Do you think it is right to forcibly send people to war?
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>>543363578I think they have a right to defend themselves,
yes. if you arent willing to die for your nation, you'll be forced to die for your state
>>543363578I think it’s right for Ukraine to exterminate themselves. When are they gonna start drooooooofting holoholinas?
No.K am a firm believer of killing all those who want to force others into war by forcing them to kill eachother preferably while I eat popcorn and laugh. We're at a different timeline and level.Only my wants are Normal now.
It's why old ways don't pay anymore! They are killing the idiot leaders. lol
>>543363578>Do you think it is right to forcibly send people to war?yeshaving a country isn't just benefits, sometimes it's also dutiesget a legal exemption or stop hiding under your mom's dress, retard
>>543363578No but it doesn't matter what I think. Truth is you don't get rid of kikes tjey'll get rid of you.>not me Im safe in muh evenomic zone #45624Fuck off
>>543363673>you'll be forced to die for your stateor the state that conquers your nationit goes liek this>be Ukro >refuse draft successfuly>pidor takes your country because you didn't fight>pidor forcibly recruits you to fight pidor's next waryou won bigly didn't you
No, countries should spend trillions to forge a national identity, living conditions to die for, housing for everyone and promote the nuclear family to create attachments
And I don’t understand why this situation seems to be so specific to Ukraine. Ukraine is not the only country involved in a war. Israel, Russia, Iran, and the United States have also been involved in armed conflicts, yet we don’t usually see people being detained in the streets and forcibly taken away to fight in the same way.
>>543364159You are allowed to see only the things they want you to seehttps://fjc-fsu.org/moscow-opens-its-39th-chabad-house-and-jewish-community-center/
>>543364159>Israel Israel has very strict draft and mandatory military serviceeven women are drafted>Russia is the invader, not the defenderdoesn't need a draft as long as mercenary pidors are willing to kill ukrainians for money >and the US never been invaded, why draft
>>543363578No. Robert Heinlein put it best when he said that any country that resorts to conscription deserves to lose. He said that if something is worth fighting for people will fight for it. If you have to force them then it's not worth fighting for.
>>543363578No.
>>543363578Yes. They voted for it.
>>543364233>You are allowed to see only the things they want you to seeCorrect, seeing anything else is considered to be highly anti-semtic, goiym.
>>543364286but in the next breath you'll say women need to be coerced into having sex with you for the benefit of your country
>>543364286Yeah i can't figure out why a jewish puppet and his subhuman backers would have to resort to it
No, it's dangerous if your military has people in it that actively hate and despise you and your cause. That's like putting the enemy into your most vulnerable spaces willingly. It's begging for being sabotaged from the inside out.
>>543363673By that standard you should have been forced to march into machine gun fire during WW1
>>543364417Why would I say that? I have no trouble getting pussy, anon. No coercion required.
They want people to go to war willingly. Then they can keep those wars going for a long time. They could have kept the Vietnam war going another 20 years if they didn't draft people .
>>543363578It has been the norm throughout human history. I don't even think it's right to wage war but people do it anyway.
>>543364286Gangs of recrooters should be dealt with accordingly
>>543364460>I have no trouble getting pussy, anonsure, that's why you hang out on the fourth channel and my Bugatti is bright red
>>543364159>yet we don’t usually see people being detained in the streets and forcibly taken away to fight in the same way.You would, and you will, if those countries become desperate.
>>543364455Based jew (((Milton Friedman))) was totally against the draft and actually debated it with General Westmoreland during the Vietnam war. He, more than anyone else, was responsible for shifting public opinion against it. Friedman's stance was that the military should entice people to join on its own merits. Raise pay, increase benefits, make it a viable career option. Westmoreland replied, "You'd have me fight the nations enemies with an army of mercenaries?" And Friedman said, "You'd rather fight them with an army of slaves?" A real mic drop moment and shortly afterwards the draft was ended in the US.>>543364570You're a slav, anon. Why are you speaking to a White with such a disdainful and disrespectful tone?
Honestly, it feels to me like a kind of psychological conditioning. First it happens in Ukraine, but later the same thing could happen to us. People are already openly talking about rivalry with China, for example. Can you imagine what would happen if we were forced to go to war with China?
>>543364460Textbook example of a straw man argument.>But what about X (unrelated subject)
>>543364609>a WhiteI can clearly see your flag, D’etritus DeBris Muttson IIInot even the "whites" of your eyes are white
>fourth channelPolish flag be like...
>>543364609I also believe that the draft was ended because the social cohesion was gone post war and it's much easier to control public opinion while only involving professionals in foreign wars.
the whole crux of the issue today is that there is no more a clear sight of life outside the tribe and inside which is where it's easier to draw a line: you fight for tribe X, hence, thus, clearly, no bullshit, you get x, y, z, w, etc..., you don't, you get excluded from the tribe and you are on your owneverything in the west has been covered by such a thick layer of bullshit and psychological manipulation you don't even know where the friend ends and the enemy begins, what is yours and what isn't
>>543363689>I think it’s right for ukraine to exterminate themselves.>>543363862this type of shit retarded logic is why all poles are scum bred specifically by london to die brutally in a meaningless war that lost its relevancy 40 years ago>>543364159the most severe decades long propaganda mind fucking ever was perpetrated on ukraine+balt nations to create perfect goyim to fight Russia>>543364279ukraine started the war to purge Russian speakers from Russian land and is now on never ending offensive to recaptuer the 1991 borders that are gone forever never to return
>>543365008> bred specifically by londonyou almost said "perfidious Albion" but edited at at the last second, Ivanyou can turn your VPN off now
>>543363578No, it's never right.If it was a "just war" the Ukrainian people would want to fight.If a people does not want to fight it's probably for a good reason.
>>543365008>the most severe decades long propaganda mind fucking ever was perpetrated on ukraine+balt nations to create perfect goyim to fight RussiaI’ll be honest, they’re really fucking preparing us for a war with Russia. The crowd keeps shouting about it, but if you ask people one by one, you’ll find very few idiots who would actually go and fight Russia.Personally, the moment anything starts, I’ll already be driving as fast as I can somewhere far away. After everything we’ve done, I’m pretty sure Russia wouldn’t go easy on us.
>>543364611You’re next for sure. Get out
>>543365332>Personally, the moment anything starts, I’ll already be driving as fast as I can somewhere far awayYou wouldn't be the only one, I remember seeing a lot of Ukrainians in usually nice SUVs driving south on the highway in 2022. The rich are not dying for that shit.
>>543365332why don't you join the russians and become a good local servant for the occupying force the occupiers always need local support and will let you live, maybe even give you a job you can lick Ivan's boots for a room and a warm mealgood deal?
>>543365547Even I got to see my fair share of rich Ukrainians driving around in their luxury cars, all the rich people fled Ukraine.
