>US bond yields just surpassed the peak of the housing bubble You're watching the US hegemony collapse in real time.
>>543418611Collapse into what?
>>543418611Excellent news, this fucks nigger rich housing baron boomers, landlords, capital finance corpos, and AI slopslingers.
Highest rate in 25 years. Of course there wasn't 40 trillion in debt 25 years ago.
what do other countries bond yields look like?
Im guessing theyre holding out for midterms before they crash it. AIPAC needs their war to go on
>>543418679Collapse into a financial default, Moshe. Better hurry up and tie all the loose ends with your neighboring countries because uncle Sam and most of Europe won't be able to pay off their human drones to fight your wars.
>>543418744Not enough are asking this
>>543418711The individuals you mentioned lose money, we ,the plebs, risk losing everything.
>>543418894You better watch your tongue young man
>>543418679Collection of middle powers. Great powers not so great anymore.
>>54341914531% lower, phoneposter.
>>543418611>number goes up>chud thinks this is badLmao, stupid goyim cattle, the economy is AMAZING atm
>treasury yield rising>AI firms bubble>expensive housing>wars>energy crunchThe future is bright, anons.
>>5434186115% per year is kind of shit, gimme 7% and we have a deal.
>>543418679Yeah... I'll tell ya...So on average the stock market makes approx 7 percent growth a year on an individuals portfolio...If the 10 yr yield gets near 7... well the average investor will dump all stocks and jump into bond. A safe 6-7 percent looks tasty to investors than a risky 7 percent....and if its a 10 yr bond. They can hold for 10 years.
Basically, if everyone jumps to bonds... the stock market is kill
>>543419656I hope so, then the AI scam can finally die and we can buy computer hardware again.
>>543418611Trump never claimed he'd make things more affordable, in fact "Affordability" is a demoncrat buzz-word. Just like he never said he'd park our military in another long-running Middle East conflict. You all remember wrong. High prices don't bother Trump, he's made. Lower house/mortgage rates would upset him in fact.(This is what the GOP has to run with in November).
>>543418611>Line goes upIsnt that a good thing
>>543419586>well the average investorWhat causes this is Pensions, Endowments, Insurance companies and other mass-scale collective investors seeking steady returns. It's not people with 401k's seeking this out (unless they have someone actively managing it for them).
The oft repeated idea that bonds are "low risk" investments has been a huge mistake. The consequence is unrealized risk, which when realized, does immense damage. The lie was told to create bag holders, and bond owners are the losing game player
>>543418711I enjoyed posting this .gif during the recent day of the diesel.
>>543419836Not when it's mortgage rates, or your credit card interest rate. And America has a ton of outstanding debt on the old credit card.
>>543419836This line going up means investors expect the other line to go down
>>543419942America has never once defaulted on it's debt. So it remains the safest investment until the day that it does. We aren't talking corporate bonds, which have varying amounts of safety, and thus pay varying amounts of interest.
>>543419814We know. Inbetween the pissrael felching, she made that clear. Catch up, it's not 2016 anymore.
>OP memeflag 2 pbtid 'muh hegemony'All 160 countries rely on UST as global default reserve, brainlet.When the global debt market implodes, everyone goes with it
>>543420009>America has never once defaulted on it's debtDefault on gold debt owed to U.S. public, default on silver debt owed to U.S. public, default on international gold debt, and I'm missing several others but you should get the idea by now.>America has never once defaulted on it's debtWrong, wrong, wrong
>>543420033I like to rub it in that the guy who's never kept his word on anything in 80 years unexpectedly did not mean the words he told all of his True Believers here.
>>543419586That's 7% real, not nominal. You gotta wait until 10% treasury yields or so.
>>543418722checked, this (anon gets it)
>>543420198The important part is that we are on the cusp of a Trillionaire Class, which will usher in The Great Trickling-Down effect and everyone will be prosperous and safe!
>>543418711lol no it doesn't
>>543418744>what color are YOUR bonds>pic rel
>>543418611>>543418894>>543419586>>543419656Nothing ever happens.
>>543418611>>543418679>>543418711>>543418744this only means that a corona-like intervention happens in 2027, fucking over peoples lives but giving a few years of fresh breath onto economyif you dont believe me, look at the OP chart, and what it shows bond yields to be around year 2020
>>543420285He thinks people being unable to afford mortgages screws over landlords, be patient with him, this board is full of that sort.
>>543420327almost certainly this. In between now and a collapse is major inflation
>>543418611They finally did it huh
>>543418711are you dumb? where do you think the interest gets paid from? its your taxes handed to the corporations who can afford to buy bonds in bulk
>>543418611Two more weeks until China Numba Wan!
>>543418611The stock market is at ATH. America is winning. You lost, tranny
>>543420327>>543420354There's a major event on the horizon. Global debt market is on brink of collapse, I predicted it would be prior to Nov 2024 U.S. election but here we still are.Global debt market has been more unstable and volatile in the past four years than in half a century. Bond yields aren't supposed to whipsaw up-down like crypto or stocks; bonds need to remain steady, stable predictable and reliable particularly in the global debt-based economic model that is backed by actually fr nothing else.
