>>543394967So prison?
>>543394967on other people's dime?
wanting things doesn't make you a competent leader
>>543394967This post is extremely low quality
Illegal aliens that work at slaughterhouses aren't treated with dignity at all. Go vegan.
>>543394967Some people need to be enslaved.
>>543394967Nobody deserves to be treated with dignity, only civility. Being a faggot libtard will never be a dignified existence.
>>543395071On the uber wealthy's? Sure, why not?
I want more people dead. Too many people on the earth. We need to weed them out. Where do I fall on the political scale?
>>543394967Why can't they do it for themselves?
>>543394967I don't want to feed or house non-whites.Thanks anyway.
>>543395270you gonna be like luigi he shot an ultra rich democrat mega donor
>>543394967Why doesn't he just pay for it himself?
>>543394967Democrats have made housing more expensive to make their republican allies richer, railed against food for being bad for the climate to distract from their republican allies and their own private jets, lowered the standard of education to make people less able to question either party, and systematically discriminated against the native populace while importing a foreign nations lower class to supply their republican allies with cheap labor.Democrat moral vagueposting really doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Ya'll drove the illiteracy rate up.
>>543394967it just says "people" not "everyone", i can work with this, oh yes indeed.
>>543394967Machiavellian lying bullshit.
>>543395270>why not?the uber rich and wealthy will move somewhere else that doesn't take their uber rich wealth and we'll be left destitute you fucking retardo>inb4 "good, they don't produce anything"they provide the equipment, training, infrastructure, etc that enables the working class to produce value
>>543394967yep I 100% agree with this because niggers and brownoids are not people
This is not an exaggeration.
>>543394967You want brown third-worlders fed, housed, educated and treated with dignity. I want Americans fed, housed, educated and treated with dignity.We are (((not the same)))
THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG>THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONGTHE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG>THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONGTHE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG>THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONGTHE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG>THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONGTHE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG>THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONGStay salty bitch.
>>543394967Simple misunderstanding. We don't see you as people.
>>543394967Both Democrats and Republicans don't want that for people, sure they will say they do as lip service but through their own actions it is clear they don't want it. So what exactly is the argument here?
>>543394967https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
>>543396104The republican party will do neither. It is a progressive-owned apparatus that exists to create the karmic retribution they think should exist to punish you for going against the erasure of the white race.
Why support those who do not contribute to society? Fuck these leftist idiots who want a country full of subhuman parasites being supported by hard working people who get nothing but robbed for more and more taxes to pay for these freeloaders...Fuck that..bums do not need help or support,they don't deserve anything...
>>543396086This is 100% true
>>543396078>the uber rich and wealthy will move somewhere else that doesn't take their uber rich wealth and we'll be left destitute you fucking retardoWhere?
>>543394967>1pbtid
Why are left wing slogans so reductive and hyperbolic? Oh it’s because they’re appealing to low-IQ people?
>>543396086
>>543394967100% facts
>>543396274i accept your concession
>>543396086the presupposition is that MAGA would give a shit if you used your own resources to feed others. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter, Israel needs my tax money to kill sand niggers in the middle east not feed niggers here the the U. S. of A.
>>543394967So let's let the spiteful ruling class of Jews import a bunch of savage monkeys to dehouse us, lower our standards of education, and violently genocide us.
>>543396369I'll take that as a non-answer.
>>543394967nobody cares, commie. Finish up your 15 minute break and get back to work. I need my latte.
>>543395071No, I pay taxes too. It would be on my dime.
>>543396086What does this mean?
>>543396078I'm cool with that. I would love to see bezos try to set up Amazon in indonesia. That'd be funny.
>>543394967pretty sure reps endorse every single spec listed on picrel if you have a job
>>543394967>government imports illegals>bus them into your cities >the government needs to pay for their housing do you even american history? you're on your own
Nothing says treating people with dignity like spraying graffiti on some poor sap's wall.
>>543394967GET A JOB YOU PARASITE LEECH
>>543394967>peoplethey mean spics and niggers
>>543394967If you change this to "white people" it's a hate crime btw
>>543394967Lots of Christian, Republican and Conservatives feed the poor and help with housing. But they use their own money to help out and don't demand it by the Tax Payers. Go be a commie faggot elsewhere
>>543394967Americans first instead of last. FUCK THE 2 PARTY SYSTEM that gives away to immigrants and foreigners instead of American citizens/
A system where the objetive of every individual is to work hard to better the life of everyone and to better the country, not to get rich and buy mansions, sport cars and yachts. Is that possible?
>>543395044actually they though of closing down Oakland California's city jail, remove the doors and bars and use it as a free shelter for homeless and the Jail's kitchen as a open kitchen for everyone to use. You have free comunity showers as well. no locks on the doors and come and go. but most homeless who have drug problems and were previously arrested refused to live in it because it reminded them of being arrested and spending time there.but it was a nice option. better than being on the streets. the only rule was no drugs, no smoking and come in and out during respectable hours (but you can come in anytime, just not in and outs) and not make noise during 10pm-6am
>>543397594The government should help religious organizations redistribute their wealth to the poor by taxing them like income generating businesses.