>>543364682And you're a slav, anon. At best, White adjacent. But otherwise not really all that White in any real sense. Obviously your issue in this thread is that you have a hate boner for other slavs who call themselves Russians and you're totally fine with sending unwilling men to their deaths so long as it hurts Russian slavs too. You're not a serious person.>>543364761I agree. I actually meant to reply to a different anon, but I'm glad you chimed in because you're 100% correct.
>>543365588There’ll be plenty of people like that here without me. I just want to live a normal life. I don’t give a damn about ideology.
>>543363673fuck off. If I dont exist there is no point to "my country" existing at all.
>>543365547That’s true. I see insanely expensive cars here with Ukrainian license plates.
>>543363578It's a nessecary evil for all nations that don't have nukes. The only other option would be to have a large number of volunteers but that would also require a large population (in comparison to your potential invador).
>>543365780>I don’t give a damn about ideology.but ideology now comes for you. WHAT DO?on one hand you say >only idiots want to fight russiabut on the other hand you say you won't be staying around russians because >you want a normal life admitting there's no normal life under russians nice long way to say you want the benefits but not the costs
>>543366041But if I die the entire planet might as well explode. Its not worth sacrificing my life for the lives of others as if I don't exist their lives hold no meaning.
>>543363578Yes, how else THD could be achieved?
>>543366066You're having a real melty in this thread, Pole. If you had any capacity for self reflection you'd be embarrassed. But that's clearly not the case.
>>543365857Anon, don't you know that by importing people they automatically become "your people" and "your country" ? Now go feed the meatgrinder, no, they are not asking
>>543365727only browns and niggers mention race first regarding russia, you're at best an ignorant brown, and at worst, a pidor loverit's a sorry existence in both cases
>>543366160brown stay out pls, these regional things don't concern you
>>543365073no seriously, you were bred to die by london, and you cheer for it, while they clown on you to your face>>543365332>Personally, the moment anything starts, I’ll already be driving as fast as I can somewhere far awaynot ironically, every balt government has come out and said basically the exact same thing over the past weekit looks like all those checks london was writing with balt asses are about to come due>>543365588>"invaders">"occupiers"lmao the deeply embarrassing language given to you balt niggers makes you sound as pathetic as you are, which is a good thing, because no one will have any sympathy for you when you start getting splattered by Russian drones...everyone will look around at balts, their behavior and every word out of your mouth and simply say>"yep, you asked for it!! enjoy"and watch you turn to ragu sauce in 720p>>543366041>It's a nessecary evilglad you feel that way^the rest of the world will watch you die absolutely meaninglessly and pointlessly from abject comfort behind a screen thousands of miles away, and all you had to do to avoid it was drop the lunatic Russaphobia literally plaguing your minds
>>543366248>brown stay out pls, these regional things don't concern youmeanwhile, in polandlmao, cant wait to watch you solo Russia
>>543363578Depends.Did those people willingly allow themselves to be unarmed and helpless when Zelinsky was handing out AKs on the streets, day #2 of the SMO?Then, sure. It's hard to watch, but not "unjust."
>>543366257tl,dr: but pidor confirmed
>>543363578Every Ukrainian needs to die for their country.
>>543363625I think we have a right to conscript white goyim to the blood ritual. You lost tranny!!!
>>543366291>video of how your dad met ur mom weird flex
>>543366297lmao, polish men will die, and polish women will "serve" on the homefront
european males will all support this since they view their peers as competition to get rid of
>>543366346>video of how your dad met ur mombut enough about polish dating in 2026
>>543366066I’ve got nothing against Russia, and I’ve got nothing against Ukraine either. I talk to Russians here, and to be honest, I’ve met more decent people among them than among Latvians. I’m totally fine speaking Russian.At the same time, I know people like me - people who just don’t want a war - are probably in the minority here, and it feels like the government is deliberately pushing things in that direction. If something really starts, I don’t think the Russians are going to stop and ask what my personal views are. They’ll just see us as the other side, and I expect it would be brutal.So for me, the best option would be to leave and stay out of a war I never wanted in the first place.
>>543366099Sure but if everyone had that perspective human civilization would not exist. Maybe you could compromise by having a non-combatant role or something thats safe.
>>543366387>european males will all support this since they view their peers as competition to get rid ofeuropean males see a video like that and blame Russiaits fucking hilarious how absolutely mind-bendingly fucked their brains areat least Americans broadly recognize how absolutely jewed their government is and would never ever in a million years allow something like that to happen
>>543363578Depends. What is your current bad karma debt load like? If currently you have bad karmic debt then forcing someone to go die for you probably is a bad idea.
>>543363578Depends on the people
>>543366454>european males see a video like that and blame RussiaWhatever, they legitimately would feel nothing for their own people if this happened to them. European goyim are the ultimate soulless hive city biomass.
>>543363673That is true. Everyone is going to die for something whether they realize it or not.
>>543366405>I know people like me - people who just don’t want a war - are probably in the minority heretruly fundamentally insane how severely buck shattered baltic brains are on the "Russia" topic, especially when euros/london are so blatantly and in-your-face with their absolute disdain for balts, and their sheer smug, arrogant hatred they have for youthey call you toilet cleaners to your faces, laugh at your cargo cult culture, and balts turn around and fucking go into blind, 28days later zombie rages over Russia in response>gif relateda balt 15 seconds a brits anus contractions cease spraying shit in their face, and the "BUT RUSSIA and POOTIN" virus kicks in
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>>543366570>Whatever, they legitimately would feel nothing for their own people if this happened to them. European goyim are the ultimate soulless hive city biomass.and this apathy will keep them alivemeanwhile, there is basically nothing else you can do with balts at this point, other than send them to be graphically and brutally decimated by Russian drones. their collective brains are so broken on the Russia topic they basically cannot be integrated into any meaningful european future untill they are all gone
>>543363673Found the jew.
>>543366454>european males see a video like that and blame RussiaThis shows how much you know about Europe, most people barely follow what is going on over there, now ir's starting to be old and stale news. The press have also stopped talking about it as much, back then they talked about spectacular victories for Ukraine and the imminent collapse of Russia. Of course this goes for western Europe as they seem to keep eastern Europe in a state of hysteria and to be fair the war is much closer to them.
>>543366257>the rest of the world will watch you die absolutely meaninglessly and pointlessly from abject comfort behind a screen thousands of miles away, and all you had to do to avoid it was drop the lunatic Russaphobia literally plaguing your mindsIt'll be neither meaninglessly nor pointless if it's for the sake of securing my nations borders.
>>543363578Nope. Anyone pro draft can suck my cock and go themselves.
