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>At their state dinner in Washington on Thursday, both Xi and Trump lauded how their countries fought together in the war.

>A White House fact sheet following the summit said Trump and Xi recalled that the US and China "were allies in World War Two and fought side by side to win the war".

>Democratically governed Taiwan says the version of events Beijing is promoting is distorted, given that the Republic of China was the government at the time, fighting alongside the Allies.

>Taiwan Deputy Foreign Minister Francois Wu said Beijing wanted to overwrite the "true history".

>Taiwan will continue to convey messages to the US so it "correctly understands that during the entire World War Two process, the Republic of China was America's steadfast ally", he added.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/taiwan-pushes-back-after-xi-seeks-win-over-trump-world-war-two-narrative-2026-09-28/
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>>543407435
>the Republic of China was the government at the time
So what? Most of them defected and joined the winner of the civil war.
Their decendents in the communist party today today actually can claim their forefathers fought in the war.

Islander butthurt is fake and gay.
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>>543407435
The commies were also aligned with the US. Who is this retard trying to fool?
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>>543407435
YELLOW PERIL FUCK CHYNA FUCK CHINKS
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>>543407435
Shut up kike dog
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>>543407435
Taiwan was a Japanese colony at the time. Mainland Chinese fought the Japanese.
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>>543407713
The communists hid during the war so they could do a revolution after. Pathetic insect peoples
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>>543410408
kek the US marines literally learned unit doctrine from the Chinese Communists. US Marine major Evans Carlson followed the PLA fighting against the Japanese, and brought the doctrine back to the US.
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China have been US ally in WWI and in WWII. Peaceful becoming to USA and PRC made possible by unifying bilateral peace forever. Make no mistake of Taiwan.
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We won't be there next time. Learn some CCP patriotic songs.
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>>543407435
>schools
>taiwan

They're about to cease to exist, oops! Guess only US' interpretation is about to exist now! Sucks to suck
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>>543407435
History is written by the victors and unfortunately the communist hyenas came down from the hills they were hiding in and took china after the war. They didn't fight but they still took over, it's a dirty underhanded win but it's still a win.
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>>543413245
>History is written by the victors
China is still the good guys, whereas the Mutts slaughtered the south koreans after they won, and hid it from the news press.
ROC are similar to Usa and Japan, the ROC slaughtered the natives in Taiwan and stole their land.

https://www.tiktok.com/@natehyung/video/7666921559923199263
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>>543413245
there's a little more to it than just commies waited for the federalists republicans and royalists to wear each other out lol
i swear there was a fifth faction i'm forgetting
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Last I checked, KMT is no longer the ruling party for ROC, and Chiang is vilified by modern Taiwanese (good).
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>>543410408

The CCP not only hid in the mountains during WW2, but they actively sabotaged Chinese efforts to fight Japan. They'd often promise supplies and support and then the Chinese army would turn up and find nothing and be forced to fight the Japanese army on their own.

Infact, Mao literally thanked Japan for invading China and said without them the CCP would have never taken control of China.
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>>543409925
Yeah this is the reality.

The grandparents of 9/10 of Taiwanese people were still Japanese during WW2.

The history of Taiwan (most people in the west probably don’t know) is
Conquered by Qing Dynasty
Becomes part of Japan in 1895
Japan loses WW2
Taiwan becomes part of the ROC
ROC govt loses the civil war and flees to Taiwan
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TW dogs need to be culled.

Hope the one after Xi simply sends bombs and drones.
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>>543415298
Direct invasion is just asking TSMC engineers to get kidnapped by the USA.
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Kek trump fucked up our reputation so bad he has to use ww2 to scrape for any chance at equal footing with chinks. Its joever. We are 3rd world jeets now. I bet even the jeets will surpass us at this point.
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>>543415193
>>543410408

Again this is pretty meaningless because most of the KMT either defected and joined the PLA or went to reeducation camps and then became PRC citizens after the war.

Modern day CCP = Descendants of both CCP and KMT

Just as modern day heritage Americans are descendants of both the Union and Confederate soldiers.
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>>543409925
Yes, but current-day Taiwan considers itself to be the acktchually real legitimate leadership of the Chinese mainland. That’s why Taiwan said the Republic of China (which is the Taiwanese government) and not the People’s Republic of China (the Chinese government).
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>>543415379
Good, tell them to gtfo, also take those expats and paid shills back.
Otherwise face death through bombs and drones.
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>>543415707
Current day TW dogs think they are Japs.

They need some severe beating.
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>>543409925
This is the illogical nonsense that ensues when governmental types are more important than blood and soil.
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>>543407435
All four of Taiwan President William Lai’s grandparents were Japanese citizens during WW2.

Rather perverse to try to claim the high ground through WW2, isn’t it?
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>>543415707
After the mainland expelled the Japanese, they expelled the ROC government.
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>>543415707
> Yes, but current-day Taiwan considers itself to be the acktchually real legitimate leadership of the Chinese mainland

No they don’t. Which makes the whole thing even more absurd and dishonest.
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>>543415843
Yeah ROC not accepting that the Chinese people chose the PRC instead of them and that's why they lost the civil war, but instead of accepting the will of the people they want to collaborate with foreign enemies and serve as a proxy against their own blood and soil.
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>>543416027
Modern day ROC accepts the fact that Chinese people chose the PRC.

They just want to be ruled by the PRC themselves.
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>>543415951
Yes they do, and they have to. Abandoning that claim is de facto separation, which diplomatically is a rejection of the possibility of peaceful reunification and makes hot reunification the only option.
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>>543416210
Modern day Taiwan absolutely does NOT consider itself to be the real legitimate rulers of China.
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>>543416170
>They just want to be ruled by the PRC themselves.
Sorry, but that's really not for losers of a civil war to decide. Imagine if the South decided "we just want to rule our selves" and decided to end the civil war by having a referendum for independence. Like nigga, did you forget what this is all about?
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>>543415877
>All four of Taiwan President William Lai’s grandparents were Japanese
grok, is this true?

It's wierd tho him being a japan apologist tho.
> tho this needs citation/source
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>>543416327
They'd have to be delusional to think they actually are, but diplomatically that's the pretense they need to maintain. Separatism would trigger non-peaceful reunification.
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>>543416361
The overwhelming majority of Taiwanese people’s parents or grandparents or great grandparents were Japanese citizens during WW2.

Taiwan was part of Japan from 1895 until 1945. As a result of Japan losing WW2, Taiwan was annexed by the ROC in 1945. Taiwanese had their citizenship changed from Japanese to Chinese in 1945.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrocession_of_Taiwan
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>>543415259
Don't forget the terror perpetrated on the Taiwanese by Chang Kai-shek's government
Oddly he still appears on their money and they still have a big monument to him in the capital
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>>543416327
>Modern day Taiwan absolutely does NOT consider itself to be the real legitimate rulers of China.
Bullshit. That has been the one china policy since they became a government in exile
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>>543407435
We should never have handed these chinks our chip manufacturing.
We should take it back, bomb all their infrastructure, and hand the island back to China. I'm tired of having to suffer just so some rich jews can save on labor.
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>>543407713
Better feel nothing than red commie
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>>543416827
>ROC lets Japanese occupiers and collaborators remain in China after the war
Bunch of dogs.
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>>543416330
The issue really is that almost no Taiwanese were actually involved in the Chinese Civil War and most Taiwanese did not support either side. They just had the bad luck of living in the island the losers decided to use as their base to “reclaim the mainland”

The equivalent would be like if some small group of the Confederates fled to Cuba or Puerto Rico. Took the place over, slaughtered anybody that tried to resist and made everybody speak Southern American English take Anglo names, etc.
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>>543416924
You can literally just go to their government website. Their position that neither Taiwan (ROC) nor China (PRC) are subordinate to each other is pretty clearly laid out.
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>>543410408
/thread
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>>543407435
Thanks Ben Benchod, very cool!
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>>543416848
Indeed. There’s periodically talk of removing his statue but it always ends up getting blocked by his supporters.
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Why is Trump sucking off chinks now is America broke or sonething
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>>543417208
Don’t /thread retarded posts.
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>>543417293
Thats why i have ignored all your posts chang.
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>>543416827
>during WW2
They were Chinese citizens before they became occupied by Japan.
The majority of DNA in Taiwan is from Fujian province in China. Not from Japan.

