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GET FUCKED
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>>543438276
honestly all of that should be electives in public school.

every 5th grader doesnt need to learn how to play the recorder
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>nooo let me be in eternal debt! let me be a slave forever! fuck you drumhrrpft!!!
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>>543438486
>not understanding this will be undone after him and just make libs want to get in debt even more
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you should view every single policy Trump pushes for as being intentionally poison pilled, since that's his sole purpose
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>10 years from now: "deportations? thinking immigrants are a problem? DON'T YOU REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED WITH TRUMP!!"
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>>543438486
Why in the world would you finance someone’s social justice degree?

Why isn’t that ever the question?
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>NOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LET ME GO INTO CRIPPLING LIFELONG DEBT FOR A USELESS DEGREE IN SHIT I CAN LEARN ON YOUTUBE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>543438276
>Getting a degree in music

That's a meme.

Want to do music? Pick up instrument. Learn.
Easy.
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>>543438666
You people will be public death of culture, art, music, and comedy. Mark my words this is your end position.
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>>543438276
They should have done this 50 years ago.
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So evangelicals and "Christian scholars" get BTFO then?
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>>543438276
How will I learn to make music now? I’ve already invested so much into drill, skitzo retardcore rap. I was going to make it big but now my life is ruined.
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Time to get a useful degree or learn a trade.
>t. Someone who wants to ditch the office for a work van
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>>543438276
No more free ride, pull yourself up by your sandal straps.
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>>543438486
dont worry retard, we're all slaves forever
at least slavery is better with art and music- ohh right
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>>543438712
Fuck off you soulless nigger retard
All of those things existed before government subsidized education
I REPEAT YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT
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>>543438276
>govt please save us from ourselves
>saves you from yourself
>surprisedpikachu.png
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>>543438276
Another nail to his presidential coffin.
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>>543438276
unfathomably based
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>>543438759
Nothing is stopping you from investing in art/music equipment and watching YT videos.
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>>543438765
NIGGER
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Only rich people's kids become famous artists or musicians anyway, they can afford to send their kids to school for their meme arts degrees.
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>>543438474
Fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBC5ZprxEA0
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Germany, France, Italy, and Spain all have state funded financial programs for artists and musicians because they know that you cannot both work a fucking job and pursue either of those fields and be expected to excel. All four of those countries understand that culture needs to be cultivated not COMPLETELY FUCKING COMMODITIZED.

Youre a slow witted mouth breathing idiot.
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>>543438852
Even worse. A MIGGER.
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>>543438276
DEFUND THE LIBTARDS
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>>543438873
Yes this and so celebrating kicking the last remaining ladder wrung off of the way to reach that career is not something we should be fucking celebrating.
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>>543438666
because you're a jew and it's hilarious they'll be in debt to you forever for something that's worth nothing financially?
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I should have never been loaned money for the dumb degree that I was pursuing.
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>>543438276
i don’t understand why these degrees are so expensive anyways? it’s one person being paid poverty wages to lecture in a classroom
there’s no special materials or lab equipment needed
why does this cost so much?
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really do you get the whole "jewish" thing
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>>543438898
You can't do shit on the side?
If you work from home its even easier
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>>543439081
just, cool it with the antisemitic remarks
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>>543438276
>NO MORE FREE MONEY FOR LIBTARDS
I have never understood the "Free College for Everybody" bullshit from Leftists. If people are taking out loans and cant find good enough jobs to pay the money back why do people think the government (aka taxpayers) should actively subsidize people to do such a stupid and pointless excercise?

