If pedophilia can be cured with psychiatric help, why can't homosexuality?
>>543398972Because then it's "oppression" and that makes the fag lovers sad. :(
>>543398972False premise
>>543398972A demon visited me and cursed me to be bisexual. Looked like Kaworu. No joke.
(((psychiatry))) kill yourselves Anons
>>543399714>bisexualThat means you can still be with a woman though, and the only reason you'd date a man is out of choice.
>>543399701Explain in logical terms without throwing a temper tantrum, why being attracted to the same sex is considered an "orientation" (made up semantics) rather than a fetish. Would you say somebody attracted to animals, incest, dead bodies, scat, gore or children was born that way, or was it developed?
>>543398972The death cure that's all this caring is about and they refuse to note how fucking criminal fags are, worst people can't even imagine cuz some fat cunt never had anyone is desperate
>>543399827This
>>543398972>this is why you fell this way>NOOOOO MY ENTIRE LIFE IS A LIE I'LL HAVE TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE *relapses*
>>543398972they cant, pedos have to be killed.
>>543398972>cured>psychiatricrumao
>>543398972The secret ingredient is consent
>>543401974That's not the question though, the question is if homosexuality can be cured or treated the same way paraphilias can.
>>543400882Consenting adults versus nonconsent, false equivalence, paraphilias are rooted in unhealthy coping mechanisms, pathological neural abnormalities and fetishization, whereas homosexuality-heterosexuality spectrum is normal measured neurology which results from standard neural development./thread
>>543402092>/threading his own postHomos have no shameThis is like typing "based" at the end of your own post lol.
>>543402193Without losing your temper and chimping out, can you explain what part of it you don't understand or disagree with?
>>543402068Paraphilias can't be cured or treated, so your question is based on a false premise. As was already pointed out to you.
>>543402092>Consenting adults versus nonconsentAbility to consent has nothing to do with the attraction, which we are discussing, not the act itself >false equivalenceHow? You can't just scream "false equivalence" to avoid answering>paraphilias are rooted in unhealthy coping mechanisms, pathological neural abnormalities Why are these considered unhealthy or abnormal, and not homosexuality? Because the (((psychiatrists))) define it that way?>and fetishizationAgain, why is it considered a fetish but not homosexuality? You are just throwing labels around > /threadfag
>>543402092>homosexuality-heterosexuality spectrum is normal measured neurologycan I have a source?
>>543399714>A demon visited me and cursed meonly through the asking for help of the Almighty Christ can you be cleansed. Try praying to the Father of the universe. The demons flee in the name of Jesus. For those who choose to throw away this world and existence to follow in Jesus' way will be saved and life after death is secured in Heaven.
>>543402764>not fighting it to the death
>>543398972>If pedophilia can be cured with psychiatric helpit can't be though
>>543402815>not fighting ityou dont have to fight your battles anymore. Jesus paid for your way. An otherwordly being, God Almighty handles things you cannot. Do not go through life without Divine Protection.
>>543402675well mental health doctors say otherwise
>>543402968if he wants to help then he can but I'm not asking for it, demons make good sport
>>543398972it can?i was under the impression that they just always want to rape kidsyou sure it works? i'd like to see the results proving it
>>543400882difference between prison gay as you describe which is a fetish for a sex act and actual gay who are romantically and sexually attracted to the same sexthere's a wee bit more to it that sexual activity in the later case lol
>>543402718I recommend to try going to university about it instead of taking it from an image board desu. Here is a recorded stanford lecture about human sexual neurologyhttps://youtu.be/LOY3QH_jOtEhttps://youtu.be/95OP9rSjxzw
>>543403072it's probably linked to homosexuality, which in of itself is probably just a behavioral disorder. But they removed all problematic behavioral disorders from the mental illness handbook you see
>>543398972at some point you have to grow up and stop caring, just live your own life
>>543402707>I don't understand any of the words Im using, explain with muktiple theses!I can't really help someone who is committed to misunderstanding anyone who disagrees. You need to elaborate what exactly you are disagreeing with for me to elucidate where your presumptions are fallacious. The answer is both simple and complex, we can see it in a brain scan and paraphilia presumes pathogenic behavior. We can prove diddling kids and animals is bad for those involved regardless how the culture around them normalizes it, but plenty gay consenting adults can live perfectly meaningful and fulfilling long lives and relationships in places that accept them without it impacting their health, mental or physical.