See how your own argument can be reversed and used right back at you, Mutt?
That's because you use deception and manipulation.
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>>543407435
No shit, it's state propaganda from China that the CPC that they did anything to fight the Japanese. They spent most the war being fags and sabotaging the ROC.

But if you say that to them in a diplomatic setting they get shitty.
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>>543409925
>Taiwan was a Japanese colony at the time
And the ROC relocated their post war. That's where most Taiwanese come from.
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>>543417367
>No shit, it's state propaganda from China that the CPC did anything to fight the Japanese
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>>543417367
>But if you say that to them in a diplomatic setting
Why would you side with RoC to begin with?
They are evil cunts just like Qin.

Today's China could never be achieved by RoC.
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>>543417054
9/10 Taiwanese people are descended from “Japanese collaborators”. They would have had to completely depopulate the entire island.
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>>543417444
>Today's China could never be achieved by RoC.
Nigger Taiwan is fine.
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>>543407435
Taiwan was an Imperial Japanese outpost at the time so lol
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Xi is weak.

TW needs to droned, hardcore.
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>>543407435
Democratic Chinese did fuck all in ww2 but got raped by japanese then when soviets came to save them they ran away onto that island and larped as champions since then.
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>>543417484
Where the Republic of China moved to.
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>>543417512
There were no “Democratic Chinese” in WW2. The ROC was a dictatorship.

Taiwan became a democracy in 1996
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>>543417512
>Democratic Chinese did fuck all in ww2
They achieved fuck all but fought harder than most the allied nations.
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>>543417444
China would be a far better place if mao had died in a ditch on the long march. Its a dystopian hellhole now.
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>>543417474
>Taiwan is fine.
Nah, it only took China 30 years to outpace the island niggers.

Nowhere in the world is as fine as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-PlLlC_j1Y
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>>543407713
Imagine being all uppity when you're a hideous, indistinguishable chinsect from the other billion, and you eat literally every living creature on earth, cooked in human sewage.
All Asians' subhuman brains are exponentially worsened by their disgusting subhuman diets.
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>>543417604
Honestly it's better than the US in a lot of ways, that's the most depressing part
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>>543417604
>if mao had died
Fortunately he won.

And the traitor who married a western educated [[[[christian]]]] lost the civil war. It's why you have been programmed by your master to seethe so much at Mao.
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>>543407435
It is so cute that they're jealous. I love Taiwan
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>>543417610
>Nah, it only took China 30 years to outpace the island niggers.
No? Taiwan is better than the majority of China.
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>>543417662
>lost the civil war
Taiwan isn't controlled by the CPC.
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>>543417700
>No?
Yes.
There is garbage litter everywhere in Taiwan foodstalls.
They don't even have robots to clean the streets.

That's what happens to losers who side with westerners.
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>>543417660
How much of that is down to niggers and spics?
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>>543417752
>There is garbage litter everywhere in Taiwan foodstalls
No.

And mainland China is way worse for litter.
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>>543417734
>Taiwan isn't controlled
They lose their sea territory to the phillipines all the time and have their fishermen killed by the phillipines.
The island cucks can only meekly protest like a bitch while the mainwand will send warships to scare off the monkeys.
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>>543410408
sounds like another case of we lost the war because we are scared of caves. Like with Cartels, The Viet Cong and how can we forget their moist humiliating defeat: Afghanistan. Grow some balls white man and stop sucking jewish ones.
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>>543417097
>The equivalent would be like if some small group of the Confederates fled to Cuba or Puerto Rico.
It's not. Cuba is a foreign sovereign territory. The island of Taiwan has been a province of China for longer than America has been a country, and the majority of the population has been Han Chinese for centuries.

You're right that ROC were cunts when they showed up. Unsurprisingly the Chinese in Taiwan didn't want them anymore than the mainlanders did. They also pressganged a lot of boys before they ran off to Taiwan, kidnapping them so they'll never see their family again cause they don't want to admit they lost the civil war.
https://x.com/uncleTomat0/status/2099656190494126429
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>>543417799
>And mainland China is way worse for litter.
See>>543417610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-PlLlC_j1Y
Clean everywhere.

>No.
Wrong, you are goddamn pigs at the foodstall sidewalks.
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>>543417823
>They lose their sea territory to the phillipines
No they don't, Taiwan doesn't claim it's territorial waters extend to the fucking Philippines.
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>>543417520
A (very) rough analogy would be something like Communist East Germany claiming credit for beating the Nazis in WW2.

The East German government was technically formed in Moscow by German communists living in exile during WW2. They fought for the Allies during the war.

But after the war this small group of German communists were now ruling over a population that had all been Nazis.

That’s very roughly the equivalent of Taiwan’s situation postwar. Small group of nationalists who had fought against the Japanese ruling over an island full of “Japanese collaborators” who had supported the Axis.
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>>543417915
>No they don't,
<-You are a liar and a cuck

>Taiwan doesn't claim
The RoC invented the 11 dash line.
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>>543417871
>See
I do not care for your lies Communist. It's the most common knowledge about modern China is how shit the litter is.
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>>543418001
>do not care for your lies Communist
It's a brit telling you China is awesome, and that you suck because you're a shitty butthurt islander.
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>>543417836
Well not exactly, Taiwan had been Japanese territory for 50 years. It only came into ROC possession in 1945, a mere four years before the ROC fled there.

The population was quite alien and quickly became hostile to the ROC carpetbaggers.
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>>543417660
Its not
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>>543417662
>seethe so much at Mao.
Why would anyone seethe at the based destroyer of 40M bugoids? He's my favorite chink of all time.
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>>543418102
>40M
Wasn't it 150 goprillion, kike?
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>>543417981
>The RoC invented the 11 dash line.
Yeah, in 1947. They adopted a different map when they left China for Taiwan in 1949.

Because no shit they had to adapt to territorial changes.
>Filipinos murder Taiwanese fisherman.
Which was fully with Filipino territorial waters.

Not even disputed borders.
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>>543418043
>It's a brit
Disgusting.
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>>543418138
Chunk always die in vast numbers. Its just their bug nature.
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>>543418138
It's 40 to 80 million depending how much responsibility you give him for the pest eradication scheme.
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>>543417455
9/10 of the population wasn't involved in the colonial administration of Taiwan. And even if there are lots, being many isn't a get out of jail free card. Forget about dealing with collaborators, they didn't even deal with the occupiers, instead they became their new collaborators.
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>>543418154
>Yeah,
So you cuck islanders did indeed claim that territory.
But only China can enforce it.