Clearly if you cant secure a job in the economy to repay the input cost to learn a skill; then its a bad investment no?
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>>543439081
Sportsball, Administrators, Dorms
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>>543439002
It's amusing to me that you think a music degree is any kind of rung on a ladder for poors to make their way in a field like music to begin with
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>>543438276
I don’t see anything about this on Reddit. Fake news.
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>>543438898
And yet America has produced more media than those countries in recent years.
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>>543438276
Why would you want to stop liberals from racking up massive debts? It's natural selection.
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>>543439188
And they're hardly profitable
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>>543439090
Good fucking luck dude tell that to stevie wonder or ZZ Top or AC/DC. No, unless you want to be some middling do nothing who treats doing that stuff like a hobby…you cannot do both. There are only so many hours in the day. If you are serious enough about art or music then you cannot do both. You have to pick one.
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>>543439081
Financialized economy and destruction of meritocracy.
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>>543439081
It's mostly administrative bullshit. Teachers and professors make shit money, meanwhile school administrations keep adding more and more useless six figure positions to their departments. The federal student loan program is a fucking pyramid scheme.
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>>543439157
Tell that to every single working musician in the United States.
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>>543439188
Wow a bunch of corporate slop sure is better than some homegrown art that wasn’t filtered through the system. You’re so smart….
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>>543438712
Kill yourself, tranny. We have the funniest comedians (Joe Rogan, Tony Hinchcliff, etc.), best musicians (Kid Rock, Lee Greenwood, Nicki Minaj, Forgiato Blow, Tom MacDonald, etc.), and most talented artists (Ben Garrison, Stone Toss) on our side.

You lost. You missed.
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>>543439157
it generally is even now.
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>>543439358
You’re literally shitposting and i know it. Grow the fuck up.
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>>543438735
Evangelical preachers can make an absurd amount of money
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>>543439270
If Toby Fox can do it, so can you.
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I've got a BFA in Drawing.
Probably a waste of time but on the bright side I make pretty good money ( for an artist) in my field because I am better than 85% of them. I didn't go into art for the money, I wanted to bring beauty and happiness / enjoyment to people while sharing my talent with the world and hopefully inspiring others to do good work.
Might sound corny or cliche but it's true
I've worked a shit ton of odd jobs along the way I hated every one but I finally found what I'm good at.
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>>543439118
>Clearly if you cant secure a job in the economy to repay the input cost to learn a skill; then its a bad investment no?
This is a massive problem in asia, people who only make like 10-15k a year from a job, said people will spend their younger years studying, they'll get extra tutorship, go into some college, 4 years vocational school / degree.

They come out of this making like 10k a year. They just studied for like 10 hours a day for more than a decade, combining public school time, and they have produced NOTHING so far, yet they're 22 years old and have been doing the equivalent of work for over a decade at this point.
Studying is work. People don't realize this but it's literally something that they pay you for in any job where you have to do it, we would not all make more money if we all just got forklift certified, and it would in fact just be retarded to make sure that every american was forklift certified.
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>>543439436
Tax free as well!
>>543439454
Literally who? Yeah man they sure seem like they made it if I have to ask that question!
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What does Trump have against religious studies
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>>543439506
You’re probably talking to someone who hates college as a concept because they never bothered working hard enough to get into college to begin with.
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He's not stopping people from studying anything, is he? Why do liberal-leftie OPs always have to lie?
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>>543439553
church revenue has been steadily decreasing recently.
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>>543438486
> lets make student loans expungable in bankruptcy again
> nah that would harm the jews
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>>543439553
relihow gious studies is unnecessary in the age of miggerism where judaism studies will suffice for everyone
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>>543438712
I’m sorry but normal lenders consider risk when handing out money. Allowing retards to become debt slaves to go to YA daycare for years and come out with actually nothing but networking (at best) to show for it is a retarded business move and one that’s been codified by ZOG to keep every American adult possible on the debt slavery plantation.

Now since we’re circling the drain and we need engineers/warm bodies to throw at Iran, Trump finally sees fit to address the damage of federal student loans, but of course in a way that doesn’t actually help anyone.
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>>543438712
>you need to go to college and end in six figure debt hell to learn how to draw
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>>543439391
He will never die.
He will be in office forever.
He commands all timelines.
He personally attacks you and gets away with it.
He flushed your head in the toilet in school.
He nailed the cute redhead while you jerked off peeking in the window.
He can nuke you in 10 seconds.
you lost
give up
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>>543438276
That's pretty cool
Do credit cards next
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>>543439677
You and people like you are why culture is so shit now and why all of art, music, comedy, and literature will be fully dead within a few more years time.
>>543439770
Being fucking braindead isn’t a personality quirk anon.
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>>543439391
Nicki Minaj and Lee Greenwood are two of the best selling musicians of all time. There's no more objective metric measure their greatness.
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>>543439081
Liberals love huffing and puffing over corporate greed but when it comes to university greed they act like good little obedient sheep they are.
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>>543438276
It's funny because he's actually doing them a favor. Racking up student debt is the biggest kike scam of the modern era. Saddling kids with debt before they even begin working is literally modern slavery.
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>>543438898
What "culture" has Germany, France, Italy, and Spain "cultivated" in recent decades with their government art subsidies? Queer interpretive dances and multilingual instruction manuals on how to suck off migrants or how to bull-prep your wife's boyfriend?
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>>543439813
Your life must suck dude, you sit here on pol and do this type of gay shitposting every single day and I know who you are and where you post.
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>>543438712
>You people will be public death of culture, art, music, and comedy
Yes only people that have college degrees can contribute to culture, art, music, and comedy; because that is what universities do they produce the best 'culture makers' right? I am sure a majority of globally popular cultural icons have never set foot in a college classroom, much less wasted the most creatively productive years of their life earning a degree.

