'Reactionary', because it will revert the Enlightenment and be its antithesis.Current society (post-French Revolution faustian):>individuals of any race / gender / religion are deemed equal in relation to one another, and distinct in relation to wealth (havers x have-not)>ideology reigns supreme, it matters more that something is consistent to the program than something being true>the program being progressive liberal democracy, and it does not allow criticism of its ideological framework;>the faustian bargain is that we sell God (tradition, meaning, community and happiness) for money (growing material wealth)All of these tenants are collapsing. We see ever more authoritarian "democracies" engage in censorship, expand their valueset to everything (from religion to inconsequential hobbies), and distinction of peoples are weaponized to justify more censorship by the powers thereby (coercion to freedom).This is clearly a society that has reached its logical conclusion, because so much has been sacrificed, and what is there in exchange? - Nothing, young people own less property than those in literal communist countries, and they have no hope of ever achieving those. We sold God for money, and the check never came in the mail.Confucian societies outperformed Enlightenment societies, and proved you don't need drag story times and Disney girlbosses to have property rights, sewage and technological progress. We sold God to snake oil sellers. They kept theirs, and they are fine.The question I ask is: how / where will this regime end, and how will the future look like?
>>543394663>WHERE WILL THIS REGIME END?My main candidate is the United Kingdom. Nowhere on Earth the ideology has become so tyrannical, so much poverty has been delivered in exchange of so many liberties, and so much blindsight has been demanded of young people. British people are oppressed from the moment they survive abortion to the moment they decide to take their own lives.Britain has done to itself what indian nationalists claim they did to India: they've ruined absolutely EVERYTHING.The United Kingdom was the birthplace of the Enlightenment, and it is fitting that its burial will happen there.>HOW WILL THIS REGIME END?Look to the Easter Uprising, because the oppression of the irish during WW1 is similar to the oppression of the british. All it took for Ireland to break away, was for a generation of militarily trained young blokes to exist. Inevitably, Britain will commit the mistake of doing a draft. It will succeed: the drafted will take up arms and begin to threaten the regime itself. The British police barely contains civilians, they would and will be crushed by militarily trained and organized youths.And these youths will be european men of traditional admixture. And their revolution will have both pro-young, pro-male and pro-nationalist attitudes.The closest thing to Karl Marx's industrial society proletarian revolution will be, ironically, done by unemployed incels with nothing to lose.
>>543394663>>543394984>HOW WILL THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE?Here, we imagine the type of society that a pro-male, pro-youth and pro-nationalist movement will create.>women will be absolutely crushedWomen will be deemed the single greatest responsible demographic for the decline of the Enlightenment, and theirs will be the greatest suffering. Women won't simply lose the right to vote (which all will lose), they will lose the right to work without a license. Companies seen hiring unlicensed women will suffer the scrutiny of companies hiring illegals. Welfare will outright targer and exclude single mothers from all benefits. Abortions, if preserved, will be punished to draconian measures, such as sterilization or even addressed like murder.Older, unmarried women will be treated like the old and infirm under Mao: useless drags on society.In the coming decades, families will even look down on having daughters, since they won't be allowed to provide. Economic dependence of women will fix marriage and birth rates, as well as nominal salaries.>immigrants are expelled"Immigrants" in modern Europe are glorified tourists. They are fresh off the airplane, most weren't even there in 2016. Europe treats them like they are as unmovable as mountains, but they are not. And they are not dumb. Mass self-deportations will happen, and deportations will be delivered when those fail. Plenty of countries in Africa and Asia will take their people back in exchange of money.Europe will think back on its multicultural nonsense like a delirium, like we think of tulipmania or anabaptism, or other such fads that ended quickly devouring itself.>Israel will thrive, jews will notJews are harder to spot and punish. They can convert, move out, and all can apply for double-citizenship in Israel. This is what will happen: Israel will fulfill its role as the home of jewish people. But it won't be because Israel is safe, but because jews won't have anywhere better to go.
>>543394663hmmm... Nyo
>>543394663>where will this regime end
>>543396316Yelp, I don't think people care about any of this. This is a very uneducated board that doesn't like discussing anything.Sad. I regret the time wasted thinking about all this.
>>543396548Sometimes, anon, people just don't have anything to say to a well thought post. Sunday, after all.
>>543394663>individuals of any race / gender / religion are deemed equal in relation to one anotherfalse premise, does not reflect lived experience
>>543396894That is why it fails and brings society apart.
>>543394663AND SUDDENLY FOR REASONS NOT WELL UNDERSTOOD BY THE NORMIES ANYWAY ALL HELL BROKE LOOOOOOOOOOSE......
>>543394663Bump for effort. The biggest problem with the UK is that we genuinely have too many suicidal morons who cannot be reasoned with at all. They are who Bezmenov warned of.
