Are people marrying at a young age at bigger risk of getting a divorce? I'd argue that older couples are more willing to work through their issues knowing how complicated the dating market gets at 35+.
>>543416807>your youn-my youn what??
>>54341680719 is practically still just a baby
>>543416807>I think it's better if your wife has been riding cocks for 15+ years before she settles for youWhatever makes you happy, OP.
it worked out fine for thousands of years why would it suddenly be a problem? The amish don't get married at 40 they marry young.
>>543416807Possibly, everyone I know that married someone right out of high school is divorced. I would definitely be unhappy with my LTR from HS.
>>543416807What are the conditions through which the divorce happened? The kind of person that puts their life on blast to the whole internet and then commentates on it after the fact is the exact kind of person who thinks they are the center of the universe. I would bet everything I own that once the honeymoon period wore off, she "lost the spark", cheated(probably with her "gay" male best friend), and then wanted to "find herself", before actively sabotaging the relationship while passing blame the whole time.Almost all marriages work just fine when women can't sabotage them unilaterally. This is not a nature issue about age, this is a civilization issue about women's "rights", where society has granted responsibilities to a person with the intelligence of a 12 year old boy, and the emotional regulation capacity of a 9 year old boy.
>>543417458Because your brain isn't developed yet at 19... its pedo
>>543417458>it worked out fine for thousands of years why would it suddenly be a problem?Because there are no jobs. You literally have to fight billions of other wannabe slaves for the right to be put in chains.Humanity must be culled, like 99.99% should just fucking vanish overnight, then and only then the survivors will have a good life worth living. Until then LDARing is your best bet.
>>543416807idk op but i appreciate your totally natural, organic concern for others, with compassion like that you will go far in life youre a good egg op
>>543417494>isn't developed yetIn what way? You're repeating a wierd feminist talking point, almost certainly without understanding anything about the neuroscience involved.
>>543417478Well said
>>543417494the brain never stops developing what kind of argument is that. Get married young you have energy for family and kids get married late and you gave your life energy to companies seeking to exploit you. > inb4 muh careermy grandparents managed to raise 6 kids in post war Germany and still bought a house and lived a good life there is no excuse to not marry young.
>>543416807a woman should be married within 6 months of her first perioda man shouldnt be married until he has 6 streams of income funneled through a trust that cannot be taken in divorce
>>543417597Whatever. Enjoy your stupid foidslop thread pajeet.
>>543417571if you worry about job and money you will never have kids. Kids and wife first worry about money later.
>>543416911:-)
>>543416807>I’d argue abstraction instead of just checking the statsRetarded faggot. Kys
>>543417747Sorry Ahmed, but it does not work if you are white.
>>543416807I would say wait til 25. Too much change in both people below those ages
>>543417458Most marriages I have seen that start at 18 end early. I think the current economic system puts too much stress as well as modern day young adults being less adult like in the current era
>>543417478>Almost all marriages work just fine when women can't sabotage them unilaterallyI've literally never heard of a divorce where the woman wasn't a certified bitch / frigid harpy.Never.The only time it's on the man it's because the woman married a known womanizer, and to nobody's shock, said man continues being a womanizer, and the woman becomes upset after a while.
>>543416807Go back to X faggot
>>543417000My grandpa had 50 confirmed gook kills at 19 you fucking homo.
>>543417494What does "pedo" mean? I assume it's short for something, but what is it's definition?
>>543417716>foidslopThe only people who unironically use this term are betamale losers who have bought into the gynocentric model who, in essence, think that if they stay a good boy, then they will get sex. Anyone who rejects this gynocentric mode of thinking is labelled an incel. That slur is losing all it's validity through overuse, the same way Nazi and Fascist have.>>543417747We are running the issue through a female filter because we live in a gynocentric society. The vast majority of the men arguing about "there aren't any jobs" are simply responding to the conditions without thinking about them. We don't care about the money involved, but do you know who does care about it? Women. So women will only date, settle down, and marry a man who earns enough to fund her lifestyle, but what lifestyle she considers to be good enough is fluid in it's interpretations. Boomers had the best go at things ever, and compared to them we are destitute. Women raised in boomer/genx households compare the living conditions of their parents vs the living conditions available with the men they can get married to, and say it's an "economic issue", when in reality we all know that it isn't. When women say "I/we can't afford to have kids" what they are actually saying (since women never say what they mean) is "We can't afford to have kids, pay off a house, and maintain my level of profligacy that I am accustomed to, all at the same time".If women were made to marry young, and couldn't throw it under the bus whenever they wanted, the argument over "muh jobs" would go away because men could get married and have kids regardless, like all of our ancestors. Once again this is an issue of women's rights.
