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This is a black pill none of you are ready for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0C157Wmm6E

Democratic “Socialists” of America originate from the exact same roots as Neoconservatives. Specifically, they grew out of anti-populist and anti-Leninist tendencies AND Western chauvinism against Third World countries implementing Marxist-Leninist governments to gain their sovereignty. They are "Third Camp" Trotskyists. Both Irving Kristol and Michael Harrington were disciples of Trotskyist Max Shachtman and this legacy is carried by the DSA today.

The ideology is also the same. Neocons despise ordinary people. Most neocons were former Trotskyists and Trotsky, likewise, HATED the working-class. Likewise, the godfather of Neoconservatism Leo Strauss saw himself and his students/cult followers as philosopher kings. This is largely because neoconservatism is an expression of Jewish supremacy. Jews believe they are the "CHOSEN PEOPLE" and seek to preserve their ethnocentrism and tribalism against the universal brotherhood of man brought into the world by Christ. You can't separate these things.

The Straussian cabal is very real and still holds loads of ideological power within American politics. It's my opinion that the DSA, in spite of claiming to be "anti-Zionist" and "anti-imperialist," are simply the next incarnation of the Neocons and will follow the exact Neocon playbook once elected. It's a known fact that many Neocons from the Bush II era have now since become Democrats and publicly supported Kamala Harris over Trump on the basis Trump wasn't Neocon enough (Bill Kristol comes to mind here). This must be exposed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNYidsuhaKY
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>>543405851
>Trotsky

Nice try. That’s literally Sam Hyde.
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>>543406327
Fuck, I'm never going to unsee that.
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>>543405851
The DSA only mission is to flood the country with Muslims. Plain and simple. In a better world, every last Muslim man would be castrated by blade and their women made infertile. Also Gas all Kikes too. May White have dominion over the Earth!
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>>543405851
>will follow the exact Neocon playbook once elected.
no shit Sherlock. Their supposedly subversive agenda is to give the government way more power.
>It's a known fact that many Neocons from the Bush II era have now since become Democrats
The guy who actually wrote the famous PNAC white paper, Thomas Donnelly, is a tranny now. He goes by "Giselle".
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>>543405851
The implications being that conservatism was ever beneficial for anyone but judeochristianity.
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>>543406531
You're literally the first person to even mention conservatism in the thread. The onus is upon you to explain what the fuck you think you're talking about.
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>>543406455
They will bomb Muslim countries and attack China and Russia if elected.
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>>543405851
That is true, in that once they capture the federal government, that they will use it for islamo-trans imperialism. Especially in Europe given the bubbling far-right. That's the next big thing, a Mamdani-like neo-Obama condemning not just Orban for deporting a few muslims, but the entire continent for chimping out against all of the muslims as a whole. Trump is trying to help them out by advancing their position so that they can exert pressure from up top via the GIUK gap, or normalizing third worldist garbage like Ceuta which will be amplified on steroids under a blue president. It's all working together as a well-oiled machine where one party covers for the other and where Trump will accidentally say that Mamdani is cool and has "great potential" because the DSA winning is all a part of the plan.

But they're not defined by the foreign policy as much as the internal antifascist suppression. They're being promoted because the American elite (jews) saw all of the Hitler worship posts on xitter and decided that it's time for the self-preservation instinct to kick in. Whatever Hitler was to a 20s Germany industrialist, the DSA is to a 20s America Wall Streeter who is afraid of being pogrommed. It will start off as domestic antifascism promoted and merged into the top companies like woke 1.0/OWS was, quickly realize that all of the nazi stuff is coming from Europe and not the white Americans, attempt to branch out here to stop it from spreading, fail, and only then will it turn into a trooned out neocon warhawk and maybe even a second FDR.
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>>543405851
That just makes it funny that our progressives have become so insufferable the Democrats would rather serve as a neocon refuge than continuously put up with their antics.
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>>543405851
This part is bullshit. Strauss was not a neocon; he was a scholar first, and he hardly wrote anything about foreign policy. He and his students didn’t think of themselves as philosopher kings. Where did you even get that part, lmao? I’ve said this on other boards, and I’ll say it again that not all neocons were Straussians, and not all Straussians were neocons
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>>543406624
figure it out, im not your daddy.
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>>543407761
>posts what seems to be a complete nonsequitor
>gets asked what the fuck?
>insists that everyone else is stupid for not getting it
I don't know what I expected, but you still managed to disappoint me. Odds are you don't actually have a point.
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>>543405851
>WHERE DID THE NEOCONS COME FROM?
Athens and Jerusalem

If you don’t understand what I’m talking about, you’re not qualified to speak on this topic.
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jews? yeah, thanks for the grand revelation you fucking faggot
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>>543405851
That's so retarded I didn't even read your post. Neocons are neocons. DSA are satanic antiwhite bolsheviks.
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>>543405851
>keep calm
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>>543408602
Neocons are Jewish supremacists and therefore anti-white as well.