>>543398972Neither can be cured
>>543403159>all this shit is doctoral shit like childhood development and culture, it's not important, it feels good and that's what's important, pelvic thrusting and ejaculation, I know most of you would rather learn about depressionwow college is great, gatekeeping at its finest, I distinctly hear a lot of women giggling, this is gold
>>543403449you ah....you really like taking the fun out of it huhboring actual answers are not how you provoke a schizo to post more schizo shit :|
>>543403509>I kid you not one of the leading models for the purpose of the female orgasm is that it makes you tired so you lay down
>>543403509Is it really gatekeeping if its readily available online for free? Sounds like intellectual laziness and coping honestly. Nobody said its easy, we are just saying the information is readily available if you actually care about the subject. If you want to discuss medical level biology like "what are psychiatric disorders?" "What is human sexuality on a neurological level?" Then why bother asking half the retards with a podcast on the internet when you can just go straight to people who study it professionally for a living?
>>543403709It's brainwashing is what it is, I didn't realize he was completely ignorant of psychology and a complete biological crackpot. It feels good? Female rats aren't passive because they have slightly nuanced displays in the wild
>>543398972Neither can be cured, both should be slow cooked and fed to pigs to make them tastier.
>>543403449I understand perfectly what you are saying. You are again referencing the act rather than the attraction itself. It does not matter if one cannot consent or the act has been deemed unhealthy for the purpose of this discussion. Do these fetishes and homosexual attraction arise in the same manner psychologically? If so, then homosexuality is a fetish, no matter how many word games academics play.
>>543403793>completely ignorant of psychologyTo be fair psychology is considered a soft science for good reason. Its a work in progress to say the least
>>543404079>reeeee>Do they arise in the same manner psychological?Well no, they arent even the same neurological structures associated as per my previous sources. Can you prove otherwise?
>>543398972pedophilia, like homosexuality with which is strongly inter-twined, are predatory criminal behaviours which can be cured by various means: lead slugs through brain, dropping from a roof, ovens, hangings and so on. "Psychiatry" is just another mean for jews to make money on the vices they promoted. The HUGE majority of serial killers were/are pedos and homos themselves.
>>543404085Actually they completely ditched psychology because it didn't reach the conclusions they wanted back in like the 50's and 70's. >is female's inability to orgasm and male premature ejaculation a pathology, I'm not going anywhere near that onealso>there's a region in the brain that has twice the neuron density in males and you can accurately determine the sex post mortem>immediately switches to using "gender"
>>543398972Because some mental illnesses are stunning & brave. Because they just are, okay??
>>543402092>paraphilias are rooted in unhealthy coping mechanismsindeed
>>543404371what's wrong with flashers again? it's just a bit of fun
Fucking 14+ girls is not pedophilia. Not here in Brazil.There isn’t reports of girls under the age of 14 in Trump’s case.I, as an adult man, had a french kiss with a 14 years old girl, here in Brazil, some years ago.Am I a pedophile?Here in Brazil it is legal. Here, 14+ years old is legal for adults to pick.
>>543404310>talking about gender and sex is too confusingThey are distinct terms, its not impossible to follow along once you understand that.
>>543398972Why do you hate everyone?
>>543399827>>543401025OP is exposing the scam of psychiatry being used as a social rug to sweep unwanted people beneath. it is not a genuine "help" for anyone but the people leeching money off taxpayers by operating the institutions on behalf of the world health organization.it's a pyramid scam marketing itself via psychological warfare means to be "the good guys".