>>543416807Doesn't matter as long as they had children. Marriage is for the purpose of children. Only has to last about 15 years until the child is no longer a child.
>>543417478100%Majority of divorces are caused by women.
>>543417494shut the fuck up, you dumb cunt.
>>543417877I think it's moreso that young people have a kind of artificial desperation. I almost married a girl young because I thought she was my only shot at a girl that wasn't used up. Made me ignore a lot of red flags. I also see this if you wait too long. It seems to pop back up in your late 20s since you're close to the humiliation ritual that is dating in your 30s.
>>543417458We also didn't have social media for thousands of years allowing both parties to entertain other potential suitors on a daily basis
>>543417630Your grandparents were ultra rich
>>543417987Pedobear
>>543417992thats bullshit. Idk why pol seems to think that very last female is some radical feminist when I was young they were plenty of options you have to settle with what you know yes but if you want a family just go and do it. The problem is that we have too many choices people get addicted to porn and have false standards. Its not gynocentric society thats preventing you to have kids its your own urge to find a good looking women to hook up with and having too many options. Don't wait for a 7/10 just go for the 5/10 they will be loyal for life.
>>543416807>>543417000>>543417478>This is not a nature issue about age, this is a civilization issue about women's "rights" What a retarded argument. So by your logic you have to artificially keep couples married by force, otherwise it fails when women can decide freely. Do you retards forget that about 50% of all men cheat at some point in their life as well? "Until death do us part" is one of the most damaging concepts in human history. It goes completely against human nature. We did not evolve to be a sexually monogamous species, which is evidenced by the fact that we rarely only have one sexual partner for our entire life. Having one partner at a time isn't monogamy, it actually fits into the category of serial polygyny. Studies have shown that just about three percent of mammals are socially monogamous. This means that males and females cohabitate to jointly raise offspring. Genetic studies have shown that few of these paired animals are sexually monogamous. Yet, many of these animals continue to be socially monogamous. In black-legged kittiwake, researchers have used genetic testing of eggs and chicks to reveal that up to 40% of the offspring are not from the "husband" bird but from another male. Humans have sex hundreds of times for every baby conceived, as opposed to other animals that have a ratio closer to 12 to one. We have sex when the female isn't even ovulating, we have sex for reasons other than procreation, and the human desire to experiment is far too great to limit ourselves to one sexual partner in our lives. Monogamy itself is a recent social construct. Men and women are both inclined to seek multiple sexual partners for a variety of biological reasons. Because monogamy takes so many social structures to exist, it can't really be natural. It seems more natural for humans to want a personal harem, so each of us get to enjoy sexual variety, but insist on sexual exclusivity for our lovers, so we don't have to deal with jealousy.
>>543416807the elite don't want you to know this, but the healthiest age (for both the women and the child) for women to have their first child is 14.
>>543417885All women are naturally like that, though. What you're describing is a phenomena that transcends all races and cultures. Women are naturally oriented in that way because for all human history there was no mating pressure against it. Women did what they were told, and men slapped them around if they didn't comply. You can beat 98% of women into line, all of history proves this.>The only time it's on the man it's because the woman married a known womanizerExactly. Who chose to marry these men? The women. The woman's father wouldn't agree at all, but they can't tell their daughters what to do anymore, either. Women don't inhabit reality, they inhabit a little fantasy world. When they have no responsibility or choice (beyond taking care of the kids) this biologically ingrained hyperreality isn't a problem. >>543418078All divorces are caused by women. They get to choose who to marry, and they either marry the real world equivalent of the werewolf/vampire/pirate archetype who proceeds to cheat on them constantly, or they marry the unattractive(to them) betamale provider, who they secretly resent for not being the chads that ran them through in their 20's.
>>543416807No idea, I married my missus 5 days after I turned 18 and regret nothing.Try not being a brown incel for fucks sake.
>>543418031It does matter though. My friend married a huge cunt and they had kids before they got divorced. He was just tired of dating and thought she just needed to mature a little. Now he has to deal with this manipulative bitch on a weekly basis until his kids are 18 or whatever. I'm sure the kids will also need therapy to deal with the damage she's done.