>>543366679>Of course this goes for western Europe as they seem to keep eastern Europe in a state of hysteria and to be fair the war is much closer to them.i should have specified "balts"...who...despite being an absolute shit-stain to 'europeans' suck it down with as national pride, and turn around and go into some hypnotic rage-trance at Russia, when every ounce of their anger and hate should be directed toward london and brussels instead.......(the villains ACTUALLY behind their collective perceived misery)>pic relatedone day it will dawn on ukraine who was actually the existential threat to their existence, and by then it will be 2+ million dead men too late to mattter
>>543366597That’s not entirely true. English people have never said anything bad to my face. What’s more, I know plenty of people who live in England and don’t exactly behave like decent people there. I lived in England myself, and I also did things that English people probably didn’t like.And at the end of the day, I was the one who went to England to work - it wasn’t English people coming to work in our country.What concerns me more is that our politicians often have dual citizenship - U.S. and Latvian and it makes me wonder which country’s interests they’re actually working for.
>>543366762>It'll be neither meaninglessly nor pointless if it's for the sake of securing my nations borders.again^ that logic is a 20th century mind virusthat has no actually meaningyour borders arent even "yours" or "secure" now, and they will only be orders of magnitude worse after your male populations are pointlessly wood-chipped into fucking gore-sauce for jews in london and brussels who would never in a thousand years make the same foolish dipshit mistake you all will be forced into....which....you seem perfectly fine with thankfully
>>543363578>>543363578In Ukraine Jews are in all positions of power now, they are not sending men to die. They are sending right wing men to die, based on AI scanned internet use.Think about it, you cannot force a man to fight. So they just put you into a position with no gun, where you will be killed instead. It's forced wiping out of right wing people who the jews hate.The same thing will be done in Europe if they goto war, you think they don't know what you post on 4chan?
>>543366958>your borders arent even "yours"Yes they are.>or "secure"That is no reason to give up compleatly and let other people take your shit, you are advocating for cuckoldry.
>>543365588Why don't you go join the Ukrainian army of you hate Russians so much, coward? Go willing, instead of getting kidnapped and stuffed into a van. Why wait for the Russians to come to you little bitch?
>>543366907>English people have never said anything bad to my face.they dont have to "LITERALLY" say the words to your faces, its their "policy" and being that balt nations are largely just tiny city-states, whatever london and brussels decides to do with you (send you to die against Russia) your governments will happily oblige out of a sense of 'duty' that was ignorantly bred into youbaltic nations are unique in that there is no other region on earth who's sole civilization-level purpose is to be used as human meat-trash to be thrown at another nation in a brutal war they will absolutely 100% die in, lose, and never recover from, while other nations watch and laughno south american nation, no middle eastern or asian one has this kind of 'suicide' culture or this fanatical obssession with a larger super-power they have zero hope of even denting let alone topplingit would be like breeeding cambodia to be absolute fanatical maniacs for a war with China, and day-in and day-out cambodian leaders would go on world news and threaten to blow up Chinas dams, then solo them in a war while cambodia waited for some mythical alien-tech super power to swoop in behind them like marvel and go>"and dont ever talk to me or my son again"or whatever fantasy balts have been conditioned to believe will happen when they start their war with Russia...its so absurd its hard to even think of an analog anywhere else on the planet
>>543367178youre a clown, a pathetic idiot clown farm animal who will never realize what you were bred for before you are herded into the truck and sent to the butcher factory
>>543367178>That is no reason to give up compleatlyHow do you explain the fact that we’re being prepared for a war with China? You can’t deny that China is openly being portrayed as an enemy today. What exactly has China done to you personally? How the fuck can anyone justify a pointless confrontation with China?
>>543367178>That is no reason to give up compleatly and let other people take your shit, you are advocating for cuckoldry.the "KEK" is the country who thinks its 1915 and they are fighting for "their borders and their peple!!!" when its the 21st century, and the rest of the (sane) world will watch you maniacs die through a screen while the world sends you "hopes&prayers" for your idiotic mission to slaughter your male populations before the jeets and niggers are moved onto your lost property you abdicated to go fight the enemy of a small clique in london that you otherwise have no fucking reason to have conflict with other than they told you to
>>543367246I agree that it’s genuinely absurd. Like I wrote above, I can see it too - politicians are leading us toward war, toward suicide. At the same time, I separate politicians from ordinary people.I even deliberately wrote 'England' above instead of 'the UK' That’s my own little form of protest, stupid as it may be.
>>543367293No i'm just not a cuck.>>543367322China isn't really seen as an enemy in my country, generally i think China is more of a rival for the west (US) rather then an enemy to be fought, at least for now.
>>543367322>How do you explain the fact that we’re being prepared for a war with ChinaAbsolute insanity but it doesn't suprise me, Baltic politicians in the EU power structure, such as Kaja Kallas, are the most foaming at the mouth insane warmongers out there
>>543367488You should cut him some slacks because as far as I know Croatia while being in the fucking EU, is still a homogeneous nation which is getting generous grants from german taxpayers. But they will found out soon enough, I believe.
>>543363578If it’s so great they’d have enough volunteers. The only reason a low status man would ever want war is if it gave him money and access to more pussy. Those terms are too expensive for the elite. It’s cheaper and easier in the long run to van them so they can be killed off.
>>543367488Alright then enjoy losing your contry withouth putting up a fight. Really the only problem you have with jeets and niggers is that they aren't using the military to invade your country. If they did that you'd have no choice but to surrender because the alternative means working with the system that wronged you and you would rather let your nation die then let that happen.
>>543367852Drafts are a consequence of the modern age where kikes gave women rights and war rules. Throughout all of history fighting men were promised booty if they won.
>>543367624Isn't Latvia half russian or something? Just pretend to be russian lol
I just don’t understand - is it really that hard to simply not go to war? What’s the problem with just living together?We have technology now that’s so advanced that soon we might not even need to learn languages. All we really have to do is stop doing terrible things to each other.Why do we need to fight Russia? Why do we need to fight China? Why do we have to watch Israel fighting the Palestinians?We’re just fucking apes - chimpanzees whose brains happen to be advanced enough to build weapons for killing each other.
>>543365008>this type of shit retarded logic is why all poles are scumYou mean what Russia's done in each and every way including this one? They forcefully conscript from conquered territory to push them at another conflict.If this is retarded logic to you, then you yourself are also calling your Russian allies retards.
>>543363578>hello I'm a non-Ukrainian who thinks it's outrageous that Ukraine is defending itself with its own citizens. You see, if it were up to me, I'd just tell Ukraine to surrender asap. After all, no war was ever won by fighting. Anyway wouldn't it be based if we signed up for the Russian foreign legion? Super based.
>>543363578Must be because now they are doing it to women too. How long before young teens get a ride in the Holol van to hell?
