I say this because non-Catholics/non-sectarian Christians of their Catholic/Protestant side, and Jews, were barred from joining them. To enter a guild and become an official apprentice, an individual had to swear a solemn oath of fidelity. This oath was sworn upon Christian relics or the Gospels, invoking the Holy Trinity, the Virgin Mary, and the patron saints of the trade (in the case of stonemasons, often the Four Crowned Martyrs or Saint John). Stonemasons' guilds built and funded their own chapels and masses for deceased members, and they actively participated in Corpus Christi processions. An artisan's entire social life was bound up with mandatory Catholic rituals.In feudal Europe, civil rights were tied to the Christian faith. Jews were not considered ordinary citizens or subjects; they held the legal status of Servi Camerae (Servants of the Royal Chamber). This meant that Jews were the direct property of the King. They existed outside the common civil law that governed cities and corporations. Since guilds were associations of free men who negotiated their own privileges with feudal lords, they lacked the legal authority to admit individuals who legally belonged to the king's personal estate.These guilds also operated as fierce cartels. They exercised rigid control over production rights, selling prices, and who could practice the trade within a given territory. To protect the market for Christians, medieval laws and guild statutes expressly forbade Jews from owning land or the tools used in industrial production and construction. The only economic niches left to the Jews were those the Church forbade to Christians, such as the trade in used goods, medicine, and, above all, lending money at interest (usury), all under the king's control. Confined to these subsistence or financial activities, they were steered away from manual labor and construction work.
Operative Freemasonry was founded on the transmission of geometric and architectural secrets, specifically, the art of stone-cutting and cathedral construction that ensured structural integrity, intertwined with Christian Mysticism. These secrets were passed down through generations exclusively to the sons of members or to rigorously selected young Christians. Entrusting the technical secrets behind the construction of great Catholic cathedrals to a non-Christian, such as a Jew, was viewed as dangerous heresy and a threat to the security of the Church itself.Due to this absolute exclusion within the guilds, early medieval Masonic texts (the Old Charges) reflected this reality. They explicitly required candidates to be free-born (a status not held by Jews, who were often subjects of the king) and faithful to the Holy Church (a condition Jews could not meet). Operative Freemasonry was, therefore, an institution entirely closed to the Jewish world. It was only when the Order shifted its focus away from construction, giving way to Speculative Freemasonry in the 18th century, and when religious tolerance and Deism emerged following the religious and civil wars between Protestants and Catholics (Anderson's Constitutions of 1723 removed references to the Holy Trinity, Jesus Christ, Catholic saints, and the requirement of explicit fidelity to the Church found in the Old Charges, while also releasing Masons from the obligation to adhere to the prevailing religion of the country in which they resided), that these medieval theological and guild-based barriers finally fell.
>>543418411it's symbolical, they're the ones responsible or in-charge of building up the spiritual tower of babel that reaches the Heavens so that humanity as a collective can be like as gods using their own method and will
You mean The Jesuits prior to the 1500s formation at the Sacred Heart Paris?
>>543418566>Operative Freemasonry was, therefore, an institution entirely closed to the Jewish world.emphasis on "was"
>>543418411Most likely not true. Reminds me of trust fund kids following jam bands and acting poor. Mooching off actual poor kids
>>543418411Is not that strange, you needed smart people to build gothic churches and they kept their gremial secrets because it means that they can ask for more money since nobody else knows how to built these. It was pure pragmatism.Speculative Masonry aka Jewmasonry was just the equivalent of CIA and MI6 for Anglos and their Jew friends that came with Cromwell.