>>543417478 Waiting until your brain has fully developed (at age 25) is important - and this is also true for men. Up until the age of about 18, a girl is not yet capable to think beyond the impulse of "being liked". Men who take advantage of this fact are disgusting, dangerous psychopaths. It's also important to experience stressors with your partner that you overcome, so if you have a high school sweetheart, you should see how you two handle college, long distance, studying abroad, or getting two jobs. You want to know that you have the conflict management strategies in place for a healthy, successful marriage down the road. >While the current average ages to get married are 29.8 for men and 27.8 for women, the best age to get married and not get divorced is between the ages of 28-32. By contrast, the worst ages to get married, in terms of impacting the divorce rate, are ages 20-24>The study was done by Nick Wolfinger, a sociologist at the University of Utah, and published by the generally pro-marriage Institute of Family Studies. It suggests that people who get married between 28 and 32 split up least in the ensuing years. >Wolfinger says the curve persists even after controlling for respondents' sex, race, family structure of origin, age at the time of the survey, education, religious tradition, religious attendance, and sexual history, as well as the size of the metropolitan area that they live in. >The kinds of people who wait till their thirties to get married may be the kinds of people who aren't predisposed toward doing well in their marriages. This also means people who marry later face a pool of potential spouses that has been winnowed down to exclude the individuals most predisposed to succeed at matrimony.
>>543418356>you have to stop women from being whoresyes.
>>543417458Because in the past leaving your husband meant death or a beating at least
The hard truth is women are disloyal whores today and they’re probably going to cheat on or divorce their husbands no matter what. Our legal system lets them. So if you want to marry and have kids you ought to get it over with early so you can move on to dating when you’re still pretty young.
>>543416807>wondering who let a 19 year old get married.>it didnt work out.She was obviously infected with the retard foid virus already then, no wonder it didnt work out. Women in the past got married at 16 and didnt wonder "who let her do it" they saw it as normal, by 19 they'd have 3 children already.
>>543418450>Waiting until your brain has fully developed (at age 25) is importanwomen's brains reach maximum size at age 11 and maximum development at age 14. men's brains take longer and don't fully develop until 25.
>>543418450The idea that brains stop developing at 25 is a deboonked myth. And you can still make rational decisions before peak development.
>>543416807narriage is a state sanctioned rite of passage to formalize a union with the intent of reproducingif you have no plans to start a family there's no reason to marry youngmarried couples with kids are forced to work out their difference whenever they fight, but if children are not in the picture there's little stopping them from divorcing
>>543416807>Are people marrying at a young age at bigger risk of getting a divorce? I'd argue that older couples are more willing to work through their issues knowing how complicated the dating market gets at 35+.She had been married for just over 10.5 years.That means she divorced at ~29.This happens.
>>543416807>I'd argue...Doesn't matter what you think. This is a question for empirical data. Find the answer then try to figure out why ( you can't).
>>543417943No fucking way, what a chad. Imagine peaking at 19 that fucking hard. No going back, not entirely
>>543417477well, they're constantly told they missed out, someone else is better in bed, etc. People who settle are battered with propaganda against their choice and when the 7 year itch arrives they cave. It's sad, really. Bed hopping does not lead to long term happiness.
>>543418356No fault divorce catapulted the divorce rate into the stratosphere. This is an objective fact. The young men today are the children of the women who abused this mechanism, and as such are not getting married at all as a defence mechanism. Those that do have a greater than 50% chance of being divorced. How often do you think divorce was a thing in the 1800's? Right. Everything else is just cope. Women are largely delusional, and when they have the choice, their dysfunction destroys the social and cultural institutions that have been around since the dawn of time, in the space of a generation. Go and look at divorce rates in religious minority communities where women don't have the freedom and choice to do whatever they want without consequences.>Monogamy itself is a recent social construct.Yes, it is the social construct that allows/facilitates the construction and maintenance of civilization, which is why every single culture on earth, separated by thousands of years, thousands of miles, with different religions, cultures, languages, and conditions, necessarily produces the same monogamistic outcomes. What you refer to as "serial polygyny" isn't actually happening on the human choice layer, it happens because people die from war, famine, disease, murder, and childbirth. It's people having to compromise with reality. That's not the same thing.>>543418450The brain is not "fully developed at 25". The process/function of neuroplasticity continues for a lifetime. Sound decisionmaking happens as a consequence of neocortex development, which in humans the final stages occur during puberty. A person at 16 has the same capacity for reasoning and cognition as someone at 30, they just have less experience. This wasn't a problem back when people were restrained by reality and parents were involved in the decision making of their children, especially women, but we don't have that anymore.
>>543418808Thanks Dr. Retard for that intredasting fact!
>>543416807>35+.chances of having an aspie kid sky rockets after 30, so you're really gonna want to have all of your kids before that.best age for a women not to have an aspie kid is 15.
>>543418947Truth. If you don't intend to raise a family there's no reason whatsoever for marriage.And not a lot of people see a reason to have a family. It's a very difficult chore with eventual rewards far, far downstream.
