I just want you to know that socialism is coming to the USA. It doesn't have to be bad, just get right with your local socialists and there could be a future for you. That's all.
>>543361263"Democratic socialism" as an ideology has never produced a functional country because capitalists can simply buy out the political class to subvert the electoral process.
>>543361791You mean like the way they do now?
>>543361791You mean how they do already?
>>543361263Corporations are small planned economies. Weird how as they get bigger and bigger, the country becomes more and more shit. How do Marxtards explain that one?
>>543361263this is bad ordinary people are retarded.we just need a system that herds them and give them food and shelter while still doing the things elite need to get done to move the state. the only reason it failing is cause elite have become nationless fags that don't care if they fuck up the state.
>>543361263My local socialists are unemployed retards which is why they're socialists in the first place. If they can't be successful in this system they're not going to be successful in a socialist system. If they end up working for a guy like me now, they're going to end up working for a guy like me afterwards. The political and economic system doesn't matter. There is a natural hierarchy that arises based on innate qualities.
>>543361942>>543361988Yes. As it happens the people capable of building real shit aren't interested in being slaves or subordinates to lazy, entitled, mid-wits.
>>543364357Under communism, food isn't produced.
>>543361263You are weak and wont do shit.
>>543361263>what is socialism
>>543361263Will socialism get rid of all the brown people, or will I still have to live around them and give them all my money?
>>543361263this is true. they want to use Flock. 5 years is the timeline. Trump will grant himself war powers for a third term and you lot will REEEEE yourselves into hurting people. as planned.>t. insider2032/2033 will be the turning point of the war to transition for a celebration LXX superbowlbut it'll be ugly along the way. lots and lots and lots of very dumb people have been bred for this.
>>543364463can you clueless boomers fuck off
>>543361263your pic is just Animal Farm (a very short book) the cartoon.>humanity/society/life has been very bad to us, our seething resentments are justified, if we do bad things somehow good will result.
>>543361263>doesn't have to be bad,But it will.
>>543361791You mean how it be like it do?
>>543364212This.t. an American in his 30s with a six figure income, a paid off home, and who laughs at the concept of Socialist activists telling me that I need to do more to support *their* great vision for the future where they can sit around, live a carefree lifestyle, and where they look at me funny when I ask them 'what value do *you* provide to *my* life?.
>>543361263Thats why NatSoc is superior
How about National Demographic Socialism?
>>543364463Meanwhile under capitalism we have the government paying farmers not to plant just to keep the prices artificially high.Almost all of your fears of communism have materialized under capitalism.
Jesus was a socialist
>>543361263>Communist flag>Advocates "Socialism"You're too stupid and uneducated for politics.
>>543364615we've done all this before. they completely gutted every system just to make you ignorant, dependent, and hostile. 'the system's WANTS you to be like this. your revolution is a bull but you are not the matador. have you been to Cuba?
>>543361791What "democratic socialist" countries are there?
>>543362160Orthodox Marxism can at least say that the revolution wasn't for homosexuals and basically all non-Whites.
>>543364804he wasn't enforcing on anyone. if you want to use him as an example, he led by example. live socialist yourself and stop espousing it or nagging or inflicting on others. Christ is not a spiteful mutant.
>>543364818Socialism is the first stage of Communism, you would know that if you had read literally anything on the subject
>>543364798where too much food is produced? you don't see how those are not the same at all? are you doing the horseshoe thing
>>543361263"Rule by the people" is a practical impossibility.Regular people don't have the time or expertise to be constantly part of the political decision making process.They always end up outsourcing it to a small group of decision makers.Every political system ends up being the organized minority ruling the disorganized majority.This will always be the case because of the practicalities of group dynamics.The perennial problem is how to get the organized minority to rule for the common good vs. just ruling for their own self interest and exploiting the people.Socialism or communist claims to solve this but look at it's historical track record - whether "democratic" or not the party invariably turns into another oligarchy that starts ruling in its own self interest instead of for the common good
>>543361263Yeah socialims right? The idea that your coat is not yours but it belongs to your community, and if you want to go outside and use the coat you need to have approval of central comitee that is coordinating who gets the coat. Sorry it is not your turn right nowu, you can go outside without a coat, coat now is distributed to neighbour no1.VSCapitalism - you have full right to own your own fucking coat or two or even more and do whatever you please with them.I wonder shich is better.