>>543404699Dopamine is interesting, people will pursue statistical "maybes" over something they know is true. Then he says you lose your dopamine in a long term relationship and instead get empathy. Then he moves on very quickly. Hold up, that explains modern sexual behaviour, sex has been gamified and for retards this would be indiscernible from a healthy relationship. Okay, not important
>>543404281>>543404721psychiatry is used as a means to secure funding and backdoor shuffle their people away from society's eyes similar to "witness protection" programs.your societies are fake and gay because you allow homosexuals (foreign influenced retards) to breathe with the same "rights" as yourself.
>>543404827you realize they did that on purpose right, it's not the fault of the field
>>543404689>Allow me to explain how we do things in brown, third-world shit hole countries. No thanks, beaner.
>>543404861okay and hour and 13 minutes in, he's got the singular study that got on the cover of time magazine people for homosexual neurobiology! >it's the neuron cluster (INAH) that can maybe determine the sex of the person >late 80's!>gay men had half the neuron density>landmark! groundbreaking! >most of the men had died of aids, would that atrophy their brain? nobody knows >famous! political context!>scientist was a flaming homosexual >sold t shirts at pride parades with this brain region on it >hypothalamus region of the brain known for kidney regulation was twice the size in gay men!>scientists called nazis, received death threats, because they weren't gay >both regions of the brain were right next to each other and could pressure the other part hmm, kidney function?
>>543402092what the fuck does consent have to do with attraction?
>>543398972Maybe it can. Conversion therapy is only legal one way. If you convert a straight to a gay it's considered a success If you convert a gay to a straight it's considered a hate crime. We don't know if gay people can be fixed.
I doubt any of that can be cured, just managed.I can't be cured of lusting after women, I know that.I wish I could be, but it's not possible. The tank will refill, and I will always need some snatch. If I as a straight with no pressure on me at all throughout my life in regards to my sexuality can not even comprehend the concept of being able to change my sexuality, then I don't believe it's at all possible for people whose proclivities are potentially an actual problem for them.
>>543403159Rozen maiden fag, what a surprise.
>>543400882Explain in logical terms what a premise is, you illiterate baboon
>>543405729You must be over 18 to post on this board.
>>543398972Most people don't realize that 90% of all mental illnesses are terminal. That's the huge blackpill and why scientology is unironically right for the wrong reasons.Psychiatristd can only alleviate symptons. There isn't even a guarantee that every nutjob is able to live in society with treatment. As horrible as it sounds, but locking up people in asylums was the right call.
>>543405831shrinks love throwing pills at you for "regulation of symptoms" like good little cattle, if they said "society is poison" then you wouldn't be good cattle
>>543398972Homosexuality can be cursed with turpentine.
>>543398972>homosexualityCaused by parasites
>>543406134>we have these disorders in this handbook that nearly perfectly lays out the steps leading to homosexuality, maybe we should study it >lets burn itguess who
>>543405831This is trueEven if you gave psychiatric care to a schizo for 4 hours a day for 60 years, he would still be a schizo at the end of the day
>>543398972>psychiatric interventionThat's just called brainwashing.
>>543406399>I am not influenced by propaganda says the increasingly nervous labrat
>>543398972>If pedophilia can be cured with psychiatric helpFirst off who said this shit
>>543404827>you allow homosexualswe were first conquered then "we" allowed it. I could see travestites in Kuala Lumpur all the time 20 years ago - just started here.
>>543398972Because acceptance is the cure. The reason why we have so many homosexuals is because people who are generically homosexual had to be keep it secret, get a wife, and breed. Passing down their homosexual genes. If you accept homosexuals, then homosexuals won't feel forced to have kids and have sex with women and thus pass down their homosexual genes.Also, homosexuals tend to be very desirable men for women, by removing them from the marketplace, you increase your own odds of mating just because a reduction in the supply.
>>543405831>>543406247>>543405903So, when are you guys going to commit yourselves? Or are you going to pretend that you're somehow totally sane and normal?