>Because no shit they had to adapt to territorial changes.
No, moron.
"terrirotial changes" just means the enemy stole from you.
You kill the monkeys who steal territory from you,
you don't cuck to their demands, you goddamn KEK
LMAO
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>>543418263
>So you cuck islanders did indeed claim that territory.
No they don't, they dropped it in 1949.
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>>543418138
>only kikes hate chinks
Fucking lol @ this level of naivety.
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>>543417836
> You're right that ROC were cunts when they showed up. Unsurprisingly the Chinese in Taiwan didn't want them anymore than the mainlanders did. They also pressganged a lot of boys before they ran off to Taiwan, kidnapping them so they'll never see their family again cause they don't want to admit they lost the civil war.

Nothing to add to really except this made sense to them at the time, as terrible as it seems. They were not going to Taiwan to live there. They intended to use it as a base to retake China. Grabbing young boys off the street as you retreated serve a dual purpose of providing future soldiers for you and depriving the enemy
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>>543418238
>for the pest eradication scheme
And what if I don't believe anything the anglokike claim?
Not now, and not from the past.

What if I told you they were just as big liars in the past as they are today?
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>>543418043
We all know youre not British.
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>>543418290
>they dropped it
And China is the only one who can enfore it.

You islanders cucks will keep "adjusting to terrirotial changes" until you have no territory left.
Do you have enough brainpower to foresee what will happen, Cuck?
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>>543418344
What if i told you that a shitskin rejecting facts because he wants to vibe is a totally normal and ordinary occurrence?
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>>543418344
>And what if I don't believe anything the anglokike claim?
Then you're retarded, it was Lysenko's final act of retardation and was covered heavily in the Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Union.
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>>543418377
The youtuber I linked to, moron Mutt.
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>>543418425
>And China is the only one who can enfore it.
No they can't, it's international waters. They fuck off out of there everytime.

And Taiwan wouldn't consider it their territory anyway, since 1949.
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>>543418443
>Then you're retarded,
Nah, even your own people don't believe anything you spew anymore.
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>>543418452
>Linking yidtube
Back to discord troon
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>>543407713
There's more to it than that: the government of Chiang Kai Shek fought by our side, and today in Formosa the party of Chiang Kai Shek (KMT) favors reunification.
I have no idea why you commie retards don't point out this current state of affairs, and prefer the less-relevant swordplay of historical revisionism.
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>>543418508
>even your own people
Ok, why did the Soviets and now the Russian Federation consider Lysenko's assistance in the pest eradication plan an abject failure?
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>>543418494
>No they can't, it's international waters
Phillipinos can be killed easily.
Thosemonkeys you are so afraid of, China can deal with them.

>And Taiwan wouldn't consider it their territory anyway, since 1949.
That's because you are cucks who will keep "adjusting to terrirotial changes" until you have no territory left.
Do you have enough brainpower to foresee what will happen given enough time, Cuck?
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>>543418598
>Phillipinos can be killed easily
Yet China doesn't.
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>>543418154
Filipino territory is clearly defined in the treaty in the Treaty of Paris when Spain ceded the territory to the US. The Philippines has no claim to anything beyond those lines, and China respects the legal territory of the Philippines.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/sp1898.asp
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>>543418581
I don't care what you claim the soviets claimed.

>>543418634
>Yet China doesn't
Don't worry cuck, the mutts will move out soon enough.
The missile defenses are being dismantled. Lets see how brave you become after that.
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>>543418646
>Treaty of Paris when Spain ceded the territory to the US.
The Philippines borders were last set on July 4th 1946.

You do realize that more current agreements take priority over historical.
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>>543407435
I'm retarded, so I need some help.

What's the difference between China being our ally, as Beijing states; versus the republic of China being our ally, as Taiwan states?

Is she just meaning the Communist party of China?
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>>543418769
>current agreements
Between who?
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>>543418837
UN and the Phillipines.
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>>543418775
Yeah. The commies are doing the whole stolen valor thing. They didnt fight the japs. The republic of china did. Now decades later commies that werent alive back in ww2 are talking about how they kicked jap ass. Its a totally normal fabrication.
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>>543407435
PING PONG PANG
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>>543418882
>UN
Can't decide China's borders. China can veto anything UN decides.

Try again Cuck.
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>>543418344
Mao was the worst genocider, but also so bad at it that the population and life expectancy doubled during his killing spree.

You might ask how its possible for there to be 1.4 billion Chinese today, with a large elderly population, and that's simple: don't trust your lying eyes. Those are fake numbers, and the cities you can go to? Potempkin cities. The old people? Actors.
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>>543407435
Taiwan only exists because the US CIA airlifted their government to that fucking island during the cold war.
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>>543418955
>Can't decide China's borders.
Yes it can, it's a requirement to be a security council member.
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>>543418987
>Mao was the worst genocider
Nah, I will never believe anythign you taught people in the past, present, or future.
Genocidal anglokike liar.
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>>543419061
Name a group the English actually genocided.
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>>543419013
>Yes it can
Nah it can't. China can Veto anything un the UN.
Try again Cuck.
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>>543407435
The people of China fought. Not the communist party and not whatever party rules Taiwan.
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>>543419005
You don’t know what you’re talking about
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>>543419090
The Irish, right next door. Just because you failed doesn't mean you didn't attempt to.
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>>543419106
Commie “people” sure didnt fight.
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>>543419099
>China can Veto anything
Yes, which is why no action is taken when one of the council members refuses to abide by the UN's charter.

But by the charter they are required to accept the general assembly's resolutions on matters. They just veto any condemnation.
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>>543419106
>The people of China fought
Good point, but
Most of them are supporting the communist party today, their decendents members of the party.
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>>543419141
No, the English did not genocide the Irish.

They didn't have a great time, but the state did not endorse policies of eradication.
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>>543419186
>Most of them are supporting the communist party
Who did not fight in WW2.
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>>543419172
>they are required to accept the general assembly's resolutions on matters
Nah, they can just veto it.

When the mutts are gone, the philipino monkeys will swim back to the shores.
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>>543407435
we fought for the commies in ww2
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>>543407751
That time period was a huge convoluted mess in China. And all the foreign meddling made an even bigger shitshow.
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>>543419223
>but the state did not endorse policies of eradication.
Nice try lying kike.

>>543419241
>Who did not fight in
They defected to the communists, they did fight. LMAO retarded cuck.
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>>543419242
>Nah, they can just veto it.
A veto isn't a rejection anon. By their position they are assumed to automatically agree with the assembly. They just veto the punishment.
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>>543419303
>they did fight
No, the CPC did not fight the Japanese in WW2.

They were cowards.
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>>543419186
>Most of them are supporting the communist party today
Most of them supported the communist party back then too. Mao didn't go from this terrible starting position to controlling all of China without overwhelming support of the people.
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>>543419357
>Mao didn't go from this terrible starting position to controlling all of China without overwhelming support of the people.
He achieved that by sitting out WW2 while the ROC got fucked by the Japs.
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>>543419138
You are not understanding what I am saying. If the CIA did not help them escape they would have been captured by the communists, bud. I'm not talking about the origins of their movement.


>As the mainland fell,The CIA covertly utilized CAT aircraft to fly high-priority Nationalist officials, families, and intelligence assets out of mainland China. CAT pilot, many of whom were American World War II veterans, flew round-the-clock evacuation missions. They explicitly airlifted top ROC government officials, military commanders, intelligence assets, and critical state resources directly onto Taiwan.

This is literally in a fucking book that is mainly about Vietnam but it offhandedly mentions the Taiwan airlifts.
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>>543418887
That’s extremely retarded. Like saying modern day Russian Federation citizens are “stealing valor” from the USSR because it was the Soviets who fought WW2 not the Russian Federation.

