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How come Americans can't make these anymore?
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>>543345499
Too much elite human capital
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>>543345499
every american was sold out by these corpofaggots
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>>543345499
nons invaded
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I have an EUV photolithography machine in my apartment.
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>>543345538
It is worth noting that the big tech companies that seem to be innovating most are the ones NOT ran by Jeets.
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>>543345499
We have 3 new ones under construction.
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>>543345499
It cracks me up these fab videos always start with Daifuku (Overhead conveyors) and Tokyo Electron (Photoresist dropper). They really like Japanese mechatronics. kek
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Because it was cheaper to outsource and America's religion is making rich people richer. America directly created the modern nation of China.
Our corporate overlords will never NOT outsource if it can be done. If it can't be done, they will import foreigners instead.
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>>543345499
suicide stage capitalism
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>>543345499
Labor unions.
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>>543345499
Corporations demand longer working hours, lower pay, and refuse to train people unless they are indians who are too stupid to do that.

Basically if you didn't haven internship in uni you don't get into this field
If you want 8 hour work days you don't get into this field

The history of the US is just fucking over domestic labor so shareholders can receive the money instead
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>>543345499
We outsourced the machine building to Europe so they wouldn't totally fucking collapse. Mandated kill switches we control. Sent the machines built in Europe to Taiwan so that they'd have a hand in the process and military backing. And sabotage anybody who tries to replicate the process or technology (the cia burned down the indians endeavor into trying to set up their own process in the 90s, whole building destroyed). We don't make tech because it was a military initiative to force allies to get used to working together.
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>>543348885
True
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LBJ and pretty much every government since then had worked to destroy the best we have.
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>>543348885
Samsung and others have famously tried opening plants in the South where there aren't any and they can't make it work. The median rural white is about as useful as an illiterate Mexican or Chinese slave laborer with triple the HC costs from obesity while expecting higher wages. It doesn't make any financial sense and the proof is in the pudding.
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>>543349399
How was Samsung able to restrict their hiring in the south to just whites? Sounds extremely illegal.
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>>543348764
>the current system we live under is capitalism
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It's my fault!

I am the one to blame.
Yep.
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>>543349457
Trump kicked so many immigrants out of these plants that he even hit the South Koreans engineers that they flew over and pissed the companies off. Seems pretty safe to say that they're using useless inbred hillbillies to me!
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>>543349399
Poor shitholes in europe, like poland and lithuania, have no issues producing chips and semiconductors. And the pay salaries way above the average. Check out the salaries of intel in poland or teltonika. It's definitely not white people issues.
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>>543347014
and they will fail just like all the previous ones
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>>543350939
American "whites" are not actually proper whites. They're the offspring of all the retards that couldn't make it in Europe and immigrated to the Americas. The same way that the immigrants that come from Middle East and Africa to Europe now are the retards of those places, and how niggers are the offspring of the blacks that were too stupid to get caught in the slave trade.
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>>543345499
Look up Intel's "stack ranking" management disaster. Turns out constantly firing the worst performers by metrics lead to mistrust, backstabbing, and all of your quality engineers leaving because they don't have to put up with that shit.
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Truth, see pic related
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>>543345499
we don't have the brains. Elon was right when he said there was a talent pool shortage. we legit don't have people with above 80 IQ. everyone is borderline mentally retarded in one way or another.
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USA corporations are beholden to the stock market and outsourced everything for profit on a quarter-to-quarter basis
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>>543345499
oh look moar chink shit
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>>543345499
you know how to bomb schools, and that's enough.
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>>543345499
Natural selection.
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We don't have enough Baharat talent.
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>>543348503
no wonder intel is shit
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>>543351818
TSMC N2 is like 70+% Japanese suppliers btw
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AMAT is 50% Japanese suppliers
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>>543352005
TSMC, Samsung, SK Hynix use mostly domestic sources and uses Japanese sources to make up any gaps. Micron and Intel mainly use Japanese suppliers as primary.

I work for Intel in Oregon.
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>>543352118
Too bad all your spouting is bullshit just like Samsung's garbage yield, which can't produce a single photoresist that works
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>>543346823
Based, DUV poorfags absolutely seething
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>>543345499
mutts don't have a zeiss, that's why.
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>>543352197
Its not bullshit.

Our industry publishes stats all of the time. Only the US and Europe have reduced billings because we don't buy domestic, we mainly get it from Japan first.

Taiwan and Korea buy from their domestic companies first then buy from Japan second after they run out of supplies.

Its not a secret. We share this data globally.
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>>543351023
I haven't seen a failed fab in the US. Even Global Foundries is doing well with their endeavors. Granted fabs will reach an age where you either upgrade or mothball them but thats the business cycle.
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>>543352197
>Samsung's garbage yield, which can't produce a single photoresist that works
Samsung doesn't make photoresists.
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>>543352668
>korean and taiwan domestic equipment
Lol 404, but I appreciate your efforts in cutting in a field where you clearly know nothing about.
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>>543352915
Yeah they tried and gave up, now heavily rely on Tokyo Ohka Korea or whatever.
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>>543352963
I'm confused as to why you're accusing me of not knowing what even the data clearly shows. Both Taiwan and Korea have larger semiconductor tools sales than Japan. That is uncontested.

Due to national security concerns many of the leading fabs are turning to homegrown tools and materials. The only problem is that the US has too many barriers and very high capital requirements to fully go domestic. Its funny because we were one of the first to say we need to nationalize our semiconductor supply chain but we're the last ones to actually do something about it.
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USA has a lot of semiconductor plants.
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>>543352915
>>543353026
Samsung to my knowledge never pursued their own photoresist development. They mainly purchase it from several Korean companies that produce photoresists and from Japanese and German companies depending on the node.

The battle for the photoresist market is going to be interesting to monitor in the next decade as there is now a new inflection point.

The next generation of EUV for sub 1.4nm and optical/photonic integration is going to use Glass Substrates. We're getting a glass substrate photoresists from a Korean company for evaluation as they are the first in the world to develop it. [YC Chem].

https://www.trendforce.com/news/2026/05/18/news-yc-chem-reportedly-first-in-industry-to-supply-glass-substrate-photoresists-customer-targets-end-2026-mass-production/
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>>543345499
We'd rather be making emails saar. Or throwing a ball around for our fans saar



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