>>543407445>then homosexuals won't feel forced to have kidsno, they will fuck someone else little boys and make homosexuals out of them. Best solution for your kind is remove you before you can reproduce or harm others.
>>543407569not that homosexuality is genetic as you're insinuating, but is best to be removed as early as possible
>>543403048You can't beat a demon anon
>>543398972>im anti homosexual>yet i promove anime like neon genesis which has lowkey homosexual overtunesRetard
>>543407518Hey man, it's fun to be edgy, but most people on this site are either low iq browns or talking shit. The people with genuine mental illnesess are like 1% of the populace and incredibly dumb.
>>543407445Nobody's saying it out loud, but homos aren't normal. That's just a biological fact. There's really few homos that are just born with it and only prefer guys. 90% of all practicing homos are just bi and lack any self respect. If a psychiatrist had to diagnose them without the rainbow filter, they'd probaly come to the conclusion that the brain chemistry is wires wrong and some kind of pill is required to dull the urged and rewire the brain to like women.But nobody's gonna do that.
>>543398972Both can be cured with castration.
>>543407518>SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UPmake me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM33Hr94SKw
>>543402092I reject consent as a criterion for normal sexuality or acceptable attraction. Homosexuality results in failed reproduction, which is not normal by any means. Try harder, (((faggot))).
>>543407872This >>543407445 reditor here is a faggot. Let see>Friedrich Heinrich Karl "Fritz" Haarmann (25 October 1879 – 15 April 1925) was a German serial killer, known as the Butcher of Hanover, the Vampire of Hanover and the Wolf-Man, who committed the sexual assault, murder, mutilation and dismemberment of at least 24 boys and young men between 1918 and 1924 in Hanover, Germany.>Ali Asghar Borujerdi, also known as Asghar the Murderer' (1893 – 26 June 1934) was the first Iranian serial killer and rapist reported in the 20th century. Moving to Iraq as a child with his family, he started assaulting, raping, and later murdering, adolescent boys in Baghdad when he was fourteen years old. Escaping back to Iran in 1933, he continued his murders in Tehran where he was eventually arrested and executed. Asghar-e Ghatel was convicted for raping and killing 33 young adults, eight in Tehran and the rest in Baghdad.>Andrei Romanovich Chikatilo (16 October 1936 – 14 February 1994) was a Ukrainian serial killer, nicknamed the Butcher of Rostov, the Red Ripper, and the Rostov Ripper, who sexually assaulted, murdered, and mutilated at least 52 women and children between 1978 and 1990 in the Russian SFSR, the Ukrainian SSR, and the Uzbek SSR. Chikatilo's career as a teacher ended in March 1981 following several complaints of child molestation against pupils of both sexes. His child and adolescent victims were of both sexes.>Dean Arnold Corll(December 24, 1939 – August 8, 1973) was an American serial killer who abducted, raped, tortured, and murdered at least 28 teenage boys and young men between 1970 and 1973 in Houston, Texas.
>>543408761>John Wayne Gacy (March 17, 1942 – May 10, 1994) was an American serial killer and sex offender known as the Killer Clown who assaulted and murdered at least 33 young men and boys. Gacy regularly performed at children's hospitals and charitable events as "Pogo the Clown" or "Patches the Clown", personas he had devised. He would typically lure a victim to his home, dupe him into donning handcuffs on the pretext of demonstrating a magic trick, then rape and torture his captive before killing him by either asphyxiation or strangulation with a garrote.>William George Bonin (January 8, 1947 – February 23, 1996), also known as the Freeway Killer, was an American serial killer and twice-paroled sex offender who committed the rape, torture, and murder of a minimum of 21 boys and young men in a series of killings in 1979 and 1980 in southern California. Bonin is also suspected of committing a further 15 murders.>Herbert Richard "Herb" Baumeister (April 7, 1947 – July 3, 1996) was an American suspected serial killer. A resident of Westfield, Indiana, Baumeister was under investigation for murdering over a dozen men in the early 1990s, most of whom were last seen at gay bars. Baumeister married Juliana "Julie" Saiter in November 1971, a union that produced three children.Julie later said they had been sexually intimate only six times in over 25 years of marriage.>Robert Andrew Berdella Jr. (January 31, 1949 – October 8, 1992) was an American serial killer, known as The Kansas City Butcher and The Collector, who kidnapped, raped, tortured, and murdered at least six men between 1984 and 1987 in Kansas City, Missouri after having forced his victims to endure periods of up to six weeks of captivity.