>i'm just such a gosh darn heckin good person :^)This is masturbatory nonsense. These fuckers want other people to spend other people's money doing this shit so they can sit back and say they're on the right side of history for wanting it and shilling for it.Pathetic delusional nonsense. These hypocritical fuckers wouldn't house/feed/clothe people at their own expense.
>>543397545damn. reading pircel was harsh. Funny but harsh
>>543394967Feeded and seeded, and treated with dignisneed
>>543394967Neither side wants those things for you. That is the thing they tell you they want so you show up to vote for them. Politicians lie to you, so they can get elected to do the bidding of their masters. The two parties exist to cancel each other out once in office. The election promises of your side get blocked by the other team, your team blocks the election promises of my team, and they reach across the aisle to jam through the will of the oligarchs who own them both. It's 2026 we really shouldn't still need this remedial civics lesson any longer.
israel needs that money more than you dowhat are you? anti semetic? MIGA
>>543397794>You don't understand, everything has to be a price gouged capitalist shitopia because anything else is anti american and a sin against baby jesus.This kind of shit is why I will never be a conservative. We are the wealthiest first world nation and corporate global judaism has convinced most of them to die for neoliberal dystopia.
>>543397794Why do you have a problem with billionaires paying slightly more taxes?
>>543394967I too will always side with the people that want you to get a job and stop drawing graffiti.>Huh? But...No buts, OP. Stop being a faggot on purpose.
>>543397736basicallyin the meme version guy on the right represents all workersin the actual version guy on the right represents dead money parasites
>>543397941>are*Were.Please review the economics of the past 50 years.
>>543397794Libtards are just desperate to feel good about behaving immorally. They’re all consumed by intense rage because they’re really insecure. It’s all one big cope.
>>543398011>in the actual versionBoth sides are the dead money parasites, retard. Pay the fuck attention.
>>543398011>dead money parasitesSomeone worked for that money and chose to feed and house their grandchildren with it. Dead money inky exists in the idea that it is currently in the hands of generational support of white families and isnt being wasted on the infinite hordes of browns.
>>543394967>EducatedMass schooling is suicide for a civilization, I think the last hundred years have settled that.
>>543396197What makes you think I’m republican? Both political parties are pure dogshit; one side wants me dead because I’m a straight white male while the other side would sell my soul to Israel at the chip of a penny.
>>543398068>>543397794you people are cringekeep voting against your own interests. look where it got you now. literal soulless goy
>>543397736The key question here would be how that guy earned all his money. Did he do it in a reasonable and respectable way or did he do it exploiting poor people?Also, the State already does that taking money from rich people through taxes and then giving it to poor people through scholarships and other public aid.
>>543394967
>>543398408Young people in NYC don't even know what your image is about. They are going to vote for a politician that wants to fix their problems, for example the housing problem.
>>543398408If they're so wrong, and their philosophy is so flawed, why did we spend 60 years trying to starve them out and destroy them?Won't it just collapse on its own?
>>543398408>does this sound familiar?No. Note the Cubans wanted to work.
>>543398231My interests are not being a hobbit surrounded by niggers you fucking imbecile.
>>543394967You're not going to find a lot of Dems meeting them either.Welcome to Uniparty U.S.A., dumbass.
>>543398397The government exploits ME by taking my money via taxes and using it to feed darkies, who can offset their lower wages with these government funds. They do this on behalf of the companies they themselves subsidize and protect with government funds and forces.It all comes back to the state. The state is an anti white engine that, where not run by jews explicitly, filters for the most sociopathic members of society who will happily further the abuse of whites.
>>543394967Who builds the houses? Who runs the farms and food infrastructure? Who does the teaching? Who does the policing? Who pays them? Wanting things is not enough. Someone has to do the work, and it had better be fair (i.e. not the 20% tax to nonwhites that I pay here in commiefornia)Diversity is a failed experiment. The nonwhites have to go back to their containment continents.
>>543394967resources are limitiedi will support the side that guaranties my demographic group gets priority to all those resources
>>543399286>Who builds the houses?Statistically, immigrants>Who runs the farms and food infrastructure?Immigrants. You didn't think this out, did you?
>>543396086Bullshit cartoon.Liberal faggots never share their own shit. They "share" everybody else's shit. They are very generous with other people's money.
>>543394967>wants
>>543394967Define people
>>543394967Neither side wants this universally.One side wants to reward the people who feed and house themselves.The other side wants to reward the people who won't feed and house themselves with the free labor of those who do.You get more of what you reward. If you reward laziness with free food and housing, you get more laziness. Entire swathes of our society have learned to extract as much from social services as possible. Often with the help of misguided leftists who ensure they're signed up for every conceivable program at the taxpayers' expense.Those of us who are trying to make a life for ourselves, but can't because we live paycheck to paycheck, have to wonder, why even bother working? Just get section 8 housing and food stamps, and then sit there and fuck around all day 'hustlin' or whatever they do.>educate>dignityLeftists have ruined education and stolen our dignity.
>>543396078>the uber rich and wealthy will move somewhere elseno, they won't
>>543394967Delusional libcuck.Take care of your own people first before letting infinite illegals in.
>>543404022I don't think he said anything about that all
>>543394967AND I DON'T SEE NIGGERS BEHAVING LIKE EDUCATED HUMANS AND PUSHING THE HUMANKIND FORWARD USING TECHNOLOGY. THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE NIGGER GENOCIDE.
