fucking gay and has no basis in anything. This is not a defense of kikestianity so don't even start.
i wouldn't expect a gypsy to know this, but nobody was talking about "abrahamics" before pajeets swarmed the internet. that's the perspective of an extreme foreigner, thinking "abrahamics" go together like bk kids club
>>543343237Noesis is the result of long held pistis. Noesis is not mere "intellectual understanding", it's communion with Intellect itself. You aren't in a state of noesis until you're engaged in noetic return, which is oneness with One. It's painfully obvious that you're just regurgitating AI slop and you've never read Plotinus, Simplicius, Iamblichus or any other philosopher in your entire life. Just stop, these larp threads are an insult to people such as myself who have actually spent their lives studying and practicing real philosophy.
>>543342974Partly true. Indeed, something like a pagan harvest celebration today would be at best symbolic. It wouldn't mean to us what it meant for the pagans of the past, since most of us don't really harvest.However, some other rituals are perfectly applicable! Prayer, divine invocation, libation, meditation, fasting. If you wanna go into mysticism, then divination and theurgy.
>>543343598You do realize "prayer" in the form of talking directly to your god is a uniquely abrahamic concept right
>>543343670Retard
>>543343724Go on and show me examples of ancient pagans doing any such thing. Oh wait, it happened in your imagination
>>543343670It literally isn't, lol. The whole point of prayer is to ask for something. Or maybe I misunderstood you. In this case, elaborate.
>>543343821Sacrafice and requesting something like a good harvest is a form of prayer
>>543343980I pray to thank God for a safe day. Not for things.
>enter thread >expect to see proper discussions on what makes christianity or old faiths better / worse politically speaking>it's just text / image dumps and people calling each other jews
>>543343598I don't know ancient Druidry might have given Christianity a run for it's money for how much power it had. Maybe that's why they had to destroy it. There's no other religion on the planet that had people worrying about sustainable living and maintaining ecology, remained neutral and could tell kings what to do. And this was born almost entirely out of natural philosophy
>>543343592>mutt's law for AI slop>I am now AI because Plato places pistis in the sensible section, and he doesn't like it>regurgitates appeal to authority gish gallop slop, deviating even more from the original point.>response is increasingly becoming an assertion of intellectual credentials rather than an argument capable of being checked against the texts.>quietly abandoned his original claim about Plato: pistis = rationally grounded belief > therefore Christian faith is fundamentally logical.>Now: pistis > noesis > 'noetic return' > oneness with the One.That is a much more specialised Neoplatonic construction, and it does not establish what Anon originally claimed about the ordinary meaning of pistis.Plato's Republic directly distinguishes pistis from dianoia and noesis. In the Divided Line, the sequence is eikasia > pistis > dianoia > noesis, with pistis belonging to the visible realm and noesis to the intelligible. Plato's pistis at this point is a belief/opinion concerning sensible objects, whilst noesis belongs to the higher intellectual apprehension of intelligible reality.invoking Iamblichus actually opens an even larger can of worms for the 'logic is first and foremost' formulation. Iamblichus explicitly develops a Neoplatonism in which theurgy and ritual have a fundamental role that goes beyond discursive philosophical reason; scholarship on Iamblichus specifically describes his Reply to Porphyry as rejecting Porphyry's overly intellectualist approach to theological matters.You have now changed the argument from Plato's pistis to a particular Neoplatonic account of noesis, and neither establishes your original claim that pistis inherently means 'following evidence and trusting logic over the senses'. I have made Plato's schema clear. in Plotinus, the One itself transcends Intellect and intellection. So before accusing anyone of ignorance, you need to distinguish Plato from Plotinus and lexical meaning from your own theological synthesis.
>>543344032A safe day is the something you are praying for, dummy.
>>543343980Ancient pagans "asked for things" by making offerings at their deity's temple and receiving some effect in exchange as they perceived it They did not really have this concept of sitting down and having imaginary conversations with their gods, that is what I'm referring to as uniquely abrahamic.
>>543344052It's either a bot thread or spam from an AI using jeet. The OP has never in his life read any Greek philosophy and has no concept of what theism is about.
>>543344123Jews loved sacrificing things at their temple
>>543344156So did pagans retard, what's your point?
>>543344115It happened so I thank him. I do it everyday.
>>543344189And their God what, lived in a box?
>>543344105It's obvious you're using AI slop because every post you make is just a text dump of irrelevant bullshit. The Greek word pistis, even in common use, simply meant "to follow the evidence". That's what it meant to the Greek philosophers, and that's also what it means to the Greek speakers who wrote the Bible. Faith always was and always has been an act of setting aside your senses for the sake of following the logical evidence, or in other words using reason to discern spiritual truths. No amount of you text dumping is going to change the fact that you were wrong and that you don't understand this topic at all. The more you try to split hairs and cite technicalities, the more you dig your own grave because it shows that you're a sophist who hates wisdom passionately.
>>543344105>>543343592>Plato is AI slop because Chrigger doesn't like it.>Don't you know I read Iamblichus! Totally rational, noetic Neoplatonist. No theurgy at all. I swear! Why don't you believe me?>It's not Chrigger larping my pastor told me about to make Plato kosher, I swear!
>>543344259Ancient pagan gods were seen as aspects of reality and part of the living breathing world which is again why it would be retarded to sit down and talk to them. You should really just stop asking retarded questions and go do your own research
>>543344326Iamblichus's theurgy was rational. It was an extension of reason via the law of correspondences. You're a complete and utter moron.
>>543344123They did.Xenophon asked Zeus for military advice. Pericles built a temple (iirc it was a temple) to Athena after she told him about a remedy for his injury. If we go outside of the Greco-Roman world, Zoroaster had quite a lot of conversations with Ahura Mazda. So, no, talking personally to a god during prayers is not a uniquely Abrahamic thing.
>>543344293Anon has been doing this since he focused on only the first response in my message, now he has moved to AI accusations. Is this Chrigger pilpul? >>543341576>All that text just for you to try to bury the fact that you admitted that what I said was true within the first sentence.>No you can't type unless it's within the lines I set and keep changing!>Keeps adding more arguments then cries that it's AI when I address them, all of my posts are highly detailed and autistic since the first OP. Now that he doesn't like it, he wants to contain it.Yep, it's Chrigger pilpul.You keep changing the proposition under dispute whenever the evidence becomes inconvenient. First you said pistis simply means 'following the evidence; when that was challenged, you appealed to noesis and later Neoplatonism; when the Platonic distinction was supplied, you dismissed the response as 'AI slop' rather than answering it. That is not a defence of your original proposition. If you want to make a lexical claim about pistis, give the Greek passages and lexicographical evidence that establish 'following the evidence' as its inherent meaning; otherwise you are simply insisting upon your definition and you have lost 5 posts ago. Stop shitting up the thread because you lost and can't admit it, Chrigger.
high quality thread, nice to see some anons who aren't retarded or paid to pretend to be
>>543344375I'm simply stating that ancient judaism has a lot in common with paganism, their language is also extremely limited in scope. And it presumably evolved into an intangible all encompassing God during their exile and the later destruction by the romans because they were not able to make sacrifices at their temple. This is when "asking for things" came into being, out of necessity.