>>543364132>My local socialists are unemployed retards which is why they're socialists in the first place."Socialists" are invariably rich kids that went to the "best" universities and have "elite" careers. They have had the better part of the last 50 years to implement their Democratic Socialist bullshit, and they never have.Do you remember lockdown? Pre-X ?Do you remember what that shit was like? Especially around the BLM riots. Rather than say "think of all the companies and corporations who didn't back it" instead, I'll honestly as you:Can you think of a big company or corporation who wasn't shilling for all that shit?Hard mode: off the top of your head. Don't go looking, did you encounter enough companies/corporations NOT going along with that leftist shit to the point that it justified you making a new brain file for this data?I can think of Bethesda Saudi Arabia or something not doing a gay pride logo or something. Big tech, all that shit, that was full of leftists.
>>543361263lol commies can't write two sentences without one of them being a threat.
>>543365026>socialism or communist claims to solve this but look at it's historical track record - whether "democratic" or not the party invariably turns into another oligarchy that starts ruling in its own self interest instead of for the common goodThen explain why the CCP rules for the common good of the Chinese people
>>543365026Shut up. Just let Jews control your society by pretending that normalfags have a say. Don't EVER read the Republic!
>>543365076That's a caricature. People owned their own coats in socialist Poland, ask your grandma.
>>543364844Haiti. Zimbabwe. Honduras. Guatemala. You know, stuff like that
>>543365080>hard mode: off the top of your head. Don't go looking, did you encounter enough companies/corporations NOT going along with that leftist shit to the point that it justified you making a new brain file for this data?Under Socialism corporations will not be allowed to make political statements
>>543365161Your whole socialist ideology is a caricature of human society
>>543364844The models Social Dems want to emulate is places like Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Red Vienna, etc etc.
>>543365161But I own my own coat now...so why risk it?
>>543365221Not an argument. Here's a coat for you.
>>543365284You're currently risking having everything you own taken away by the oligarchs.
>>543365208>Under Socialism corporations will not be allowed to make political statementsUnder socialism these corporations will be governed by social central comitee and will be making political statements constantly as a part of the goverment.I still have some commie signs at home from the workplace with shit like "rememebr to work hard for your socialist countrymen!" or "if you see any capitalist sabotage rememebr to report to your supervisor". Totally not political...
>>543365284It’s not your decision. OP is right in that it’s coming whether you like it or not, only question is how you respond to it
>>543365294Just like your whole blogpost about bullshit which is socialism.You literally never gave any argument for socialism and how it would work that isn't some kind of retarded unreal delusions of reddit faggot who still lives in basement of his parents house and never worked a day in his life, not to mention lived under his "glorious socialism".>>543365343Every single commie revolution stripped people from their wealth, usually also killing them in process. They did not need oligarch for it you faggot.
>>543364942I know more than you on the subject. Socialism isn't the "first stage" of communism LOL. Communism is literally the working class proletariat lineages (yes LINEAGES) of industrialised countries (this is England, Scotland and Germany etc) developing class consciousness as predicted by historical and dialectical materialism, which, combined with their genetic/racial superiority and the superiority of their dialectically shaped character and personality would PREDICTABLY overthrow the capitalist classes, seize control of the means of production for themselves and start operating these new societies as a democratic master-race coalition that would dominate the world. This was never going to extend to the lesser classes and lesser races. Slavery and mass immigration were viewed as weapons against the organisation of "free labour" proletariat and opposed only because of that. People not belonging to the right class LINEAGES and correct racial backgrounds, who did not possess this new class character, were NOT invited to the party. This means homosexuals, nonwhites, fat people, paedophiles, basically ALL OF THE MODERN LENINIST COMMUNISTS, are NOT QUALIFIED for the revolution. Do you know who IS however?The English working class. The American White working class. The German working class. Basically the three main groups that ALL Leftists hate the most. Marx and Engels at best, predicted Fascism and National Socialism, which renders Marxist pseudo science obsolete.
>>543365356Do you have any BLM or LGBT signs from the socialist times? Didn't think so.
>>543361263Socialist and former socialist countries.USSR -> dictatorshipDDR -> dictatorshipChechoslovakia -> dictatorshipRomenia -> dictatorshipHungary -> dictatorshipAlbania -> dictatorshipBulgaria -> dictatorshipYugoslavia -> dictatorshipNazi Germany -> dictatorshipLibya -> dictatorshipZimbabwe -> defacto dictatorshipVietnam -> dictatorshipDKRP -> dictatorshipCCP -> one party stateMongolia -> unknownVenezuela -> dictatorshipCuba -> dictatorshipBolivia -> democracyNicaragua -> one party stateI'm noticing something.