>>543396548It's more like this >>543396730, I am exhausted
>>543394663>untermenschen
>>543394663>>543398449>>543398241>reactionary revolution is inevitable99% of all westerners masked and vaxxed for a virus that didn't even exist like lobotomised cattlesperm has plummeted 60% (SIXTY) in the last 50 years aloneTestosterone levels are now <500 ng/dL, that's less than a 90 YEAR OLD GERIATRICAnyone who lives in a city is a fucking barely sentient cattle moronAnyone who masked or vaxxed isn't even sentient but a castrated animalYou LITERALLY won't do shit
>>543394984>>543398241>hurrrr when will it end>durrrrrrr how will it endYou'll be masturbating to pornography in your bedroom playing video games, same as you ever wereAnd when the boomercide happens, which it will, the new society that had been crafted our these decades will continue on without you, as you impotently and flaccidly cry in your room inbetween ordering uber eats and playing mediocre corporate slop you call "video games"
>>543398494fuck off chang
>>543395515We tried to give these foids a chance, they rejected it.
>>543398241>>543398494>>543398589It is a matter of either rebellion or extinction, anon.It is simple.The Enlightenment is killing men.Either people do shit, or they die.
>>543398892I pity what awaits women more than anyone. Because there are many decent women, but they were completely incapable to self-regulate, even when it comes to murder. The punishment delivered to women won't be remedial, it will be punitive. It will be in the service of vengeance.
>>543394663>>543394984>>543395515I've thought about these things and came to many of these conclusions. I don't know if the UK will actually go to war and conscript. But if they do, it will be the beginning of the end of the liberal regime. If you push men to fight and to put their neck on the line, into a meat grinder, at that point you may as well actually fight for what you actually believe. Many men will walk into the war like zombies, obeying. Many wont. And it would be significant enough to start the ball rolling and morph into a revolution. Mass disobedience would build. The UK government would lose legitimacy, especially as it turns on it's own people who organise and resistThe glow nigs would lose control of the narrative when the blood of British people is spilt on British streets. The normisphere would flipThis is all just speculation in the end, but history shows. I'm in ulster myself. They wouldn't dare conscript us. Plenty enough Goyalists will jump at the opportunity to defend their greatest ally or do their duty out in Ukraine, and the ethnic Irish being forced into the British Army would cause the troubles 2.0 on it's own. They knew better not to draft Irish people for a while. But they will get a shock if they try to do that with white British men with any red blood in them
good thread
>>543399913The paradox of the modern draft is that there is barely anyone draftable, but you can't find the manpower without a draft. Wars need to be fought, but there is no one wanting to fight them.It has to be the UK. It is the weakest link of the West, the most authoritarian society and the one with the least to show for it.I agree with you of what makes people actually fight for what they believe in, and I sincerely think those who go all-in on 'nothing ever happens' do not truly understand how irredeemably fucked the current state of affairs is.The Belfast beheading proved how weak the UK truly is, that a handful of hooligans were enough to close down an entire city with a few fires. Do that in 4 other british cities, and the entire country gets gridlocked.
Frankly, if we were still the /pol/ of 2012, we'd have a /pol/ taskforce like Ron Paul 2012.This taskforce would be entirely dedicated to incite a civil war in the United Kingdom.The state is doing its part to provoke this war, now all that's left is for the british. I can't think of a better place to start.France does not suck off its foreign invaders nearly as much, Germany is an uphill fight against WW2 histeria, Belgium is a non-country, Netherlands is too rich, Italy is too old.But the UK? It is perfect. Nowhere else has this civilization reached its logical conclusion as the former global hegemon.
>>543400446>The Belfast beheading proved how weak the UK truly is, that a handful of hooligans were enough to close down an entire city with a few fires. Do that in 4 other british cities, and the entire country gets gridlockedThe thing about that is, leftists from other countries are all of a sudden calling that "pogroms" now that they are doing it to their immigrant pets. But it is nothing new. They've been doing that for a long time. They do it to Irish catholics still. It is run of the mill. The PSNI are as prepared and as experienced as they could ever be, because it is the environment they exist in. If something happened on a much broader scale, not just a few streets but in multiple cities in N,I., they would not be able to manage that. They might have other police forces come in from britain to help, or even send in the army. But at that point it can only escalate things. Feds know that our societies are dangling on a string over the pit of mass violence. It only takes an event for things to spiral in these conditions. That's why they are so paranoid and tyrannical about policing your speech. But they don't seem to understand in full the shape and scale of the resentment that has built up and might actually be considering pushing people into a corner with conscription. That is the thing with censorship. You are not going to know the full scale of your potential enemy because people watch what they say. And on that note >>543401017 don't fedpost when speaking about the UK. We are just speculating. No one wants this or advocates for it
>>543401214Sorry. I don't want to fedpost, but I really need this society to end. And we need someone to show us the way. I remember reading books on the Easter Uprising, on Earl Grey, the 1832 chaos, the English Civil War, and I knew you guys would show up once again to show us how it is done.Beautifully said, though. I didn't reflect this much. Truly, if Belfast was the top of the class and it was such a mess, I can't imagine what would have happened in Edimburgh or York. Or Manchester or Rottenham.At this point I'm out of my knowledge. All I have are abundant information and patterns. What I wanted is to know how it is on the street for the UK (which you are gently providing to me), of which you are confirming my worst (best) suspicions.I want to see the revolution in the UK. Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, those examples are too particular of their own issues and religious strifes, but the UK is 101% a modern Enlightenment society - almost the best that it has to offer.I sleep glad that I know deep in my heart the powderkeg of Britain will explode, I just hope that the censorship is very effective, and the powers thereby genuinely think that if they train and arm young british men, they'll want to die for the London parliament, rather than die setting fire on it.Thanks for contributing, anon. Have some beautiful art.