>>543394967>But somebody else has to pay for it.He forgot the last line.
>>543403176>no, they won'tLeftism operates on principles of the denial of reality. Somehow these billionaires and their greed is immeasurable, but the minor inconvenience of moving is more overwhelming still.
>>543394967You jus keep coming up with alternate ways to say someone else is being invaded, then you pretend the person you’re invading is the le bad guy to get away with it It’s you, you’re the bad guy pushing invasions, communsm and lying about it
>>543394967Sorry we can't afford to to feed cloth or house you anymore... we gave it all away to foreigners .
>>543407611Everyone pays taxes, so it would be him too. Don't get so butthurt
>>543395071I’d rather my taxes help people instead of killing them.I’m funny that way.
>>543395122That’s true.Trump does nothing but want for himself
>>543407640>>543396652
>>543395211And some people just want to enslave other people because they are sick.
>>543395221Why? What’s wrong with the golden rule?You don’t like Jesus?
>>543394967>hands up everyone who wants people to be fed, housed and healthy>ok now hands up everyone who wants to personally feed people, and personally give them a house, and personally pay their medical bills?
>>543396119Then you should always be afraid because you are weak.
>>543407929It's your LUCKY DAY!!!Because it turns out you can voluntarily give your money to whoever you want RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!>inb4 "n-n-no b-but it doesn't work unless I force YOU to give YOUR money to them also...."
>>543408001I pay taxes. It counts.
>>543408071>Clearly said taxes>Ignores it cause it's not as good of a talking point
>>543408071I have given lots of money to helping other people. I paid to build a house for a family in Africa. Not one cent was tax deductible
>>543408091>>543408140Why does it have to be taxes lmao?Just go pay for people's shit right now.Like I already called it, you don't want to do it unless everyone else is also forced to pay for it - and that's the real goal you're trying to disguise in your pretend virtue.
>>543394967I agree with that graffiti! Important to note that nonwhites are not people, but aside from that little specification I'm with you 100.Also boomers too though actually.
>>543408071What have you ever done in your entire life that wasn’t selfish?What does it benefit a man to gain the world but lose his soul?
>>543408179See you dont actually need the government to do your charity, so then why are trying to get the government to weigh in on it?
>>543394967>and I don't see a single Republican meeting these criteria.I don't see the Democrats doing any of those things either, do you faggot?Stealing working people's money and giving it to corrupt NGOs isn't feeding, housing or educating the needy. You paid the CEO of a non profit a million dollar salary and then he fed a handful of people and through a party at a country club with your Democratic senators and congressman to celebrate the ten tuna fish sandwiches they handed out with $150 Million dollars.
Grown men and women of working age are simply not working, or looking to work. They need to realize each person is an individual economic unit and they cannot just choose to be deadweight while the rest of us work and contribute our share. Society falls apart when individual economic units fail to generate, you're part of a bigger system and you can't just back out of it.
>>543394967True, but nonwhites aren't people.
>>543408245Oh no no noI got the redditor so twisted up that he's double replying lmao
>>543408265Because I obviously can’t help everyone that needs it and the job of the government is defined in tge constitution as proving for the common defense and the general welfare Or maybe it’s because it’s up to everyone to make the world what it is and I don’t want us to live in hell.
>>543408179I dont see how it isnt, you just deduct it anyway. Charity is charity, if you have proof you paid. You think the IRS is gonna come look at your donated house to africans and say "hey, wait a minute, this isn't charity!" unless it's made up just do it.
>>543398231Why would I want to live in African mud huts with that old nigger while doing the subsistence farmer thing? You think that's what I want and I just don't know it?
>>543394967And democrats only want those for niggers.Your whole system is sick. Tear it all down if you want something changed, deport all jews, cut off Israel and stop all immigration that isn't tourism.
We need Soviet style gulags. Anyone refuses to work gets locked up in the deep and dark until they're ready to work. It would solve the NEET problem in a weekend. Sensory deprivation hits hard for zoomers.
>>543408295So ‘nothing’ is the answer.You’re a selfish angry loserGot it.If you hate this world, remember you’ve more than come your part to make it what it is
>>543395915>Cami Umbargerbaffling, all her kids are niglets so she already had experience with nigger men being deadbeat, and she still chose another nigger
>>543408340The point is that I didn’t do it for a right off.I did it to help someone because I could
>>543408342Me in the middle with those curves.
>>543408316So because you personally can't help everyone, your recourse is to FORCE other people to help them too?Rather than just ask them and inspire them to join you in helping?
>>543402904best post in the thread
>>543395131this comment is extremely low quality
>>543408376We don't do that here buddy, you just fuck up the reply chain.If my post makes you so buttmad that you're still seething and thinking up more stuff to write after you already hit reply then you just have to hold it in until the next round of replies.CONTROL YOURSELF lad!
>>543408398I’m not forcing anyone to do anything. ‘The government forces you to pay taxes under threat of prison.I would just prefer that resource to serve humanity rather than destroy it. What wrong with that?
>>543407493blame those who imposed Western religion on them and steal their natural resources for mirrors.
>>543408442I’ll do as I please.You don’t have any say about that.
>>543394967Who's paying for it
>>543408446>I'm not forcing anyone to do anything>I just want the government to force you to pay for the things I want Yeah how about you just keep charity voluntary champ, otherwise it's not really charity.
