Italian police is confiscating pokemon cards
That's what happens if you don't follow the rules.
>>543365829Sounds like he was importing them for sale, at that amount of duties, had it been a personal collection that had been open and used/played with I doubt they would have put import duties on them.
>>543365829>6,900 euroIt would have been cheaper to mail them as 60 different parcels of 10 cards each.
>>543366730The 6900 euro was just the duties. This implies the cards were hundreds of thousands worth.
>>543366857>The 6900 euro was just the dutiesYeah I get that, the postage of mailing the cards in single envelopes with just one booster pack in each would have been less than that.What I said has nothing to do with the potential resale value of the cards and everything to do with the cheapest way to get them in country.
>>543366857Also in order for them to be 'hundreds of thousands worth' customs would have had to value them at 167 euro a booster.You can probably buy them for 5 euro at a hobbystore. A pokemon booster pack sells for less than $10 here. How the fuck are there 6,900 euro in import fees on three to four hundred euro worth of cards?
lol nerdsmeanwhile Chads carry diamonds in their pockets
>>543367192he paid duty, VAT, AND fines for not declaring items valued over the 430 euro limit. so the total doesn't say anything about the value until we know what the fine was. it's still madness how they can evaluate items at will. bit like taxing unrealised gains, eh.
>>543367192They were obviously not ordinary cards. They were rare individual collector's items.
>>543366730>>543366857You think the people at customs know the value of shit that gets imported. They have tables with approximate values and don't investigate further unless you do something egregious like snuggling 600 cards. If he declared them the customs guy would likely consult the table where it says it's $10 a pop and levied like $600 for the lot. My company imported a USB stick with a licensed programme that costs $120k. Got waived at the customs because the chart says a USB stick costs $10. Imported a bunch of GPUs (for animation/drawing) and CPUs (for server purposes) and had them valued at like $300 a pop despite being Quadro (or however they're called today) and Xenon shit worth tens of thousands of dollars altogether
>>543367447perhaps, but that's an unrealised gain. and the possible sales value can only be determined in an actual sale. can't believe this happened. as jewanon put it, diamonds will work wherever there are jews. that's basically everywhere, except for the deserts that should confine them.
>600 cardsThats about the size of a small book, nothing. Poor guy got his deck confiscated. They were probably even worthless because they are in Japanese.
>>543365829EU (pronounced jew you) has to some way get monies to destroy economy to become dependent of sub human nations and castrate White kids
>>543367580he should have prepared an alibi like a pokemon event somewhere, declared his 600 cards and exchanged whatever he wanted to sell with cheap cards. if that yields cash, more than 10k, there are options for that as well. poor chap. 7k to the jew, for nothing.
>>543367827numbers are billions so €1,2 trillion to make kids gay and retarded (like jews weren't already doing it)
based. total weebfaggot death.
>no no, I was carrying 600 pokemon cards for my own personal use
>>543367827Who knew Italians were Yu-Gi-Oh fans.
>>543365829import taxes are like 17% so that retard was trying to import over 40,000€ of shit in his funny suitcase
>>543366588>Sounds like he was importing them for saleProve it. 605 cards with a shitty picture on it doesn t worth 6900 euro. If i bring some tarot cards, how much should i pay ? Let the people play their kid games if they want, he was doing nothing bad. Should have imported fentanyl and push it on some kids.
>>543368363He wasn't hauling 6900€ worth of cards, that's just the amount of customs he was ought to payTry 40,000€ or pokemon products
>>543367421>>543368300This is the only way it could be so high.Some customs agent would have had to look up each of the 605 cards on some resale site, figured out the theoretical value of the cards if he sold all of them that very day, and taxed him based on that.Absurd.
>>543368300>go to airport>airport grades your shit for free>leave
The market value of this cards is not stable, not all cards sell and they shouldn't use variable online prices but just the value of buying packed cards
I have 99 pokemon cards and a bitch ain't one of them.
>>543368300msm reports vary from 20K to 27K. it's a felony starting from 820 undeclared fiat. so both fine and vat would result in some 7K payment. still weird how the italians decide on value as if it was legal tender.
They're tackling the real issues.
>>543368445>Try 40,000€ or pokemon productsNo cards worth 40,000€, it s a shitty kid game. Did nintendo sold him 650 cards for 40,000€ ? no ? then it just worth what greater fools are willing to pay for them. The state shouldn t put a price of mental illness trend, I have a garage full of Beanie Babies, can i pay my taxes with it, Hans ? They are worth millions euro.
I should declare my crazy crocos to the tax services, they are worth billions.