bump for thoughtful posts. maybe one day something will happen, instead of never
I believe that a bunch of guys being young, single and with nothin to lose is making a big difference compared to other times.If it really happens, IT Will be bloody and brutal.Everything depends on the level of organization, I Learned that in my commie phase.
>>543394663Bump, you deserve more attention.
>>543401629This was a good thread bro.
>>543395515I could see that happening but I can also see modern societies reaching a milk-toast middle ground that doesn't really solve any problems but are just slightly better than what we have now.We know what it's like to live in shit and be used to it more than anyone, fellow huebro.
>>543403785>I believe that a bunch of guys being young, single and with nothin to lose is making a big difference compared to other timesThis is the powderkeg.Yesterday, there was a thread here. Some sincere anon asking why there were so many things in common between extreme right and extreme left.Turns out it was the fact that they are both young and have nothing to lose. It is two sick people suffering from a similar illnesses, but believing in two different treatments.We all got to agree that the necessary and inevitable end will be an aggressive reactionary revolution. I think the UK will probably serve as a good test ground, for reasons explained in this thread.
Enlightenment. lmaoPlease anon... there is only bricks that fir now on this level of the tower or don't. Enlightenment my ASS.
>>543394663Intriguing thread but what makes you think these authoritarian democracies will actually end? The blackpill view is that democracy itself provides the perfect outlet for frustration. As our society progressively turns to shit, people still just blame the "bad party" and turn to the "good party" at every election instead of blaming the system itself.>Confucian societies outperformed Enlightenment societiesObviously China is currently humiliating the West in every way imaginable but I don't see that directly causing regime change here. With every additional humiliation, Western voters will just throw out bad party number 5 and elect good party number 6.
>>543406308Will the Us implode? Will the EU step in if the UK goes down? Will the vax render all of this futile?How do you imbue meaning and faith into a people who have been raised as interchangeable economic units? Will the tech oligarchy step in to fill the vacuum?
>>543406208>We know what it's like to live in shit and be used to it more than anyone, fellow huebroWe are slaves, anon. It could never be any different. The brazilian is servile. Our country is founded on patrimonialism, around the big house of the masters, and the rest of society are either the master's servants, the master public worker son, or those that exchange favors with the master. Our regime is hardly a democracy, even. Our "Enlightenment" is a travesty, our progressive values come straight from US social media and streaming services, and the progressivism that we had before (which was a lot) was a product of lascivious nature of the brazilian.We are not a faustian civilization at all. Portugal is, we are not. Nothing here gets done. Nobody genuinely cares about anything. Our corrupt don't renounce. Our people don't feel guilty, nor they care for greater pursuits. And it is fine, frankly. Brazil has its many perks, but social ascension and freedom are not among them, and to be brazilian is to live in fear of those in power all the time.I guess we are just a weirdly mystical civilization, that has given up from trying to bring God's heaven to this Earth, accepted the nature that life is suffering, and taken the remedy (sex) to be good enough.Brazil is the type of country that genuinely will never change. These other countries I mentioned are Western Civilization. We are closer to being our own thing, and if something is to happen here, it'll be so particular to us that they'll hardly learn anything.
>>543406470>The blackpill view is that democracy itself provides the perfect outlet for frustrationThat is the ideal of democracy, anon. That your opponents will distribute leaflets instead of guns. But democracy fails when the principle of equal chance (any person / movement stands equal chance of winning the election provided they get the majority vote) begins to fail. Suddenly, only programs approved by the media or interest groups get a fair chance; primary candidates with overwhelming support mysteriously lose, and what ultimately prevails are parties which are pretty much the same political movement with two heads.We've seen this happen. Parties like Reform UK and AfD suffer mediatic prosecution and are not even allowed to compete equally. Nationalist posts in social media are censored. The police goes out of its way to protect the governist factions, even as they barely scrape by 20% approval. That is the reality of the UK. In Germany, they'll go as far as to banish the AfD, possibly. In the UK, you can't express.The USA hasn't reached the point of absolute political cynicism yet, where people genuinely discover that voting does not matter. The UK has, and I hope Reform UK gets outright banned, as to stop them from turning them into a trumpian mileiesque false opposition option.
>>543406800>Brazil has its many perksDoes it? It's not as bad as Africa, I guess, but it's a mixture of 3rd world poverty and corruption and 1st world moral degeneration.