>>543407929Specifying what your taxes go toward is antisemitic kys
>>543408398I was addressing your point that people don’t actually give out of their own pocket.You’re just trying to shift your argument around.
>>543408493You can indeed shit up the board as much as you want and I will indeed point it out and tell you to go back
>>543408530That not what this threads about. Champ.
>>543394967powerful
>>543408557As if I care what you do.
>>543408550>double replying AGAINJust pause before you click the button budJust take a moment to let all the seethe pass from your body so there'll be none left to continue thinking of extra things to write after you reply
>>543394967All of that exclusively happened and happens under conservative values. Progressive values, in fact, cast doubt on the worth of countless human beings, i.e. unborn children. Therefore, you are a disgusting nigger tranny freak, and I stand on the side of love and goodness.
>>543394967you want your people to be fed, housed, educated and treated with dignity? there is only one option then.
>>543408539You first
>>543408574OH NO NO NONOW HE'S WALKING IT BACK
>>543408589>I DEMAND U TREAT ME WITH DIGNITY! FEED ME MOARRR... CLOTHE ME... RESPECT MAH!>t.
>>543408609You could
>>543408609Have been a
>>543408609Real boy
Uh oh he's crashing out
>>543395071How come jews get to dine on everyone else's dime?They didn't work for it, they got it through printing.Fuck off.
>>543408609Pinocchio
>>543408214>Why does it have to be taxes lmao?Cause that's how america funds things>you don't want to do it unless everyone else is also forced to pay for it Alright, I just donated $20. Which completely disproves your point.>and that's the real goal you're trying to disguise in your pretend virtue.No, the real goal is not to put the effort into half measures when you can manage full measures
>>543408530Hey I'll keep charity voluntary if you make war voluntary
>>543408759>Cause taxes and not donation is how america funds things>Alright, I just donated $20You just proved my point you absolute brainlet lmao
>>543394967>>543396086
>>543408804False binaryIt is entirely possible to be against both forced "charity" and forced goy slave wars
>>543394967>Treated with dignityExcept White men. You try to demean and emasculate us when you can.
>>543408850This very night, your soul shall be required of thee. And then, whom shall these things be?
>>543408815You lie. You didn't have a point.>>543408850>False binaryNo, it's a genuine deal.
>>543394967it's neat that everyone's a classical christian now (except FUCK christianity). somehow infinite 3rd worlders is the issue that inspires altruism. 'love thy neighbor' (except FUCK your neighbor) and love foreign invaders.
>>543395131it's graffiti
>>543394967>>543395270>Sure, why not?1) It's been demonstrated multiple times that if you drained every billionaire of every last cent they have, it wouldn't even feed the poor for a month.2) What is the incentive to become wealthy if you know your money is just gonna be stolen and given to those who didn't earn it?3) If you really wanted to house, feed, and educate people, you could start be removing all of the brown parasites and leech off the system and make it untenable. But of course, these lefty types mean your money (not their money, conveniently) should house, feed, and educate niggers and illegals
>>543408950You just proved that it's actually not "how america funds things" and it's entirely possible voluntarily fund charity.So once again, if you want the government to weigh in on it, then forcing people is the point.
>>543409159Don’t worry.No one can ever force you into being a decent man. You can live your entire life without caring about anything but yourself and nothing anyone ever does can force you to do otherwise.
>>543409280You're starting to get it little buddy!You can't force people to be generous otherwise it doesn't count as generosity - it has to be voluntary. You can only hope to inspire them and change their minds, lead by example, not by force.
>>543409159>You just proved that it's actually not "how america funds things"America is a nation, not a person. It runs on taxes. This is basically the only money it has. >and it's entirely possible voluntarily fund charity.Never said it wasn't. Said america only funds things one way. The people of america are free to pursue other avenues. But the country itself is basically a one trick pony.>So once again, if you want the government to weigh in on it, then forcing people is the point.No, its a means to an end, it doesn't have to be the whole point. When it comes to cops, you wouldn't say "forcing them to pay for cops is the point" when the point is clearly safety. Saying cops are about redistribution of wealth, is massively disingenuous
>>543400133>ImmigrantsAnd why do companies use illegals instead of American workers? Oh, that's right, it's because they live 8 to a single-bedroom apartment and work for pennies on the dollar, never ask for raises or benefits, and never complain about working conditions, because if they do any of that, ICE magically shows up at their door.It's interesting how despite how much the left claims to love illegals, you never ever see them speak out against the exploitation of migrants. It's not even an issue for them. Almost like its by design.
>>543409393>other people are the means to an end which I have personally determined so that's why I have to force them into achieving that endWell there it is - the little mao or stalin that comes out of every "generous" virtue signalling commie sooner or later
>>543394967every democrat run city is infested with homeless. fuck off you blue haired freak
>>543409557>Oh, that's right, it's because they live 8 to a single-bedroom apartment and work for pennies on the dollarShit that's what I have to do. I ain't gonna hate on them for that. >never ask for raises or benefits, and never complain about working conditions,Capitalism baby. Trying to improve your position will easily get you fired.>you never ever see them speak out against the exploitation of migrantsAnd that's why socialists are better than Democrats or Republicans. The state of the worker is paramount to all else. It's a very honest ideology. What they're fighting for, they want everyone to have.