>>543344576I didn't change anything. You're the one attempting to change topics in every single post you make, you dishonest jeet rat. I said that pistis meant "to follow the evidence", and you threw a big gay autistic temper tantrum while trying to bury the fact that I'm objectively correct. You've never read Plato. You're never read Aristotle. You've never read Plotinus. You've never engaged with any philosophy in your entire life. You aren't a theist. You aren't a Platonist. You aren't studied in these subjects, and every post you make is a testament to your own ignorance. These threads are nothing more than an embarrassing larp. If you had read even the slightest ounce of philosophy, you would not be making the kinds of posts that you make.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistis>All three modes of pistis occur in logos as it appeals to logical persuasion.
>>543344505I keep my focus on roman and celtic realms of mythology and that's generally how their approach was. I think it's probably worth noting that those examples you mentioned would have been so notable because it would have been unusual. It was not a common perception that the gods involved themselves personally in human lives outside of the blessings or effects made through offerings, and those people were powerful figures so it would make it even more notable. Look at how the gods specifically decided to speak to me, this means I am divinely chosen for this position, etc. I honestly think they were egotistical liars.
>>543343237I would put it too you that you dont understand what Christianity is. Those ancient gods you know so much about ? The ones that behave like pissed off loansharks and constantly demand oceans of human blood or the hellgate opens ? (what do you think wars are ?...you dont really believe that has anything to do with politics do you ?) Thats your Tua De Danann (immortal sorcerers/elves/vampires/faeries who walk the earth....''the gods'') orchestrating harvests. The entire world and society is a sacrificial grid complex. The entire social architecture esp financial institutions are soul entrapment mechanisms. The gods of the underworld demand sacrifice >Leviticus 17:11: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement by reason of the life.">Exodus 12:13: "And the blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you are; and when I see the blood I will pass over you...">Matthew 26:28: "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.">Romans 3:25: "...whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness...">Hebrews 9:22: "And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission."What is Christianity ? Its a blood ritual to propitiate the underworld. The ritual is re-enacted continuously through the sacraments. The blood of God in the flesh ''having blotted out the handwriting in the ordinances that is against us, that was contrary to us, and he hath taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross; having stripped the principalities and the authorities (demigods), he made a shew of them openly -- having triumphed over them in it''.
>>543326190As a Christian I am happy for you to find something you have that represents you. If you go to Hell we can only laugh at it but you may not and be right. You aren't my enemy just deluded.
>>543333538We need to make a social media tradition of taking pictures of touching the arch like the wall
>>543344978>here's some fiat currency oh great rome, buy a hat
>Dyaus-Pitr in the Vedic tradition represents the primordial Sky-Father and is the archetype of pure, unchanging cosmic consciousness>Uranus (or Ouranos) is the primordial Greek god who personified the sky and served as the first ruler of the universe>His name translates to "sky" or "heaven" in Ancient Greek. The Greeks envisioned him as a physical dome of brass studded with stars that arched over the earth.>In Vedic philosophy, Indra—traditionally called the son of Dyaus (the sky father) and Prithvi (the earth mother)—is interpreted at a psychological and spiritual level as the embodiment of luminous mind and active consciousness>Both Indra and Zeus wield lightning bolts as their signature weapons to defeat primordial, chaotic monsters (Vritra and Typhon, 2 monstrous serpents) that threaten the cosmic order. This striking parallel is one of the most famous examples of comparative mythology, originating from a shared Indo-European heritage.>In Vedic philosophy, Indra is often recognized as the cosmic mind and the supreme architect of the manifest universe. The Rig Veda views him not just as a deity of thunder, but as the supreme cosmic force, the Divine Mind, and the ordering principle of creation that manifests on a microcosmic scale as the human mind that is elevated when "struck" with his lightning bolts. >In Platonism and Neoplatonism, the Greek god Zeus is reinterpreted from an anthropomorphic figure into the Demiurge (the rational artisan of the universe). https://youtu.be/2B7AU6Rc6lM?is=jSVvmoYOZQs_ekiN
Platonist bruised ego thread melty
>>543344904>>All three modes of pistis occur in logos as it appeals to logical persuasion.The quoted passage is specifically discussing pistis in rhetoric. It says that pistis can mean 'proof' or a 'means of persuasion', and describes particular rhetorical modes in which an argument appeals to the intellect or logical aspects of an issue.>changing topics>mY original topic is precisely the relationship between Roman fides and religious concepts of faith.>He has successively demanded that you discuss only pistis>and then his particular interpretation of pistis, then noēsis, Plotinus, Iamblichus, theurgy and correspondences.>The person continually introducing new philosophical terrain then crying AI is not I.The person continually introducing new philosophical terrain then crying AI is not I.>The person continually introducing new philosophical terrain then crying AI is not I.The person continually introducing new philosophical terrain then crying AI is not I.Why do Chriggers always do this?Always.>These threads are nothing more than an embarrassing larp.Ah I see, the real crux of the matter. I was right from the start.Why do they always call us atheists for the Jewish death cult?He even tried to pretend he was not a Chrigger and justify it with Platonism, a pagan philosophy.I have been talking above his head this entire thread.Why do Aryan KVLT pagans have higher IQs than Chriggers who infalte their 'faith' into ridiculous proportions, growing more and more deranged?Kikes know how to unleash the irrational.Time to RETVRN to KVLT over this dead and broken's Chrigger's braincells (christbrain.jpg).Another public BTFO. First was a rationalist, this one is a chrigger larping as a human (pagan philosopher).Why do kikes have an inferiority complex?They say evil cannot create, only (((imitate and invert.)))>still hasnt addressed any points, dont need him to
>posting in the best autism containment thread
>>543345284It's a fun subject.
>>543345246>another embarrassing spergout attempt to bury the truth in textYou were wrong and you lost. I'd suggest for you to go actually pick up a book if I thought you cared at all about philosophy, but you clearly don't. You don't love wisdom, you don't love truth, you don't want to approach divine Good, you don't believe in divine Wisdom. Every single post you've made has been an attempt to warp the truth to suit your own personal passions. Disgusting. At least be honest and make these an atheism general, instead of trying to drag the ancients through the mud with your embarrassing dogshit posts.
>>543345044>PIE Perkwúnos, commonly translated as "the Striker" or "the Lord of Oaks">the raw, dynamic force of the storm>Oaks are the tallest trees in European forests and are frequently struck by lightning>manifested as a stone hammer, a club, or a double-headed axe that he hurls to create lightning>the battle against a multi-headed serpent or monster >blocks the world's waterways or steals the celestial cattle, and Perkwunos must slay it to release the life-giving waters back to the earth>Jupiter was deeply revered as the "Oak God," with the oak tree serving as his primary, most sacred plant symbol. Every single oak tree in ancient Rome was legally and religiously considered the property of JupiterOak bros WYA
>>543344916If we're talking about Platonism, then the prayer is an interesting case. First of all, the gods are unchanging and perfect. So, when you pray, you don't change the gods, you change yourself. Proclus wrote a short book titled "10 doubts about the providence". He addresses this issue there.