>>543406591>How do you imbue meaning and faith into a people who have been raised as interchangeable economic units?Honestly I think this is the easiest part. Humans desperately long for some kind of purpose or to be part of something bigger. Historically that was either religion, or state rivalry/nationalism. But really anything would work. Look at how people fall over themselves in support of something like space exploration, even otherwise jaded atheist types. Part of the problem with enlightenment liberalism is *precisely* that governments have abandoned the responsibility to work towards a greater purpose. They devote 100% of their energy at towards enforcing growth and tolerance at the point of a sword with no other goal or objective. I truly believe that as soon as a state unveils a real, existential purpose - whether that be traditional or futuristic - people will jump at the opportunity. The problem is, no Western state can do that right now because the whole point of liberal democracy is to avoid such a higher purpose. TLDR if a revolutionary government ever is created and leads, the people will follow.>Will the vax render all of this futile?I know this gets memed a lot but with every passing year I am less and less convinced it will have devastating consequences. It seems like it just increases vaxxers risk of heart attack by 5-10% or so, so still bad but not anywhere close to an existential problem. There's just no evidence of anything else.
>>543394984>The United Kingdom was the birthplace of the Enlightenmentnah was italy
>>543406591>How do you imbue meaning and faith into a people who have been raised as interchangeable economic units?Unless you realize this, you can't. At one point, you need to turn the table upside down and declare that you deserve your own country more than the sudanese beheader fresh off the airplane. We were raised with this Enlightenment idea that all humans are the same, should be treated the same and are entitled to the same. That is obviously the dumbest lie in the history of this planet.Human beings are all unalike each other, born to families / religions / cultures / races to which they are tied by mutual loyalties. That is, individuals are tribal, and only the atomized stupid West even thinks otherwise.Equality is a statement so obviously false and so obviously catastrophic that I cannot believe that its diffusion among peoples was not an outright criminal campaign of the mind.The destiny of the USA is too complicated and circumstantial. If the EU will act, that is also circumstantial.
>>543406982>The UK has, and I hope Reform UK gets outright banned, as to stop them from turning them into a trumpian mileiesque false opposition option.Yeah, I agree with this. Opposition parties lay the groundwork, the soft onboarding so to speak, of people who might be revolutionaries. But if allowed to take power they inevitably accomplish nothing then discredit themselves because the entire point of liberalism is to ensure any impulse towards a greater good is framed as coercion and thus nothing *can* be accomplished. But then my question for you is: what if Reform ISN'T banned? Or Afd? And then they just become exactly what we'd both predict, Trumpesque parodies? That's what makes democracy so resilient and evil, people will blame the party and go back to the lying centrists.It feels like your whole proposal is good, but reliant on the system overplaying its hand. I'm not so sure it will, especially seeing how ineffective MAGA was as a threat in the US.
>>543407246You can't lie to people forever, I believe.If AfD and Reform are elected and don't deliver the expulsions (thus proving politics is fake and democracy is a waste of time), they will go the way of Trumpism, with Trump barely even reaching 30% of approval anymore.I believe people are not that dumb, anon. Europeans can see in their daily lives that they cannot go out during the dark anymore. They see the two-tier police. They see the useless politicians. They see that they can't afford anything.If this continues, it is death we are talking about. Life will cease to be worth it, if it is not, already. Revolution requires this dangerous mixture of desperation in what it is and hope for what could be. That is what made the Bangladeshi seize the government and order to hang the prime minister, her team and all the indians and women who she benefitted at the expense of the bangladeshi natives.The way I see it, either the West fights back or dies. Either they burn Belfast over a beheading, or the beheadings continue. Either they teach women and foreigners to fear for their lives, or they accept death.Death is a possibility. People in the West are a million times more medicated than in the East. You can drug an entire population into abject poverty. That is how the homeless populations continue to exist.But I am not so pessimistic. Either they sterilize you all through psychiatric medicines, or they'll be taken down. All their surveillance tech won't save them, and will only make them more deluded in their control.
>>543394663Gibberish commie cope, move to Beijing and start making tiktoks about "the real China the Western media won't show you!!1" and see if it works out for you.>individuals of any race / gender / religion are deemed equal in relation to one another, and distinct in relation to wealth (havers x have-not)It's equality before the law not equality in everything.>ideology reigns supreme, it matters more that something is consistent to the program than something being trueLiterally describing the opposite, ie you're describing communism, nazism etc>the program being progressive liberal democracy, and it does not allow criticism of its ideological framework;You're posting on a site explicitly hosted and allowed by liberal democracy, whereas the thing you're shilling for, namely NRx, explicitly forbids criticism because it's a monarchy, kek>the faustian bargain is that we sell God (tradition, meaning, community and happiness) for money (growing material wealth)Then why does only liberal democracy explicitly allow, tolerate and even protect religion and religious plurality? Whereas communism/nazism either prohibit religion or subsume it into a cult of state worship, which NRx would do also.>muh monarchical technocratic communism is teh future!moldbug shitters are a disgrace to humanity, literally everyone can see it's nothing but a thinly veiled power grab by delusional nepo tech "elites" who have contributed nothing to humanity but enshittify and turn everything into advertizing revenue stream driven economics because they have no ideas except monetize the fact they won the being born in the best time in history to get rich off of destroying humanity by having learned HTML and a bit of Java and now decided that's not enough and want to be actual monarchical nobility to boot>these are the people calling you shallow, lazy, and amoral>literally want to be elevated above the law>gee I wonder why that is
Reactionaries and identitarians are french, Austrian, swiss oligarch families financing alt right, neo fascists and right wing European political parties. Corruption, human trafficking, prostitution of minors. The list is long. They are organizing everything in the background in Europe. They are the smart ones of the right. They know how to lie and deceive and to fake political correctness and by now even the most retarded members of the right got the memo. Shut up and let the smart ones do the "talking". Slowly subverting the system from within.