>>543417478I knew 2 cases where the man was clearly at fault. One fell into meth addiction and began a violent streak with a young kid in the house, the other was basically a man baby after having had a kid. Would lose a job and not look for a new one for weeks. Wouldn’t do any housework in that time or provide anything, just smoke weed. Years of that type of thing. Everyone was amazed she put up with it that long.That being said I know of many more where it was woman demanding everything from her husband, wanting to live like instagram phonies do while looking like Ozempic before pictures
>>543416807I've been with my wife for 21 years but married for 16 and the only reason I'm not divorcing the bitch is because I don't want to fuck up my kids life and also my boomer parents, both of whom met around my current age after multiple divorces keep telling me I'm not allowed because they think my wife is awesome and I'm a piece of shit (they're right)
>>543418343You genuinely don't understand what you are talking about. I don't know how old you are, but if I am generous and say that that was once true: it isn't anymore.
>>543419166the age when women look the healthiest and most attractive to men corresponds with the healthiest age for them to have children. it's almost like biology does meaningful stuff.
>>54341700019 is a fully grown adult
>>543419258>>543419276Marriage means putting up with the full force of someone else's bullshit...Forever.And everyone on Earth has a substantial amount of bullshit to put up with.
>>543418276No, not another compound word with it in it, what does "pedo" mean? What is the definition?
>>543417458Maybe things are very different now than in the past few thousand years
>>543419135The 50% divorce rate statistic isn't across all demographics though interestingly enough. Turns out that couples who are religious and also adhere to religious rigoroism (i. e participate via going to church, community groups, etc.) are something like 10-20% divorce rate depending on the denomination and religion. The women in those relationships also report tremendously better rates of happiness and satisfaction, and far lower rates of mental health issues and prescription SSRIs, etc.Basically, what women need is a rigid structure to their lives telling them what's moral and shaming the fuck out of them for immorality, and it needs to be reinforced constantly or they will ruin their own lives left to their own devices.
>>543419437You're at the wrong place for Genuine Historical Perspective.This is fantasy-land.
>>543419382A true marriage under God yes I agree. So I suppose these weren’t even real marriages because everyone involved was Godless anyway.
>>543417877It's a combination of>fomo culture>economic uncertainty >inflated perception of what their lives should be like due to social media>women promoting divorce as a pathway to happinessThey become dissatisfied quickly as a result and then start looking for reasons to blame that feeling on. A spouse is an easy target.
>>543419276Kek what’s the story there?
>>543417494kill yourself
>>543416807Pretty sure I saw data that showed couples who marry young have a lower divorce rate than couples who marry in their 30s and 40s, if I'm not mistaken.
>>543419468What this really indicates is that both have healthy social/community lives. Ladies in particular need irl immersion in a community (but men need this too) Church, clubs, meetings. It's not about discipline or rigidity.EVERYONE needs structure to their lives.
>>543419345i like hot big boobie milfy women in the age range of 25-32 but if she has good figure i could go with younger too
>>543416807Nobody is advocating for marriage except foids right now. You gain nothing and stand to lose everything.
>>543419258There are edgecases, always. A few percentage points of women are intelligent, consciencious, and can be granted responsibilities that they can take on. The other whatever-95% of women cannot. Some people lose their marbles. If we judge whole principles and institutions based on the edgecases; then nothing would work.>>543419468That's basically the argument I am trying to make. We are treating women like men, when men are held to account by reality, women aren't. All societies try to insulate women from the harshness of reality, which is fine when women are regulated by men, but this isn't the case anymore. Our societies are the most insular societies ever, and we just let women run wild and are now shocked when the fertility rate is so low we will be functionally extinct in 150 years even without mass casualty events. Those subcultures, usually religious, that keep their women in line, are doing fine. At the heart of it is women's choices and expectations. We take these "rights" away and the problem solves itself.
>>543416807People used to marry young because they had no other choice anon. Most women have choices so getting married right after high school is probably not top of mind.
>>543417478A basic truth only retards will argue against. Just like women cannot build a cathedral, win a war, form a nation or even survive predators in a jungle on their own, they cannot sustain a marriage. They're just children: fickle, impressionable and opportunistic. Civilization IS marriage and can only be built and maintained by well-trained and organized men, ideally in a military-derived hierarchy. The moment you allow women choice you're destroying everything: civilization, marriage, yourself and the women themselves, who now have to cope with being their own destroyers, which they do by blaming men because of their nature.There is no debate because the issue is so fundamental. Get a man maximally stressed and he will kill someone or destroy something to solve the issue. Get a woman maximally stressed and she will betray someone or run away to solve the issue. Stressed men ultimately solve all issues and rebuild. Stressed women ultimately cause more issue and seek men to since then. It's the real meaning of "might is right". There is no logical, moral or practical way to give freedom to women. To do so you must delude yourself and them into thinking women are men, make them do men jobs and watch as your demographics implode since to pretend to be a man you can't give birth!