>>543409557yup they are retarded like that. when they notice the exploitation they will usually try to blame "the right" for this, the same way they have some fantasy of us all supporting hyper rich people like musk. theyre essentially brainwashed into total obedience to their "master plan", your typical party soldier ideologue type meanwhile we are just ... normal people who dont want to be flooded by third worlderspersonally i like to sum it up like this: its worse to exploit migrants than it is to hate migrants
>>543409615>Just proved the police are stalinist and virtue signaling You feeling alright man?
leftoids brought the migrants here, because theyre brainwashed, now they dont even want to take responsibility of this, nope, now its "evil capitalists"niggers you are retarded we have been telling leftoids you are controlled by global companies for like 20 years nowevery giga globo company flies your retarded flags and you fall for it every time
>>543409769>leftoids brought the migrants hereYeah, literally hopped in my car, drove down to Honduras, crammed a million people in the trunk and drove back.
>>543409700I know that, as a commie, you've never put much thought into any of this... but there are actual reasons why certain things like policing require a central authority.None of those reasons apply to chairty btw, it is entirely possible to do it in a decentralised voluntary way.
>>543394967Yeah cuz forcing productive, dilligent people to feed parasites is evil, unjust and stupid.
>>543394967>Keeping useless parasites alive just so they can keep voting for you while providing almost nothing of valueFuck republicans also.
>>543409834>None of those reasons apply to chairty btwDepends which charity. Healthcare for example, everyone in the world who has better healthcare than us uses the Nordic model. We pay more than anyone else in the world just to end up in 10th-15th place. It's a shit system that only benefits corporations.
>>543394967Yeah but if you specify "white people" no one does.
>>543394967If the left only cared about white people, they'd never lose.
>>543394967....except for the fact that in red states people are fed, housed, educated.
>>543409926It is entirely possible to voluntarily pay for other people's healthcare too bud, there are crowdfunded healthcare companies operating in your country right now.
>>543410125>70% of the poorest states are red, food stamps are 50/50 red and blue, and 11 of the 15 least educated states are redBut aside from that, sure.
>>543395071Americans always say that but do any of you retards realize you're already subsidizing Israel's healthcare? Kikes have free healthcare on your dime!
>>543410081Aside from the fact that the entire "left wing" in the US is an extortion racket bent on an endless cycle of taxation and theft/misuse/waste of tax dollars.
>>543396086A more accurate version>elmo has a sandwhich>girl takes said sandwich from elmo to give to the destitue loser muppet
>>543410157Yes, but it's objectively not as good. The established, best system of healthcare in the world is single payer.
>>543394967I want that too. MY people.Other peopels are not my problem.
>>543410221Define, poor you gay fucking nigger.Look at homeless rates or something.This "Poorest" shit is jewish bullshit just like everything you believe.
>define "people"
>>543394967The way to hell is paved with good intentions. They say this shit and next thing you know, you have 2 or 3 million people starved to death.I saw it on my country, it ended with 350% inflation and we got off very light. Turns out that free shit handed out by the government is not free, who knew.
>>543410324Based on recent U.S. Census Bureau data and poverty rate rankings, Mississippi ranks as the poorest state in the U.S.Poverty is mostly measured by the percentage of residents living below the federal poverty line. The ten U.S. states with the highest poverty rates are:Mississippi (~18% to 19.3%)Louisiana (~18.6%)New Mexico (~18.1%)West Virginia (~17.0%)Kentucky (~15.9%)Arkansas (~15.3%)Alabama (~15.0%)Oklahoma (~14.5%)Tennessee (~13.5%)South Carolina (~13.5%)We could also rank poorest by most federal assistance but you won't like those numbers either.
>>543410453OK, that's poverty which is a number that measures yearly income in dollars.What about something more topical like homelessness?
>>543410744It would be a more fair measurement if red states didn't purposefully bus them into blue states like cali.
>>543394967Thats the advert, heres the reality
>>543410874First day on the job? Why not look into that false claim, liar?
>>543410744homelessness is not correlated with poverty. homes are dirt cheap in areas where nobody has any money.
>>543410304>my utopia, which is just over the horizon, is the best because... IT JUST OK!!!!>and that's why I need to force you to help me achieve it, regardless of whether you agree it's the bestMost well reasoned communist position
>>543410744But hey, let's check the stats just for funCalifornia: ~182,000 to 187,000 people New York: ~145,000 to 158,000 people.Washington: ~31,500 people.Florida: ~31,300 people.Massachusetts: ~29,300 people.Texas: ~27,900 people
>>543411056OK, and those places are in which states?So, it's like you think inflation via excessive taxation, like we see in CA, is a good thing.
>>543411057>is the best because... IT JUST OK!!!!There's objective medical stats behind the concept, friend. Wait times. Disease rates. Medical outcomes. Mortality. You can measure these things if you care to.
>>543394967A lot of poor people are arseholes who habtually fuck up the chances they are given
>>543411042Oh, I know for a fact abbott bussed people out of texas. Which, good for them, it kinda sucks here in texas. If you're gonna be homeless, the beach is way better than the desert.
>>543411173Gotcha, but stats say that over 90% of homeless became homeless in the area they live in.So your claim is a lie, despite your lived experience or whatever you're boasting about.