>>543326190>By posting in these threads, you [CANCELED] irrevocably [/CANCELED] denounce the Torah, Talmud, Koran and the Bible [VOLITION-INVERSION SNEAK ATTACK CANCELED] of your own volition. [/CANCELED SNEAK ATTACK BY INVERSION-OF-VOLITION]very very luciferian/satanist kinda disclaimer, sneaking in this wack contract at the end of the OP! fortunately for anyone who disagrees with OP (or agrees with him but didn't want to feel coerced into any such denunciation), I serve the goddess of JUSTICE & TRUTH, MA'AT, who accepts both abrahamics and anti-abrahamics, as well as non-abrahamics who are not anti- those who are or are not, and thus recognize that an OP post has no more legal authority than any comment, so hereby institute a counter-law:>By posting in these threads, you become free of all irrevocable statements of any kind & gain the power of revoking anything at any moment you so choose, gaining FREE WILL if you did not so possess it prior to this moment and preserving it if you still maintained it by some immunity despite your exposure to OP's dark magick.By posting in these threads, you become free of all irrevocable statements of any kind & gain the power of revoking anything at any moment you so choose, gaining FREE WILL if you did not so possess it prior to this moment and preserving it if you still maintained it by some immunity despite your exposure to OP's dark magick.>By posting in these threads, you become free of all irrevocable statements of any kind & gain the power of revoking anything at any moment you so choose, gaining FREE WILL if you did not so possess it prior to this moment and preserving it if you still maintained it by some immunity despite your exposure to OP's dark magick.my ancestral kult allows for the simultaneous and non-simultaneous use of any and all reality tunnels and denounces any requirement for opposition between abrahamic and non-abrahamic reality tunnels and/or their sacred texts. :)debate in peace! TRUTH SMILES
>>543326190The only fucking general worth a fuck. Heil OP.
>>543345397>if trump can double down when backed into a corner so can i!! just fake it til you make it!!>endless cope, can leave at any time, stayed to the end being utterly btfoThread is still real btw and I believe it. Death to Rabbi Yeshua. Does that hurt you Chrigger vermin?>>543327795>>543327795>>It is a dark force blinding Europe. Light the eternal fire.>PAGANG RISE LIKE FIRE.
>>543345426>The Lightning Flash (or Barak) in Kabbalah represents the zigzag pathway through which divine energy descends from the infinite source into creation, touching each of the ten Sephiroth in sequential order.>The Lightning Flash is frequently called the Path of the Flaming Sword."I am the Spirit of the vital breath, the intelligent Self. As such, worship me as life, as immortality."-Indra, Kaushitaki Upanishad, Chapter 3, Verse 2"a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."— Genesis 3:24
>>543344598>high quality thread, nice to see some anons who aren't retarded or paid to pretend to beKys Faggot
>>543344963>worshipping an ethnic jew who claimed to be god>claiming we're the deluded onesGrim
>>543345674You are really retarded kek
>>543345582>Kabbalahthey kept calling me a fool
>>543345559>very very luciferian/satanist kinda disclaimer, sneaking in this wack contract at the end of the OP!it was just for keks really> I serve the goddess of JUSTICE & TRUTH, MA'ATExtremely based and Egypt pilled>who accepts both abrahamicsHIGHLY cringe and Apep pilled, Ma'at is crying, the sun is at risk of being swallowed with every second you do not recant
>>543345688U R NIGTARDED DYSGENIC FAGGOT FREAK
>>543345574>Thread is still real btw and I believe it. Death to Rabbi Yeshua. Does that hurt you Chrigger vermin?Because you made Faggot Bait thread so (You) can Larp. Kys Kek
>>543345582An interesting image. Guess its origin.
ON THE HIDDEN MSG WITHIN THE VIDEO GAME BLOODBORN>An Esoteric Genealogy of the Archonic Sovereign: The Byrgenwerth Adage and the Nephilim Subgrid>To the uninitiated layman, the cinematic fragments of our cultural media are dismissed as mere entertainment. However, when we apply a rigorous, counter-historical anthropological lens to the text, we uncover a localized, exoteric transmission of the world's most jealously guarded secret: the perpetual hegemony of the Nephilim bloodlines.───────────────────────────────────────── THE ANTECEDENT HYBRIDIZATION "We are born of the blood..." [1] ──────────────────────────────────────── ▼ ───────────────────────────────────────── THE ANTHROPOLOGICAL ASCURACY "...made men by the blood..." [2] ──────────────────────────────────────── ▼ ───────────────────────────────────────── THE SYSTEMIC ENZYMATIC DECAY "...undone by the blood." [3] ─────────────────────────────────────────
>>543345625alakazam!
>>543345729>U R NIGTARDED DYSGENIC FAGGOT FREAKYou don't know shit about Theology, you just want to make fun of it because retards in (You)r discord could make an endless circlejerk and its popular for normies to shit on jews kek. Straight up KYS kek.
>>543326190Death to judaism and its offshoots
>>543345746>Because you made Faggot Bait thread so (You) can Larp. Kys Kek>Chrigger is hurt. Bad.>ave caesar te morituri salutant!ave caesar te morituri salutant!>ave caesar te morituri salutant!ave caesar te morituri salutant!>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)
>>543345797holy shit it's an actual wizard
>>543345722not so, Apep is revered largely by kabbalah inverters. upright-tree kabbalah reveres Ma'at which she likes. buncha esoteric christians kept her cult alive in the 1890s and she don't forget a favor like that.
>>543345797So (You) screenshoted some faggot. That's not an argument you dumb bitch. Paid actors in it self is a meme kek. You didn't prove anything kek
>>543345851You didn't even deny the Larp kek.
>The so-called "adage of Byrgenwerth"—erroneously categorized as video game lore—is, in reality, a precise, phenomenological breakdown of the ontological entrapment of the human species by a class of predatory, antediluvian sorcerer-kings.Let us deconstruct this modern Gnostic fragment through the syntax of its own occult anthropology:>1. "We are born of the blood..."This is not a biological platitude; it is a genealogical statement of origin. The phrase points directly to the primordial hybridization event recorded in the Genesis apocrypha. The warlocks of antiquity—the fallen Watchers—intervened in the terrestrial evolutionary matrix. The "blood" here is the ichor of the Nephilim. Humanity did not spontaneously evolve; its current physical vessel was explicitly engineered as a bio-receptive container for an extraterrestrial, sorcerous aristocracy. We are "born of" a bloodline that was fundamentally doctored from its inception.>2. "...made men by the blood..."Here, the anthropology becomes chillingly precise. "Manhood"—or rather, civilization, technocracy, and the divine right of kings—was gifted to the subterranean masses through the curation of these elite lineages. The kings of the ancient world were not merely political administrators; they were high-caliber sorcerers who achieved a horrific form of immortality.
>>543345880>not so, Apep is revered largely by kabbalah inverters. upright-tree kabbalah reveres Ma'at which she likes. buncha esoteric christians kept her cult alive in the 1890s and she don't forget a favor like that.That fact (You) know so much jewish shite is gay as fuck kek!
>>543345858not how you say a pedo 4chan mod who spam 4chan 14h a day
>>543345838Afraid so
>>543345930>You didn't even deny the Larp kek.Never needed to deny what never applied to me.The larp was yours all along Chrigger>> >>543331487>>543326532Stop dressing up as us. Give it back.