>>543368921The shitty kid game has a retail value and at that point you can't pretend you bought that much for personal use.And in case you don't know, there's currently a huge market for scalping said shitty kids game, it doesn't matter what you think about it
>>543365829This is why you shove your pokemon cards up your ass when traveling
>>543368633You think he bought graded cards in Japan and not as many sealed boxes as he could get his hands on? I don't know why people sympathize with scalpers now
>>543365829don't care, pokemon card scalpers are nigger tier
>>543369156retail is hardly 35-50 per card, or is it? what would be the point of importing them then. the question here is, can customs evaluate undeclared items via their own rules, when they are collectables. and yes, in italy they can.
meanwhileits a humiliation ritual they take the man child's last joy away as you can watch your women raped in full delightits happening real time
>>543369156>has a retail value My crazy crocos too, and the retail value of the cards is : 33 euro for 150 cards. Even less because they aren t brand new in a box and not sold by a retailer, so maybe 1 euro for 1000 cards, if you recycle paper.https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Pokemon-Card-Expansion-Storm-Emerald/dp/B0GP928YDZ?crid=76A5KK70J85L&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3ExXxcJgpBtgWs7d-mELtztVS7gzgQpugj8zDaoSWxdH6zoAE_EJlfdU6qVrH5MFdMrOK3eK4JLcDg9D1HmpTX2sMfnNPUqunNS1UcAAFCr8c2n0_fcs4qfsRZApTmwIACDT1mToYoCMFLofxvh4rmfWivH5Um4ncrVgNlitR5fwXB-Cx_KMmnsOfn76LgqTl61IaY83tHZ8f54WoNdR1Hexn3REP1lBY-yBmadBSMvvcFsQOjnosRh9WbIs1uLA2UMA-Rb91xpKxWeNiHqsh-AVzZk_1w1HzTQqPqltFi8.Mnfoqrf3RVoHM2Fx7ddSynWEyVTv0ABVhaEPAPhjQyY&dib_tag=se&keywords=pokemon+card&qid=1790521353&sprefix=pokemon+car%2Caps%2C224&sr=8-4
>>543365829pretty sure you're allowed to being 10k into any euro country without declaring it.
>>543369245>sealed boxesDoes it even matter? I hate to say back in the day but when yugioh and pokemon was first popular I remember that the Japanese versions weren't worth shit outside of Japan.
>>543369561careful. 10K you need to declare. not 9.99K, but when they find these, your on a list.
>>543365829SCALPERS BE SCALPIN
Pay up cucks, you MUST pay the cuckduty
The gobberment always gets their cut if they smell money.but he must've been too autistic to just look normal and bullshit>those pokey-mon cards? idk my kid asked me to buy them when I was in japan. i dunno the yen is worth today now but it was like 50 euros in real people money. cheaper than buying him a video game!
>>543365889>>543365829>things are so bad customs agents and smugglers are tracking down TCG marketsFiat BTFO
>>543369593The collector scene has changed.Fucking Chinese cards are blowing up because some tik tok influencers are making videos about them.
>>543369156>a month of labor>retail valueIdk anon, back in 2000 this would have been ~1000 dollars of value. Idk what collections were worth 1000 dollars back in 2000, because I was a kid, but seems more like airline security just saw an easy theft.
>>543369964thousand ways of making this a non-nuisance outcome, though they also say not to wake sleeping dogs. he opted for being a smuggler. it's a risk with an unforeseeable price.
>>543368921The most expensive rare pokemon cards go for hundreds of thousands. Graded cards can easily be worth hundreds. The market for them is huge.
>>543367580Why the fuck should you need to pay an import cost for anything when you already paid for a plane ticket worth an entire human being in weight? It's literally cardboard.
>>543368049Do you not know what a fucking binder is?
>>543371244how dare you bring items made in another country into your own country the wrong way. you have to do it by container ship and pay thousands in good boy fees to be allowed to bypass our own manufacturing
>>543369593That's still true to this day, all down to simple supply and demand. And English speakers demand Pokemon shit even more than the literal Japanese do.
>>543365829Good, fuck scalpers
Did you chuds know that lately niggers have been stealing pokemon cards from stores in bulk? Because they have decent resale value and there is no way to trace their origin. This guy was obviously a seller/scalper and he had thousands or tens of thousands worth of ranked cards. These were not a bunch of random booster packs.
>>543365829>Pokemon cards are now high value contraband now.Grim reality we all live in
>>543371815>you should have to pay taxes on the theoretical current market value of your assetsFuck that unrealized gains nonsense.
>>543372106Then go ahead and run for congress and change the law. Every single country in the world has import taxes for items over a certain value. You probably didn't even know that you have to declare any cash or valuables over $10k when entering the US, since you most likely have never had a passport.
>>543371991https://www.cardmarket.com/en/PokemonQuite literally.
>>543365829>italian police>plural>is>not areSubhuman. Face the wall.