>>543411130Buddy I live in a single payer healthcare country, there are 3 similarly cultured anglo countries to America that all have single payer healthcare and every election cycle their #1 election topic is:>how do we fix our shitfucked healthcare and how are we going to pay for it
>>543394967Communists have a terrible track record with dignity, food and mortality.
>>543411057And according to these objective medical measurements, america ranks between 10th and 15th place depending on the year. Everyone with better healthcare than us all use the single payer system. It's not a coincidence.
>>543394967fuck off commie scum
>>543411252>how do we fix our shitfucked healthcare and how are we going to pay for itJust imagine how much it sucks having an entire health insurance industry standing between you and your doctor, dictating what kind of care you receive according to some fucking corporation's profit margins.I assure you your system can be way worse.
>>543411278The NHS in Britain used to send their worst cancer patients to the U.S to get the most advanced laser treatment bud
>>543411278Post source of objective stats.
>>543411357Well here's the first one I've got, I'll find some more if you're interested.https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2024/sep/mirror-mirror-2024
>>543411428>EquityFind one without this gay fucking bullshit that isn't an objective measure of anything.
>>543411428>top 3 countries are Australia and UKLmaoIf you knew anything about the wait times horror stories from either of our countries you'd realise how ridiculous this is
>>543411496Addendum:>which we weight Nothing can be objective that has been weighted. This source is denied as objective.
>>543411496Ok, let's get brutal with it. This one compares our healthcare to fucking cuba. The most expensive healthcare in the world, to a failing communist, shithole.https://pnhp.org/news/cuba-has-better-medical-care-than-the-u-s/
>>543411515I'm going to go get some nachos. Let me know if the faggot, who is a retard, posts anything that's actually objective and not weighted.
>>543411515I waited 14 months to see a gastroenterologist. And I have a gold insurance plan
>>543411580Grab me a corndog
>>543394967that side isn't a political party, it's the Church
>>543411564Do you really believe this?>brutalNo, it appears not even you believe this.This is another optical illusion for retards likely based on weighted WHO studies.This is why Democrats and left shits believe so much shit that isn't true.Also the WHO is tied the the WEF, which wants more US money dumped into healthcare to enrich billionaires.
>>543411564>>543411580Raw numbers comparing the twohttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4504306/
>>543411654>Do you really believe this?I'm beholden to numbers, I ain't going to just assume something's better. And you shouldnt either.
>>543411580That was not the link I thought it was, but stillhttps://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Cuba/United-States/Health
>>543394967So National Socialists?
>>543396536As an anti-leftist, I would like to see people have the things mentioned in your first post. Meaning, I'd love to see the majority of the population show the ambition, drive, and intestinal fortitude to earn all of those things.Unfortunately there are a lot of retarded people in this country and it'd be better off for humanity to let Darwinism take its course.
>>543411654>which wants more US money dumped into healthcare to enrich billionaires.Single payer is estimated to cost america a trillion dollars less. So they would NOT want this kind of healthcare. A nation can easily collectively bargain for things like cheap insulin where our current system cannot. Under our current system, you will pay what they charge for insulin, or you will die. No haggling.
>treated with dignityLeftists treat their own nation's children as sex slaves an worse for filthy foreignersLeftists don't know the meaning of "dignity"
>>543411705Post the numbers then. This is a faggot activists opinion on a study by the WHO.
>>543394967I want my army of loyal, determined, violent, racist anti-semites to be fed, housed, educated and treated with dignity but my guess is OP or the graffiti artist from his pic would have an issue with that.
>>543398408 You're right, it should just collapse all in it's own. But it's always the Jew.S. trying to force these places to collapse because on their own will actually prosper. Jew zionists were infesting and destroying Cuba like they do everywhere else, like the US and Europe. Cubans pushed back against jews and jews called them communists for doing so, like jew zionists do everywhere else. And then the jew zionists in the US spend 60 years helping the jew zionists in Cuba trying to starve out the Cubans and destroy Cuban society.Communism isn't real. It's a jewish fictional term for people who don't like jews attacking them.
>>543411662>A Matter of Perspective: Seeing Cuban and United States Health Systems Through a Cultural Lens>Cultural Lens>HEALTH INEQUITIESRaw numbers, huh? Doubt.
>>543412071>>543411749You'll notice they don't beat us in every conceivable way, but it's a hell of a comparison. The beat us in about 70% of them while paying about $200 a year.
>>543412243Yeah, I corrected myself. You're still catching up.
>>543395071 >on other people's dime?>>543397794 >These fuckers want other people to spend other people's money>>543402468 >They are very generous with other people's money.Everything jews say is a lie or some projection. Unless taxes have been abolished, this is not an argument and never will be. Yes, our taxes should come back to us, not to Israel and the fucking jews sex trafficking and prostitution (porn). If you were against "spending other people's money" taxes wouldn't exist at all. Looks like jews and far right government love spending other people's money especially Jewpublicans who spend much more of other people's money every time they're in office, just that none of it comes back to American people. It goes to jews and goddamn jews sex trafficking and prostitution. And "liberals" and "leftists" are just synonymous for "jewish people" and "fictional people that jews make up on the spot when lying during political rhetoric."
>>543394967Guy who wrote this would love hitler>we are so back!