>>543419335I am <35 anon
>>543417458It worked out fine in the sense that people put up with it. The same way things "worked out fine" when doing math with paper by candlelight but still ended up using computers.
>>543419699>i like hot big boobie milfy women in the age range of 25-32just make sure you meet her, marry her and have all your kids by age 30 otherwise you'll have aspie kids that'll kill you in your sleep and burn your house down.wanna have 3 kids? meet her at 23, marry at 25. 1st kid 26, second kid 28. third kid 30
>>543419839I wonder how people end up believing their kool aid like this. Youll do great by yourself in the middle of the Amazon im sure
>>543416807I don’t know many people who married very young, but almost every married couple I know became a couple at a young age. Like 21 and younger.
>>543417000>>543416807Historically, Britons and Europesns married for the first time in their mid twenties..
>>543419479People didn't traditionally marry that young in the past. However Eat Pray Love has a lot to answer for.>>543419382True.
>>543419903>>543420166From this line of argumentation, you're essentially taking a utilitarian approach, right? That one can do math without a calculator, but a calculator is better because it is faster and easier? Fair enough. Let's look at the issue of marriage from a long-term civilizational utilitarian perspective:1: The fertility rate in gynocentric societies, across all of history, is insufficient to maintain demography. The natives of basically every western/European country are at a fertility rate of 1.1-1.4 children per woman on average, with that rate continuing to decline, with the harbinger of what is to come being the East Asian societies of Japan, Korea, and China all being below 1. For reference: during peacetime in modern societies, the fertility rate required to maintain demography is 2.1. So we're at, or fast approaching, half the fertility rate required to keep going at all. That's each successive generation being half of the one that comes before. That is demographic collapse which will kill civilization. Things are looking OK-ish now, but it won't last much longer.2: Children raised in 2-parent households have significantly better life prospects than those raised in single-parent, or dual custody, households. Those raised in dysfunctional family outcomes and much more likely to produce dysfunctional families themselves.These two things alone mean that the utilitarian thing to do is to produce enough children to sustain demography, and for those children to have the best life outcomes they need to be raised in intact households. What's happening now is creating mentally ill children with no hope for the future, and not enough of them to maintain civilization. Your supposedly utilitarian line of argumentation is self-defeating. Those societies which reign in their women will survive, those that don't will not, and that's a fact. You are the one that drank the kool-aid.
>>543417478>Almost all marriages work just fine when women can't sabotage them unilaterally.That's bullshit.
>>543417000Wasted digits, unless trolling than in that case well spent.
>>543420526Go and look at every culture on earth, historically and contemporarily and look at marriage success rates for those societies where women are subordinated to men, vs. those in which they aren't. There are always edgecases, but the mean is indisputably clear.
>>543420230Are you seriously telling me that the average age of marriage for a woman in England is over 30??? Grim.
>>543419839“Male jobs” don’t exist since the industrial revolution.A woman can push buttons on a machine, and type on a keyboard.
>>543420678This is including the third world minorities who marry in their teens/early 20's too. For native populations, it's even more grim.
>>543420516For most of civilization, children were an asset, because civilization was simple, and a child could work a field with a day’s training.In complex civilization, children are a burden, that require decades of training to function productively, and all the upfront resources that requires.
>>543417000We HAVE to stop infantilizing young ADULTS.
>>543421134I don't disagree, but I also consider it to be irrelevant. There are two studies, one which I can find, and another which I can't which make the point you are raising irrelevant.https://www.mondevudailleurs.ae/en/nearly-half-of-young-chinese-women-no-longer-want-children/47% of young Chinese women don't want kids, and the rate is rising. The rate for men is less than 20%.In a second study which I can't find (so you can dismiss this line of argument if you want, but all of the other data backs it up) showed that when asked, young chinese men and women said that the ideal number of children for a family was 2.6 for men(averaged) and 0.8 for women(averaged).Take these two primary data points together: if men were in charge of reproduction, there would be self-sustaining demography. Since women are in charge, the Chinese are going extinct. The same basic principle is playing itself out in the west under slightly different forms. Since women gatekeep reproduction in gynocentric systems, the number of children they want is the number of children society has. If men were in charge of having children, there would be no fertility crisis. I would have a dozen children if the situation permitted. It doesn't. The at-use argument of children being financial burdens is secondary. We live in a time of sufficient plenty that we could choose to have a lot of children if we wanted to. But women don't want to.