>>543365137Plato demanded Homer be rewritten. then the Septuagint appeared. it wasn't a translation as insisted but invented whole cloth.
>>543365484Oops, I forgot Poland.Poland -> dictatorship
>>543361263the only system that is going to work is all out war and mass extinction then we can all touch grass again
>>543365484What's the problem with a dictatorship that serves your interests? Would you rather have an oligarch-owned "democracy" that works against you?
>>543365479
>>543365208Socialism says that communists aren't allowed to exist. Anyone who has ANY KIND OF SOCIALISTIC INCLINATION or has understood and agreed with the ONLY common sense healthy parts about Communist PREDICTIONS (that superior people would rise up and destroy their INFERIOR overlords etc) will have become National Socialists or Fascists, who are the closest thing to fulfillment of the prediction.ANYONE still crowing about communism is therefore an AUTOMATIC PAEDOPHILE AND NONWHITE OR ANTIWHITE. Base level marxism is obsolete and ALL modified marxism is for homosexuals, jews, faggots, and paedophiles. There is ONLY National Socialism and Fascism. Most countries already submitted to Fascist corporatist economics and EVERYTHING the left want was already done by the NAZIS. But because they HATE THE WHITE RACE they will NEVER ADMIT IT.
>>543365571Yeah we're fine with other races in their own countries
>>543365604We will take care of you in the psychiatric facility (for free mind you). In fact that's where most of /pol/ will be.
>>543365484The UK and EU and the USA is a dictatorship.The USA dictatorship is the strangest because it is getting bossed around by the UK and Israel.
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>>543361263Even under communism, you still will not be a woman.
>>543365670Yeah women are equal get over it
>>543365181Didn't Zimbabwe just have a straight up dictatorship?
>>543365614>in their own countriesYOU FUCKING IMBECILE COMMUNISM IS INTERNATIONAL AND THERE ARE NO BORDERS AND COUNTRIES IN COMMUNISM. IT IS 101 OF COMMIE REVOLUTION.YOU WILL BE THE FIRST TO BE EXECUTED FOR NATIONALIST IDEOLOGY AFTER WE WIN.
>>543365721Yeah yeah there are no borders in communism just look at North Korea xD
>>543365479commie BLM
>>543365026Regular people are typically more intelligent than the kinds of people who want to be in government. I wouldn't be too quick to say direct democracy can't work. Remember, markets are elections too.
>>543365113>CCP rules for the common good of the Chinese peopleI just had this conversation with one of my managers at work. A Chinese guy in his 50's. Immigrated to Canada 20 years ago.He was complaining about Canada cracking down on free speech and firearms.He said >My father and grandfather's generation fought the Japanese, fought the civil war, they thought they were fighting for a better life. But really it was just for the benefit of a few people (the CCP). They're so afraid of the population they're monitoring and censoring us online 24/7, you can't even buy a kitchen knife without registering it with the government. I came to Canada to escape that sort of government but now it's becoming like China
>>543365825>markets are elections too.regular people are willing to pay 10x price for the same item if it has added shitty coroporate logo on it. They are idiots.
>>543364795Eugenics needs to remove the subhumans from politics completely. Then you could have "big-gay-ism" and it would somehow work if the population were smart and healthy.That's the thing people forget about civilisation, most of it comes down to having neighbours who won't eat your children and shit everywhere.>>543364782this guy gets it
>>543365896Did they bet it for you though?
>>543365896Agree. Just look at the entire nation of Poland. They're willing to start WW3 and burn down the civilized world because they hate Russians.
>>543364922>he wasn't enforcing on anyoneHow does it feel to be a lying kike? I bet it feels pretty good since its in your nature afterall
>>543365264Then why are they saying South Africa?
>>543365891One of the reasons I don't really buy the "the Chinese are coming to steal our shit ruined cities!"is that the history and situation in China is such a total fucking, very highly specific, mindfuck of a situation with problems that are so particular to China that it would be a dangerous silly distraction to try and have a big dumb fight in the West.A thing Westerners could understand is the idea of "the fall" to the backdrop of everything. Present civilisation and culture in decline, but also a huge decline in the past. You have basicallyThe fall of the Celestial Kingdom. The Manchu influence in the 17th century. The total dumpster fire that is Communism. The smart and cultured Chinese traditionalist types, have that level of shit to deal with. WHY would they want to potty train Patel and Tyrone in the West?I also noticed that East vs West fights basically dried up in the last 15 years and you started to notice Westerners warning Easterners about not making the same mistakes of the West, the East being shocked at what was happening and also a general sense that the ruling leftist "allies" in the West were total maniac morons.