>By executing blood pacts with chthonic and demonic entities, these warlocks performed a metaphysical grand architecture: they fused their collective consciousness with the Archonic subgrid. This subgrid—a non-physical, electromagnetic matrix woven into the very fabric of our planetary reality—functions as a cosmic panopticon. Through it, these terrible beings ceased to be merely human; they became nodes in an immortal, parasitic network, establishing themselves as the secret rulers of the earth.>3. "...undone by the blood."The inevitable tragedy of the human condition is encoded in this clause. The very fluid that grants our societal masters their techno-magical dominance is the engine of our systematic, enzymatic decay. The Nephilim aristocracy maintains its continuity through a highly guarded, occult technology: trans-generational bloodline switching.
>>543345828>muh discord Really? That's all you have? IRC is loads better than that tranny trash. You're not White. The animal mind on display. You're a crude caricature of humanity. You have no soul.Ignored.
>>543345900proved I'm not a bundle of sticks and neither (I presume?) are you
>>543345880>kabbalah inverters>>543345966what?
Just join the Fourth Reich this is getting silly kek>https://youtu.be/TYV0dIknhTA?si=nFnbOhRYWMsN8DWp
>>543345989>Never needed to deny what never applied to meYou are Larping kek. Because Atheism and Paganism is not Reddit.
>>543346003>proved I'm not a bundle of sticks and neither (I presume?) are youYou are the Biggest Faggot here and thx for the screenshot mate kek.
>>543345880It says here on your record that you think Kabbalah isn't totally incoherent insane Jewish nonsense.Care to explain?Don't mind this lil guy salivating next to me btw.
>>543345963the hodos chameleonis requires the initiate know everything there is to know
>>543346124>the hodos chameleonis requires the initiate know everything there is to knowFags infiltrating Fags just pathetic.
>>543345718>In Norse mythology, the god Odin travels across the Nine Worlds of the cosmos along the branches and roots of the world tree Yggdrasil riding his legendary eight-legged horse, Sleipnir>In Buryat shamanism, the shamanic drum represents a magical, multi-legged spirit steed-envisioned as an extraordinary 8-legged horse—that carries the shaman across realms during trance.>The Tree of Life (often called the World Tree or Turuu) is the central axis of the Buryat cosmos, connecting the Upper, Middle, and Lower worlds.>Inside of you, the Tree of Life is your spine and nervous system. Your spine is the central axis (gol) of your body.As above, so below. Microcosm, macrocosm.
>>543346024>holy shit it's an actual wizardno he's a 4chan mod and he also very much like to spam /pol/ that brainless whore call it trolling or something
>>543346024true that, stamp down the false shells of inverted knowledge in the tomb of frater c∴r∴c∴
>>543346000>Really? That's all you have? IRC is loads better than that tranny trash. You're not White. The animal mind on display. You're a crude caricature of humanity. You have no soul. Ignored.You had me fix all (You)r embarrassing reddit spacimg faggot.
BTW I think believing in literal gods is ALMOST as inane as believing in one, singular, jewish god, but at least pagans worship their own ancestors and people and ways of natural life, for the most part.I prefer a more metaphorical aspect of stories to convey meaning, and not literally we wuz is be basedgans n shiet.
>>543346205Seems cool >>543346198I'm more of an originalist myself
>>543346285>i'll worm my way in (((this time!)))We already covered this here>>>>>543342021>>543342189No need to make yourself Mr. special boy all over again. Billions believe in the divine without the help of Abrahamism, (((materialist sperg.)))
>>543346343>Fedoras attempting to enter the thread again and again before taking their hat off the rack.
>>543346343Special? Jungian archetypes were created before I was even born. Archetypes are variables, forms, frameworks; think of it as a skeleton upon which the flesh is built. The framework is there but may be expressed infinitely throughout higher and lower beings. Warrior, sage, healer, etc. etc.
>>543326190>anti-Christians kvetch in despairLol, lmao even.
>>543346285They are not ancestors, or gods in the way people tend to think of themThey are primal predatory extra dimensional beings. Anyone remember that guy who called into Art Bell on an area 51 show long ago ? He was having a panic attack because he someone figured out or came into contact with what these things actually are They are allot less like those nice Greek and Roman statues and allot more like Pennywise the clown from Stephen Kings IT (or what the entity behind IT is)
>>543326190The two sides in this world.
>>543346111complexity doesn't mean incoherency. just because it can drive you insane doesn't mean it is itself insane. yes there are competing systems of interpretation but that is largely due to the extra, post-jewish hermetic interpretations received by thelemic prophets and so forth. it's like being an electrician and having to master both AC and DC currents. this might help:>https://nofaithinthehumanrace.com/777/index.phpthe drop-down box under "arrangement" in the lower left lets you pick between five different attribution patterns.yes we all patted your buddy on the head in 0=0, they call him omoo-sathan in the g∴d∴ neophyte lodge
>>543346509In reality:
>>543346457>Jungian archetypesOh boy. I'm getting flashbacks to the 'witch' that was telling me about chaos sigils.>babby atheist's first kantian spiritualism! I'm not New Age, I promise!>Evola critiques him in Vol 3. of his magical essays as a biological reductionist, using quotes from Jung himself where he asserts the psyche and archetypes are rooted as biological epiphenomenon.>Jung has written: “Modern man must therefore consider himself fortunate not to have come up against Eastern ideas until his own spiritual impoverishment was so far gone that he did not even notice what he was coming up against. He can now deal with the East on the quite adequate and therefore innocuous level of the intellect, or else leave the whole matter to Sanskrit specialists.”34 This is exactly what we would say about Jung himself, but in a wider sense: it is fortunate that this psychiatrist understood nothing, and could only see extensions of pathological experiences and psychotherapies whenever he came upon the vestiges of Wisdom and the Art.>Baron Julius EvolaAt least he won't spam 10 posts of derangement syndrome calling me atheist, confuse everyone with his definition of pistis and then point to a rhetorical definition, then deny all folly and run.
>>543346205first day on /pol/ after I quit /x/ & already a mod! Ma'at be praised
>>543346561You listen to Ben Shapiro? What other rabbis do you worship?
>>543346624>cannot even follow a conversation beyond a single replyIt's over.
A heathens take on abrahamic circumscion https://youtu.be/8rmtZju9OVI
We're already attracting /x/ spergs, bros. Better get out of the way before the summon an Enochian demon itt that massacres everyone with a +2 flaming sword of spite.
>>543346525assuming everybody you can't see is one kind of guy is not going to get you very far. even among non-human biologics there's four totally different types congressmen are comfortable you knowing about, and none of them look like clowns. whether you denounce the bible or not, jesus' quip "you may know them by their fruits" is a good one. the beings behind the greek and roman statues brought you the olympic games, the renaissance, epic poetry and theatre. clowns only brought you clownworld and balloons.
>>543346619faggot
>>543345851What does worshiping roman kings accomplish?Specially when you're probably not living in a community with other people doing the same, running festivals and enforcing that culture on each other?A religion without a shared community is just a hobby.(Same goes to modern Christians who don't live in heavily Christian areas with outspoken Christians btw.)
>>543346599Psssst do it. I haven't read or studied Jung in depth it's the only reference to archetypes that I'm aware of, and that may simply be splitting hairs on gods to an extent. I'm not a fan of dogma. Sure there are base principles of interaction but I don't choose one specific person to clone my beliefs off of.I prefer reading about meta aspects and their relationships to each other.::shrug::Stay cool my dude I guess?