Every PRC citizen today is descended from ROC citizens who bore the brunt of the Japanese invasion in WW2. If you’re a PRC citizen today, that means that your grandparents or parents or great parents were the ROC citizens during WW2 who either fought or at least suffered under the occupation.
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>>543419351
>No, the CPC
See>>543419303
>They defected to the communists
They means they joined the communists after they fought in the war.
Today's CPC is them.

>>543419316
>By their position they are assumed to automatically agree
No, cuck.
When the Mutts retreat the island mokeys will
>adapt to territorial changes.
I'm using the vocabulary you can understand, these words are your words, cuck.
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>>543419423
I know what you’re saying. You’re just flat out wrong.

Taiwan and Taiwanese already existed. What you are talking about is the KMT taking over the island, and they did the exact opposite of what you think that they did.

The KMT did to Taiwan in 1945 what the CCP is doing to Hong Kong today.
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>>543419505
>No, cuck
That's the UN charter. That's why China has to veto instead of rejecting it. If it was a member but not on the security council they could just reject the resolution.
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>>543407435
>TAIWAN SCHOOLS TRUMP ON ACTUAL WW2 HISTORY
maybe they should start with something easier like potty training
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>>543419606
>That's the UN charter.
The UN charter doesn't matter, cuck.

Island monkeys will adjust to territorial changes.
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>>543419602
Holy shit you are not reading at all what I said you dumbfuck. Dowplaying all of the help we gave to Taiwan and the continued support and weapons is so fucking stupid. Taiwan is only allowed to exist because of the United States. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ISLAND AND INDIGENOUS TAIWANESE PEOPLE EXISTING.

Retard holy fuck
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>>543419666
>The UN charter doesn't matter
It's why China can't propose resolutions to the general assembly to take the nautical territory.

You can't pretend they don't care, they limit their foreign policy claims to fit within the framework of the UN charter.
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>>543419690
I know what exactly you’re saying, you literally just don’t know what you’re talking about.
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>>543419789
>It's why China can't propose resolutions
They don't need to propose anything.

They can just kill any island monkeys who encroachs the 9 dash line.
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>>543407435
Are they retarded? It was the KMT party during WW2. The communists did fight alongside them.
The current KMT party supports reunification with the mainland so current Taiwan can't claim shit.
If Taiwan is so offended why haven't they call out Japan pretending WW2 wasn't their fault? Mao even thanked Japan for weakening them.
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>>543410408
Who do you think most of the Chinese partisans belonged to? The ones that made sure Japan never controled anything outside major towns and railways?
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>>543419417
Mao fought against the Japanese. He won the civil war because after the Japs were defeated everyone joined him in liberating themselves and the rest of China from feudalism. He was a popular guy, landlords hated him though.
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>>543407435
Formosa COPE
This guy and his cronies is going to have to move to Singapore or Europe in a few years.
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>>543407435
taiwan is the legitimate chinese govt i dont know why the kike cheeto trump even pretends to give respect to the filthy murderous communist party
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>>543419983
>The communists did fight alongside them
No. No they did not. They formed a truce and the Commies ignored the Japanese.
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>>543409925
mainland china was ruled by chang kai shek retard, the government that fled to taiwan after the commies brainwashed a bunch of illiterate retards into chimping out all over mainland china to start mass famines so people could exxperience communism
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>>543420063
>Mao fought against the Japanese
No he didn't. That's an outright lie.
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>>543420209
>>543420124
>No. No they did not.
Yeah, yeah they did moron.
The people who fught back then, their descendents are in the CPC today.
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>>543410725
the PLA didnt exist until after ww2 retard.
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>>543419351
The KMT themselves do not try to diminish the CCP role in the war.

Western Tankie: “The CCP did all the fighting! They were the ones who won WW2”

Western Reactionary: “The KMT did all the fighting while the communists just hid”

KMT and CCP: “The Chinese people working together won the war against Japan, regardless of which political party they were aligned with”
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>>543420235
>their descendents are in the CPC today.
That's irrelevant to the CPC not fighting the Japs in WW2. That's like saying the Maori fought in the Napoleonic wars because the majority of Maori are now commonwealth subjects.
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>>543407435
The US today is starting to feel more and more like it's been completely subverted by the KGB.
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>>543420072
No it is not. The current modern democratic government of Taiwan is only the government of Taiwan.
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>>543420281
>The KMT themselves
Because it's an active political party.

Name a battlefront the commies manned in WW2 in China. Oh yeah, the only ones that did were the Soviets.
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>>543420124
Why would I take a New Zealander's opinion seriously?
>34 posts of seething at chinks
You must be a Flip. Go back to scrubbing the toilets, maid.
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>>543420311
>That's irrelevant to the CPC
No, decendents are actually allowed to glorify their blood related ancestors.
Their ancestors fought so they could manage China today, as partof the CPC.

Do you understand grandfaters and grandsons are blood related? Retard Monke
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>>543420312
It's because if you ever insinuate the commies didn't help the Chinese in WW2 they throw a fit.
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>>543420421
>No
The subject is what the CPC did in WW2 to defeat the Japanese. From a historical point.

The answer is fuck all.
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>>543420379
>Name a battlefront the commies manned
All of them.
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>>543420311
>That's like saying the Maori fought in the Napoleonic wars because the majority of Maori are now commonwealth subjects.

No it’s literally the exact opposite. It’s like saying that modern day Russians can’t celebrate Victory Day because the USSR not the Russian Federation fought the Nazis.

Every single PRC citizen today is a descendant of the ROC citizens who fought the Japanese or lived through the occupation.
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>>543420197
No shit retard, but they also pretend Taiwanese are some indigenous group that have no connection to the mainland and just want to be left alone. The Taiwanese that didn't come from the mainland after the war had nothing to do with resisting Japan, and the ROC government in Taiwan does not represent the mainlanders who did, as evident by the fact that they've been driven into exile.
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>>543420476
>The subject is what the CPC did
The answer is the CPC are decendents to the ancestors who fought in WW2.

Is this too difficult to understand, Monkey?
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>>543420380
I already have demonstrated I hate you little yellow bastards. Do you actually think I give a shit you're from Malaysia instead of China?
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>>543420524
>No it’s literally the exact opposite
No it isn't, it's from the historical viewpoint of what they did in the war.

They can celebrate their family who participated, they cannot pretend the CPC fought the war. Because that's a lie.
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>>543420536
Taiwan is a basket case of a "country" being supported by one electronics firm that has near complete market dominance.
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>>543420669
>They can celebrate their family who participated
But they are in the CPC now.
You're saying the CPC isn't allowed to hail their ancestors.
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>>543407435
The Taiwanese are absolute fucking vermin. I spent a few years there and I've never seen a less hospitable place on earth, filled with lying, cheating, two faced scum.

They'll do anything, ANYTHING, to go against China, even aisig with Japan who conquered them and raped their women. Here so spineless they even built a shrine to honour the traitors who helped the Japanese in WW2.
https://x.com/taiwanplusnews/status/1688897858391732225
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>>543420743
>You're saying the CPC isn't allowed to hail their ancestors.
Where? The CPC, the party, cannot pretend they participated in the fight against the Japanese by citing their citizens ancestry.

The party did not.
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>>543420311
>>543420209
>That's irrelevant to the CPC not fighting the Japs in WW2
The Peoples Liberation Army engaged in constant guerilla warfare against the Japs. They didn't win the civil war by saving pre-war forces, they didn't have much to start with. They won because the PLA grew after the war, cause everyone was joining the cause.
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>>543420791
>ANYTHING, to go against China
You know how Mao's meeting with Japan went right?
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>>543420829
>The Peoples Liberation Army engaged in constant guerilla warfare against the Japs.
No they didn't, that is a lie. It's also not a battlefront.
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>>543420822
>The CPC, the party
The party is made of people.
Just like Russian federation is made by people.