>>543365761You're literally a fruitcake homosexual.The borders are supposed to be temporary. All badness and failure under communism is explained as something that has to be tolerated because of the existence of enemy non-communist ways of life that force the Communist areas to operate defensively and conform to different ideologies to an extent.So what this means theoretically is that EVEN THE COMMUNISTS THAT YOU WANT TO EMULATE DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THIS. You're advocating terrible intermediate stages prior to the wonderful true global revolution.
>>543366342is the 'they' in question you? Are you saying that?
>>543362160Planned economy versus "free market" is a false dichotomy. There has never been a free market economy in all of human history. American capitalists, for example, used to push for free trade with foreign countries when they were the ones with all the leverage. But now that China has risen to be the main industrial superpower, the same class of people push for tariffs and protectionism instead because they simply can't compete. The capitalist class never really believed in the ideals of liberalism and the so called free market, they have only ever believed in enriching themselves and securing their power. The same goes for similar false dichotomies like "liberty" versus "authoritarianism". Someone is always in charge regardless of if it's a communist dictator or some corporate owned politician/Judeo-American puppet in a fake democratic system.
>>543366724>the East being shocked at what was happening and also a general sense that the ruling leftist "allies" in the West were total maniac morons.Lol yeah this guy looks at all the woke stuff with a mix of confusion and contempt.One time he asked me >Why are white Canadians accepting all this 3rd world immigration? Entire neighborhoods are Indian or Muslim now. Why aren't they angry in the streets?I told him >They're indoctrinated with white guilt. They think opposing it is 'racist' and bad And he was just like >Pfft that's stupidAnd another time he told my colleague, a white liberal reddit r/childfree type>Why don't you have kids? White people aren't having enough kids. You should have at least one kid with your wife. You're becoming an endangered species My colleague was complaining to me about it like>Can you believe he said that?And I was just like lmfao based.And honestly I've noticed white Anglo Canadians are the biggest defenders of this system that discriminates against them - East Asians, Slavs and even some Iranians I talk to think it's retarded and the country's going in a bad direction.But white Anglo Canadians - especially the women - will defend to tooth and nail and call you a far right racist sexist blah blah blah if you question it.
>>543361263Trumpism aka MAGA is Socialism for whites.
>>543369614No, it's socialism for orange people, labor for white people.
>>543364357Farmers are subsidized by taxpayer money. We have the fattest social welfare recipients in the history of mankind. We’ve sent trillions in food to the third world over decades. And things keep getting worse. We’ve tried it your way. Fuck off.
>>543366282wut? you really don't get it? his existence pissed them off and they exerted onto him. Christ is Risen. Christ just is. Truth doesn't need to force itself. wanting to exert force is that demonic possession that demiurge, that circumcised psycho crucifier impulse
>>543366724>>543369579And actually I think it's primarily white liberal women driving this. The men are just simps.I used to have a couple buddies I could talk about politically incorrect things with IRL but they got shitlib girlfriends, distanced themselves and eventually stopped hanging out with me because their girlfriends were getting triggered whenever I'd say something even slightly politically incorrect. Even though they were silently nodding along in agreement they wouldn't dare upset m'lady.Happy wife happy life will be the destruction of the West. Pathetic.
>>543366822You're missing Marx's context. He took white Euro imperialism's benefits for granted. His concept of open borders was 1800s Vienna. If browns had tried to invade the way they are now, Marx would have been horrified, and probably golf clapped the Maxim gunners massacring them.
>>543366282that doesn't mean the modern conception of "tolerance" with women priests and such. truth just is. evil encroaches on it. doesn't mean be passive to corruptionbut exerting socialism is equally absurd
>>543365264Those countries are capitalist not socialist.They have generous social programs paid for by capitalism.Democrat socialist try to conflate social programs with socialism to confuse the the low IQ.Socialism is communism.
I like the kind of socialism where the govt funds public services and projects. The welfare state should be the domain of the church though
>>543370333That is not socialism.Socialism is communism.You are lower IQ and got confused and thought social services and programs were socialism.
>>543369690Orange people are White Oompa Loompas !!