>>543346719Depends on if they know what they're talking about or not, symbology is very potent. Bastards took my tree for example
>>543346719>noo that's magic! nothing's real! it's just symbolic folkismAlready discussed Iamblichan Theurgy and Proclus, who wrote the text On Theurgy that fuelled a magical revival in Europe after Thomas Taylor's translation, with the spastic who called a proper definition of pistis by a scholar AI and then linked me to wikipedia and ran. Do you know which thread you're in?
>>543346666>tranny beast has mental breakdownexpected.
>>543346847I'm down for a wizard's duel, just don't get blood on my phrygian cap
>>543339778100 replies after no rebuttalthise whole thread is scripted by mossad dumb pieces of shitgonna just report it for AI spam bbWhat freakin idiot falls for this lol
>>543346933Where does the halo come from?
>>543346805>this is the guy the chriggers make anti-pagan memes about with these exact opinions last night>>543346792>nothing is real you see!The Greek rulers daimon and the Roman emperors genius were worshipped in household cults, street shrines/crossroads, and official temples, as far as Britannia and the rest of Europe. The imperial cult itself is modelled off the hearthfire of the houselord: >>543327795The entire empire was considered the genius loci of the emperor.
>>543346754you are wrong anon. IT was the clowns who brought us bread and circuses (the games).
>>543346933The Jews replaced your connection to the divine with a false intermediary via their holy scriptures to insert themselves into your host society. Like cordyceps fungus re-wiring you to defend its presence and to attack the immune system that is attempting to expel the fungus.
>>543346951Lens flare obvs
>>543346908>*gasp* a jacobin of the galli!baiting me are you? Well it won't work, you've already lost your '''marbles'''.
>>543346996and the crucifix
>>543346561any wealthy anons itt should consider building a pagan temple in their local. hire some priests to memorize the rites, donate some offerings occasionally, watch number go up (the gods will bless your financials). then ben shapiro can diversify his slop:>go to hof!>go to fanum!>go to templum!>go to hörgr!>go to vé!>go to temenos!>go to alsos!>go to ziggurat!
>>543346805Jung is pseudointelectual bollox. The gods are not ''archetypes''. They are literally immortal body hopping sorcerers who can leave their bodies at will, control animals, hypnotize normies, invade your dreams and so on
>>543346977Why act like a nigger when I'm simply explaining where I'm at with what I know and experienced? I'm not claiming to do XYZ or anything, big guy.Strict dogmatic frameworks rape the soul, apparently.
>>543346979the circus was a late development when the gods were civic symbols like the thanksgiving turkey and abrahamics were already enough of a nuisance that after a little psyopping people were ready to watch human rights violations and cheer. the games were older than anything you know, and originated not as entertainment, but as funerary rites.
>>543346977Just because something was done in ancient times doesn't mean the people doing it weren't fags. You're doing the same thing as miggers worshipping trump, it's gay as fuck
you will participate in blót and you will like it
>>543347071Have you ever heard about that mental African American cult leader who declared himself the leader of the "Nuwaubian Nation" and placed himself as its king, and then constructed a giant pyramid temple compound for his followers? He immediately made all his followers give their wives to him, and then eventually got raided by feds.It's some very funny and bizarre shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwaubian_Nation
>>543346977>household cults, street shrines/crossroads, and official templesBy only one or two people or communities living together?>genius lociUhhh sure, but I don't get why you'd want to worship some guys who happened to rule the place before being killed and replaced by someone else.I also believe there is a difference between studying a faith and living it through your culture and interactions with your community.
>>543347176>>543347142Oh look it's two Protestant Americans again here to dumb everyone down to the level of the commune>>> whatever you do, don't have standards!
>>543346933bruv we're all hanging out here at the bottom of the chat, there's 250+ replies. gimme a sec & I'll rebut as you like
>>543347267No you are just a fag who worships men and drinks semen
>>543347167THE GODS ARE NOT FUCKING ''SYMBOLS'', enough for the anthopol pseudointelectual horseshit they are LITERALLY BODY HOPPING IMMORTAL VAMPIRE/ELF SORCERERS the problem with being overeducated is that your the last to see the forest through the trees dumbass horror movie buffs have figured this out in greater numbers than anthropology majors they even tell you in the media...vampires, immortal sorcerers, elves, fairies (trad of the later = evil non human creatures pre recent disney makeover)...these beings are 100% real, they walk around, you have probably met them
>>543347323>migger>2nd post homoeroticism into the bog you go
>>543347208HOTsecond new cult I discovered on here today, we're diversifying the noosphere
>>543347267I was baptized as a catholic (lied at first communion heheheh) and still got my dick chopped you dumb faggot. I'm simply a god who you have 0 favor with ;) Suck deez nutz homo.
>>543347344Fairies and chupacabras are not gods fag
>>543347130>In the 13th century, the Icelandic scholar Snorri Sturluson wrote the Prose Edda and Heimskringla. He claimed that the Norse gods highly powerful warriors and human kings who migrated from Turkland (Turkey/Troy).>Because they were so advanced in their governance, magic, and technology, the native people of the north began to worship them as gods.>The Tuatha Dé Danann, a fair-skinned, blonde, and red-haired race of gods highly skilled in magic, famously defeated the giant Fomorians. Norse and Celtic myths frequently intertwine, and some legends tie them to the Danaans of Greece. >The Tuatha Dé Danann moved underground into the sídhe (fairy mounds) after losing control of Ireland to human invaders known as the Milesians.>The Danunian Kingdom mentioned in ancient contexts is historically identified with the Iron Age Luwian kingdom of Adanawa (also known as Ḫiyawa or Quwê), located in Plain Cilicia (modern-day Adana, Turkey).>Patupaiarehe are supernatural, fairy-like beings in Māori mythology described as having pale or white skin, reddish or light-colored hair, and an intense fear of direct sunlight.>The Hyperboreans were believed to be a blessed, pious race who lived for up to a thousand years in a state of complete happiness, untouched by war, hard labor, old age, or disease who lived in a land far to the north bathed by constant sunlight. The Gods themselves are all aspects of the one but druids, shamans, the Dananns, etc. act/acted as intermediaries in a practice called Seidr. The descendants of the Dananns are called fairies now, but not the pixie-kind. We've got "fairy mounds" in the US too, Moundville, Alabama has a lot of them to give you an example.