>>543416807Marrying young and having children is good. Women often turn totally useless at perimenopause and menopause becoming bad mothers and wives, so the most efficient thing to do is marry young and breed young so the best version of a mother and wife come out.Once women start losing their hormones they become real pieces of shit a lot of the time.Estrogen dropping off causes vaginal dryness, reduced libido, sleep disruption, fatigue, irritability, anxiety/depressive symptoms, difficulty concentrating and brain fog. They become less emotionally resilient or more easily distressed.Progesterone dropping off leads to sleep disorders and mood symptoms. Progesterone itself has neuroactive metabolites that interact with GABA receptors, so changes can affect calmness as well. Testosterone falling off (women have up to 70 ng/dl and peak during ovulation) - gives reduced sexual desire and arousal, fewer spontaneous sexual thoughts, reduced sexual responsiveness, fatigue, decreased motivation and drive, reduced muscle mass and strength and a lower overall sense of well-being.Oxytocin depletion is harder to pin, oxytocin is a glue hormone that makes women want to keep a family together. Oxytocin participates in bonding, social salience and sexual response. The point is the woman you want as a wife and mother fades from the world as these hormones deplete.I think of a young healthy woman with proper hormones as the strong nuclear force, the binding force that keeps all those protons with positive charges in close proximity.
>>543417885>I've literally never heard of a divorce where the woman wasn't a certified bitch / frigid harpy.Agree.Its women and particularly their hormones that play a huge role in this. A dysregulated woman with hormones out of whack and no societal controls is an absolute terror and will destroy everything good because she can.My old maid is hormonally fizzling out and if she doesnt get on HRT including low dose testosterone, I need a new, younger one. The sad thing is with these creatures is they fall into the black hole but some of them have no idea they arent who they were anymore.
>>543417458>married youngMy dad was 20 and he ringed a 15 year old nearly 60 years later still together and us 3 brother are apl married with children in the only one dumb enough to wait to get married so my kids are as young as thier grandkids. Which is fine. Wr all live within walking distance to each other.This is why jews had to invent the whole pedo thing.Destroy the family.
>>543416807>Are people marrying at a young age at bigger risk of getting a divorce? I'd argue that older couples are more willing to work through their issues knowing how complicated the dating market gets at 35+.kikes marry young and are genociding and colonizing the middle east, so its pretty good for a baby boom for empire building through crimes against humanity.
>>543418356>Do you retards forget that about 50% of all men cheat at some point in their life as well?Almost always in response to a frigid bitch.Also 80% of divorce is initiated by women after age 50.Female hormone dysregulation is a huge component to this shitty behavior and the jews are feeding massive amounts of bad food t the goyim. Don you give me your horse shit about men being the cause of it, its jews, and jewish poison and programming in the female mind. You need to lear a lot more about things before you speak in this way.You know what, screw you and your pic you posted. You are God damned jew or demoralized by jewish thinking.Are you even a man? I know no man that caused the bullshit in their marriages.
>>543416807a lack of economic necessity is one of the few factors that decides about the stability of a relationship.if the woman is not reliant on the man, it's only a matter of time before she decides that all the small compromises and sacrifices you have to make in a relationship are actually intolerable and surely the guy's fault and she can do better.millionaire sports-chads still get divorced anyway because their wife knows she will get more money than she can spend out of it and there's no need for her to stay around.meanwhile, my uncle made sure to always spend all his money and have nothing to his name, and even though his wife fucking hated him, she'd have never dared to divorce him because that would have immediately cut her off from the flow of money, kek. she'd not have gotten anything out of a divorce, and he'd just have gotten himself fired instantly to get out of paying alimony.
>>543421506It's one specific to make a more general point: historical comaprisons are irrelevant because there has never been a civilization like this before in the whole of human history.Women's rights are a sympton and not a cause.ie, if you had a dozen children, then you would need to pay for a dozen college places, for them to have a chance at life.If you want the birthrate of the amish, consider that you would also have to accept the material conditions of amish culture with it.
>>543420712>“Male jobs” don’t exist since the industrial revolution.>A woman can push buttons on a machine, and type on a keyboard.lets see them do some farm work. not everything can be done with machines or from an airconditioned tractor.
>>543419468>Basically, what women need is a rigid structure to their lives telling them what's moral and shaming the fuck out of them for immorality, and it needs to be reinforced constantly or they will ruin their own lives left to their own devices.yet they need a delusion to be happy, while channers like any of us need the contrary, we need the truth. Plus those same "ladies" would get us all killed in a war for motives of their female sexuality if they could again, like in world war 1.
>>543419135 >Yes, it is the social construct that allows/facilitates the construction and maintenance of civilization No, it's a social construct that allows undesirable men access to women's bodies. Marriage is just DEI for men. >What you refer to as "serial polygyny" isn't actually happening on the human choice layer, it happens because people die from war, famine, disease, murder, and childbirth Ah yes, look at all those people in rich Western countries dying from war, famine, disease, murder, and childbirth. >The process/function of neuroplasticity continues for a lifetime Your liver function also changes throughout your life, that doesn't mean it's not fully developed at some point. >Sound decisionmaking happens as a consequence of neocortex development... The prefrontal cortex (inhibition, planning, weighing consequences, and regulating emotion) is among the latest-maturing systems. Why do you think teenagers are so impulsive? Why do you think Africans love to recruit child soldiers? They're the most easy to manipulate, not because of lack of experience but because of lack of mental capability.