>>543364615Kek, go move to North Korea then, you'll love their 'free healthcare'
>>543370274>Those countries are capitalist not socialist.>They have generous social programs paid for by capitalismYes? DemSoc isn't the same as socialism, just like State Capitalism isn't actually Capitalism. What you described is exactly what the DSA wants>Socialism is CommunismKill yourself
>>543361263Sure sure, right after you become a woman.The US has defeated socialism.
>>543370968Democratic socialist are communist. What is your IQ?Socialism is communism.Please issue a full apology now.
>>543370968>its not communism>its communism but gay and anti-white
>>543364615You're a memeflaggot kike, chink, or jeet that both has no sense of humor and is too fucking ignorant to know capitalism and communism are forms of economy and your butt buddy OP depends on retards thinking socialism is a government spending money on promoting general welfare. Boomers don't have that level of discourse, retard.
>>543371159are people not allowed to have opinions now? have there been any seizures of property or are you propping up the socialist boogeyman as a scapegoat instead of living in reality?
>>543370479Don't you have train tracks to go walk on pooer
>>543364357When was the last wave of starvation in the USA?
>>543371229MAGYAR CYGANY
>>543371469The dust bowl, when the government gave more welfare to non whites than ever before
>>543371338Here is the Democratic socialist party platform.How is it you don't know what the word "socialist" even means?You can look it up? Are you to stupid to do this?Socialism is communism. They don't use the word communist because it's political kryptonite. Also democrat socialist sounds like what Scandinavian countries probably use. (they are not socialist) People get confused by the fact socialism sounds similar to social programs or social services. And the DSA tricks the low IQ with this. Like how commies trick the low IQ with equity and equality.Now issue a full apology to 4chan and the internet for being stupid.
>>543361263It’s gonna fail, lol, I’ll enjoy it when it does.
>>543361263Historically, the biggest killer of leftists were other leftists. Not a good idea.
>>543371679luckily, a party in power still has to get approval through congress to have bills signed into law. I wont pretend that "democratic socialists" aren't trying to drop the "democratic" part from their title just to get socialism introduced into the U.S. but i also fully acknowledge that we already live in a country where many things are subsidized, and i'm sure you already consider that enough socialism as-is.I don't see a problem with socialized programs or taxes, neither did the founding fathers. the only thing they cared about was having a chance at deciding what taxes are fair, not for the eradication of them. so that's what i believe will happen. the current party fucked over middle class, blue collar americans through rising electricity and gas prices, alongside poisoning their water supply. this is just enough to finally tip either the house and or senate blue during midterms.will that momentum carry into the 2028? I don't know, we'll find out. and no, i won't apologize for pointing that that america since it's inception has fought for fair taxes, not the absence of.
>>543361263>People earning their own way in life is bad>give everyone free shit>by everyone we mostly mean niggers and immigrants
>>543364357Scarcity still exists.
>>543365113They don't.
>>543372180>the only thing they cared about was having a chance at deciding what taxes are fairWe don’t get a say in what taxes are fair and which aren’t. We don’t get a say in whether foreign wars are started or not. We don’t get a say in when globohomo jews just decide to replace the American electorate and population.Americans didn’t vote for our demographics to be crushed from 90% of the population to under 50% in a generation. It happened against our wishes Americans have never once voted for your lefty extremist man and ethnic European hate policies and laws like the DEI shit. It’s all forced on us.Fuck off with your red team blue team lies
>>543372331They’re not even immigrants they’re just replacements anon. Call a duck a duck
>>543361791Do you take medicine to treat infections or do you expect them to resolve themselves on their own?
>>543361263It will be socialist for all of like 4 years when the capitalists with turn the screws soo hard on american people they will all beg for their capitalist oppresor back.All you have to do is take their apple products and video games away and they will rise up against the bolschevik with great ire.They will ensure that there will be bread lines and it wont be enough.They will drive your family to cannibalism
>>543372712when i become a middle class american based on income, my opinion won't change. we have rules that we're bound to by and i'd rather play with those rules rather than ones given to north koreans or russians. also, the sentiment to stop being as racist happened prior to any mass immigration happening in the U.S., it was led by white people who have a heart. prior to the civil rights movement, the great depression united everyone to combat the consequences of greedy bankers fucking everyone over. you would consider barack obama an extremist for passing the affordable care act, too. yes, allocating taxes towards social programs is extremism in the eyes of the republicans.DEI failed so i don't know why you're still so hooked on that, but there is definitely some truth to white people controlling media and thus building a reputation for themselves over the years, a very curated reputation. or maybe you only have yourself to blame.