>>543394663>ConfucianAlso incidentally communist.
>>543407552Simply kill the Jews.It really is that easy.
>>543407776You may be right but if so that's fantastic news. All revolutions are launched by elites (or factions within the elite) as they are by definition the only group with institutional power. The democratic lie that "the people," the lower and working classes, have some kind of independent thought or agency is one of the most hilariously transparent lies of liberalism yet they are fed so much propaganda that they actually believe it - thus recursively proving the point.If you are correct and there are factions of the European elite working to corrupt, subvert, and destabilize the current democratic system, then that gives me a glimmer of hope that one day alternative paths may re-emerge and the ever deeper societal rot my (in some places) be reversed.
>>543407759We all know about people being arrested for social media posts in Europe, anon. The EU is literally trying to turn digital passports into law and the UK is already doing so.We also know you're being systematically replaced by a foreign race and religion, while you yourselves are encouraged to not notice, be atheists and not reproduce.And this site only exists because the founding fathers of America created the First Amendment. Otherwise America would be as censored as Europe (and we know American leftists wish they could get rid of it.)So yeah, I think OP has a point and you're in denial.
>>543394663You are assraping reality.Liberal democracies are only 27 out of 280 countries. It's the only places where you can talk freely. And they all are ruled by conservatives who want to restrict the freedom of speech and other freedoms. To call these democracies liberal is very far fetched. Compared to the 70ies yea maybe but there is still a lot of work to do. Especially the sexual liberation of both men and women.These shenanigans about how liberal democracies are worse than communist or fascist totalitarian dictatorships are absolutely delusional. It serves only one purpose, deceiving the workers by creating a false itochomy and an enemy to blame to maintain power, status and wealth. And that's the only purpose of the existence of reactionism and identitarianism period
>>543408059>All revolutions are launched by elitesThat's not true. Most revolutions are launched from below, borne from popular discontent.They need cooperation from parts of elite to succeed (and fail if elites remain in an united front), but that's a different matter entirely, and a very different scenario. Elite infighting just leads to elites culling each other, which is also a good thing, but different from a revolution.
>>543394663Gothic German Revolution
>>543407552>>543394663I fully believe these posts weren't made by a human.>hey claude, make me a joke version of what the populist right believe in
>>543398494It is inevitable that most city people will die.We will end up with sone type of maoist or pol pot type of thing
>>543406591The vax marks the beginning of Ragnarok.The jews are going all in for total goyim death.I dont like jews but the world does have to be depopulated there are too many people
When the Bavarian miners created their own currency, occupied the mines and defended them against kaisers army. Creating free state of Bavaria lasting 3 years. Those were the good times. Sadly the anarchist history is all censored, indexed and scraped from the history books.Once the anarchists were fighting alongside Abraham Lincoln and now they call them terrorists. What a perversion of common sense
>>543408190China has more free speech than the west.You can criticize jews there.Here you can criticize Xi but you cant criticize jews
>>543408556>18481488
>>543408133>We all know about people being arrested for social media posts in Europe, anon. The EU is literally trying to turn digital passports into law and the UK is already doing so.??? What does the UK being a Fabian experiment and Germany being a Russian-subverted humiliation ritual have to do with actual Europe?Actual Europe has more free speech than the United States and you can literally compare the lists of banned books. Granted the US in some states may have successfully nudged the Overton window in favor of commies and nazis when it comes to allowing people to say stupid shit and do Hitler salutes and whatnot, but when it comes to actual freedom to think and publish without being prosecuted over it I think you'll find Europe is far ahead on freedom of speech and expression. You can now be prosecuted in the US even for just saying mean things about Trump much less any serious dissent.>We also know you're being systematically replaced by a foreign race and religion, while you yourselves are encouraged to not notice, be atheists and not reproduce>And this site only exists because the founding fathers of America created the First Amendment. Otherwise America would be as censored as Europe (and we know American leftists wish they could get rid of it.)>So yeah, I think OP has a point and you're in denial.This coming from Brazil by the way is hilarious, you have literally commie judges caught being bribed by private interests to persecute people for posting their opinions, and that was under a right-wing government, and now you're ruled by a literal socialist communist Sino-Russian agent.If the First Amendment is so great and strong, then why is the United States ranked 64th in press freedom, huh, Silicon Valley shill?https://rsf.org/en/index?year=2026
>>543408367I dont care personally if I live in oriental communist dictatorship orAmerica the liberal democracyBecause both situations I am ruled by a different race in America we are ruled by nonWhites.I would rather be ruled by Chinese, they dont hate White people for last 2000 years like jews do.