>>543421906Obviously, it's matter of degree.The 1 tractor driver replaced the work of 50 farmhands, which means 49 people now have to go find something else to do.That "something else" had tended to be always less physically demanding that the thing it replaced. Over time, women's work displaces men's work.
>>543419044CheckedYou're right. 'Nam vets have to be the biggest fkn whiners on the planet. Right up there with jews
>>543417815yes it does. i was broke when i had my first kid. I lived with a relative. I upped my game with every subsequent child until I can now support 6. sink or swim put me to the test.
>>543421903This is actually one of the central arguments of why the birhtrate in Korea is so catastrophically low. Getting into one of the top 3 universities in Korea is the only way to get preselected for the short list of the big Chaebol companies in the country, but only 2% of potential applications get accepted each year. So you have a kid and have to spend all your excess income getting them private tutoring and so forth and can't afford a second kid, which is why the fertility rate is <0.7 now and still dropping. Again, I don't disagree. But I still consider it to be irrelevant to what I am talking about. If men were in charge of reproduction, there would be no fertility crisis, and the fertility crisis is killing society. Slowly right now, but the exponential decline of sub-standard birthrates accelerates. In Korea a birthrate of 0.7 means that for every adult in the first generation, they have 33 kids, who have 11 who have 3-4. That's the end of Korean society in 4 generations. We'd decline a bit slower, but the same basic principle applies.
>>543421906Anything requiring physical strength has some sort of machine to assist with that. A small skidloader with the right attachments is pretty much a mobile suit. For any obscure job there will still be one chad for every 7 women or so.
>>543416807I think anyone considering spending the rest of their life with someone else, should spend time with them. Live together for a while, with 0 help from parents.
>>543419345gross... They dance like western sorority cunts..
BBC is impactful on women, its best they get it out of their system first. ideal age to marry is 30+
>>543421989>No, it's a social construct that allows undesirable men access to women's bodies. Marriage is just DEI for men.lol. "Undesirable men" according to women. Those men are responsible, in a physical, mechanical sense, for the maintenance of society. They require an incentive to keep society going. Men who are not invested in the future of the society not only don't have a reason to maintain society, but have the greatest motivator for actively tearing society down: seeking reproductive access.You think it contrary, but actually your point isn't an argument against mine.>Ah yes, look at all those people in rich Western countries dying from war, famine, disease, murder, and childbirth....that's the point I was making. Historically the driving force wasn't the human choice layer to be promiscuous degenerates.>Your liver function also changes throughout your life, that doesn't mean it's not fully developed at some point.That's exactly the point I was making. The argument you were making was predicated on the idea that a person's brain doesn't fully develop until they are ~25, but the science used to make this faulty assertion is based on the development of the brain is still happening at that age. I was accurately arguing this is true because the brain is always "Developing" through a process called neuroplasticity, in which the structure of the brain changes across the whole of life.>The prefrontal cortex (inhibition, planning, weighing consequences, and regulating emotion) is among the latest-maturing systems. Why do you think teenagers are so impulsive?The prefrontal cortex, specifically the neocortex, reaches it's final stages of development in puberty, not in the 20's. Teenagers are retards because they're still dealing with hormonal changes, and because they're still figuring the world out for themselves as they move out of the protective bubble of their parents. It's not a brain development issue post-puberty (post-16).
>>543417478Well put. Women are emotionally children their entire lives.
>>543422684If they really want to go with the whole undeveloped brain until 25 thing, then we should raise the voting age.
>>543422498>best they get it out of their system first>not just surprising your wife with a BBC on your honeymoonJust say you hate women faggot
>>543418808>>543419345you don't have to defend women's intellect to defend pedophilia you retarded cumbrained sexpest. back then young women were wedded under the auspices of their parents, thus no wisdom on the part of the undeveloped female is required.
>>543417943Armed teenage goon burning vietnamese farmers, woah what a cool grandpa you have, tell me where he is buried so I can take a shit over his grave and venerate him as a spiritual indian he was
>>543416807>35+ kekFeels like a joke post but considering how clown world has been its hard to tell. Like its genetically safer to fuck your 1st cousin than a random 35 year old woman kek
>>543423096The irony being, of course, that these are the same people that advocate lowering the voting age to 16. Women don't actually have to make real arguments constrained by reality because they don't live in the real world. It's all about having their cake and eating it too.