>>543408779>Arthur Gary Bishop (September 29, 1952 – June 10, 1988) was an American convicted sex offender and serial killer. He confessed to the murders of five young boys in 1983, as a result of a routine police investigation.>Larry William Eyler (December 21, 1952 – March 6, 1994) was an American serial killer who is believed to have murdered a minimum of twenty-one teenage boys and young men in a series of killings committed between 1982 and 1984 in the Midwestern States. When he reached puberty, Eyler discovered he was homosexual.>Javed Iqbal Umayr (1956 – 8 October 2001), was a Pakistani serial killer who confessed to the sexual abuse and murder of 100 boys, ranging in age from 6 to 16.>Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 – November 28, 1994), also known as the Milwaukee Cannibal or the Milwaukee Monster, was an American serial killer and sex offender who committed the murder and dismemberment of 17 men and boys from 1978 to 1991. Many of his later murders involved necrophilia, cannibalism, and the permanent preservation of body parts—typically all or part of the skeleton.>Francisco das Chagas Rodrigues de Brito (born 1965 in Maranhão) is a Brazilian serial killer and former mechanic, responsible for the deaths of at least 30 children in Maranhão and Pará, notably emasculating his victims. In his crimes, the murderer, who exhibited psychopathic characteristics (sought to justify himself, lacked pity and lied), sexually abused his victims and, after killing them, mutilated them by cutting off their ears, fingers and then emasculating them.
>>543407648Have you ever tried?
>>543408824>Ramadan Abdel Rehim Mansour (1980 – 2010), also known as "al-Tourbini" was an Egyptian street gang leader and serial killer who raped and murdered at least 32 children in the course of seven years, throughout several locations in Egypt including Cairo, Alexandria, Qalyoubeya and Beni Sueif. All of his victims were 10 to 14 years old, most of them boys.>Luis Garavito - child-murderer, torture-killer, and rapist known as "La Bestia" ("The Beast"). Confessed to killing 140 boys between eight and 16 years old over a seven-year period in Colombia and neighboring countries. He is suspected of murdering over 300 victims, mostly street children. Was sentenced to 1,853 years in prison, but was later reduced to 22 years.>Pedro López- child-murderer and rapist, known as "The Monster of the Andes". Targeted young girls, between the ages of eight and 12. Arrested in 1980 and convicted in 1983 of killing three young girls, but claimed to have killed hundreds. Despite being believed to be one of the most prolific serial killers of the twentieth century, he was released in the late 1990s.(((acceptance))) just made these lone and rare predators into a hundreds of thousands strong predatory network traficking, abusing and murdering kids worldwide.
>>543402983They say a lot of silly things.
>>543398972who says pedophilia can be cured?preventing child abuse in the first place is the best strategy. MAPs should be able to get counseling and the chain of abuse needs to stop, which will prevent more abuse in the futureif you think that not giving counseling to MAPs is wrong, and we should just wait til a child is abused, THEN punish the pedo, you're retarded and you should kill yourself immediately
>>543409116*that giving counseling to MAPs is wrong*
>>543399714You read the story wrong. Kaworu was asexual. He was an angel. He acted weirdly because he didn't have human standards and when he spoke of love he meant humanity as a whole.
>>543398972Pedophilia can't be cured with psychiatric help.
>>543398972I don't know why you have shinji in your picture but he was not a fan of gays. He was even cruel against kowaru in the manga. The only point was that, to accept him anyway, which he did, and then crushed him.