>>543368366>>543368368
>>543367892>Really the only problem you have with jeets and niggers is that they aren't using the military to invade your country. If they did that you'd have no choice but to surrender because the alternative means working with the system that wronged you and you would rather let your nation die then let that happen.Why did you invent some complicated fake scenario in your head to try to accuse that guy of being a hypocrite?>WELL IF THE GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY HELPED AND DEFENDED THE PEOPLE, I BET YOU'D STILL NOT HELP OUT OF SPITEYou have no idea what he'd do in that scenario and that scenario isn't the one we're living in anyway. That's a complete non-point just to defend your ego.
>>543368202Very antisemitic post.
>>543363673>if you arent willing to die for your nationWhat if your nation was destroyed by your own government? Like say... Ireland.
if young men dont take up arms against boomers, women, and kikes, they will vote to send you to die
>>543363578the people doing it are trying to not forcibly get sent to war, they're just doing it a different, more faggoty boot-licking way.
I don't think it's right to Putin to invade their country and force them into that situation to begin with. Anyone not willing to volunteer should be executed on the spot
>>543363578if its wrongwhy are they going then
>>543368729Ok kike.
>>543363578yes as long as they're ukrainians
There are rumours what recruiters gang rape all these men in vans, film it and coerce them into fighting by blackmailing them.
Ukraine kikes have the right to defend themselves using the dumb goyim slaves as shields.The most hilarious part is that they can't have elections or leave the country so they are stuck there until the bussification comes
>>543368432>Why did you invent some complicated fake scenario in your head to try to accuse that guy of being a hypocrite?Because he is. He's basically saying he would be fine with people invading his country so long as they're doing it with a military because then he'd might might have to fight in a war and put aside his grievances. Nah it's better to let his nation die.>You have no idea what he'd do in that scenario and that scenario isn't the one we're living in anywayYou don't have to be genius to know he'd complain about the jew or whatever the fuck because he's the type that would never compromise for the sake of acheaving a goal. I know his type, he's just like those climate activist who demand the impossible.
>>543368989Not really, globohomo jews are very rational. They allow young hohols <25 to leave the Ukraine, because they will join the labour force in EU and bring profit to jews that way. BUT middle aged hohols and older can't be profitable workforce so their lot is to die for the jews in war.
lick Ivan's boots for a room and a warm mealgood deal?you're already licking the boot of jews pushing a goy extermination warso you tell us
>>543363578It is right if the cause is right
>>543363625I agree, shoot busifiers on sight
>>543369272No man is allowed to leave no matter the age. Under 25s just don't get vanned.
>>543369261>Nah it's better to let his nation die.My experience is different, and I wouldn’t say I want to justify the Soviet occupation, but I can’t ignore the facts either.
>>543363785>benefits
>>543369499Stupid nigga."President Volodymyr Zelensky has now announced that young men between the ages of 18 and 22 will no longer be barred from leaving. And those who want to return can do so freely, without the risk of being held at the border."https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czx05gp51qlo
>>543369672Oh didn't know they reversed it my bad.
>>543363673I have no friends, no job, no girlfriend. why would I care about my nation when it has given me nothing?
>>543369887And imagine that the Ukrainians being taken off to war have their own homes, families, children, friends, and lives.
>>543363862You forgot the part where they all flee to your country and live off gibs while you go to war lol
>>543363818Wow. A cynical depressed frog. Never seen one of those before lol
>>543370075not my problem
>>543363578>Do you think it is right to forcibly send people to war?No. And I want it to happen too. This is what zoomers deserve for talking like ghetto monkeys.
>>543363578Seems fair to round up all those in favor of a war and ship them iff, INCLUDING the jews funding them, and the shabbos goyim press gangs.
>>543366400sometimes I think white women are the people with great fetish about others, these chicks coulda easily got a proper husband but instead wasting their genes on bbc
>>543363625I agree, OP will get his war
>>543370075They are low IQ retards who don't know to defend themselves
>>543363578People who kidnap are mindless violent animals and should be treated as such.>>543363673nation =/= state, the state hates the nation
>>543369672Hey look, it's Breakroom
>>543364609>Based jew (((Milton Friedman))) was totally against the draft and actually debated it with General Westmoreland during the Vietnam war. He, more than anyone else, was responsible for shifting public opinion against it. Friedman's stance was that the military should entice people to join on its own merits. Raise pay, increase benefits, make it a viable career option. Westmoreland replied, "You'd have me fight the nations enemies with an army of mercenaries?" And Friedman said, "You'd rather fight them with an army of slaves?" A real mic drop moment and shortly afterwards the draft was ended in the US.verrry interesting. I had never heard that before.
>>543364159..."Specific to Ukraine", huh...?
>>543364611>Can you imagine what would happen if we were forced to go to war with China?checked. I seriously dont see this happening. No one under 40 in the USA has any problems with china. They just see tiktoks of chinese LED cities, fancy chinese EV cars, Xi saying housing is not for speculation. No one in the US who would be able to fight a war has any animosity towards china. literally not my problem.
>>543364704jeets dancing in public spaces is absolutely pathetic and abhorent male attention seeking behavior.
>>543371093You’re embarrassing yourself. This is an obvious fake.
>>543371310Boy, I sure hope you're getting paid for making retarded posts like this. I'd almost feel pity if all this was done for free.
>>543371093>..."Specific to ukraine", huh...?its just ukraine and ukraine alone doing that absurd draft vanning to instant death
>>543371501I don’t consider myself an intellectual, but it was obvious to me from the very first second that it was fake. If you can’t see that, it’s hard for me to explain anything to you, because to understand that it’s bullshit, you basically just need not to be an idiot.
>>543368382“Oh no not the precious women”jfc
>dont defend your nation, neighbors or family from invading hordes>noo just give into russias niggotry just give up please!@!! they need the kilometers!
>>543371501Look at their feet, you idiot. They’re wearing socks. This is such a crude, badly done fake that it could only be aimed at complete morons.
>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/ciGqHrGrzUkRx5v8d4oFtw/LMFAO
>>543363785>sometimes it's also dutiesbut for some reason it's always the peasants, the poor, the ''small'' people that do the dying. Ain't that a bit odd? you retarded cunt child.
>>543371913>ahha die brutally (((defending))) land you didnt want anyway, thats infested with Russian speaking people you dont want either>noooo you have to die graphically for land you dont want anyway!!!thanks london! ukraine is happy to oblige
how else would people profit from world wars if they werent forced
>just let them take whatever they want its not worth ityes, yes thanks for your input john from ohio oblast x2
>>543371913>>dont defend your nationJust make it voluntary :) you'll see how many people want to die for Ukraine. If people don't enlist voluntarily then the will of the people is that the country is not worth defending. Quite simple
>>543363578Yes, if it's a defensive war repelling the invaders. No, if it's a war of aggression.