>>543408613>Actual Europe has more free speech than the United States and you can literally compare the lists of banned books. Granted the US in some states may have successfully nudged the Overton window in favor of commies and nazis when it comes to allowing people to say stupid shit and do Hitler salutes and whatnot, but when it comes to actual freedom to think and publish without being prosecuted over it I think you'll find Europe is far ahead on freedom of speech and expression. You can now be prosecuted in the US even for just saying mean things about Trump much less any serious dissent.True.In America if you say things jews or blacks don't like, they own all the courts and judges and police.They can use illegal methods to torture you.This is why it does not matter what our system of government is called whether a democracy or not. We are ruled by nonWhites, so we live in an african tier country.
America is the same thing as South africa or Zambia or Zimbabwe or Angola
>>543401017britfags are perfectly content just singing "heyyy tommy tommy tommy tommy tommy tommy robinson" like it's some profound and uniting chant that will deliver any change for their country. they're all swine, it's either cheering for their top-goy or cheering for their top goy-team. they're done for. that doesn't mean i think you're wrong, i just think the hand of who's in power will come down on them and all the third worlders who will least suspect it when it finally happens. read chapter 12 of 'that hideous strength', it's very enlightening on this point.
>>543408648Lol you live in Cambodia?Try to open your mouth there or make a Twitter post about anything hun sen or his family or friends I dare you
>>543408752There is no saving the brits
>>543408613The entire EU is a humiliation ritual when it comes to censorship, Netherbro. The EU literally forces social media services to censor anti-EU content.And lets not forget you literally get arrested for showing any doubts about the holohoax or saying anything about the Jews.>press freedomThe press are just private companies defending what benefits themselves.What matters is if the people have the freedom to speak freely, which they do more in America than in the EU or, as you correctly stated, Brazil.
>>543394663250 year cycle that started with the French revolution is nearing its final decade
>>543408367>Most revolutions are launched from below, borne from popular discontent.No successful revolution has ever been launched from below, even once, in the whole span of recorded history. Again, this is because the working classes always lack the institutional or cognitive power to enact change. That is part of the definition of their class. It could be argued that certain highly disorganized uprisings, the Jacquerie being the most prominent example I can think of, arose primarily from the bottom (although even the Jacquerie had some limited elite support). What you'll notice about these sort of informal peasant-type revolts, though, is that they are always crushed completely unless they originated primarily in an elite faction.I recommend de Jouvenal if you want a deep dive on this subject, the organization of power and sovereignty, and a deconstruction of liberal myths (like "popular sovereignty," an oxymoron) surrounding these topics. He's a truly brilliant political philosopher.
>>543408789America is the same thing as China or Cambodia. Or a failed african state.The difference is that jews are the ruling class rather than communist party members,Judaism and jewish people in america are the CCP of China.Just cause people have been allowed to speak on twitter sbout jews, does not mean that they have not prepared 50 drones to be headed to our heads when they decide to shut the iron curtain
also want to say OP's point about women is right on the nose. women have no idea what's coming for them. charls carroll also predicts this, women will become an endangered species with this all snaps back out of the enlightenment delusion OP is describing. we all know that coddling women and their opinions and feelings are what allowed foreign invaders to come into our countries, to soften our resolve and become 'motherly' toward every rapeman arriving from the jungle and desert. it is going to be extremely brutal.
>>543408847>>543408367Middle class and disaffected upper class started every successful revolution.
>>543408828This.
>>543408889I dont think many people will be killing women but with all the refugees there will be lots of capturing of women going on. Different clans will be taking as many women as possible and locking them in cages. At least right after SHTF
>>543408915Yawn. Always the same predictable vomit slop coming from the right since a decade. Like a record on repeat.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buenaventura_Durruti
It will be like Fallout New Vegas with Caesars Legion.Its funny in 2026 that Fallout is a lot of peoples dream life in America.The collapse is a lot better than being unable to afford to buy things.
OP here.I am just so happy to see that a serious thread for once is still online and getting discussion.Maybe people still care about politics.
>>543409084I don't like what british people did to Germans so I support the breakup of the UK. I want Germany to rise again if possible. Removing the old enemies from the chessboard is a good thing for Germany, now the last 2 that have to go down are russia and israel
>>543409084You fucking derailed it with your Putin bricks propaganda tier political background and education.Your propaganda boy slop has been called out now fuck off try another thread
>>543409060What I really want for America is the Pol Pot way. It may seem inhumane but there are a lot of scum in america. And the nerds have to be kicked out of power.