>>543412249Eh, 70% was probably an overestimate
>>543411749OK and those are raw numbers, finally.Notice that none of this shit even really matters?There's one metric that matters that no one measures that's specifically related to healthcare. That is: quality of healthcare.This isn't data about healthcare. This is data about how healthy people are.
>>543412267Yep just did. I really went to get nachos.
>>543412431Did you get my corn dog?
>>543398688You're right, it should just collapse all in it's own. But it's always the Jew.S. trying to force these places to collapse because on their own will actually prosper. Jew zionists were infesting and destroying Cuba like they do everywhere else, like the US and Europe. Cubans pushed back against jews and jews called them communists for doing so, like jew zionists do everywhere else. And then the jew zionists in the US spend 60 years helping the jew zionists in Cuba trying to starve out the Cubans and destroy Cuban society.Communism isn't real. It's a jewish fictional term for people who don't like jews attacking them.
>>543412456It's 4am. No one has corndogs right now.7/11 always has the nacho cheese machine running though.
the dems don't really support that stuff either tho
>>543412411This one measures quality. Or attempts to. https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/quality-u-s-healthcare-system-compare-countries/
>>543394967I support people feeding themselves, housing themselves, educating themselves, and conducting themselves in a dignified manner. People who demand handouts are bereft of all dignity.
This one puts US healthcare in 33rd place. Yikes.https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/health
fuck off hypocrite, you led me into nothingness just like you will the rest of them. The sooner your liver fails and you die the better will be for the rest of the world.WHOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>543394967Call me crazy but i prefer the side that actually gets that done or something close to it, rather than just performatively whining about "wanting" it but conveniently using a desire for perfection as an excuse for not even getting closer to the goal.
>>543412784DSA is the closest to a side that actually accomplished these things, but they're just starting out as a movement. Their list of achievements is small, but still better than either of the major political parties, cause they don't do shit.
>>543412594I'm still looking at it, but it seems like it's not measuring what we actually want and that is, "If I need to see a doctor or go to the hospital, will live?".Which is what most people really what when they have a health problem.Everyone already knows fat ass Americans live hard asf,
>>543394967Pretty sure Republicans donate more time and money to charitable programs and services but since those donations are tied to religious related stuff, Democrats don't count them.Democrats overwhelming exceed Republicans in donating to foreign aid related non-profit charities though (which is very retarded as you only need to spend 10-15% of donated money toward the stated cause to be considered a non-profit).Either way, donating anything toward foreign programs is dumb in general because foreign conditions have never really improved by much despite the billions in aid given to impoverished nations. This was highlighted when USAID funding was cut off by DOGE and the death rates in the following months and year were just the same as the months and years when gobs of cash were being slammed into those areas meaning that money wasn't doing shit.
>>543412864DSA hasn't even achieved free bus rides in NY.You'll still suck commie cock.
>>543412997Weird flex, when you know damn well the others haven't done it either.
>>543412594I'm viewing this right now which might be the numbers related to actual healthcare instead of scammy trash datahttps://www.oecd.org/en/topics/policy-issues/healthcare-quality-and-outcomes.html
>>543413112Interesting
>>543394967I do not see any jew either wanting that but for themselves. Why exactly you imbeciles keep pushing this rep/dem shit on /pol/? 2016 was 10 years ago and was fun to try to demolish the status-quo but then Migatards expected Q to work wonders and sit on their asses doing nothing. Now they have kikes taking over all (((right-wing))space. Your sides are both shit and jewish golems.
>>543412997Alright, I'm out. G'night cuckservative frien.
>>543410221>educatedget a load of this niggerfaggot
>>543413079No one else promised to.
>gulags, gruel, and goy brainwashing = dignity
>>543394967Not even Bernie Sanders meets that criteria
>>543413330>cuckservativeI'm more liberal then you, boss.
>>543394967republicans are 100% focused on Israel and nothing is going to distract them from that
>>543413510Yeah, that's probably accurate. I'm socialist these days.
>>543413502Here come the leftniggers.
>>543413543Totalitarians get the rope.
>>543413509Well the claim is that someone wants these things, and I'm pretty sure Bernie qualifies. He seems like the kinda guy that would want them.
>>543394967Im a teddy-Roosevelt-type progressive. The government has to set some regulations and standards, otherwise the masses get angrier and more violent. It doesn’t matter whether or not you think they deserve it; if they do, they’ll tear you limb from limb.
>>543413574What can I say. Well being of the working class seems like a better mission statement than acquiring capital. Also, that's a very totalitarian statement. "Everyone must hang, no exceptions"
>>543413502>pedo rapisthe rapes pedofiles?
>>543413663>Well being of the working class seems like a better mission statement thansitting on your ass being a 50pbtid jewish parasite preaching socialism. Socialism is a code word for goymmunism, the scheme devised by jews to confiscate all other people property no matter if rich or poor, for themselves. all of it>poor have propertyyes, poors had a small plot of land for example given to them for surviving WW1. They took than too everywhere they won after WW2.
>>543413789>that *you pretentions redit pederasts have no idea, unless a jew and know perfectly well the 200 years old plan.
>>543413789>Noooo! You can't advocate for ownership by the workers! It's a Jewish ploy to own everything.... Despite the fact that they can already buy and sell your entire government and military and do whatever they please already.