>>543418744Bond yields are rising for all major economies. The only exception is China.
>>543418611>big line goes upHow is this not a good thing?
Literally all they have to do is reduce spending.
>>543420327>if you dont believe me, look at the OP chart, and what it shows bond yields to be around year 2020It says bond yields were super low...
>>543420812We're already gutting Medicaid next year (but it all goes towards the corporate tax-breaks).Surely you aren't talking about cutting our 3rd World Harassment Forces.
>>543418679Dude...i'm not trying to be an asshole to you but , the United States of America will collapse into the nation that will blame jews and israel for its decline , and it will be israels destructionLike...its so visible ...
>>543418611They were around this level, and higher leading up to the collapse of… the ussr.
>>5434186116 month t-bills were higher than that under biden, memeflag nigger
>>543419814>Trump never claimed he'd make things more affordable, in fact "Affordability" is a demoncrat buzz-word.
>>543419814
>>543418611ooof... that escalated quickly
>>543419586>They can hold for 10 years.Not this time.The USD is too far gone. There is too much debt with exactly shit backing any of it.The USD doesn't make it to 10 years
>>543418711Bwahahaaaa.....LandLord here.It makes it easier for me to pick up distressed properties. I know you don't understand, that's why you rent.
>>543420708All major western economies.
>>543418778AIPAC doesn't get to choose. All foreign countries have to do is stop buying UST's.. That's it.
>>543422409>>543422482>>543422576>>543422763>>543422825Good morning sir
Trump was right, I am getting tired of winning. Is it possible to stop winning at this rate?
>>543418611Should I sell my SOXL? I'm up 30% since August 24.
>>543419243This. The reason no one wants treasuries is they're putting all their money in stocks and crypto instead
>>543418778the free market is keeping it from rising too high so far. if inflation stays hot, it will continue to rise. i'm not saying it won't rug the economy just if you think it's going to immediately soar to 12%, you may be dreaming just like when people thought silver was going to $1000. i would be funny if were wrong but nothing ever happens.
>>543420009This is true Ameribro, until it isn't. It is getting mathematically impossible to continue.You bring in $5T in taxes each year. But, you have been spending $7T - interest on the national debt, defense, social security, medicare and medicaid. This worked because as you said, US Debt is rock solid. So, you would borrow $2T each year.Now, the world bond markets are signaling that US Debt is risky. They want more yield to buy it. Worse, many countries are selling off the US Debt. So, the likelihood of being able to borrow another $2T is all but impossible going forward. Even if the world would grant you credit, you are going to get pounded by the interest. A simple $40T @ 5% is $2T in interest only. That interest next year will be bigger than the second and third largest budget items together. I would guess if this is the path, you see the 30yr bond settle at 6-7%. You are talking about $3T in interest before Trump leaves office. It would seem defaulting would make sense, but only $9.5T is owed to foreign countries. The majority is Americans, American companies, mutual funds, social security sovereign fund, etc. It is really bad and is something to pay attention to.
>>543418611There is no limits at heaven....nor in hell.
>>543418611>thinks we can't just print more money to solve the problemsweet, gullible, newfag. The house ALWAYS wins.
>>543423542>tech bubble massively overbought>bubble bursts>economy goes nuclear winter and inflation cools>investors spy 5% bond yields> wtf, +5% is way better than a projected return of -75% on stocks>investors buy en masse>government slashes rates back down to near zeroit happened during '08 and it could happen again. smartest move might be to lock in your bonds now.
>>543423882That graph is literally the price to throw on the printer, dude. That's why you're so fucked.
>>543423882>thinks we can't just print more money to solve the problemunironically might happen when a new recession hits and we are suddenly looking at deflation
>>543423882Don't joke, that is what is going to happen. The USD$ will then go on the rollercoaster ride to hyperinflation. The good part is you debt is getting less expensive as your dollar disintegrates. The bad news is, it is the world currency.
>>543418611MUH BONDS MUH BONDSmeanwhile, nothing fucking happens and we still have to go to our shitty jobs everyday and make shitty money everyday
Fantastic, the capitalist elite, cleptocratic elite, oligarchy, tech billionaires and alt right neo fascist retards turned the whole world into a 3rd world shithole. Thank you
It's literally mooning right now.
>>543423285Why would you buy treasuries with a 5% yield when the real inflation is 10% yearly? You just lose money.
>>543424138This, the collapse of the USSR meant everyone lost their money and still had to go to work. It’s going to be a pain in the dick for everyone but nothing ever happens.
>>543424279>tf>tp
>>543424279there's one thing conspicuously missing here
>>543424138>nothing fucking happens and we still have to go to our shitty jobs everyday and make shitty money everydayIt can always get worse.
>>543420285>>543420454>>543422576Cucklords know free money is ending but "it's different this time." Do tell how you'll be fine after buying property at peak prices from FOMO.
>>543418611>>543418722>checked2 more peaks
>>543425384Show real flag or I won't bump your thread!