>>543372265>Then go ahead and run for congress and change the law.I don't have to because taxing unrealized gains isn't legal in the US. Moron.
>>543372623I guess you missed the part about declaring valuables when entering the US. Now you have obviously never traveled or had a passport, but if you tried to come back from Japan with a load of rare pokemon cards worth tens of thousands, then yes you will get in legal trouble if you do not declare them. Go ahead and try it and post the video of you getting beaten up when you go all sovcit muh rights.
>>543365829We had a robbery in Canada involving Pokémon cards two days ago
>>543372781>moving the goalposts
>>543372881Yes you are. You went all armchair lawyer and then realized that you were wrong to begin with. You first claimed that it is legal to bring an unlimited amount of valuables over the border without needing to declare it.
>>543373134>ou first claimed that it is legal to bring an unlimited amount of valuables over the border without needing to declare it.I would love for you to reply to the post where I said such a thing.
>>543372623>import goods to the US>"well I haven't sold them yet, so you can't tax them"???
>>543373883Yes.We do not tax unrealized gains here, any import valuation should have been at retail value.
>>543365829>The unpaid duties.Wtf does that mean?You buy pokemon cards in Tokyo and the EU wants a cut of the money?
>>543374009Also if he sold them wouldnt he have to pay tax on that gain anyway so charging for the import is kinda taxing the same item twice.
>>543374137You bring in tens of thousands worth of goods that you intend to sell, yes any country wants you to pay tax on it.
>>543372623Tell me exactly what you think the 800$ duty free allowance when returning to the United States, and what you think happens when you go over that limit
>>543374619You would have to pay tax when you sell them. Seems like a double tax to me.
>>543374667Go to any store that sells something imported. Do you or the shop pay tax when you buy it? No, it is included in the price because the shop paid the import tax already.
>>543374646Tell me how $360 worth of cards is more than $800.
>>543374772You both pay it.You pay VATThey pay income tax
>>543368921>>543369056the French is correct
>>543373744>>543374815Waaaaaaaaaaiting...
>>543374815You said in >>543372106 that no import taxes should be paid because they aren't sold yet.Also OP is a faggot who didn't post a link but a quick search reveals the pokemon cards had a value of 27k euros. That is far beyond a simple card pack or two.
>>543375409you're such a cuck is not worth it you'll find a way to justify being a cuck anyways but then again You're not Jewish you're an ai bot or a literal alien demon
I wish I still had my Street Sharks watch.
TOTAL SCALPER DEATH
>>543375409>You said in >>543372106 (You) that no import taxes should be paidNo, I said 'fuck that unrealized gains nonsense'.There were 605 cards.They were worth $360 USD.That is the amount he should have to worry about.You are a moron.Thank you for playing and proving it.
>>543375542They were worth 27k, not 360. Where did you get that number from? Your ass?
>>543369056Those are some really loco cracos bros.
>>543375622>Where did you get that number from? Your ass?4 Abyss Eye booster boxes, the new hotness in collecting, 600 cards, costs $360 USD.Just because some TSA agent says he might be able to resell them aftermarket for more doesn't change the current retail value.I could in theory sell my Mazda Miata for $30K.Does that mean the blue book value of the car is $30K?
>>543375777You could have just said "yes, I pulled that number out of my ass".
>>543375839>the retail value of the cards is a number pulled out of my assYou are a moron indeed.Good luck in life.
>>543375886Did you see the cards in question yourself? Do you know if they were simple booster boxes or rare rated card? No? Then yes, you pulled that number out of your ass.
>>543368300>go to mtg tournament>deck worth tens of thousands of dollars>bought decades ago>no intent to sell>EU thinks its normal to throw your ass in jail and fine you unrealized capital gainsDon't go after normal people, the correct policy is to:>revoke cardmaker copyright>or force cardmaker to print more>go after cardmaker market manipulation
>>543375886The medic guy is right, booster packs are an entirely different item from individual cards. There's no official price on individual cards and equating it to 1/N of the prices of the booster price is just incorrect.
>>543374772How often does the store itself fly internationally, pay their own flights to and from the country, and pick up the good themselves?this is retarded EU overreach, and you are a faggot cuck
>>543368049>mama mia, 600 cards, that's an entire binder's worth
Ok to be fair it does look like these were certified individual collector's cards
Godda Blessa La Italiana Peepoli Gratzi Meatballa
>>543365829Customs should have to buy the cards if they are going to set the value of collectibles. Normal retail stuff is fine, but collectibles are notorious for being wildly valued compared to what you can actually sell them for. This is a great example of why unrealized gains is such a fallacy.
>>543378751It's at least 2 binders worth. How many binders do you take with you on vacation, and why? Personally I bring 0 binders.