Leo Strauss was a Jewish supremacist.

Irving Kristol was a Jewish supremacist.

His son Bill is a Jewish supremacist.

POWER OF NIGHTMARES
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3Gc

A VERY HEAVY AGENDA (PNAC + 9/11)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mbaAPILY8XmM/

Zionist Jew YouTuber: "Claiming Jews were behind Iraq War is 'BLOOD LIBEL.'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUA2Sy3jAZE&t=6013s
(1:40:13)

>"oy vey goyim, let us lie and deceive the public and give us the oil and let us establish a rothschild bank"
They aren't even making an effort to hide it anymore.

Total neocon death
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What is the difference between neocons and republicans now?
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>>543408760
Neocons are Jewish supremacists who seek to destroy America and establish a messianic global empire ruled by philosopher kings similar to what's said in Plato.
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>>543408891
>Neocons are Jewish supremacists who seek to destroy America and establish a messianic global empire ruled by philosopher kings similar to what's said in Plato.
No, they don’t.
Most neoconservative foreign policy is either rooted in Israeli political realism or in the belief that liberalism represents the end of history and that any system opposed to liberalism is therefore wrong and should be removed. Stop making their goals look mystified.
Also, you spammed this same bullshit on another thread the other day.
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/25527357
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>>543406327
FPBP
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>>543409234
>Also, you spammed this same bullshit on another thread the other day.
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/25527357

Strauss was an evil man. The people on /lit/ caping for him are merely Claremont Institute shills, probably paid.
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god you people are fucking retarded. i swear, you better be trolling.
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>>543407758
>Where did you even get that part, lmao?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNYidsuhaKY
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>>543406987
>>543408713
>>543408891
>>543409671
you're retarded and love regurgitating word soups. trotsky was the opposite of conservative

trotsky, lenin and marx specifically were against any kind of ethnic supremacy or ethnostates. the communist manifesto specifically opposes ethnostates. retard.
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>>543409767
Marx and Lenin were staunchly against Jew supremacy but Trotsky was a full-blown Jewish supremacist and Zionist.
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>>543409713
You are a fucking retard. Strauss was not a “philosophical irrationalist” by any means. He was deeply concerned with the manifestation of moral relativism in the West, which he rightfully pointed out lead to nihilism, and lambasted what he believed were its modern sources in historicism and positivism. You and Caleb Maupin need to fucking READ A BOOK on the subject before speaking.
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>>543409948
Explain what esoteric writing is then. Is there any clearer example of elites trying to deceive the masses?
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>>543405851
I'm 100% certain this idea was discussed long ago and accepted, which is why we say uniparty. But specifically the neocon aspect.
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>>543409671

>The people on /lit/ caping for him are merely Claremont Institute shills, probably paid
Lol, lmao. Take your meds, schizo. Nobody is paying anyone to be a shill on a board used by 100 dudes. I actually made that thread, and a chunk of the entire thread consists of posts by me. But Claremont didn’t pay me, though.
Anyways,fuck claremont
>>543409713
Holy shit. You conspiratards are retarded.
>woah,the charging bull statue is ackshually the golden calf from the bible
Lol,lmao
And the anon(>>543409948) is right. Caleb maupin is a retard.
>>543410185
Strauss’s concept of esoteric writing has nothing to do with elites trying to deceive the masses. It is more about analyzing political texts. Political philosophers in the past were more likely to face persecution for their ideas, and for this reason, they sometimes expressed certain ideas in an esoteric way to avoid persecution. Strauss tried to uncover and interpret these ideas. There’s nothing about elites deceiving the masses here.
Strauss wasn’t a bad man. I don’t know why he gets portrayed as some kind of evil person.
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>>543405851
Why does Maupin always portray Trotsky like he’s satanic?
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>>543410702
Neocons exist in Bangladesh?

>>woah,the charging bull statue is ackshually the golden calf from the bible
>Lol,lmao
It's not about the bull. It's about how the ruling elite use satanic imagery in order to mock the masses of people who do believe in right and wrong and have a strong sense of justice and morality.

>Strauss’s concept of esoteric writing has nothing to do with elites trying to deceive the masses.