>>543347354Yes it's all just me not the guy who literally worships men, who you are defending for some reason
>>543347430Some say the sun is female but I have my doubts
>>543347383I assume that practice was never the case in America until the early 20th century
>>543347388Fairies, Witches, Vampires, Elves They are all the EXACT same group All the nice heroic stories about them, thats a bs pr campaign, they are pure evil They are the managerial class of the archonic sacrificial grid Sports, everything else, energetic expenditure
>>543347265Read Virgil and Ovid, you are extremely ignorant about the importance. The commoners insisted on building temples to Augustus even when he denied it and he was essentially forced into giving permission. Tiberius famously rejected divine honours of any kind, and they hated him for it and refused to deify him after he died, rioting in the streets and chanting to throw him into the river. Augustus melted down approximately 80 silver statues of himself in 28 BCE, because silver was a metal associated with gods. Centuries before Augustus, they use that term for Senators: maiestate humano Augustiorem, simillimus dis—majesty more August than human, most like the gods (Livy, Ab Urbe Condita 5.41.8). It is nothing new.The Ara numinis Augusti was dedicate to Augustus' numen, and he was referred to as 'theios aner' or 'god man', like Hercules. Traditionally numen is something that only the gods have. Upon each coronation or entrance into a City, they held the Adventus Augusti ceremony where he confers his numen praesens (numinous presence) upon the inhabitants.Did you think these were materialist atheists? Lol.>>>> >>543342227Cassius Dio attests that 'Augustus' is an old term meaning 'more than human' or 'the best'.The Britons venerated the sails and oar of the emperor when he arrived in Britain to restore it 'to true light of empire'. He was REDDITOR LVCIS AETERNAE.the Britons upon the Roman imperial retaking of Britannia, a centre of Roman jurisprudence for 4+ centuries, and Romanised before the legions ever arrived via trade alone, and maintaining Roman order even after the legions left, upon seeing the emperor Constantius:>quem, ut caelo delapsum, intuebantur>‘whom they beheld as though descended from heaven’; even the sails and oars of the ship which had carried his numen were venerated.>Panegyrici Latini VIII(5).19.1–2>vera imperii luce recreati>‘restored by the true light of Empire’.>Panegyrici Latini VIII(5).19.
>>543347344didn't say they were symbols, but their use as image can be divested from their actual personam. jesus for example is a communist rabbi initiated into the vama marg yet his symbol & aesthetic is being used to implement fascism in the u.s.a.the greek and roman gods are pro-enlightenment values, pro-high aesthetics, pro-advanced geometry. they're not some bloodthirsty jumpscare characters, though, uh, if you do sacrifice a bull to zeus make the animal look upward as you kill it, make it look downward if it's to the tritopatores or other cthonic ancestral forces
>>543345851Since youre from the UK, why are you worshipping the romans? Or do you have Italian heritage but just live in the UK? Or are you worshipping them because they took over a chunk of the UK at one point and brought their gods there?
>>543347515Fairies are their own thing, by your flag you should know that
>>543347265>Read Virgil and Ovid,>>543347560
>>543347453Sol is definitely a man rape rating mother earth for half the day. >>543347476jewsus was mutilated and raped as were the kikes of the day. It was never explicitly banned. Inb4 cope jew scriptures. However, I did convince a catholic family member to spare her boy because of some council banned it IIRC. "The specific catalyst means less than the willingness to use it."Faggots are all the same reading a user manual and applying it to an ever shifting landscape and anything that might run contrary to their programmatic golem mind is heresy. Just fucking stop you retarded niggers.
>>543326190Genuinely, anyone who's serious about this stuff doesn't replace U's with V's.Maybe try again once you've grown up a bit or don't sully our waters with your subversive filth.
>>543347633>>>543347265>>Read Virgil and Ovid,>>>543347560 (You)>>543347599I already discussed it with an insane Chrigger in the thread before last, and I'm not sure you're not one. It's covered in the OP so I don't have to repeat it here: >>543326190>European KVLT was around for 5000 years before the Christian infection. Rome syncretised heavily, if you are European, you are a Roman.The statue in the OP is a Roman goddess erected in England in the 20th century. I'm not rehashing the insane depth of Roman art and culture in British culture. Roman names are very popular British names. Roman does not mean 'italian', that is the modern nationalist lens, and not an imperial lens.
>>543347641Rape raying*
>>543347560I find it weird you specifically chose some emperor cult instead of the actual gods of the time.>you are extremely ignorantAnd you're looking at faith as a scholar. Your knowledge comes from studying history and not from living with people that believe those things as a community, passing down stories and traditions, making festivals, etc.
>>543339778>be me>read anon's "if you worship ancestors why stop at monkeys" argument>bro literally cannot tell the difference between "honor your lineage" and "worship every single organism in your phylogenetic tree">ancestor veneration is selective by definition>you honor the dead you have a relationship with, names, stories, a connection>you don't "worship" a random neanderthal you have 0.1% shared DNA with>anon strawmans the position into a cartoon then shoots the cartoon>the actual argument is "my recent ancestors were christian and i don't want to honor that part of my heritage">which is a perfectly coherent and common position>you pick which ancestors mean something to you>that's not a contradiction, that's just... having preferences>the "mossad psy-op" part is where anon's brain leaves the chat>no evidence, no pattern, no nothing>just "i don't like this so it must be a covert israeli operation">conspiracy thinking so extreme it loops back around to being a personality trait at this point>the monkey thing is not a refutation, it's a joke>if you take "honor your ancestors" literally to its absolute logical extreme sure you get "worship your mitochondria">but nobody is making that argument>anon is fighting a mannequintl;dr the argument is incoherent, the evidence is nonexistent, the if-not-christian-must-be-jew binary is tired af
>>543347599Here is a Celtic-Roman god already posted btw: >>543327696 King Arthur and Merlin are Romans 'ultimatum Romanorum'. They upheld Roman law in Sub-Roman Britannia (a Roman goddess), civitatis vs tyrannis.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnbbiSiEncJulius Caesar's sword becomes Arthur's sword.
>>543347697So should all europeans convert to Religio Romana (I just looked it up idk if thats the official name)? What about the slavic pagans and the norse/germanic pagans? Like in an ideal world should we be united under one? Or keep the 3? I think the 3 would be good but wondering what you think
>>543341377>desert dweelers>radiant pale skinbiologi does not work like thatwhites under the sun turn bright pink in the short term, and toasty copper in the long term
NEATO SPUDEETO
>>543347758>you are ignorant about the importanceIt is a statement saying you have not read it, not calling you ignorant. I am just quoting extremely famous poems to you, not scholars.You don't know anything about me or my family. These rites are traditionally passed down family lines since they have to do with ancestor worship. My family has sacrificed animals to my genius since I was very young, and neighbours would come and dedicate prayers to us, because it was the old custom. That is ancestor/genius worship very similar to the Roman emperors. This was not exclusive to the emperors, every patrician had a genius cult and descent from a god. They were not evolutionists. They had a slur for those people called 'terrae filius' (fatherless, no ancestry, son of the earth or maternal line) That is how I got interested in it.The imperial cult is just the household cult on an imperial stage, they are the same rites across numerous types of paganism. it stands above and beyond the 'community'. The communal is the world of the egalitarian, chthonic, and feminine, the houselord's cult and imperial cult are those of solar transcendence and the celestial.My scholarly interest doesn't imply that it comes from that, it is actually the other way around, I got interested in it because it was in my family. And it is actually not that scholarly. schoolchildren in Britain were taught 12-13 Latin and Greek classics by secondary school. I am fluent in Latin Not that long ago you were not considered educated if you did not read Latin. Until about the 50s. We have had entire cultural art periods in Britain where this literature was promoted. It is very popular in schools here, I randomly met girls in Latin classes who know everything i am talking about. I randomly met a girl who inherited these rites from her family too. She worshipped a Slavic fire god named Yarilo. They were nobles under the Russian Tsar and secret pagans for 300 years.