Try again island cuck.
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>>543420912
>The party is made of people
Yes, people who in WW2 sat aside and allowed the Japanese to torture, rape, murder and plunder the ROC.

That isn't a legacy to be proud of.
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>>543416330
>Imagine if the South decided "we just want to rule our selves" and decided to end the civil war by having a referendum for independence.
I can never understand why people can't understand this.
Imagine being in a war and losing so you had to retreat to a nearby island. Then you decided to shake each other's hand claiming the war is over without the guy you're fighting with.
Current Taiwan only exists because America told the CPC to back off then.
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>>543420791
Why do you frame it as “spineless”? Many Taiwanese are very proud that their ancestors fought for the Empire of Japan in the war. That’s why they built a monument to honor them. The Japanese occupation was remembered by many as the Golden Age of Taiwan. The way they view Japan is somewhat similar to how some Ukrainians and Eastern Euros view the Nazis. Just as the Nazis fought Stalin and the USSR, the Japanese fought the CCP and KMT. From the perspective of some Taiwanese, the Japanese were fighting against evil forces.
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>>543420853
You know Japan is currently seething about the Enemy State clause baked into the UN constitution that gives China the right to unilaterally attack Japan without Security Council approval and without being considered an aggressor by international law if they step out of the bounds imposed on them as a defeated nation right?
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>>543421160
>State clause baked into the UN constitution
The 1995 and 2005 assembly declared it obsolete, they could try cite it in the event of war but the UN would likely be dissolved if China vetos the resolution that it doesn't count.
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>>543420592
Give back your owner's phone and take out the trash, Flip.
Just because your ancestors was assaulted by the Spaniards and Americans doesn't make you white, bro.
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>>543421340
>Flip
Again, I reiterate. I hate you little yellow bastards. From the entire continent to every last pissant island in Asia. That includes the Philippines.
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>>543421440
Except Borneo. I like Borneo.
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>>543407751
Fuck off pidor, nobody has forgotten the Nazi-Soviet pact ie Molotov-Ribbentrop. You pidorussian shitheads were perfectly fine with Hitler and destroying Europe until he betrayed you.

TZD
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>>543421038
Its idiotic. Control of the island is the only thing left they're fighting over. If you could just have a referendum that says you won, civil wars wouldn't be a thing.

Is it really a civil war at this point? The Chinese people exercised their will by delivering the ROC a crushing defeat on the mainland. They only survived because of foreign intervention, evacuating them to Taiwan and giving them protection. This faction in the "civil war" only continues to exists to serve foreign interests.
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>>543421510
>You pidorussian shitheads were perfectly fine with Hitler and destroying Europe until he betrayed you
Actually the Germans considered the Soviets to have violated the pact in 1940
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_occupation_of_Bessarabia_and_Northern_Bukovina
The Nazis partitioned Romania (without their consent or knowledge) with the USSR but the USSR occupied territories that Nazi Germany did not agree to. The Soviets seemed to assume it was fine and that the Germans were too busy with UK and occupying France to care.
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>>543421296
>muh assembly declared
It's in the constitution. Declarations are what the rabble does because they can't amend that clause where it matters.

>they could try cite it in the event of war but the UN would likely be dissolved
And history will record that China was not the aggressor when Japan gets wiped out in the ensuing war, and that the dissolution of the UN and abandonment of international law was committed by those party to the aggressors.

What's so difficult about Japan honoring the terms of their surrender?
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>>543422213
>It's in the constitution
Which the assembly ratified twice as obsolete. Ergo a constitutional crisis if invoked.
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>>543407435
Taiwan was a Japanese colony in WW2. As was Thailand by the way.
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>>543421440
>>543421340
kek, he really is a Flip. A degenerate race of servile buck broken people that exist to be passed around between colonial powers. National dish is pagpag and they worship people who only see their country as a place to go to have sex with children for cheap.
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>>543422729
I'm lily white. I genuinely hate anything and everything in Asia.
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>>543421028
>Yes, people who in WW2
Fought the Japs and kicked them out.
Try again island monkey.
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>>543423160
>Fought the Japs and kicked them out.
No, the political entity of the CPC didn't. The ROC didn't either. The Chinese didn't liberate themselves.
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>>543423226
>No, the political entity of the CPC
Consist of people who descent from those who fought.
Try again island monkey.
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>>543423535
>and kicked them out.
I don't need to explain shit to you. Lying tard.
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>>543423636
It's the truth island monkey.
The Soviets also kicked out the Nazis, even though their descendents are something new called Russia.
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>>543423798
>It's the truth island monkey
No it's, the only part of China liberated from Japanese occupation by the end of the war was Manchuria. And that was all on the Soviets.
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>>543423885
>No it's not
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>>543423885
>No it's, the only part of China liberated
The Japs got kicked out from multiple fronts, not just manchuria.
When you retreat it means you got kicked out. Island monkey.

Here's anothe rbox of butthurt for you. Monkey.
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>>543407713
/thread
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>>543424016
>The Japs got kicked out from multiple fronts
That's a battlefront not an occupation you fucking retard. They also didn't, they repelled their advances in multiple theaters but never succeeded in liberating shit on their own.
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>>543424324
>That's a battlefront not an occupation
Battle front with camps for sleepovers? That's an occupation, retard.
The japs got kicked out by people whose decendants are in CPC today.
The Nazis got kicked out by people whose decendants are in Russia today.

Here's anothe rbox of butthurt for you. Monkey.
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>>543424539
>That's an occupation, retard.
No it isn't, a military occupation refers to the administration of a territory.

China, either side of the civil war. Did not succeed in removing Japanese occupation in WW2.
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>>543424878
>the administration of a territory
It's good enough that they set camp, and the Chinese kicked them out from those camps.
You're only arguing this point becuase your ass is ruptured with assbleed.
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>>543425196
>and the Chinese kicked them out from those camps.
Again they didn't, you're failing to comprehend how shit China performed. They didn't outst Japan in in any theater, the Japanese just withdrew unmolested. They didn't need to abandon camp, they just packed it up and left.

China was not victorious in any theater in WW2, and was entirely reliant on the other allies. New Zealand achieved more victories in WW2, and were essentially not present.
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>>543425614
>the Japanese just withdrew
Running away is the same thing as being kicked out.
Here is another one for your ass crack.
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>>543425940
>Running away is the same thing as being kicked out.
But they didn't run away, they withdrew to their occupied territory in China. Knowing that a Chinese counteroffensive would never happen.
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>>543426204
>But they didn't run away, they withdrew
LMAO at this butthurt island monkey.
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>>543426660
But in both those situations they defeated the coalition/US installed government.