>>543408190>>543408789>Noooooooo I can't make lewd insults against the royal family!!!! Free speech is dead!!!!I truly can't believe anyone can be this oblivious but to point out the obvious: NO state has true freedom of speech. Anywhere, ever. That's because statehood in and of itself incentivizes thought control to reinforce existing power structures.The difference between democracies and monarchies/dictatorships is that democracies rely on *ideology* for legitimacy, their rationale to stay in power (in particular, the ideology of the ruling party). Monarchies simply rely on public opinion regarding an individual.This is why democracies tend to be far more censorious on political/historical topics (e.g., ruthlessly banning any honest discussion of the "Holocaust"). Monarchies mostly focus on censoring personal criticism of the monarch, a much more benign and less distortionary form of censorship.
>>543395515you hit the nail on the headrecommended reading:Fate of Empires by sir John Bagot Glubbhttps://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
>>543409176The spain flag is this Thread's resident shill.ZOG spends American tax dollars to make sure there is a shill on every single thread of /pol.
>>543408814>The entire EU is a humiliation ritual when it comes to censorship, Netherbro. The EU literally forces social media services to censor anti-EU content.Then why do I routinely criticize the EU, like.. several times a week usually in fact, without being censored or arrested?>And lets not forget you literally get arrested for showing any doubts about the holohoax or saying anything about the Jews.Bullshit. I'm not a holocaust denier but if I was, I wouldn't be arrested for it. And we have literally cities, highways and universities being protest-blockaded by Free Palestine protesters who even shout things like "gas the jews" and barely get arrested over it despite that being actual hate speech (incitement to violence is not exactly covered by free speech laws anywhere) so you are completely full of shit.>press freedom>The press are just private companies defending what benefits themselves.You're conflating press with news. The press includes publishers which includes books and essays and all publications. That's literally what press means, ie printing press. Again, I think you'll find Europe's list of banned books is considerably shorter than the United States even if it differs by state and country, generally speaking Europe is more tolerant of different ideas, not less.>What matters is if the people have the freedom to speak freely, which they do more in America than in the EU or, as you correctly stated, Brazil.I can say anything I want and not get arrested over it, because the "EU" has NO POWER WHATSOEVER over speech in my country and I do believe any EU country. I'm not sure where you got this idea from, but the EU doesn't govern our judicial systems, which are (still) sovereign and national and we should burn down Brussels if that should ever change. Perhaps countries like Germany (or UK even if ex-EU) don't have robust speech protections if they ever did but that's actually not EU's doing, and they likely voted for it in one way or another.
>>543409176> (e.g., ruthlessly banning any honest discussion of the "Holocaust"). Monarchies mostly focus on censoring personal criticism of the monarch,>>543408870>>543408648Jews are the monarchs of the USA and the vassal states of USA.Debunking the holohoax is a stab at the monarchs
>>543409222Checked and you are 100% correct.That's ok though, his thrice regurgitated slop arguments provide a good opportunity to educate fence sitters or whignats who may be redpilled on race but not on political theory. People who see how bad things are but still think (((democracy))) is the solution are exactly who we need to convince.
>>543394663That's what happens in legend of the galactic heroes
>>543409174I lived the past 7 years in Cambo. On a deserted island during covid hehe.Man it sucks so hard that trump gave Cambo to the Chinese in 2016. Before everybody had us army stickers on their bikes. I also put one on my Honda XR. Really sad that america betrayed the free world and is now going cleptocratic dictatorship. I also removed my us army sticker. Fucking traitors selling everything out, giving it away for free to china and Russia. Just handing it over...Insane
>>543409314>That's ok though, his thrice regurgitated slop arguments provide a good opportunity to educate fence sitters or whignats who may be redpilled on race but not on political theory. People who see how bad things are but still think (((democracy))) is the solution are exactly who we need to convince.Exactly. When dealing with shills just post truth and redpills for any onlooker. When you post truth they will attack it.
>>543409372Nah dude.All american foreign policy under Trump is against China.It is pro Russia and pro israel.Anti china anti europe anti iran.Due to failure in Iran, USA will do a false flag then blame it on China for world war 3.After China is defeated then globohomo sodomy kalergi BNWO reigns supreme.If China wins there will be no more jewish race and no more negro race
>>543409314This thread was obviously made by a Russian bot. Hilarious that you are falling for it. Fucking retard lol
>>543409480Well, you are obviously a Zionist.
>>543409279Fucking dumbass. Article 137c of the Dutch law prohibits holocaust denial. And that is because the EU wanted us to make it illegal.