It absolutely does. His entire agenda (which was the same agenda as Theodor Adorno, Hannah Arendt, Susan Sontag and others) was that the broad masses of people pose a threat to the power of the intellectuals, so intellectual elites must deceive the masses so the masses don't overthrow them. This is very plainly spelled out by their anti-populism. Strauss and the rest saw themselves as philosopher kings and, as is stated in Plato's Republic, had to tell noble lies to keep the masses subservient. The neocon agenda exemplifies this perfectly.
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>>543411127
Because Trotsky was the epitome of satanic.
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>>543409713
Here:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rcZEqlMDah8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=l0s2ntgZJAg

Strauss’ top disciple Harry Jaffa was a gigantic moralfag too.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sbhE21FSZBs

>inb4 Claremont shill
No. Not a shill. Just interested in the truth.
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>>543412061
Why are you defending this guy? Are you a Jewish supremacist who hates the masses of people too?
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>>543405851
>Trotsky, likewise, HATED the working-class
Did he? Why?
>the universal brotherhood of man brought into the world by Christ
That was an interesting post until the kike on a stick part.
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>>543412473
Christ is LORD.
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>>543412491
He was merely a schizo jew.
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>>543405851
Prove Mamdani is a neocon.
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>>543412565
Mamdani opposes China, Russia and Iran. His wife is an anti-Assad Syrian who was raised in Dubai.
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Im convinced lenin is the socratese of political thought.
Everything seems to be based on him
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>>543406327
Sam Hyde is Trotsky's great-great grandson.
>>543405851
Hasan Piker and DSA are more like Stalin.
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>>543406987
Dumb
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I’m in the DSA and I have never met a Trotskyist. Plenty of Marxists and Marxist-Leninists

We are not managed by a secret cabal. We elect all of our leadership from the local to the national
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>>543411453
>Neocons exist in Bangladesh?
I am not a Neocon. I am just saying that strauss wasn’t a Neocon
>It's not about the bull. It's about how the ruling elite use satanic imagery in order to mock the masses of people who do believe in right and wrong and have a strong sense of justice and morality.

Anon, his entire video is built around speculation. One could speculate about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s “NECESSARILY” true.

>It absolutely does. His entire agenda (which was the same agenda as Theodor Adorno, Hannah Arendt, Susan Sontag and others) was that the broad masses of people pose a threat to the power of the intellectuals, so intellectual elites must deceive the masses so the masses don't overthrow them. This is very plainly spelled out by their anti-populism. Strauss and the rest saw themselves as philosopher kings and, as is stated in Plato's Republic, had to tell noble lies to keep the masses subservient. The neocon agenda exemplifies this perfectly.

1) Strauss never said that intellectuals should always deceive the masses. His main point was that this is what they did. He isn’t telling people what to do; he’s describing what used to be done. Just like saying that people used to live in mud huts doesn’t mean that we should live in mud huts, Strauss saying that thinkers used to write esoterically doesn’t mean that they should always do it.
2) Strauss wasn’t like Adorno or Sontag in any sense. In fact, one could argue that he was the antithesis of them. Strauss consistently argued against moral relativism in the West, whereas the other Marxist scums wanted more of it.
3) And no, not all neocons were Straussian, nor were all Straussians neocons. In fact, most neoconservatives weren’t Straussian.
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>>543413091
>>543412565
Mamdani is a jewish plant. The Al Sayed is not.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezss_YGKJLo
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>>543413274
Abdul El-Sayed.
Mamdani is a jew plant to make Muslims look bad.
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>>543413247
Which city/chapter are you in?
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>>543413258
>Strauss consistently argued against moral relativism in the West, whereas the other Marxist scums wanted more of it.

Marxism believes in objective moral truth. In other words, we reject the idea that there ought to be one set of rules for intellectual elites and another for the masses of people.
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>>543413370
I’m not going to dox myself
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=t-gH7Waedtk
The sad thing is that there is something rather charming about the interviews Bill Kristol does on his channel, despite Kristol himself being a total arrogant jackass.
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>>543413702
Kristol knew about 9/11. PNAC "NEW PEARL HARBOR" is all you need to know.
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>>543413702
I hate both of them. But still, the video looks comfy.
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>>543413274
>>543413287
Mamdani is being funded by a rich Jewish nepo baby. It's a known fact Mamdani is a Malthusian who wants all New Yorkers to be equally poor.
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>>543413702
>>543414882
Why do you defend Strauss?

Why do you believe he was "based?"
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>>543405851
damn this actually makes a lot of sense.
so the us has already being subverted by communism but it is an anti-soviet/anti-stalin communism. They gained power in the government and then started writing its foreign policy. Thats why neocons hated the ussr/russia so much. Also the jewish supremacists probably want revenge for all the pogroms that russia did.



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