>>543371379Why do whites have welfare in the first place?
>Memeflag
>>543361263Socialism is just the wealthy shifting from letting people work to "prove" they "deserve" a share to directly controlling wealth distribution and deciding if they think you deserve to eat or not.
>>543361791>>543361263Holy shit we’ve already been socialist this entire time
>>543364756America is already socialist. Every market around you is subsidized by tax payer money. Your paycheck is subsidized because the company you work for is subsidized. 2008 proves socialism already exists for the corpos and banks. The government used taxpayer money to bail out shitty careless investments. Should’ve just let them fail
>>543361263>just get right with your local socialists and there could be a future for yoAre you implying that a good life under socialism comes from having connections? Doesn't sound very equitable
>>543364798That’s called socialism and it’s already been a thing since foodstamps. The government gave out food stamps to increase the profit of farmers. EVERYTHING IN AMERICA IS SUBSIDIZED BY THE GIVERNMENT EVERYTHING EVERY LITTLE THING BENEFITS FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND TAXPAYER MONEY.Markets begin to tank? Inject government money. AI company starts to fail? Subsidy. 2008 happens? BAILOUTS Corporate welfareThe only people not on welfare in America are blue collar workers who make too much to qualify for welfare and not rich enough to swindle politicians to bail them out
>>543374500Socialism for the rich. Brutal free market capitalism for the poor.
>>543374558The poor receive trillions of dollars of tax money. Though the money printing sort of steals it back.
>>543372180Social programs and subsidies are not socialism. They are paid for by capitalism.Socialism is communism.Why is it the lower IQ keep confusing social programs with socialism?Can a lower IQ person explain this to me?
>>543374656The poor yes which at this point mainly consists of spics. But the middle class and blue collar receives nothing
>>543374656And the poor use it to survive. That money ends up accumulating in the portfolios of the rich anyway.
>>543374500Those are social programs paid for by capitalism.What is your IQ?Socialism is communism.Will you now issue a full apology to 4chan after you look up the word socialism.And admit you are a bit lower IQ.
>>543374795>social programs >social >socialism Kek so at what point does it change from a social program to socialism the government is using our money to subsidize what they think it should go to. Don’t be dense
>>543374839Yeah I agree, but that's not what the other anon said. The middle class and blue collar do often get meme jobs from government regulations if they have the right demographic though(anyone non white male basically).
>>543374371Subsidized is not socialism.What is your IQ?Socialism is communism.
>>543374934Show me what the difintion of socialism is.Can you look it up?Communist love to trick people with words that sound the same but are completely unrelated.Equity and equality for example.
Capitalism isn't the problem. Steam is great and everything else sucks because of the stock market and Dodge vs. Ford.
>>543374968>>543375033Hey dumbasses we are a socialist country
>>543375068Thats not socialsim.Can you look up the defintion of socialism and show me what it means.
>>543374896>What is your IQ?High enough that it doesn't matter. John's Hopkins had me take the SAT when I was in sixth grade. I scored higher than 90% of all graduating high school seniors in 2002 gross and at the 99th percentile on the verbal section. They gave me a scholarship to go to college at 12 years old. Capitalism is an evil, greedy system which consumes human beings as fuel for the opulent luxury of a tiny few. It has to change.
>>543375130Public ownership IS government ownership
>>543375165Can you show me one country where socialism worked and the people lived happy lives?After Mao Zedong died the chinese knew thye had to switch from socialism to capitalism.And BOOM!Capitalism lifted 88% of the chinese population out of poverty after suffering all those years under socialism.
>>543361263Socialism has been in america for at least 150 years. CHINK
>>543361263Do I at least get to choose which state mandated transsexual gf I get? Will there be a catalog or something, bc I want one of the ones with a small uncircumcised pp
>>543375247Show one time where socialism did not lead to mass murder.
>>543375511SOCIALISM IN ACTION
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>>543375368America is a capitalist country which is why all the big companies and innovation happens in the USA.What is your IQ?
>>543375305What's the difference between communism and socialism?
>>543376027It's the same thing.It's just semantics.What we do know is the chinese tried socialism and 60 million people died.Then they switched to capitalism and 88% of their population was lifted out of poverty.And you can look this up.
>>543361263>just take the kneeUm....FUCK OFF!!
>>543376134>It's the same thing.>It's just semantics.It's not, and if we can't even agree on that, we're not going to be discussing anything real. I'll try to drag you into reality and you'll type out BOOM! and do the internet posturing thing and it's all just kind of pointless, isn't it?