>>543396548No, your work is good and important, even though it is a small tragedy to see a board that once threatened the powers that be with its investigative work (which it really did) succumb to what it is now.To your thoughts:I have some concrete beliefs as to where the ultimate dissent will come from and I have been wary of pointing it out, as I believe that the enemny is actively scraping this board for insights they can then turn against us.I feel hooligans are an obvious demographic that wil be a determining factor and I feel they're one they could not control yet. "Based retards", if you will.Generally it will not be the ones in the middle of the bell curve that will start an uprising against the current system, but the extremes working together: the very smart inciting the less smart and and directing the waves of dissent with the midlings either joining or being the internal enemy - the pillar of the system (see Covid).Also, it is interesting to note that the Mas*nic agenda according to A. Pike clearly states a kind of uprising due to unbearable tyranny and governmental mismanagement as essential step towards fulfilling their own end. It will be interesting to how this pans out, because I believe that Mas*ns, being mediocre-at-best middle managers, could not possibly foresee just how badly their actions/plans could blow up in their pedophiliac faces. IE: they theory-craft all these scenarios but are too detached from the common man to really understand what they're dealing with. P.S. everything is cyclical. /pol/ now is not as bad as it was a year/two ago before the great hack happened. Cheer up
>>543409456Dude, he literally gave Cambodia away on a silver plate to the Chinese. Like a present or donor ship. completely abandoning it. And with-it not only losing geopolitical and military strategical influence aswell as resources but also the trust faith and hope that the Cambo population was holding all these years. You look like traitors to them now. And in those 10 years china took complete control, ownership and raped Cambo like absolutely insane shit
>>543409300Good point.But I hope you see how banning criticism of Jews and their entire sociopolitical history, is more distortionary than banning criticism of a single guy. That is, it is more damaging to the truth since it requires lying about such a huge range of topics - all the things Jews have touched over the years. This, in a nutshell, is why autocratic censorship is less damaging than democratic censorship. We see this pattern going all the way back to classical Greece. Those wonderful champions of democracy, the Athenians, went batshit crazy and purged every philosopher or intellectual in the city. They fled to Sparta, Corinth, Macedon, etc., all autocracies that protected ideological speech because it didn't threaten the personal reputation of the autocrats.The only guy who refused to flee (out of principal) was Socrates, and the democrats, predictably, killed him for it.
>>543408427What is it about these posts that you find so questionable or objectionable that you think they could be made by a bot?Could you elaborate on that for a minute? I am genuinely curious.
>>543409877He did elaborate. It's so fucking hilariously retardet only a brics ai could come up with that shit
>>543394984Our elite will gun them down with drones.
>>543409629It's now fully implemented in cn new silk road. Sihanoukville is defacto in Chinese hands with Chinese military and Chinese police controlling the city. They brought in prisoners from china to build 50 skyscrapers. The Chinese triads main bosses are now in Cambodia and managing 200.000 slaves in scam compounds scamming American boomer money into Chinese pockets roflmaoThe orange fat millionaire sold you out to his Russian and Chinese cleptocratic friends. And musk and friends. Who the fuck do you think finances Twitter and 4chan bot farms. The nwo LGBTQ Soros? Or actually can run bot farms at work. The million dollar question
>>543410000But where did he? I think that maybe you and the Estonian flags are really the bots here. I shall filter you out now. Thanks for exposing yourself.
>>543396548I think it was well thought out. I dont have anything to add to it as im going to bed, but Thanks.
Fucking Cn ru botfarm here and maybe some cancer kids new to politicsI was here when this place dossed visa and Mastercard and organized bankruns you fucking pussies
>>543410239Bist du dumm oder was. Nichts von dem was indem original post steht hat auch nur annähernd was mit der Realität zu tun. Komplett ki slop
>>543407878>confucius>communistNigga…. I….
>>543410442Na wenn du schon danach fragen muast, dann habe ich schlechte Nachrichten für dich, du Malle Expatriat.Ich bin in nem anderen Lamd als Deutschland großgeworden und kann dir sagen, dass du und ihr alle die in der EU aufgewachsen seid, absolut keinen Schimmer davon habt wie hart es wirklich "da draussen" ist und was alles auf uns zukommt. Also kommt mir nicht mit diesen halbgaren, grandiosen Behauptungen ohne auch nen Funken an Argumentation zu bieten. Und du hast mich vorhin wahrscheinlich nicht bemerkt, aber ich wiederhole mich teotzdem für dich: wo hat denn der Lette seine Haltung dargelegt?Du bist ein kleiner Penner und so'ne Lauchburschen wie dich stopfe ich mit Fäusten wie Nutten mit Pimmeln. Mein erhabener Oldfag.
>>543394663>All of these tenants are collapsing.Any evidence of this?The boomers that you cry so much about will die of natural causes and then society will be overtaken by kalergoid abomination making our times seem like a paradise that people will look back fondly upon as if we were now going through the 90s.Best case scenario there is some balkanization and some regions get to keep their racial identity as everything slowly decays during a process that will last centuries. This is assuming we're not about to enter some crazy timeline with AI which we probably are. The slave migrant class will be replaced with slave robots. Who will be in charge, who knows. Hopefully a literal AI god.
>>543394663>>543394984>>543395515I might've read all that if you didn't have a Brazilian flag.
Yarvinslop.
>>543410641I don't believe the scenarios laid out in OP are going to come the way they're described, but it's important to get a conversation about something productive other than BBC and Trump going.
>>543410848Meant for>>543410442
>>543407036>just increases vaxxers risk of heart attack by 5-10% or so, so still bad but not anywhere close to an existential problem. There's just no evidence of anything else.The issue is how does it affect fertility. Thats the thing we haven't truly discovered yet.
>>543408558>You can criticize jews there.>Here you can criticize Xi but you cant criticize jewsSo Xi rules there and jews rule here.If you want to know who your rulers are look at who you can't criticise.