>>543372416You, for example. You were involved relatively little in WWII, and afterward you ended up with global dominance.You are smart, seriously.
>>543363578It's just another sacrifice to saturn done by the jews. Now Ukraine will be flooded with the animal races and those that kidnapped ppl won't receive what they deserve.
>>543372537So does that mean you agree that you’d be fighting people right next to you who don’t even want to fight?
>>543372540the primary interest of the US in WWII was guaranteeing global communism movements were succesful anywhere on the planet they were flourishing
>>543372760I understand that I’m probably going to get a lot of abuse for saying this, but I don’t see anything inherently wrong with communism. When I talked to my grandparents, they never told me that they had lived badly. Quite the opposite - my grandfather once told me that he felt sorry that I have to live the way I do today.
if usa was ukraine and neighbored russia, as an american, youre good with them taking everything?
>>543372939>If my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle
>>543372939That's not the question, I'd you want to go fight go ahead and do so. Don't kidnap men for your wars.
>>543363673You are essentially livestock to the government
>your warsnigger
>>543370977Ancaps are always based and anti-war. War is terrible for the economy, it only destroys wealth and enriches a few handfuls of state backed weapons corporations.
>>543363578>Dying in a war where your country is already losingI'd rather fight a draft officer than a swarm of drones. Ukraine is permanently destroyed demographically; it's all going to be Indians over there during reconstruction.
>>543373125War is a reset for international finance, bad for you economy, food for theirs
>>543363578>>543363625>>543363673NOOOOO MEN WHO USED TO FIGHT FOR THEIR COUNTRY ARE BEING PUSSIES NOOOOO YOU WON'T REBEL YOU WON'T FIGHT THE EPSTEINS RAPING YOUR CHILDREN BUT YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT DEFENDING THE BORDER NO WONDER AMERICA OPENED HER BORDERS NO WONDER THE E.U. & RUSSIA OPENED THEIR BORDERS YOU'RE ALL PUSSIES WHO ARE NOT DEFENDING YOUR BORDER BECAUSE YOUR JEWISH OVERLORDS SAID SO ;D SORRY RUSSIA & UKRAINE ARE DOING NORMAL THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE ANCIENT TIMES GROW UP CHILDREN ;3 AMERICANS HAVEN'T DEFENDED THEIR OWN BORDER FOR 60+ YEARS... KEK YOU DON'T HAVE A COUNTRY ANYMORE. YOUR OWN FBI DIRECTOR IS A RAJEET RAPE BABY. IT'S OVER GOYMEN. XD UKRAINE IS STILL A WHITE NATION NONE OF YOUR COUNTRIES ARE STILL WHITE, RUSSIA & AMERICA ARE NOT WHITE NATIONS ONLY PART-WHITE LARP ECONOMIC ZONES ;3 REMINDER RUSSIA STARTED THE WAR IN UKRAINE LIKE AMERICA STARTED THE WAR IN IRAN FOR ISRAEL. SO- THE BLOOD IS ON RUSSIA // AMERICA & ON YOUR MUTT CHILDREN. GOY MEN. WE ARE GOYMAXXING XD
>>543373215Good*
>>543364159>> RUSSIA ISN'T DRAGGING MEN OFF THE STREETS ERRR WRONG INCORRECT ISRAEL & IRAN ARE FANATIC SEMITE SAND NIGGER NATIONS SO THEY DO NOT REALLY COUNT SINCE MOST OF THEIR POPULATION ARE ALREADY SCHIZO PHYSCHOTICS & INBRED SAND NIGGERS WHO FUCK AND MARRY COUSINS.
>>543364460YET ALL OF YOU ARE PUSSIES I GO OUT EVERYDAY IN PHOENIX I GO TO THE BARS AND 99% OF THE PEOPLE I SEE, INCLUDING THE MEN, ARE MENTALLY CHILDREN & PUSSIES WHO WILL NEVER EVER DO ANYTHING FIRST UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM
>its ok for aggressive nations to invade and kill your family like the niggers they are, just ignore it bro, just left them move into your house.
youre all third world niggers until proven otherwise
>>543373215>>543373268FRANCE IS MY LEAST FAVORITE AFRICAN NATION. ITALY IS MY FAVORITE NORTH AFRICAN NATION. MUSSOLINI IS MY FAVORITE BASED BLACK NIGGER MAN.
>>543373353IKR MOST PEOPLE ARE SLAVES // CATTLE THE TWO THINGS MUHAMMADS & KIKES ARE RIGHT ABOUT: FOIDS & MASSES BEING CATTLE // STUPID // MORONIC
>>543373353Who are you quoting?
>>543373405>> Canadian Flag >> You're all third worlders GOOD MORNING SAR YES SAR KASH PATEL I WILL SNEED YOU INTO THE HECKIN VALHALLA
>>543373353Let’s remember the reasons. I’m already talking now about a possible war with China. How would you justify it if your country ended up taking part in a war against China? China hasn’t done anything bad yet - it’s simply developing and becoming a competitor.What would you do if you were pressured or forced to fight against China?
>>543363673Yeah someone is, lol
>>543373487Russia & America Are aggressor nations Thing is you're both race mixed militaries and you cannot win wars anymore. Russia & America haven't won a single major war since WWII.
Any Ukrainian man who does not carry at least a shiv at all times deserves to be sent to the meat grinder. It's the greatest shit test for bottom tier males. I feel no pity for these shameful weaklings
>>543370364Jewish fingers typed this
>>543363578no. because if you have to the war is already lost.
>>543372939absolutely shit nigger retarded argument that is nothing at all like ukraines idiotic fake shit eating conflictIf Ohio was split off from the US 40 years ago, and over the ensuing 4 decades, a 30+ nation coalition of europeans quietly dumped $Trillions into culturally mind-raping buckeyes into believing they were a unique, stand-alone culture (thats ackshullly older than the US itself) complete with their own pig-english vocabulary they were enforcing at gun-point, and on top of it, this coalition was couping the ohio government one after the other untill said ohio government was now a tool of the euro-coalition, all while flooding Ohio with $trillions in weapons and the totality of 4 decades of european military equipment aquisitions, maybe the analogy would be close to ukraineyou absolute fucking retarded nigger>pic relatedbut imagine the Ohio flag
>>543373572Russians have a good word for people like that: pidarasi.
>>543373572ukraine is the aggressor nation trying to capture Russian land it lost decades ago, that it doesnt even want anyway, which is why people have to be FORCED to fight for such stupid, nebulous foreign goals
lol
>>543363578It's not right but it's neccessary
>>543363578>Do you think it is right to forcibly send people to war?If you put a gun in my hand, the first person I'll shoot will be you.