>>543376134Retard 88% of China still lives in poverty.
>>543375511Mass murder is a good thing
>>543375824All of those companies and inventions were subsidized with government money. Most of elons companies get billions and billions in subsidies
>>543361263lol 'democratic socialism' is just attacking white people, takint their property, shutting down their businesses, and letting brown 3rd world shitters take everything over
>>543376324The state owns the means of production under socialism. The Democrat socialist have stated they want to impoverish white people. Seize private property and run the corporations.So if they want to impoverish white people. Do you think they will stop at impoverishing them? Basically they can't say for now they will mass murder white people because it's to extreme to get elected they have to wait until they have the levers of power.What do you think their plans are for white people? Mass murder?
>>543364615Sweet so we can ship mexicans there and they can't complain.
>>543376502That's not socialism. Subsidies are not socialism.Why can't you look up the definition? I put it on here several times.What is your IQ?We don't practice Laissez-Faire Capitalism in the USA. Capitalism needs rules and regulations and social programs to help people left behind. Food stamps, housing and so on. This is paid for by capitalism.
>>543361263So. We've always had money, like for 3000 years. So now we don't need it?
>>543361791Oh no. The Jew is mad about socialism again.
>>543361263There’s nothing wrong with a society empathetic to its less fortunate, lacking opportunity or connections, or beaten down by circumstance. These are everyday circumstances that must be part of the overall equation. The issue, as with every form of political or economic philosophy, becomes exploitation at the expense of others. Those looking for the loopholes rather than doing the actual work of existence. There is no perfect or better system as long as these leeches exist and degrade the system. The wealthy, as are the poor, are equally adept at exploiting and poisoning the waters, regardless of the philosophy embraced.
>>543376653I told you that public ownership is government ownership and you ignored me. The existence of a centralized government alone is socialism
>>543376862China became the world hegemony with central planning
>>543376862Is the USA a capitalist country or a socialist where all the large corporations are run by the government and there is no private proverty.It's easy to verfiy that the USA government is not running corporations.Will you look that up please and then issue a full apology.
Zionism cannot coexist with socialism. Rest assured they will bring civil war to us first.
>>543376653It’s not like the government doesn’t capitalize in its investment in a private company. Socialism would be taking over a business and setting a selling price to which no competition would exist.
>>543376904China had central planning under Mao Zedong and 60 million died. They were very poor. Then after he died they switched to capitalism.AND BOOM!Capitalism erased all the inefficiencies.How did it do this?Well like this.Now you are learning.
>>543377046And subsidies come from capitalism not socialism. Just like social programs are funded by capitalism.That is one thing a commie won't mention.
>>543364027>>543362160>>543361988>>543361942What socialists never mention is their "utopia" requires white men being turned into a slave class because every single other demographic are literal vote cattle who aren't capable of generating value. White men are the only western demographic who pays more taxes than they take, very obviously the goal of every other group is enslaving the tax payers so they can pretend to be high status with their fake DEI jobs. Thats why the entire middle class has servants in the shitholes these voter cattle are imported to the west from. The common man will be a slave forever if we do not cut the benefits and jobs from the voter cattle, thats why the economy keeps getting worse, these lazy parasites who want to enslave white men are unsustainable humans and thats why they had to flee their unsustainable shithole they came from.
>>543375033>>543376957Socialism is by product of capitalism. Nazi germany was a capitalist country. You can’t have socialism without capitalism. What you’re thinking of is communism. Once again look at pic related>>543375068The government owns the corpos/the corpos are in bed with the government there is no thin veil defining socialism. There is only levels of extremity
>>543361263>the 'rest of us' are parasites and 40 IQ bottom feedersjust die already
>>543377509Wrong. Cuba, venzuala, soviet union, cambodia, and china tried socialism and it did not work.Agreed?And it lead to mass murder.The DSA have stated they want to impoverish white people and seize there property, do you think they will stop at just making whites dirt poor?What is your expert opinion on this?
>>543361263the guy in your pic likely didn't mean freeloading spics and niggers and trannies
>>543377625My uneducated opinion is I don’t care. Whites were retired enough to let spice and other browns invade their country. It’s not my problem because most whites are just greedy consumers who care more about Monopoly money than the blood of the country. That’s how we got here today. As for those countries who failed at socialism- they were never capitalist to begin with so there was No basis for socialism to work. There were no millionaires, billionaires etc to take money from and distribute. Germany was a wealthy nation from capitalism therefore socialism worked. America is wealthy from capitalism and a rich homeland therefore socialism is more approachable. The existence of a government who can be influenced/can buy out shares of companies, can act as its own entity, can create social programs is socialism. The fact you are missing is socialism only works in an ethnocentric white society.