Masonry before and after the illuminati takeover From christian ->to Jewish
>>543419185It should be "is". Operative Freemasonry died out at the beginning of the 18th century, and the permission for Jews to enter/Jewish emancipation into Speculative Freemasonry (which replaced the Operative style and was no longer Freemasonry in the literal sense, they were just LARPing as stonemasons without belonging to stonemason guilds and being bourgeois from other professions) and the European Society occurred in the 18th-19th centuries.To understand why Freemasonry became what it is today, one must realize that modern Speculative Freemasonry was formalized in England in 1717 (with the Grand Lodge of London). This occurred in a context where key constitutional and liberal achievements had already been consolidated and where the Industrial Revolution had brought an end to the guild system. In contrast, on the Continent, particularly in France, which expanded its Masonic model during the Napoleonic Wars, Freemasonry developed under absolute monarchies. This environment made it more inclined toward philosophical, social, and political debate and more closely associated with Enlightenment ideals of change.While the distinction is not absolut, English Freemasonry also had political ties, notably to the Hanoverians and Whigs vs Jacobites and Torias and in its early days, and French Freemasonry was not monolithic (Its first Lodges were founded by Jacobite exiles who had no idea what it would become in France), the trend is clear. Anderson’s Constitutions (1723) prohibited discussions of politics and religion within English lodges, emphasizing loyalty to civil authorities. In the Continental/liberal model (e.g., the Grand Orient de France), social and political issues are openly debated, often involving progressive engagement (such as advocating for secular education and the separation of church and state).
>>543418566>>543418566Didnt monks get hammered all day?Well god says that this is ok.
>>543420008The formal schism of 1877, when the Grand Orient de France (GODF) removed the requirement for a belief in God (Atheism), solidified the divide between the Anglo-American regular tradition (apolitical in a partisan sense) and the Continental/Liberal (political) tradition.These are the political achievements realized in England before or around 1717. They formed the basis of the Revolution Settlement (1688–1701) and made English Freemasonry compatible with the constitutional establishment, without the need for it to serve as a vehicle for radical Enlightenment dissent as was necessary in Absolutist France/Continental Europe.>Magna Carta (1215) and medieval precedentsLimitation of royal power; the king is subject to the law, foundations of taxation by consent and legal rights (expanded throughout the 13th and 14th centuries with Parliament).>Petition of Right (1628)Restrictions on taxation without Parliament, arbitrary imprisonment, martial law in peacetime, and the forced quartering of soldiers.>Habeas Corpus Act (1679)Protection against unlawful detention without cause or evidence.>Glorious Revolution (1688–1689)Deposition of James II, accession of William III and Mary II. Definitive transition from absolute monarchy (or absolutist pretensions) to constitutional monarchy.>Bill of Rights (1689)Central document. Prohibits the king from suspending or dispensing with laws without Parliament's consent; prohibits a standing army in peacetime without Parliament; establishes free elections, frequent parliaments, freedom of speech in Parliament (parliamentary privilege), a ban on taxation without parliamentary consent, the right to petition, and the exclusion of Catholics (or those married to Catholics) from the throne. Consolidates parliamentary sovereignty.
>>543420008"civil authorities"A rotten cow barn is a landscape defining building and you cant alter that.Also to renovate an opera in a fag city costs 2 billion.
>>543420438>Toleration Act (1689)Religious toleration for non-conformist Protestants (non-Catholics).>Triennial Act (1694)Requirement for general elections every three years (regular parliaments). >Act of Settlement (1701)Protestant succession (Hanoverian line); judicial independence (judges serving during good behavior, rather than at the King's pleasure); reinforcement of constitutional and parliamentary monarchy.>Other elements of the SettlementMutiny Act (parliamentary control over the army) and the consolidation of the party system (Whigs/Tories) and public debate, which already existed in a relatively open manner.These changes created an environment characterized by limited monarchy, parliamentary sovereignty, a degree of religious plurality (Protestant), and basic civil rights. English Freemasonry (linked to aristocrats, Court Whigs, and later the monarchy) could function as a society for sociability, charity, and morality within this system, without needing to challenge it. On the Continent, under absolutism (e.g., the France of Louis XIV/XV), those same lodge practices (internal equality, debate, meritocracy) appeared subversive and became associated with demands for liberty, equality, and reform.
>>543420558>>543420558I dunno if someone wants to spend 2 billion on an opera (not to build from scartch but to renovate it), for example the sidney opera "only" cost 750m and is a notch better than what some spastic germans can create, then this person has to eat dog shit.I personally think that the state employes and representatives have no incentive to be somewhat reasonable and i think the origin stems from berlin.
>>543420898>>543420898And i then wonder why bavaria has to subsidize these subhumans, why?They are dumb as a bag of rocks but not in a way that they grow big potatos they are simply useless but not like tits they bring no joy.
I don't care what they used to do. They need to be hunted down like dogs. Every last one.
>>543418411>swearing oaths>relics, virgin mary, catholic rituals>operated as cartels>geometric and architectural "secrets"if this didnt raise red flags for you you need to step up your game.