Again, China failed to do that in WW2.
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>>543426660
Strategic retrograde redeployment. It's called maneuver, not retreat.
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>>543407435
The soviet union won ww2 the rest were vultures pocking in corpses
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>>543417455
Japan owned the island for 50 yrs before it was handed back to China. Of course there would be collaborators
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>>543407435
>illegitimate Amerimutt puppet regime made up of groomed rape babies defends Amerimutt history revisionism in favour of the Jap invader cocksucking 5th collumns killing their own people instead of fighting Amerimutt backed Jap invaders
>also we stand with Judeo-Americas right to invade Palestine
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>>543427196
>It's called maneuver
LLOL

>US installed government
Nah, the Afghans ran away, just like the Japs. LMAO butthurt loser.
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So when will Taiwan call out Japan's revisionism?
Are they not gonna call out the actual reason and people they lost the Civil War?
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>>543420281
Amerimutts: Let me tell you some 5th layer libtard Amerimutt history revisionist hasbara
Reality and CPC: Time and space exist. Chinese people ended up fighting under the so called "KMT" banner of the Amerimutt regime favoured junta along with Communist against Jap invaders, an acklowedged facts AFTER internal coups and infigting ended the cuckholdery towards Japanese invaders AFTER pro-Jap-cocksucking factors in the so called "ROC" spent all their effort killing Chinese dissidents and just watched Japs occupy more and more or Chinas land instead of fighting them.

>>543420311
>If I repeat and double down on my Amerimutt invented hasbara its true
No
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>>543418087
It is, I've spent a lot of time there. Any major US metro area vs any Chinese city and China wins hands down.
>>543417762
Like 50%-75% but you need to include jeets
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>>543429819
I will say rural US is comfiest if you can find a decent job, which almost nobody can.
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>>543419863
>china can just be a rogue state if they want
They can. Anyone can do illegal things or break treaties and generally be a fucking untrustworthy retard. But at the moment China is trying to appear like less of a chaotic shithole than the US so their behaviour is somewhat predictable. They won't do it under the current conditions.
Yes if things change then behaviour will change. The most honourable person may do horrible things while under starvation conditions. But we don't act like they are always capable of acting that way at all times even today when they are not starving.
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>>543430225
>>china can just be a rogue state if they want
It's no use crying about that.
The philipino monkeys set the bar for how their fishermen should be treated when they enter the 9 dash line.
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1790597702836947.png

Don't cry when your own methods start being used against yourself.
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>>543425614
>I repeat ahistorical Amerimutt cope talking points from my Mutt regime propaganda pamplets that where made up to seethe and cope about Communists/China
Doesnt matter, Sgt Tyrone.

We all know majority of Japans losses both qualitatively and quantitatively came from Japans China campaign. Japans 3 month special military operation turned into a 3 year campaign just to conquer the initially planned strategic cities. Thats history Amerimutt just love to gloss over for their hasbara talking points, because it completely shifts the narrative away from you Amerimutt alternative history.

We all know Amerimutts just acted like kikes, first egging on and supporting Japans invasion of Russia and China materially then Amerimutts backstabbed Japs when Japans invasion of China turned into a meatgrinder exchausting and stretching their forces thin.

Either way you spin and lie about who on Chinas side fought and ran away from Japs, once they Japs escalated the invasion past "Manchuria" the Japs losses shot up to the millions, thats why those little butthurt niggers went rouge on attacking civilians. The Amerimutts just ended up inflating their kill counts bombing civilians and 10 year old conscripts in the latter half of the war, while writing headlines as if the war started when Amerimutts turned on Japs.
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>>543429775
Again, you a non-Chinese person is a fighting a battle on behalf of China that they neither want nor need you to fight. A battle that is over.

Whenever Beijing holds their Victory Parade, leaders of the KM fly in from Taiwan to attend. KMT veterans who fought the Japanese are given communist medals and treated as guest of honor by Xi himself.

The CCP’s position is very clear. It was a joint effort by all Chinese patriots, posts like yours are attempts to divide the memory of the anti-Japanese resistance and are anti-Chinese and anti-communist.
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>>543430691
They're not my methods. I'm not a fucking Flip.
China can go full retard and respond like rogue state and civilized people like me will think worse of them. Public opinion is worth something these days and everyone knows it. China will deal with the matter following agreements they have made and considering international law because they're not retarded.
You think it's wrong that anyone is doing it and yet you approve of the idea of China doing it anyway. You are a hypocrite and so your opinion on the matter is unprincipled and therefor utterly worthless.
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>>543419789
>China is not proposing resolutions about its sovereign territory that dont require a resolution because Chinas sovereign rights are not up to debate in first place and there is nothing at the actual UN outside of Amerimutt fantasy lie headlines that needs rectification that requires a resolution from China
>therefore Americas territorial claims on Chinas territory are valid
Thats not how it works Tryone Judenberg, but you know what you do, Amerimutt
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>>543431026
>island monkeys can kill Chinese, Canuck cuck won't say shit
>The prospect of China dealing eye for an eye makes Canuck cuck seethe with deep concern
If phillipinos can kill Chinese, why can't Chinese kill philipinos, explain yourself leaf cuck.

Keep in mind, your explanation is the bar you set for how you should be treated down the line.
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So what do modern Taiwanese most closely identify with? Japanese descendants? non-commie true Chinese? Or larping as SEA aboriginals?
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>>543431242
>won't say shit
You're just flailing around like a fucking retard now. I obviously don't approve of anyone doing that shit. Nor does anyone else really. That's why the Flips that did it went to jail.
Just how long are you going to be crying about this shit that happened in 2013 and pretending that everyone approved of it and the perpetrators went unpunished anyway? It's fucking pathetic.
The Flips that did it were wrong. Their government acknowledged that it was wrong, publicly prosecuted them, and sent them to jail.
If Chinese do anything similar it is also wrong and so I don't support them doing it. Unlike you I'm not a blood thirsty hypocritical retard.
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>>543431282
The majority do not identify as the “true Chinese” in 2026.

>Japanese descendants? non-commie true Chinese? Or larping as SEA aboriginals?

1st and 3rd category are more important to most Taiwanese people today.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/6003655
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>>543431625
>Their government acknowledged that it was wrong
So China can just say the same thing. Kill some pinoy monkeys and say they are in the wrong, and claim someone was put in prison.
Got it.

>I obviously don't approve of anyone doing that shit.
That's fine.
When mutts start killing you, China shouldn't say shit.
If you start killing Mutts, China should express grave concern for Canuck cuck aggression.
That's the bar set by you.
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>>543431894
>so china can
Yes. China can act like a rogue state if they want. We established this several posts ago.
To be clear you are talking about official government action and policy of the Chinese state, and not some criminals doing illegal shit and being punished by their state as was the case with the Flips.
>china won't say anything
Oh, no! We won't get Chinese Warning #9001 if Canada was attacked by someone? That is completely unacceptable!
China would never do anything to help us and I don't expect them to. They're not our ally, you rediclous clown.
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>>543432211
>To be clear you are talking about official government action and policy of the Chinese state
Chinese government policy should be the same as the island monkeys who instructed their coastguards to kill intruding fishermen, and pardon them after "sentencing" them.

>Oh, no!
Keep crying cuck, you deserve to be treated how you treat others.
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>>543407435
Taiwan roc literally worked with Japanese to kill Taiwanese natives
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>>543432963
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>543432903
>instructed their coastguards
Oh, so you're just a paranoid lunatic that makes shit up. And that's why you so readily call for violence. Makes sense.
>keep crying
And you're also autistic? Anon. I was being sarcastic. I don't actually care if China issues their millionth fake warning about whatever shit they are upset about.
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>>543432211
>To be clear you are talking about official government action and policy of the Chinese state, and not some criminals doing illegal shit
This is the standard western cope Americans use to excuse their own behavior.
>WE didn't start another war, it was criminal pedophiles blackmailed by our Israeli vassal!
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>>543433240
>makes shit up.
Coast guards always have instructions from their superiors, you can't hide like a dindu nigger.