>>543347562The only thing they do is run advanced NLP scripts on normies, to the effect of telling them to reproduce, buy things, work hard and support sports - then if one steps out of line, thel run a suicide script on themThey are energy farmers, nothing more. Dispense with the mystique, and attributing to them such beauty. To you ears music is beautiful, to them its just a code to make you want to fuck, buy stuff ect. They have no aesthetic as you do, no true emotion. They are just hyper intelligent insects. They inhabit the realm of death, and require human life force emission to sustain themselvesThey are not as the later religions depict them humane, or beautiful. These images where created by humans to hide the terrifying reality which was known in the more ancient primal times They knew then these beings where entirely anti human. Your view of these beings is like how Disney depicts fairies, or LOTR/Peter Jackson depicts Elves...Your basis in Antiquity is that level of revisionism, you need to go back further in some cases to understand what these things are Again think IT, todash space. These are the main ones, the ones on earth run the grid for them
>>543348041osiris was a black godgreta thunberg has asperger's, o.c.d. & selective mutism yet the founder of a mass-surveillance genocide platform fears she may become the antichristaristotle would not approve of your use of dehumanizing language sir, very iron-age coded terminology
>>543348066I don't know anything about you IRL, that's true, I only know you from what you've been posting ITT.You've made long posts about your knowledge of history but not much about why would anyone care to change their beliefs and how that would benefit them. That's why I feel you're someone with an intellectual curiosity on the subject.Do you even have a community of people around you that share your beliefs and live that kind of faith? And by that I don't mean just one or two families.
>>543347993If you want to organise them politically in imperium, definitely yes, but otherwise, no I am not advocating exclusivism. The Indo-European gods are already profoundly interrelated. I am simply saying that this is an intact tradition, more complete than many of the others, which elevated and organised Europe to an extraordinarily high spiritual level that has not been matched in the modern age. It is also a powerful political symbol which has continually reasserted itself against the Church for centuries; even Hitler's Reich (empire) uses Jupiter's eagle. In principle, it could be reinstated tomorrow, with its laws, books, rites, institutions, and sacred traditions restored. It is highly accommodating toward native religions, rather than requiring their eradication, although it does expect hierarchy and certain good standards that are beneficial to prosperity.And, precisely because Christianity inverted and appropriated so much from the older religious order, skinsuiting it, its restoration is the killshot. It strikes directly at Christianity's claim to historical and spiritual primacy.A lot of these other religions survive only in obscured, fragmentary form, with substantial portions of their mythology and theology reconstructed through later sources. It is a powerful touchstone to a deeper Aryan spirituality. Its gods and divine ancestry are claimed by many houses across Europe including Germanics (HRE kept its myth alive). The Romans and Greeks preserved, systematised, and transmitted much of that Indo-European inheritance for us anyway. Nationalism, meanwhile, attempts to sever you from that wider Roman inheritance and divide Europe into artificially isolated national fragments, when the deeper inheritance is civilisational and Indo-European.
>>543347993Roman Catholicism is "Religio Romana", it's a Greco-Roman mystery school. Iove (with an i) was a name for Zeus and it was pronounced YAW-weh. Zeus is the father, Hera is the Holy Spirit, Dionysus is the Son, Mary is Semele (the mortal princess impregnated with Dionysus by Zeus then taken to Mount Olympus where she became Thyone, the goddess of the Dionysian/Bacchic frenzy, that's why she's venerated so much in Catholicism), Prometheus is Lucifer, Typhon is Satan (Nachash), the Nephilim are the Titans, etc. See >>543345044And also >>543347425And remember that Aegean-style pottery was found at the site of Tel Dan.
>>543348072all gods? or which gods specifically do you suspect of such tactics today? insectoids can put on long robes but that doesn't mean every robed figure is an insectoid
>>543348303Yes there are plenty of pagan circles around Britain and it's quite popular, but quality is the problem. There are a lot of casuals and New Agers who don't take it that seriously. This is the modern world, so it's not at a true community level anymore outside of small niches. I am really the first person in my family line to experience much less of it because of that, I didn't know a lot about it until I was a bit older (in my 20s) compared to other family members, but I will definitely strengthen it and pass it on to my children in full form as the original OP suggested. My family has Roman Latin names and I will pass them on. My entire extended family believes in it, and I have made friends. The old gods become popular here in Britain every century or so. Thomas Taylor started a massive movement in the anglosphere with his translations of Neoplatonism and so on. So it's not that hard to find people. I suppose 'Latin class' is my 'community', even though many of them can be libshits and using socialist French Revolution readings, you are more likely to find someone who actually admires the ancient way. So many royal customs and laws in Europe are derived from Roman patrician religious customs. I was at the Queen's funeral, and it was evident in the processions and iconography. The textual corpus is very powerful, and something other pagan religions lack in such depth. You have a few poems, but not nearly the level of art and literature that still is taught in universities and philosophy courses today. Yes hang around academia and you can find some Greek/Romanfags. Moreso now that the internet is here and paganism is experiencing revival. I get a lot of curious people IRL because i am open about it.
>>543348281Not my problem. Wood.Again, not my problem.
>>543347697Your fully aware all religion over all history at the base level, is made up of gods that demand blood sacrifice. Christianity is a blood ritual to propitiate the underworld. If your not in that covenant your in the position of the ancients who needed to make perpetual offerings.And remember, they give nothing for free, and demand interest on everything they give. They are cosmic loan-sharks and you are foolish to render adoration to them, as they care nothing for you
>>543348675You worship a dumbed-down version of Platonism and the emperor for retards btw>>>>>543331487Anyway this general seemed to be struggling with the Chriggers, so I hope I gave it a kick and moral courage and you can discuss more things from now on with confidence imparted from the Romans.
>>543348307
>>543348536Yeah, I guess it's not reasonable to give up instead of looking for like-minded people. I hope you can create a bigger community of people that actively engage in your faith.I don't know if just learning about it would change anything for me, though. Besides the Jewish origins of Christianity, what is it that the old faiths had that the new one does not? And vice-versa? Why not believe in anything at all?
>>543348889I will also tell you, the most advanced deep hypnosis done on cases of people with MPD and demoniacal type disorders - to identify the nature of the entities inhabiting themThey found that the ones claiming to the front personality that they where ancestors, when questioned, admitted they where not ancestors When asked why they claimed to be, they stated that it was to gain the consent of the host to enter the body (so they simulated the image of themselves as a dead relative or ancestor in dreams to trick the person)they also said their aim was to destroy the host and siphon energy from the bloodline most advanced metadata on all deepest world religious practice concerned with sacrifice to entities shows these beings are primarily negative people who became shamans/mediums have attested to this, just as taoist folk priests who complained about being dragged into lower realms and loosing more and more control of their bodies to these beings over time
>>543348889>You worship a dumbed-down version of PlatonismKike lying like it breathes as always
>>543349118We believe in a higher spiritual world and in the cyclical nature of history: that it begins in a Golden Age, descends through Silver, Bronze, and Iron, and that Gold will ultimately return. This conception recurs across Egyptian, Graeco-Roman (Virgil, Hesiod, Ovid), Iranian, Indian, Asian, and Nordic traditions; alongside it stands the doctrine of the four ages and the four corresponding orders of being. This is the principle of involution rather than evolution: that man began from a higher state and descended from the gods, rather than emerging from some primitive animal condition and laboriously evolving upward. The latter conception would have been regarded by the ancients as a degradation of man's origin, rather than an exaltation of it.I have never been an irreligious materialist of any kind, I have never been a modernist believing in empiricism and democracy and progress, those are the faults of our age in this view. I simply hold that whatever truths or solutions one may find in Christianity are ultimately only shadows cast by a far greater reality: a much older inheritance, a more comprehensive spiritual order, and a far more exalted conception of man's place within the structure of existence. What Christianity preserves is, in our view, only a fragment of something immeasurably older and greater.