>>543396086That's kinda basedKILL SIX BILLION DEMONS
>>543394967The problem with socialism is that you always run out of other people's money. You want to house and feed the masses? Well, you'll end up incentivising them to create even more of themselves. Noone breeds faster than welfare parasites, meanwhile you are leaching money from the productive people and making it harder for them to have families. Eventually you have a critical mass of useless eaters and the system collapses. This is all very simple stuff, and it is the most basic logic that have evaded toxoplasmosis riddled leftist s0ys since time began.Biggest example of this? See Africa. There's about 200 million people dependant entirely on foreign aid. When the system inevitably collapses because everyone else gets sick of sending money to a continent of double digit IQ retards, that's going to be a mass starvation event. And it was caused by your socialist "kindness" that built up a dependant population in the first place. 200 mil is a conservative estimate btw, it's probably much higher but as if they're gonna tell us that.
>>543414126All money sources are finite. Also, water is wet.
>>543413977>ownership by the workers! It's a Jewish ploy to own everythingyes you fucking moron, exactly that. We had it here piece of shit and goym workers owned shit apart the right to wake up at 5am to catch the crowded bus at 6 to be at factory at 7. Saturday was working day. Directors name were Weismann and shit. Party apparatus was full of non-working kikes also. STFU nigerian IQ toiletstein.
>>543414225You're an utter brainlet if you think that adresses everything. Of course money is finite. But if you have a good economy of mainly productive people, and a system of allocation that isn't entirely unfair, you can have a functioning society. European societies were fine for a long time until we started imported random starving niggers and rapey afgans.Point being, paying low IQ retards to have large broods of children that will do nothing but eat money from the dime of productive people is not a good use of money or a sustainable one.
>>543413977>>543414304reply to this too, you fucking 50 pbtid parasite
>>543414331>Of course money is finite.Good, then you can stop repeating it like it's some sort of gotcha
>>543414343Pretty sure I already told you Jews own my country, and whatever they want inside of it. That already happened.
>>543394967The only caveat on the right is adding "my" before "people", whereas leftists in their suicidal virtue-signaling hubris don't distinguish enemy from family.
>>54341443351 pbtid parasite jew capitalizing jew word. What you gonna do about it, non-working faggot?https://streamable.com/0xnmoo
>>543394967Because people can't feed themselves, can't arrange their own cave, definately cannot educate themselves especially in the age of Internet and dignity is not subjective delusion at all. Pic related.
>>543414562Don't blame me, blame the phone. I ain't gonna go back and uncapitalized it. God you're butthurt tonight.
>>543394967The issue is one side favors brownoids and the other favors extremely rich people and kikes.There is currently not a single side favoring the white man.
le hecking basic hvman empathy o algo
>>543394967I don’t
>>543396078Worked ass off and seen no returns. Let it all fall apart, you're all annoying and fake fags
>>543414661>blame the phone>worker class supreme !!11!!!>sit doing nothing posting 52 times in a single threadWhere is my high-speed rail faggot? chop-chop, your 25 year paid holiday is over. Go dig some ditch, kill yourself and ask your equally jewish butt frens to pour some concrete over you. >they will take the money and let your rot without cover being eaten by ratsis for the good of community though.
>>543395071Not complaining when it goes to Israel do you?
>>543408071I want to put money towards relocating all Jeets back to India.
>>543415243I want to put money towards relocating all Jeets to Israel and Florida closed areas (before shipping them all to israel)How did I do?
>>543394967You americans already do that, it's just isreal that you do it for
>>543395270Look, another rube
>>543395071You think you don’t use social services? You think you don’t use social infrastructure? Man doesn’t exist outside of society. All our fake currency, yes!
>>543415681>Man doesn’t exist outside of societySa moara mata aia de jidan? How about small societies away from your pozz. How about stop thinking the tax on property do not finance those (((social services))) already you inbred fuck? Who pays for them, even if many do not use them at all? what the fuck is social infrastructure? How much you pay for it, and all the scheming jews and non-paying brownoids? How much Sam Altman donated to a hospital ever? Or Bill Gates? With White kids being the beneficiaries.
>>543394967We'll. Dem education has cities where 60% of teachers are failing literacy tests.
>>543415681If I wasn't being taxed to death to pay for people who choose not to work I wouldn't need any social services ever. Wouldn't even need the government.Funny thing is, I still don't use social services even though i'm taxed for them.I'm all for destroying society btw and when it falls i'll be at the front lines getting my moneys worth in blood.Any plan that punishes the productive in exchange for the lazy worthless niggers and foids of society is doomed to fail for very obvious reasons. Thus your kind is directly responsible for the suffering that is coming.
>>543394967Leftist dumbfuck fascists. .
>>543394967Which people? And which people pay for it?As far as I've seen it leftist answer is: if you're white you deserve to die jobless in an alley.
>>543394967Democrats are supported by the globalist bankers that want everyone dead.
>>543397925But this is simply not true. NO FUCKING BODY IS STARVING, you fuckheads. Actually the fact that nobody is starving not even 100 years old demented immobile politicians, let alone dirt poor absolutely useless billions of jeets and niggers are reproducing like a fucking rat plague and they all are surviving obviously lack of food is not the issue. Stop feeding them!Picrel is not the outcome of shortage of anything IT'S the result of over consumption and oversupply.
>>543394967Theres very important two letter word missing in there, right before "people".