>>543418566and eating peopleyou guys always casually forget that part lol
>>543418411reminder:>the catholic church does NOT allow it's members to be masons- https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19831126_declaration-masonic_en.html>an orthodox synod has condemned masonry as incompatible with a christian's faith and practice- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_attitudes_towards_Freemasonry#Eastern_Orthodoxy>the kkk does NOT accept freemasons as members, and many other protestant denominations have also condemned masonry>hitler and mussolini threw the masons in the same concentration camps as the kikes, fags and jeets- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Freemasons#Nazi_Germany_and_occupied_Europe>the communists persecuted masonry- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonry#Soviet_Union>masonry is ILLEGAL in most muslim nations today- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Freemasons#Muslim_anti-Masonry
>>5434228071st degree>Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and buried in the rough sands of the sea at low-water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty four hours, should I ever knowingly or willingly violate this my solemn oath and obligation as an Entered Apprentice Mason. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.2nd degree>Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my left breast torn open, my heart plucked out, and given as a prey to the wild beasts of the field and the fowls of the air as a prey.3rd degree>Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered to the four winds of heaven, so that no more trace or remembrance may be had of so vile and perjured a wretch as I, should I ever knowingly or willingly violate this my solemn obligation as a Master Mason. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.also 3rd degree:>I, __, of my own free will and accord, in the presence of Almighty God, and this Worshipful Lodge, erected to Him and dedicated to the holy St. John, do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, that I will hail, ever conceal, and never reveal any of the secrets, arts, parts, point or points, of the Master Mason's Degree, to any person or persons whomsoever, except that it be a true and lawful brother of this Degree, or in a regularly constituted Lodge of Master Masons, nor unto him, or them, until by strict trial, due examination, or lawful information, I shall have found him, or them, as lawfully entitled to the same as I am myself.here's what jesus says on the subject:>But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all- Matthew 5:34
here's what the famous 33rd degree albert pike, who's book moral's & dogma was at one point given away for free to members said on the subject (in his own book):>"masonry, like all the religions, conceals it's secrets from all except the elect, misleading those who deserve only to be misled. the blue degrees are but the outer court of the temple. part of the symbols are displayed there, but the initiate is intentionally misled by false interpretation."
pike, in his book, says that 'there are piece of divine truth in all religions. jesus is a way, but he is just one teacher among many.'. he compares jesus to osiris, mithras, krishna, etc (much like that movie Zeitgeist). he says that "jahova represents divine law", but also compares him to brahman (of hindusim), and others.
here's some historic facts:- the "Bavarian Illuminati" was founded by Adam Weishaupt (in 1776). it's goal was to be anti-religious/anti-christian. it's members are known to have "infiltrated" some masonic lodges- while some of the founder of america were masons (washington, franklin, hancock, hamilton, monroe), john adams denounced freemasonry, calling it "an engine of cunning, ambition, and fanaticism"- the FIRST 3rd party in USA history were the "anti-mason party". it was created when a former mason (william morgan) was abducted and disappeared/killed after threatening to publish masonic secrets. the party accused the masons of favoring their organization above the law/republic and corrupting courts/juries/elections/etc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party)- the P2 lodge of italy (Propaganda Due), despite being regular, was found out to have among it's members: the prime minister, top generals and judges, journalists, top vatican bankers, among others. it was declared "irregular" by the UGLE when their crimes came to light (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due)just recently in france, 22 masons were arrested for assassinations btw - https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260330-french-masonic-lodge-at-heart-of-murky-murder-trial
>>543420008>>543420438>>543420558And the most ironic thing is that England was the first major medieval European kingdom to unify and centralize monarchical power, starting with the Norman Conquest in 1066. While the rest of Medieval Western Europe was undergoing intense feudal (such as France and the Holy Roman Empire) or warfare fragmentation (Iberian Peninsula during the Reconquista, where the Muslim invasion had interrupted the Proto-Feudalism of the Visigothic Era and the de facto Feudalism that took shape across Europe from the 8th and 9th centuries under the Carolingian Empire), where great feudal lords held more practical power than the kings themselves, England followed the opposite path due to the strategy of William the Conqueror.William confiscated the lands of the old Anglo-Saxon nobility and redistributed them among his Norman knights. However, he divided the properties geographically fragmented, preventing a single nobleman from building a large, continuous territory that could rival the crown. William demanded that all landowners in the kingdom swear direct allegiance to the king (Oath of Salisbury), above any obligation to their immediate feudal lords. The king ordered the creation of the Domesday Book, an unprecedented and extremely detailed demographic and economic census of all of England. With this, the crown knew exactly who owned each piece of land, what was produced, and how much it could collect in taxes. In subsequent reigns (such as that of Henry II), itinerant judges and the Common Law system were created, replacing the local laws of the barons with a single justice system controlled by the king.