>>543407569But even if they molest kids. The molested kid, even if he becomes gay won't pass down the gay genes. Because he is only gay for social reasons, not genetic, and also won't have kids.
>>543407872Bi men are more uncommon then gay men, and most bi men are just desperate straight men who are willing to pick their dick in any mouth.
>>543408868Now write a list of all the straight serial killers.
>>543409762>what is proportional
>>543398972Fags and pedos are one in the same. They infiltrated the psychiatric community back in the 50s and 60s and sabotaged the fledgling science so that they could continue their degeneracy without hiding it. Their goals are now too make pedophilia as acceptable as homosexuality.
>>543400882Well, some faggs stay together as a couple for years, this alone shows its not a fetish
>>543398972I dont think it can? Its used to Manage it.I think i know this through osmosis: they use libido supressors if its bad enough.
>>543399701
>>543409208nah nigga was gay
>>543410098You didn't get the story
>>543409852>Their goals are now too make pedophilia as acceptable as homosexuality.People here have been fearmongering about this for over a decade and it still hasn't happened.This is the stupidest prediction because the pedophiles at the top don't need it to be legal to enjoy it, and homopedos and browns just do it anyway regardless. In fact, it being illegal actually ENHANCES their enjoyment of it due to it being forbidden fruit.
>>543398972Kill yourself OP but first your wife and kids
>>543409847Proportions eh? I'm pretty sure white people are the only ones to enslave an entire race and almost completely wipe out another one. If anyone looks proportionally like cartoon villains...
>>543409762Wikipedia had a list of ALL important serial killers you smelly faggot, and pedophile pederasts were the MAJORITY and the most prolific on that list so first they put a disclaimer (not to be used to promote bigotry bla, bla) then remove it all together. Keep eating shit from dicks and and consider it normal. Just kill yourself and your jewish partners too.
>>543410471>white peoplejews are not white
>but were talking about the attraction not the actThat's fucking retarded and borders on thought crime policing, but there isn't even a crime, it's just finding dudes hot.
>>543410627Blah blah blah, post it faggot.
>>543402968thats what molly tibbets thought too, until reality came calling
>>543410738Billions could be saved, decades of wasted years taken back and millions of kids saved if your kind would be fed into ovens to heat our homes. No homos, no issues on that side of the problem (which is judaism at large)
>>543409762>jew attempting jew magiche doesnt have to do what you say moshe
If there's a cure, why doesn't Russia, China, Iran or any of /pol/s other favorite country tell the world about it? Why is everyone keeping it a secret?
>>543398972Can it though? How does one even develop pedophilia in the first place?
>>543410894turn on the light in any thread and see cockroaches running back to the sewers
>>543412022see >>543413128. Talmud values (not that torah is not full of shit)then many of their victims become so mentally scared that they start doing it themselves.
>>543413128based jew
>>543398972>If homosexuality can be cured with psychiatric help, why can't homosexuality?FTFY. All pedophiles are faggots. If you are not gay and think yourself a pedophile, you have been gaslit.
>>543413128lol wait so it's kosher to poke people in the eye as long as no permanent damage?
>>543413306>In the Talmud (specifically Ketubot 11b and Niddah 5:4), the phrase "like putting a finger in the eye" is a legal metaphor used to describe sexual intercourse with a girl younger than three years and one dayBy Iegal they mean their degenerate ways to conduct life. A poke in the eye do not apply to genital mutilation of boy toddlers as it seems foreskin will not grow back as toddler girls girly parts. This was tested again and again over 2 millenia and is established science.
>>543398972>pedophilia can be cured with psychiatric helpKek who told you that lie???
>>543398972Pedophilia can only be cured by an axe and a wooden block.
>>543414836sounds like you're projecting. want to chop your dick off, tranny?
>>543398972Pedophilia is not curable by psychiatry.
>>543415090Seems like you went the webm related and all you can do is projecting guilt. Is all your fault and no, you're not a woman just a sad eunuch looking like crap.