>>543373811>It's not right but it's neccessarywhats ukraines victory condition?what is a definitive, achievable victory for ukraine in 2026+?
>>543373811>It's not right but it's neccessaryYou drank their koolaide.
>>543373859>If you put a gun in my hand, the first person I'll shoot will be you.ukraine thought of that, so instead they handcuff you, and you dont get a gun untill the only other people around you are fellow handcuff'ees and the handcuffers are miles away in concrete bunkers training mercenary 'backing unit' machine gun nests on you as the cuff keys are drone dropped into the bussified unit
>>543363578I was interested in what redditfags think of this and was surprised these retards support it(I'm assuming as long its Ukrainians, not them). Their whole argument was basically >something demonic and evil happened to other people and they were forced to be conscripted therefore its only justice that every random nigga gets conscripted too Absolutely demonic.
nobody is trying to take ukraine but russia, the ukrainians wrote their constitution the way it is because they knew russia would be the aggressive in the future.niggers cant/dont change.niggers signed away any claim they had over ukraine in 1991 and then putin doubled down on it a few years later, your arguments are retarded copes
>>543373732Where did you get that pic from?
>>543373811Tu cerēsi ka tieši tu būsi tas, kurš mani sūtīs karot, kamēr pats sēdēsi mājās un mierīgi baudīsi dzīvi?
>>543363578If somebody tries to force me to fight so I can protect the shareholders ((((profits))))) then I know who my enemy isAnd I will fight my enemy
>>543373353The real invasion is happening through immigration. Canada is actually a prime example.
>whaaddabout canadado teds from ohio oblast really?
>>543364455>Maginot line
Leaf just can't get over men not wanting to be drafted. Day of the rake soon.
>>543363578It's their DUTY!ICE exists to deport ILLEGALS from the US: expats, draft dodgers, debtors, etc!I hope someone shows Trump this:0) FINISH THE WALL!!!1) Use ICE to do the draft, they're popular and any anti-ICE argument can be drowned with "70% of voters voted THREE TIMES for ICE to deport illegals including draft dodgers!"2) Pay spics Trump deported for each white they deport back to the US, radicalize them by showing them how happy and in-favor whites were of their suffering. Afterwards, apply the same model to everyone else.3) Pay pro-white celebs to drown white whinners with their screams about "whites are not invaders, we're pioneers and settlers"4) Kill anti-draft faggots by using Pretty Good memes :D
>>543373696You lost, tranny
i dont want to be drafted either, so id prefer to not be invaded by a bunch of niggers forcing mny country to defend itself
>>543373353These heroic wars where you are defending your home and nationalistic music is playing in the background are a product of fiction. That doesn't happen, you die because some rich fags benefit from this
>>543363578>>543363625>>543373217Defending yourself from a draft where the result is 99.99% guaranteed death and having your death recorded for russians, westerners, and other hohols to masturbate to IS fighting for your country in a way. The vietnam war draft underwent the same issues, college kids died over protesting that shit. If the US government started pulling this shit we'd have Civil War II overnight
niggers dont understand the domino effect>>543374473yes rich niggers who are making decisions to invade asd kill your friends and family
>its ok just let it happen, bro
>>543374052Kasselstrand was pro Ukraine when it was cool
>>543374520As opposed to suspending elections and enacting a draft so even the majority don't have a say in this? I have no stakes and I don't give a shit about Russians and Ukrainians but drafting is demonic shit. If you feel so heroic you can volunteer, not everyone is as brave as you tough Internet guy.
>>543374686dont follow your constitution bro, its not worth it>>543374447
>>543374473I agree with you.
>>543373534NONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO TAIWAN WTF XD You don't have the logistics to invade the Middle East and you DELUSIONAL ANONS really think you can fight China You don't have to Let the Asians fight one another goymen China hasn't won a war in it's entire CCP history. KEK China Went into Vietnam RIGHT AFTER WE BOMBED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND DID ALL THE WORK & HAD 70-80% LOSSES IN SOME AREAS. KEK THEY LOST THEY CANNOT FIGHT SUB-HUMANS ARE BAD AT WARFARE LIKE THE SAUDIS ARE NO AMOUNT OF MONEY IS GOING TO FIX INBREDS AND SHITSKINS. KEK
>>543374796Yes, If something happens here I'll run away in the opposite direction the instant it starts
>WERE HERE TO LIBERATE YOU BROTHERS!!!!!!
>>543374796>It's Russians fault the constitution is so supremely retarded it gives the state tyrannical powers over every single individual when IT chooses to declare warKek. Why would anyone care about a constitution they didn't write or agree to?
>>543373771Kek >>543373776LOOK AT THIS RETARDED WEIMERIMUTT DOING MENTAL GYMNASTICS REMINDER, SIMPING FOR AN ANTI-WHITE WAR RUSSIA STARTED MAKES YOU A RACE TRAITOR. BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY A SHITSKIN ANYWAYS SO YOU'RE ALREADY GOING INTO A MASS GRAVE AS YOUR NATION COLLAPSES I CANNOT WAIT FOR WEIMERIMUTTS TO TRY TO CALL 911 WHEN THE POWER GOES OFFLINE XD
RUSSIA INVADED ANYONE SAYING OTHERWISE IS A SHILL OR A SHITSKIN ;D PROBABLY BOTH ON THIS WEBSITE XD
>>543374869youll just leave the property you own and move to another country, yes. i believe it. youll leave your family there to be starved.>tf lmao>>543375049how fucking 3rd world are you pal? let me see your actual flag.
SORRY YOU WEIMERIMUTTS LOST ALL YOUR MILITARY BASES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. SORRY -1,000 MUTTS ARE DEAD OR WOUNDED. SORRY YOUR SAUDIS LOST YEMEN AND CANNOT DO JUMPING JACKS. SORRY YOU CANNOT GOON ANYMORE SORRY YOU CANNOT CONSOOM SORRY YOU CANNOT AFFORD GASOLINE I RIDE A BIKE AROUND PHOENIX SO THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ME ONLY YOU DUMB GOLEM POOR LITTLE ZOMBIES.
>>543374869BASED SHITSKIN FLEEING AT THE FIRST SIGHT OF DANGER. GOOD MORNING SAAR. TRUE SAUDI SAAR.
>>543375258-1,510,000+ RUSSIANS PLEASE SEND MORE SUB-HUMAN ZOGBOT GOLEM ZOMBIES TO DIE AND GET MUTILATED ;D
>>543373515ill post hand with timestamp, ill denounce cattle, cows are niggers and so is anyone who wont denounce the quran or the talmud.
>>543374880lmao>ukroids blast "collaborators"
>>543370329That's not cynical you retard. He's right, if you don't solve the jew problem the logical conclusion is them drafting you
>>543375575ukraine doesnt have those type bmp you moron.