and have you stopped to think how it is that the masons ("who are so patriotic and moral!") were fighting on both sides of the american war of independence? overthrowing the government sounds a little bit illegal to me, no? so how come they weren't declared irregular? on the other hand, if you want to argue that they "lived under a tyranny!!", who, pray tell, was in change of this tyranny? was it not exactly the masons in britain, those "rubbing elbows with the rich and famous", those who "have the royalty in their ranks"?
>>543418411Freemasonry is the latest incarnation of a mystery tradition that dates back to the very founding of Christianity. Before the church was even born there was the first schism.The gnostics were declared heretics, despite their sacred texts carrying the same lineage and historical legitimacy as "orthodox" scriptures.To survive, they went underground and embedded themselves within the church itself as a secret society, the church within the church.Ever since, gnosticism has been the ghost that haunts the catholic church, reappearing from the shadows periodically during times of change to punish the church for its foundational sin.
>>543418411Its not that hard if you understand the history of the times.Secret meetings and occultism were looked down on by society and persecuted by the leadership.Those that wanted to conspire in occult secrecy chose to hide their business within preexisting approved guild structures. This allowed for secret meetings to take place without raising suspicions.
>>543422983This early centralization gave the English monarchy a very strong financial and military base (which could only be done with taxes from the nobles by the King) and led English Nobility and Bourgeoisie to organize themselves politically in Parliament, where they decided that it was better to maintain the power to control the laws and limit the king by agreeing to pay taxes to finance/wars than to relinquish their political influence in exchange for privileges.Unlike the British model, nobles in continental Europe were exempt from taxes, placing the entire fiscal burden on the peasantry and the bourgeoisie. In Ancien Régime France, for example, the nobility relinquished direct political influence and allowed the erosion of assemblies like the Estates-General in exchange for retaining seigneurial privileges and tax immunity (such as exemption from the taille). The French model, where privileges were exchange for tax exemption, was also replicated in the Iberian Peninsula and the Holy Roman Empire, creating deep fiscal inequality that prevented the emergence of joint political representation for the nobility and bourgeoisie in parliament and fueled the social tensions that exploded during the liberal revolutions of the 18th century (the French Revolution began when the First and Second Estates refused to pay taxes at the General Assembly convened to resolve the economical crisis facing France at the time).
>>543423836During the Middle Ages and the Early Modern period, waging war was extremely expensive (involving the hiring of mercenaries, the purchase of weapons, shipbuilding, and the provisioning of troops). Since English kings lacked a fixed and limitless source of revenue, they relied on the approval of new levies to finance conflicts (such as the Hundred Years' War) and were compelled to turn to Parliament whenever a new crisis or military conflict arose.The cycle operated as follows:>the King needed funds for a war>parliament convened to evaluate the request>parliamentarians imposed conditions: "We will approve the new taxes, but in exchange, you must sign this law limiting your power or guaranteeing our rights."Because the Magna Carta (1215) and subsequent documents established that the king could not tax his subjects without their consent, the Crown was forced to summon Parliament to negotiate. In exchange for war funding, the people's representatives (initially the nobility and clergy, and later the bourgeoisie and commoners) demanded greater political participation, oversight of royal finances, and the enactment of new laws.This process historically became known as the principle of "No taxation without representation". It granted more power to Parliament and eventually culminated in the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution, during which the British King attempted to rule without Parliament as an absolute monarch, after which the Parliamentary Monarchy was truly consolidated.
>>543423221There were better places to hide secrets than the stonemasons' guilds. Their only advantage in this regard was that they could cross various fiefdoms without paying tolls.
>>543420008>United Grand Lodge of Englandgay>>543420438>Grand Orient de Francealso gay