>>543417477Everyone I know who has been with their partner since HS is still together 30+ years later. Every single one.
>>543416807Married an 18 year-old twink at 34. His family hated me from the start and once his aunt's cancer came back he wanted to move back to fucking Georgia from Jersey to be close to family. I said no dice because there was no way to guarantee work or sustaining ourselves, so he divorced me and now his aunt is dead lol
>>543417571When the dad has to go to a nursing home the kid will pick the most nigger infested one he can find to the dad can en joy the diversity he wants.>Oh they're beating you up?>Dats dey culcha dad.*blocked*
>>543416807Imagine getting married in the kiked West.
>>543416807This is why its popular in Germany now to pretend to be gay married and adopt female kids. They can be raised to be perfect wife material then you can marry them when they reach marriage age.
>>543418374>All divorces are caused by women.wrong. all divorces are caused by men being stupid enough to make long a term investment on a depreciating asset
>>543417494womens brains stop developing at 16-18
>>543426277The "long term investment", if you want to call it that, isn't the woman, it's the children women provide. If the subtext of your argument is that there's no point in marrying a woman outside of the context of child rearing, then I mostly agree. Moreso if the woman is older and runthrough.
>>543416807Foids treat marriage like dating now. Their retarded monkey brains can't comprehend abstract concepts like commitment, morals, or integrity. The only thing that works on them is shaming, and divorce is not shamed anymore.
>>543417458The amish don't let their daughters just choose any random dirtbag to marry. Most of societies problems can be traced to letting Women make important decisions.
>>543416807What the fuck is her thought process? She's sad that she married at 19? What the fuck?
19 is old maid territory. 16 at the latest. a wife is like a puppy you gotta train, you can adopt a grown bitch but itll never be as good as the puppy you raised yourself. largely that responsibility of the husband has been coopted by the parents. back in the day parents used to have a bribe a man to take their daughters, it was called a dowry. then christcucks sold our countries to jews and you know the rest.
>>543418343>Idk why pol seems to think that very last female is some radical feministimagine a giant toggle switch with the label "women voting experiment"someone much older than both of us, who was a man, or a group of men, worked together to turn that switch ONall of them are now dead and gonethe experiment is running and no one is there to stop itwhat if the experiment has failed?
>>543416807No, it's more a selection effect of people getting married young now that there's less pressure to do so being the impulsive people who are bad with money that get divorced.
>>543416807My wife and I married when she was 21 and I was 42. We’ve been together for about 15 years now and just celebrated our 5th wedding anniversary. It works for us.
>>543417477out of the 3 examples I know of who lasted more than 10-15 years, they are all still together
>>543416807I used to think that but it's clearly a failed argument. The marriage age and the divorce rate have both been increasing for a while. There is clearly some causality.
>>543418450> Waiting until your brain has fully developed (at age 25) is importantThis is a complete myth you redditor NPC retard
>>543416807she is just trying to get attention
>>543417458>why would it suddenly be a problemMarriage is commitment and that means you swear off others to build a life with 1 person. Women then develop massive FOMO due to our culture and even pro athletes get divorced for being "too perfect". The reality is they just don't like the idea of committing to one person, they want to whore around and sample everything and then marry a guy and have everyone pretend it's a fairytale romance that Prince Charming was the final guy on the train and the pussy just fit so perfectly he had to marry it. >>543421195Pretty much. If you can't stand up against a partner, you have zero right to vote because the government can manipulate you far, far harder. Covid proved that. Also we set 18 as age of consent, now it's turned into the new baseline and they want to go for the 25 year old meme (without giving up right to vote, drive a ton block of steel, have a bank account, opening an OF, etc.) No doubt if you say 25 is an adult they will cry how she's only 25 and only just an adult and then we need to talk about raising it to 30 or some shit.
>>543416807Its not "marry young" its "marry a young one". Becoming the surrogate father is how things used to work, not anymore tho.
>>543416807>Be 18 year old woman, hate anyone who thinks you're not responsible enough for x>Be older woman, blame everyone who didn't stop you from doing x
>>543416807>I'd argue that older couples are more willing to work through their issues knowing how complicated the dating market gets at 35+.This introduces the lofty assumption that women continue maturing with ageIn my humble experience, there is no functional maturity difference a 37 year old woman and an 18 year old womanWomen are perpetual children
>>543426704you can have children without marrying a woman. moreover, you can have children without being in america, so she cant go down to the local courthouse for custody, your house, your pension, child support, and/or alimony
>>543418450Nigger, if that happens to be the case, we should stop all tranny drugs and "treatments" on children, because their brains arent developed enough to decide.Fucking retard kike take, in my opinion you should kill yourself.