>I was being sarcastic.
But I wasn't sarcastic. You deserve to be treated the same way you treated this situation.
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>>543433286
The leadership of the country makes the decisions and sets policies. Them being controlled by another nation is nowhere near the same thing as some random peasants illegally killing some other nobodies and then getting punished for it. What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>543433389
>if you are in coast guard it is impossible to do anything illegal
Interesting theory. Retarded. But interesting.
>you deserve
As if I give a damn what an evil person like you thinks I deserve.
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>>543433512
>random peasants
Coastguards are not random peasants, they are a military arm of the government.

>>543433575
>it is impossible to do anything illegal
Close, have you ever seen Pinoy coast guards kill americans who occupy their lands?
Nah, these island monkeys follow instructions closely. They are not children.

>evil person like you
You mean an evil person like you who looks away one side of the murders, but keeps an eye to make sure the other side doesn't retaliate?
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>>543433769
Coast guard members are not infallible. Which is why these ones went to court and were convicted of crimes and then jailed for not following instructions. You being paranoid that the entire episode was faked and making up a bunch of shit is not my problem.
>you mean
I mean the evil person that ignores reality so he can make up the most despicable scenario possible in order to justify his bloodlust. You are an enemy of peace. You are evil.
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>>543407751
This. Honestly unless Trump wants to give Taiwan UN voting status this is all moot. The alliance was with the government of the Koumangtang AND the people of mainland China.

Also long live RoC
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>threads about China/Taiwan
>full of canadian/aussie/kiwi flags
grim
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>>543433971
>Coast guard members are not infallible.
They should be, seeing as none of them have killed the american jews who occupy Siargao Island.
That's what I would do if I was a nationalist seamonkey who was armed and have a gunboat.
And yet no jews have been killed. What a cohencidence...
But Fishermen from another country? Wow it's finally time to act emotionally!

Yeah, you think you're clever enough to trick the Chinese with this clown theater bullshit, but If I can see through you, so can they.

>I mean the evil person that ignores reality
That's funny because that's exactly what you did when you turned a blind eye to one side of the agrressions.
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>>543434294
>if i was in charge i would kill everyone and start wars
That's great. I pray you are never put in charge of anything.
>it was all a massive conspiracy to murder some random fishermen
You've established that you're a paranoid retard who makes up his own reality so I'm done addressing that. I know it hurts you that I won't agree to participate in it like some tranny and I don't care.
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>>543421128
Yes, exactly. They view the nation that invaded everyone's homelands, abducted their women and children for mass rape, killed people for fun, tortured people to death, experimented on them horrifically in a way that'd make the nazis blush, as "the good guys".

No one can have that opinion and be a good person, much less a sane, reasonable individual who you should listen to. They're all cowards. The men are effeminate bitches and the women absolute cunts. There is nothing good about Taiwan. Go to any city in China and you'll think you're in the future. Go to any city in Taiwan and you'll think you're in industrial England in the 1700's.
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>>543434200
Seems like people always forget that China was colonizing Canada long before India was. For a while you would see stories about things like Chinese fent labs in Canada or Chinese police stations being built in Canada to enforce Chinese law on Chinese nationals living there.

But then the jeet invasion started and no one talked about it anymore. I'm sure they've only expanded their operations in Canada since then.
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>>543434607
But you didn't answer the question. Why haven't any of these fallible island monkeys killed the settlers who are colonising them?

It's because you don't want to admit I'm right, they are strictly following orders.

>paranoid retard
Nice try kike. The best way to deal with you have always been to kill you outright.
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>>543433769
>You mean an evil person like you who looks away one side of the murders, but keeps an eye to make sure the other side doesn't retaliate?
It's a retarded leaf. They cry about Trump being aggressive an imperalistic towards Canada, then two seconds later clap for American imperialism against Iran and make official statements condemning Iranians for resisting an causing destabilization.

Pathetic cucks. Leafs are like the Filipinos of whites.
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>>543434829
>why don't they make mistakes when i want them to and no at other times
I don't know. I'm not God. Not everything need to be how you would like it to be. I for one am thankful for that.
>you are a kike and should be killed because you refuse to participate in my schizo world i made up
Like I said: You are evil.
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>>543434294
>seeing as none of them have killed the american jews
Don't be insane. Flips tried resisting the white demigods instead of worshiping them one (1) time and it went horribly. Never again.
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>>543434949
What the fuck are you on about? I have no idea what the fuck America is doing in Iran and have been against it from the start. So has pretty much anyone I have ever talked to here since it started. People are even more against it now because of the fuel prices.
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>>543407435
Taiwan is the anus licker of ZOG.
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>>543435024
>I don't know why they are not killing their colonizers
I know why, they are monkeys who follow orders.
>Do not kill the american jews
>Yes kill those fishermen

>You are evil for suggesting colonisers should be killed!!!!!
LMAO
>KEK LEAF
>KIKE LEAF
MAde your bets.
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>>543435283
>le heckin colonizers should be killed
And you're calling me a kike? LMFAO
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>>543407713
>winner
china is a giant shithole, commie fag, your IQ scam may fool naive tards, not me.
chinks don't even know what they are fighting for, that's the most pathetic part.
the only reason you commies kike slaves (((won))), was because of the heavenly sect war, you are basically saying that the nigger-nubians invasion of ancient egypt happen because the nubians were better when that is objectively not the case, they (((won))) because of the ancient greek vs ancient egyptian war that happen.
Therefore, you commies are ideological nigger-kikes.
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>>543435361
>And you're calling me a kike?
Yeah, you got assblasted and called me evil when I suggested your kin should be murdered for colonising Siargao Island
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>>543435470
I see. And you just happened to use the same kind of language as some fag with a gender studies degree posting on Tumblr? Yeah, okay.
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>>543435570
>I see.
It's always a dead giveaway when you defend your own kin, kike.

I always see through you.
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>>543434174
> Also long live RoC

The ROC is for all practical purposes effectively dead. It exists only as a legal fiction.
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>>543435705
I haven't defended anyone. I am mocking you for making shit up again. I'm not a kike, but I understand you need me to be so you can save face. It's pathetic and I'm glad you are so butt flustered that it's all you can come up with.
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>>543435822
>I haven't defended anyone.
Calling me evil because I suggest your race is invading one of the phillipino islands right now and shoud be killed, is the same as defending the settlers.
You gave yourself away kike.
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>>543435999
Checked.
No, retard. You are evil for making up that I am a kike and then suggesting that I be killed.
Would you approve of my calling you a kike and calling for you death? No. It is an evil thing to do.
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>>543434639
Try to put yourself in the position of a Taiwanese person who may feel this way.

Your grandfather fought for Japan in WW2 against the KMT and CCP.

After Japan lost the war the KMT took over Taiwan and killed thousands of people. And now the CCP is threatening to invade Taiwan and do the same thing again.

Surely you can understand this perspective even if you don’t agree with it.

It is not that dissimilar to somebody in Ukraine or the Baltic states who views the Nazis as having been at least the lesser of the two evils.
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>>543436277
>You are evil for making up that I am a kike
Why else did you defend the jewish settlers on Siargao Island right now?
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>>543416827
From 1638 to 1895 Taiwan was ruled by the Qing dynasty. It's Chinese territory. Always has been. The Taiwanese are just vermin who hate themselves so much that they can't admit defeat to China. The only reason they keep up this larp of a free independent country is because they'd rather all their sons and daughters die than admit China kicked their asses and they're wrong. They're spiteful as fuck, so spiteful they'd rather die than admit the truth. They're the definition of weak, perhaps only rivaled by the British in that sense.
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>>543436418
Show me where I fucking defended it.
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>>543436351
>Your grandfather fought for Japan
That's kind of cringe.
It only took Japan 50 years to subvert the island and make its inhabitants die for them in the wars?
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It's going to be hilarious when the Formosa's ZOG sycophants have to bail from their little island.
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>>543436568
>Show me
Right here kike>>543435024

Don't say you weren't aware that I was talking about your settler project in Siargao Island...
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>>543417700
A couple years ago there was a news report about a kindergarten that was drugging the kids to make them sleep. This was around 2022, way past the time where ignorance can be excused. They lock their kids up in school for 12 hours per day, everyday, and "teach" them using antiquated victorian style rote memorisation. Meanwhile China outlawed cram schools and literally mandates that kids should be free to enjoy life after school. They're barbarians. China has to take it back and civilise those savages.