>>543377953The chinese had rich people the socialist killed them and stole their money and property.
>>543378051 again socialism has only worked for WHITE HIGH TRUST ETHNO STATES
>>543378356It failed in east germany and poland.BOOM!
>>543378356Killing the wealthy and stealing their wealth has never worked.Capitalism creates wealth.Tesla has created $1.4 trillion dollars in wealth. Even you are thinking. "That's pretty good, socialism never would have been able to do that."
>>543364844Venezuela. Maybe Cuba but not really. Chile was for a very short time.
>>543365264That's the difference between democratic socialist and social Democrat. Social democracy is still democracy. Democratic socialism is wordplay, the same way communism was the dictatorship of the proletariat, the common man. Ask any communist and they will tell you they are the true democrats because they are for everyone all together at the same time. It's delusion and/or deception.Social democrats ok. Democratic socialists not ok.
>>543365161So if I sign up for socialism I get to own my own coat and one bathtub carp a year for Christmas? Sign me the fuck up.
>>543365208Under socialism, corporations make only politically compliant statements. Every statement is a test of political loyalty.
>>543378356It has never worked.
>>543377953>My uneducated opinion is I don’t careThen why would anyone read the wall of text you left behind? You are a self admitted moron.
>>543379068They get into all these word games and semantics.The DSA and the progressive democrats would call themselves communist but for the fact it's political kryptonite.Also democrat socialist sounds like scandanavian countries and many people think scandanavian countries are soclialst, but they are not socialist at all. They are capitalist who fund their social programs with the wealth created by capitalism.So they play these word games to trick the low IQ.
>>543379290Only idiots proclaim their intelligence
>>543365544What are you talking about dumb nigger? Who the fuck says the dictatorship is going to work for you? Once it's not working for you, you can't do anything about it until the u.s. steps in and forces it to. This is precisely why we need to kill all commie faggots and decentralize the state completely in accordance with republicanism, then genocide every low iq worthless fucking feeder nigger like you on the planet who contributes nothing.
>>543379216It works here in the United States I know everybody blatantly disregard that 2008 happened, but the government did step in and bail out dozens of corporations dozens of banks in which they then took partial ownership. That’s not free market capitalism that is fascist socialism. They should have let the billionaires lose ass and lose every bit of their investments, but instead they used welfare money to bail out the corporations. I don’t give a fuck what anybody here says that’s socialism.
>>543364829You mean the place we literally had to force collapse on for decades by making all goods going on and off an ISLAND impossible? Yeah, if communism doesnt work, why dont you leave it alone and let it fail? Oh wait you only did that once before and that was China, who is now a better, more powerful country than the US.>>543365181>if I just say shit that is not true, the simple fact that I said it MAKES it true!When the FUCK did Zimbabwe last have a election?
>>543361263> I know our system has failed for over 100 years> but I think we've got it figured out this time
>>543371159No we're not. You can chant your lie over and over as much as you like but it continues to be false.
>>543379901"I dont care what every other definition of the word is, the word means what I say irlt means". What a dumb fuckin nigger lmao.
>>543379970China switched from socialism to capitalism after Mao Zedong died and 88% of the population was lifted out of poverty by capitalism.WOW.BOOM!
>>543380039Okay, explain the DSA platform to me.
>>543380039You're a dumb faggot who exists to serve retarded 70 iq nigger feeders and in the process of enabling the most retarded humans in our societies you sell out improving the human condition completely and for that crime i would happily execute you.
>>543374795>Why is it the lower IQ keep confusing social programs with socialism?We are saying this not because we dont understand the difference because you might be the FIRST person I've EVER argued with who says this. Literally 100% of the time I argue this shit, the other guy says that the USA is PRESENTLY a FULLY Communist state, yes, even under Trump, and that SNAP and Medicare and everything IS communism.We are arguing with what the consistent opposition has said. Its okay if you disagree, but understand that out of all the people on /pol/ crying about communism, your view on social programs is NOT the norm.
>>543361263"the rest of us" are 70 IQ parasitesjust like your last thread
>>543380329Do you agree that social programs are paid for by the wealth created by capitalism and not socialism?