>>543375561ISLAM JUDAISM & CHRISTIANITY ALL COLLAPSED AFTER WWI ALL OF THESE RELIGIONS ARE IN TERMINAL DECLINE ANON BUT YES I DENOUNCE THE QURAN & TALMUD. >>543375575LOOK ANOTHER COPING WEIMERIMUTT WHO HASN'T WON A SINGLE MAJOR WAR SINCE WWII AMERICA LOST KOREA AMERICA LOST VIETNAM AMERICA LOST THE MIDDLE EAST AMERICA LOST THE MIDDLE EAST AGAIN XD [Iran]
let me correct that, they didnt at that time
>>543375620THE JEWS RUN ALL OF YOUR NATIONS SO ALL OF YOUR NATIONS NEED TO COLLAPSE IN ORDER FOR THE JEWISH WORLD ORDER TO DIE >> B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT MOST PEOPLE WILL DIE I DON'T CARE MOST 'PEOPLE' ARE TRAITORS OR SUB-HUMANS. NOTHING OF VALUE WILL BE LOST OTHER THAN WHITES.
>>543363578No, never. If not enough people are willing to fight for a country, then such a country is not worth fighting for.
>>543375699Correct.
>>543375626I don’t want to play devil’s advocate, but the numbers are very interesting.>Since February 2022, far more civilians have been killed in Ukraine than people killed by police in the U.S. roughly 17,000+ confirmed civilian deaths in Ukraine versus about 6,000 police killings in the U.S. over a similar period.Approximately 17300 civilians killed in Ukraine versus around 6220 people killed by police in the United States.
>>543374447You are getting invaded by 1M+ poo invaders/yr, retarded nafoid. Give it a rest, nobody is fighting for these anti-white economic zones
>>543374102Nice google translate buddy.
>>543375864im not sure what point youre trying to make. ukraine is being invaded and cities are getting hit with missiles and drones daily. comparing those civilian deaths to us police killings doesn't really tell us anything.>>543376108>whuddaboutcheck your flag, moron. nafoids can kill themselves but its hilarious twitter niggers own your brains, lmfao
a lot of anons bring out a lot of good points. reality is they have it all figured out how to deal with doggers and people trying to flee the country.but i know of a 100% fool proof method: when the enemy invades just pick their side immediately.the grim reality is that our elite class psychos have priority queue on the escape routes and they will burn the bridges as they flee. ironically the hohols that got it the best were the ones that ran to russia, not the west. and it will be the case here too. when they invade im putting my family in the car and start driving towards the border to them with a white/russian flag hoisted.im a survivor you see, not meat to be killed. ironically the people i have to fear are my own who will gladly bomb my car and then blame it on russia for clout. psychos all of them
>>543363578No because there is nothing of social value for which they are dying for. In the past you could argue that they were dying for their culture, values, and people. None of that means anything now that most western countries have open borders and are multicultural. Instead you are dying for banks and corporate interests who profit from the war. If people understood what was happening they would kill the oligarchs instead of strangers in another country.
>>543376239>I- I'm not.. not a nafotroon, I swear!>we sure do love the draft ammirite my fellow chuds?21pbt neurotic chickenhawk
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WHY DO YOU THINK IAM COLLAPSING THE WEST // RUSSIA // E.U. // U.K. // ISRAEL BILLIONS WILL PERISH
>noooo dont reply to replies youre neurotic
>>543376461IS THAT KASH PATEL SPOTTUMGOTTUM SNEED HIM OR SEETHE UM
>>543376239I have a question: how is it that Ukraine, which has been under military invasion since 2022 and where people are dying every day, has around 17000 civilian deaths, while in the United States, where there is no war, the police have killed around 6000 people over the same period?
>>543363578I’m opposed to murder. The greatest of all murderers are the ones who write and enforce laws against murder. Bit ironic if you ask me.
the comparison is retarded. youre comparing killings in peace time us to people killed during an invasion, and the un said ukraines toll is undercouned anyway.
>>543374229>Maginot lineWhat exactly is your point there ?
>>543374447not your country, rapejeep patel
>>543363578>Do you think it is right to forcibly send people to war?This is the consequences of being inactive politically and militarily as men. Ukrainian men let their country do whatever the fuck it wanted and now that means they are all going to be exterminated in the freshest war hellscape. They all failed to organize, revolt, and control their own country. They let Jews do it for them. End result: no Jew is serving, only leading from the rear, the rest fled the country. All non-Jew citizens are being sent off to die for Jews. Every Ukrainian received the FELL FOR IT award, and continued to receive the award. Let Ukraine be a lesson to all men globally. Let Jews run your shit and you goy will be massacred as they see fit.
>>543375626>ukraine doesnt have those type bmp you moron.totally agree, ukraine would never do something shit-retarded and bloodthirsty for no reason>>543376843ukraine isnt being invaded. Russia is literally defending its own soil from ukrainian offensive to capture territory it doesnt want anyway
>>543363578No. It's short-sighted and conscriptees have every right to defend themselves.
>>543363673Men like you deserve no mercy. I’ve lost friends in the Russian Ukraine war. We used to play video games together for years. Now they’re being forced to kill each other irl for causes and countries they don’t believe in. Fuck you! Nationalism and patriotism are dead. The only thing that’s left is my tribe. And I’ll fight to protect it. I won’t fight for globohomo interests
>>543376931HIS POINT IS HE IS THE TRUE ARYAN SAAR, THAT IS PAKI!!1
>>543377114MAYBE THOSE RUSSIANS & WEIMERIMUTTS SHOULDN'T HAVE SIGNED A JEWISH CONTRACT AND SHOULD HAVE KILLED THE EPSTEINS MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD STOP BEING PUSSIES ;D REMINDER UKRAINIANS ARE DEFENDING THEIR NATIONS RUSSIANS & AMERICANS ARE INVADING OTHER NATIONS DYING FOR JEWS. IT'S NOT THE SAME. I HOPE MORE RUSSIANS & MUTTS DIE BECAUSE THE JEWS WILL JUST USE THEM AGAINST US IN THE COLLAPSE ANYWAYS.
>>543377081>>543377114>Nationalism and patriotism are dead^the single most diseased brain plague of the 20th century that has no place in human life"muh nationalism"is the antithesis of human life, and the DNA of jewish psychosis.a literal system where the many die graphically and brutally for the few because 'its their duty'nothing could be more jewish at its essence if actual literal scientific effort was devoted to developing such destructive ideologynothing has claimed more lives, in as short a period of time as 20th century style (((nationalism))) either....and its not even close20th century ((('ism's))) were the most damaging brain virus's ever released on humanity
>>543363578it's pretty dumb. not a way to victory if you're jsut sending target practice
This is so fucking horrible. These were ordinary people who didn’t want to fight just elderly women!