China and Taiwan are perfect examples of what happens when one nation chooses it's own way, against the world order and develops, and the other sides with imperial US hegemony and becomes a rat infested hell hole.
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>>543436351
That's actually a really good point and an opinion a lot of Taiwanese hold. However they have become exactly what they claimed to want to avoid. A dystopian hell hole where you can be sued and criminally charged for saying something that upsets someone.

All nations do this. When they claim to be free they turn in on themselves and become their own dictators. When they are under strict rule from above they are more free in their day to day lives.
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>>543436809
We just covered this, retard: >>543436277
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>>543437048
>You are evil for making up that I am a kike
Why else did you defend the jewish settlers on Siargao Island right now?
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>>543437137
I didn't defend them. You insulted me and said that I should be killed. I then called you evil for doing so, among other things. At no point did I defend them. Are you an actual retard, or is this some kind of panic attack?
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>>543437217
>You insulted me and said that I should be killed
No, I said your kin who are colonising the island should be killed.
That's when you got buttflustered.
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>>543437354
>making shit up yet again. That is all you are capable of.
Look at your post: >>543434829
You said:
>The best way to deal with you have always been to kill you outright.
You invent reality as well as any tranny. And get upset about my refusal to participate in it just as much. I wonder why that is.
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>>543436603
50 years is a long time. Especially when the country you left collapses a few years after you leave.

The Qing Dynasty lost Taiwan to Japan in 1895. And then the Qing Dynasty fell in 1911. So for a Taiwanese person who still had loyalty to China, they would know that the version of China they left and missed would no longer exist. Probably makes a clean break somewhat easier.

Anyway by the time WW2 had rolled there had been several generations born under Japanese rule. This would have just been viewed as the normal state of affairs to an average Taiwanese person of age to fight in WW2 by the 1940s.
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>>543437557
>The Chinks will cease to be Chinks because they are occupied by Japan and their foreign dynasty that enslaved them fell

Fuck off
Who the fuck are you even?
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>>543437540
>The best way to deal with you have always been to kill you outright.
That's just the truth kike.

If their coastguard is as fallible and emotional as you claim, they should have at least attacked the jewish settlers by now.
But they haven't. Which suggest I was right all along, and you were wrong all along.
You feigned ignorance on the topic, why ?
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>>543437807
It was directed at me. After insulting me by calling me a kike. Then you lied about doing so. More evidence that you are evil.
>if someone makes a mistake that really bothers me then someone else should make a mistake that i like the idea of
No. There is no reason to believe that to be true. Nothing happens in this world simply to balance out other things that you don't like. But I'm not surprised that you are so incredibly narcissistic that you believe it to be true.
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>>543437804
> foreign dynasty that enslaved them fell

lol it was actually the Qing loyalists who put up the most resistance to the Japanese invasion of Taiwan. The Qing loyalists were the ones that refused to become Japanese and insisted on remaining Chinese, first trying to fight off the Japanese and then leaving Taiwan and returning to mainland China rather than take Japanese citizenship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_Jingsong
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>>543438070
>After insulting me by calling me a kike
That's just good old probing to see that sticks. And it stuck.

>There is no reason to believe that to be true.
But there is.
You want me to believe their coastguard is
impulsive and nationalist enough to kill random fishermen from Taiwan,
but not impulsive and nationalist enough to kill litterally invasive jewish settlers have have a track record of killed the locals in Palestine?
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>>543438270
It's desperation. You have nothing else. And so you cling to it like a drowning man.
Organizations are made up of people, retard. Just because a handful of them fuckup in a particular situation does not mean that other members of that organization must fuckup in a different way that you perceive to balance out the actions of the other people. That retarded nonsense.
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>>543421038
There wasn't even an armistice signed, it was ju ts a gentleman's agreement not to shoot at each other anymore lmao

that's how bad Taiwan fucked itself, even N Korea/S Korea governments exist on more more politically stable ground.
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>>543438416
You're desperate kike.

>Organizations are made up of people
They are all ants who follow orders.
That's the real reason why they attack 1 group but not the other group.

Take your pick, I will allow you to be an evil kike, or a retarded leaf.
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>>543438608
>other people are ants
There's that narcissism again. You live in another reality.
I don't give a shit what you think I am. You're one of the most pathetic people I have ever had the displeasure of interacting with. You can have the last post. I know you need it.
Make it a good one. Call me a double nigger kike and go on longest schizo tirade you can muster or something.
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>>543438865
>There's that narcissism again. You live in another reality.
What else would you call a coastguard who ignore settler kikes, but always harass fishermen?

Go ahead kike, answer the question.
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>>543421654
>only continues to exists to serve foreign interests.
That's how the world is. Taiwan is only useful because of chips and being close to the mainland so they can use it for attacks.
>>543438447
Which is why retards defending Taiwan is ridiculous.
99% of the world recognizes and acknowledges the One China policy. Even the most Anti-China countries and yet they keep picking fights for some reason.
It's still an unresolved Civil War.
>muh China is gonna conquer Japan and Philippines next
What exactly are they getting from conquering them? Empty land and old people from Japan? Bananas and cheap women from the Flips?
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>>543422729
80% of the China seethe I see online is by them.
Really pathetic since they always like to brag about how the US or ASEAN countries will protect them from China.
They're the most hated in ASEAN for begging and bringing their colonizers back.
The 2016 UNCLOS crap they loved so much had 0 ASEAN countries supporting it. That's the reason why it's not even worth a sheet of toilet paper.
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From what I understand the Taiwanese were the government of China the US sided with during WW2 and then the current Communist government that controls China today pushed out the now Taiwanese

In the US most of the Chinese history around WW2 and the Communist defeating and pushing out the now Taiwanese is barely covered
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>>543409768
This
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>>543441629
>From what I understand the Taiwanese were the government of China the US sided with during WW2 and then the current Communist government that controls China today pushed out the now Taiwanese

No this is not correct at all. Taiwan and Taiwanese people were Japanese subjects during WW2. They became part of the ROC after WW2.
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>>543417836
>group of the Confederates fled to Cuba

AI Overview
Yes, individual Confederate leaders and Confederate sympathizers did flee or travel to Cuba as part of a post-war diaspora, though an organized Confederate military force did not relocate there.
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>>543442381
Well that’s the key difference, the confederate leaders did not establish a “confederacy in exile” in Cuba, kill thousands of people who resisted and try to culturally genocide Cuba and try to turn it into Dixie in Exile.

When the KMT/ROC took over Taiwan their goals were
1) Wipe out any traces of Taiwanese identity and culture, kill any who resisted
2) Bring the “degraded people” of Taiwan back into the Sinosphere. Replace Taiwanese regionalism and Japanese colonial culture with mainland Chinese Nationalism.
3) and then after 1949, Use the people of Taiwan as cannon fodder to reclaim China



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