>>543348889You act like a pompous faggot. Start with that.
>>543349217>>543349187>worships jewSemites lack the higher-order reasoning to understand the One and just invented submissive proskynesis which any patrician would find offensive. That's why Christspergs fit blacks so well. Finding an honourable and spiritually advanced Jew is like finding a black scientist. I've said it before: Jews are like hobos, any grand idea they copy out of their inferiority complex is inevitably dumbed down and degraded into the gutter and commune.Even at the heights of Christian mystical theology, which ostensibly follows this path, we nonetheless encounter a persistent dualism, one that seldom achieves the authentic, substantial transformation into the 'other'. In such a dualistic framework, the separation remains, and corresponding divine personae serve as mere expressions of a particular phase within the process, rather than the dissolution of the duality itself.This is because Christianity perceives god as external. The hallucination of another world and the pursuit of a messianic salvation beyond the present are the refuge of the failed, the outcast, the accursed; those incapable of embracing and willing their own reality. A symptom of souls marked by insufficiency, tormented by suffering, whose very essence is bound to unfulfilled desire.Genuine knowledge arises only when one is capable of transforming one's consciousness into the very object of understanding. This is the theios aner. Thus, only that which emerges from direct, personal experience is rightfully considered 'knowledge.'
>>543349368Which Jungian archetype is that?
>>543349376>Semites lack the higher-order reasoning to understand the One and just invented submissive proskynesis which any patrician would find offensive. That's why Christspergs fit blacks so well. Finding an honourable and spiritually advanced Jew is like finding a black scientist. I've said it before: Jews are like hobos, any grand idea they copy out of their inferiority complex is inevitably dumbed down and degraded into the gutter and commune.>Even at the heights of Christian mystical theology, which ostensibly follows this path, we nonetheless encounter a persistent dualism, one that seldom achieves the authentic, substantial transformation into the 'other'. In such a dualistic framework, the separation remains, and corresponding divine personae serve as mere expressions of a particular phase within the process, rather than the dissolution of the duality itself.>This is because Christianity perceives god as external. The hallucination of another world and the pursuit of a messianic salvation beyond the present are the refuge of the failed, the outcast, the accursed; those incapable of embracing and willing their own reality. A symptom of souls marked by insufficiency, tormented by suffering, whose very essence is bound to unfulfilled desire.>Genuine knowledge arises only when one is capable of transforming one's consciousness into the very object of understanding. This is the theios aner. Thus, only that which emerges from direct, personal experience is rightfully considered 'knowledge.'
>>543349418I'd say something akin to a warrior/sage. IIRC he believed the lie, fought, learned, then taught. Could also be wounded healer.
>>543349490Here. Have an Aryan Chad manual. You missed it last time.
>>543349526>kike is mocking AryansYou are lower than puss
you prob think its being superstitious and crude, and x tier low iq, but what i say is true. if you made pacts/covenants with these gods through sacrificial exchanges, your gonna have a bad time you know all those people claiming to be gangstalked ? ever wonder whats going on there ? they have demonic warrants out on them, because they entered into contacts most of them didnt even understand. then the people with shadow eyes start following them, those are what the chinese called the Diyu (地狱), watchers for the underworld beochracy whos ledger your ongetting involved with the actual non larping occult, (which is right up the alley of people who think they are smart because they have an anthro major) always ends badly. its like going to mafia looking for money except a thousand times worse
>>543349572Dropped yours Chrigger.
>>543349654> if you made pacts/covenants with these gods through sacrificial exchangeseverything has its priceentities requiring bodily fluids are generally weak anywayalternatively, you have nothing more to offerso yeah, DON'T
>>543349418I read this in his voice btw. He has great quotes, my favorite being:"LOVE, the natural, healthy kind, is indeed what makes the world go round, and is the most beautiful, holy miracle we ever see here on this earth. BUT WITHOUT A DEADLY HATE OF THAT WHICH THREATENS WHAT WE LOVE, LOVE IS AN EMPTY WORD, A CATCHWORD FOR HIPPIES, QUEERS, AND COWARDS."George Lincoln Rockwell, White Power
>>543349654>you prob think its being superstitious and crude, and x tier low iq, but what i say is true. if you made pacts/covenants with these gods through sacrificial exchanges, your gonna have a bad timeWorks on my machine.
>>543349681Christ is king.
>>543349821>Christ is king.You must need another then, for your reverent worship.>>543345851>>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>>543345851>>543345851
>>543326190you just know
>>543349799Checked. He looks like a cool guy, might read some of him tonight. Any recommendations?
>>543349799>>543349889Gives me Francis Yockey feels.
>>543349681>kike mocked Aryans with AI slopYou are lower than puss
>>543349954>>kike mocked Aryans with AI slop>You are lower than pussDropped yours.
>>543349889Nothing in particular, like I've posted earlier, I'm not dogmatic and utilize the tools that I've chanced upon. If you have children, or a simple person you come across, The Fable of the Ducks and Hens, which is a story and illustrated, is magnificent in it's simplicity. https://www.scribd.com/document/623822500/Fable-of-the-Ducks-Gergeoge-L-Rockwell-1918-1967-PDFhttps://youtu.be/DCUuasvdmsYEnjoy.
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>>543350031>kike mocked Aryans with AI slopYou are lower than puss
how many times do you need to be told ? interact with these beings to your determinant....how many horror movies have explained this ? all media has explained it innumerable times yes there is a demonic sub-strait of reality. DO NOT INTERACT WITH IT. IT ALWAYS GOES WRONGagain. would you go to the mafia or mexican cartel looking for money ?
>>543350033Kek. I forgot about that. Gods speed to you, Jungian. May the archetypes bring you Fortune.
>>543350055>>kike mocked Aryans with AI slop>You are lower than pussDropped yours Chrigger.
>>543350164>kike mocked Aryans with AI slopYou are lower than puss
>>543350209>>kike mocked Aryans with AI slop>You are lower than puss
>>543350267>kike mocked Aryans with AI slopYou are lower than puss
remember, the way the djinn, elves, fairies, gods *and they exist in HUMAN BODIES* come at you, is they offer you stuff, not always supernatural but it can be supernaturalbut whatever they give you IS ALWAYS CURSED, its ALWAYS DESIGNED TO BACKFIRE
>>543350145D< whanck whanck <3
>>543350321>>kike mocked Aryans with AI slop>You are lower than puss
>>543349850Just know it makes you assmad. Could careless what else you have to say pagan donkey witch.
>>543350394>kike mocked Aryans with AI slopYou are lower than puss
>>543350415>>>543349850 (You)>Just know it makes you assmad. Could careless what else you have to say pagan donkey witch.>>543350442>>>543350394 (You)>>kike mocked Aryans with AI slop>You are lower than puss
>>543350458>kike mocked Aryans with AI slopYou are lower than puss
>>543350458
>>543350522>>543350498>AYO
>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)>NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)AAAAAAAAHAHAAH
>>543350561See you in the next thread anon. God bless.
>>543350596>God bless.
>>543350561>kike mocked Aryans with AI slopYou are lower than puss
>>543350620<3