>>543363785>having a countryFighting for one's country and fighting for one's government are often two different things.Vietnam was a bullshit war waged against a country that was no threat to us and was almost entirely waged for the sake of the defense industry. Draftees would have been 100% on the moral high ground had they used lethal force against whatever cops or MPs tried to conscript them.
>confirms niggotryno surprise here
>>543364417>What you want your enemies to lose and for you to win??lmao
>>543364159>forcibly taken away to fight in the same wayUSA actually did this back in WW1, WW2, and Vietnam eras. Media only shows you the "brave" parts, not the part where men were being executed for being deserters. There were officers in the US Army that were putting rounds in AMERICAN foreheads for desertion. There are even stories of non-deserters almost getting killed due to organizational goofs. Which means - there were normal people killed like that, and gov't definitely covered it up. All of this happened before everyone had a camera in their pockets, so you don't get to see footage of USA sergeants rolling up in humvees to nab some country boy who didn't want to go. And no, Jewwood is not going to make a single movie about ANY of this, because it's anti-Zogbot propaganda. They don't want you to be aware that Yes, America is JUST LIKE THAT.We're just lucky that America is currently in an all-volunteer state. When the draft does come - that is when USA will break out the vans and shoot deserters again. Shit is already structured to support it - state side you train with rubber guns and shit, with high vigilance around real firearms, and in the field guns and ammo are a plenty and not tracked as hard. Carry on base is LITERALLY ILLEGAL. They are hyper terrified of VOLUNTEERS right the fuck now. You think they won't be terrified of draftees? You are very wrong. Draftees will be treated like prisoners just like the old days.
>FINNA 2014
>>543363673my nation leaders(secret service) canceled my elections and called everyone retarded for voting wrong they can fuck off far away
>>543377525>>543377483>>543377431>>543377399Ti zhevesh v Canade, ti ukrainec, ti ljubish vojnu. Pochemu ne edesh v Ukrainu?
>>543366066You’re exactly like the meme lmao
>>543377722i dont speak latvian or whatever. im guessing more mental gymnastics either way
>>543377839Don’t lie to me. You understood everything.
>>543377193You blame innocent men who were press ganged into service. You’re fucking evil. >>543377231There are still things worth defending. But none of them have anything to do with the state or its interests. I would fight to protect my home and my family. I won’t fight to protect the business interests of this corrupt government or big business. Patriotism is bullshit. Why fight for a country that hates its own native population and prioritizes the hostile foreigners? Thats why military recruitment is drying up. Especially among white American men. They see no reason to support a country that hates them and disrespects them. I have a friend from down south. He was gonna go join the military but after they tore down the confederate statues that honored his great grand pappies he said he ain’t gonna.
>>543377947>There are still things worth defending. But none of them have anything to do with the state or its interests. I would fight to protect my home and my family. I won’t fight to protect the business interests of this corrupt government or big business.niggers cant understand this part
>>543377947>Patriotism is bullshit. Why fight for a country that hates its own native population and prioritizes the hostile foreigners?you are fooled into the false premise to begin with. there is no such thing because everything is designed so the line goes up. they want the genders hating each other, breaking the family, because more people living alone means more demand for realestate, that's 2x the demand for energy, need more cars, more food. everything. it's in the best interest of capitalism.patriotism is just a meme to fool stupid men to die so the line goes up. they're beyond saving. they're all evil psychos. as soon as you see a politician, no matter what rank, know that that person is a psycho and you should tread carefully
>>543363673>either die or get dragged out to dieSounds like a shitty place to fight for. Ill let it crumble. enjoy the kamikaze drone thats gonna turn your head into cat chowder
>>543363578only white males, we need to purge the world of them
>>543377947someone got extremely rich on hohlandia https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/gdp-growth-annual
>>543364159Because holols and pidors have a brain the size of a peanut. They are violent orcs, built on a culture of death and destruction. See how millions of them died in holodomor, a subhuman species so demoralized, so humiliated, they lack a conscience at all. They are comparable to sewer cockroaches, they exist, they eat, they move around, but they are not mentally acute, aware, or alive. They simply become hamburger in trenches by the millions because a twerking jew shook his cock and told them to. He is literally trinkling the remnants of his piss in their face every time he gets done urinating, and the ukrainians hold their mouths open for more. lmao!
>>543363578They voted for it.
>>543363578It is only right if it is done for the right reasons, by the right leaders(not Zelensky). Of course, the victims of forced conscription and their fellow people also have the right to revolt over it, and that may even be the right thing to do, depending on the situation.
>>543368382I think that the only reason they haven't forcefully drafted women until recently is because it is more risky, because simps are way more likely to fight back if a woman is getting busified than if they get busified themselves. Now that simps are starting to thin out, women have become vulnerable to busification too.
>>543363578Yes, but only jews.
>>543374102If i die, good.If you die, even better.
>>543363578Yes, because in democracies like the Ukraine and Russia, we are the government, so when the government does something, we're actually doing it to ourselves. In other words, they voted for it.
>>543363673my nation died 75 years ago
>>543363578It’s worse then rape if you think about it
>>543363785Ok then women should give birth to two kids with a soldier before he gets shipped out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWJh5Sj8FbY
>>543379846I voted for Trump THREE TIMES because I wanted to have a white man ONLY army kill shitskins. We need to kill shitskins snd get their land like we whites did in America. This is why I voted for Trump THREE TIMES, and Trump is gonna use ICE CHADS to accomplish this noble dream.0) FINISH THE WALL!!!1) Use ICE to do the draft, they're popular and any anti-ICE argument can be drowned with "70% of voters voted THREE TIMES for ICE to deport illegals including draft dodgers!"2) Pay spics Trump deported for each white they deport back to the US, radicalize them by showing them how happy and in-favor whites were of their suffering. Afterwards, apply the same model to everyone else.3) Pay pro-white celebs to drown white whinners with their screams about "whites are not invaders, we're pioneers and settlers"4) Kill anti-draft faggots by using Pretty Good memes :D
>>543373353Those who want to defend their country are free to do so. Much better than illegal immigration, where even if the natives want to take personal action to stop it, the government doesn't let them.
>>543363578NopeMay as well just shoot them on the spot.Seriously what's the point... The only way they come out smiling is if they go TOTAL STOCKHOLM SYNDROME think about it... Dragged against your will(basically rape) and forced to kill...or be killed...Yeah thats like you'd have go insane and love your rapist to survive... How'd you come back from that?If you don't even have the freedom to flee then your a slave period not a hypothetical Amazon warehouse slave no a fucking nigger getting lashed on a boat slave And the EU and US are VERY happy about this
>those who want to defend are free to do soya just make national defense an optional hobby while the invading army takes over, thats how a country survives an invasion.