You are the exact kind of midwit that supports ever stupid Democrat Left wing spending idea and can never explain how any of their current pet projects have been complete and total failures and havent accomplished what they set out to.

dumb nigger.

>>543438898
>Germany, France, Italy, and Spain all have state funded financial programs for artists and musicians
All dying economies with zero cultural relevant artists that were government funded or developed. You want to sit here and cry about capitalism? what do you think happens to culture in poor collapsed economies?

Again you are a stupid motherfucker that thinks the government putting money into something actually fixes problems.
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>>543439835
Good luck with your faggot tier semantics whike all cool stuff dries the fuck up in this country and you consume more and more ai media to make up for the lack of real human content being made, enjoy your perpetual shit sandwich
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>>543439859
Buddy you're already 11 posts into this thread and you're criticizing someone who for being on pol all day.
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>>543438712
>culture, art, music, and comedy can only be dispensed by multi-billion dollar educational institutions with massive, bloated administrative staff, stadiums, sportsball teams...

Every single dollar that comes from loans just inflates the cost of education for everyone. Not everyone needs to or should go to college. If you have been to college, you generally know that many courses are absolute bullshit, especially for subjects like culture, art, music, whatever
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>>543439900
You’re a fucking retard who doesn’t even know how trickle down economics works let alone the basics of macro economics.
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Preventing liberals from destroying themselves by going into debt fgor shit like 'black studies' is actually the least evil thing Tump has ever done.
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>>543439921
Excuse me but posting on a songle thread doesn’t prove fucking shit. Being here all day long shit posting with gay trump photos makes you a sociopath. Full stop.
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>>543438643
I think you're not understanding young men are just gonna start killing people instead of vooting if things don't turn around.
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Between this and AI STEM niggers are finally gonna feel the wage squeeze. Thank fucking God, they need the reality check.
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>>543438712
But multiculturalism has already eradicated all those things lol

The modern era produces zero value in any of those fields already. It's all corporate slop already. Ironically the decline is directly correlated to the rise of progressive politics.
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>>543438735
Yes
Stop studying bullshit applies equally
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>>543438712
That's already happening WITH your useless degree.
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>>543440004
No dude, they aren’t, they’re going to do what you do which is sit on your fuckin ass and play videogames and watch anime just like you do with your life. Wishful fucking thinking from a do nothing.
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>>543438276
Student loans are free?
If you oppose welfare, then you obviously won’t accept the $5000 check if Trump actually paid it.
I mean, you wouldn’t want to be a hypocrite, right?
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>>543439298
if you are a musician you don't need a master's degree in music theory, retard. Be like curt kobain and suck jew dick and make millions whining about marijuana and rape.
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There's no reason why university should cost what it does now.
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>>543438276
it wont matter what you have a degree in...AI and robots will replace us just like the railroad , car and trucks replace horses
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They can still study these things, they just can't pull out loans for it.

If they're so upset about the change they can always just study abroad. It's a nothingburger
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>>543439904
Flushed out the assmad r*ddit artfag soon to be sleeping in a gutter from AI job loss lmao
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>>543440041
>>543440034
You people will kill off American culture “to own the libs”

Keep cutting your noses off despite your face though…
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>there are "people" who are not only upset by this, but also think it should literally pay you to study music
Tiresome.
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>>543438712
All of the greatest works in these things were done independently or through entirely private education

All of the most forgettable works of these were taught en masse. Schooling in culture is about teaching factory workers to produce culture as a commodity. Have you been to art school? They teach a lot of "philosophy" that is literally just how they currently market rich families failed children to other rich families who buy the shit. None of it has any basis in reality. They just don't explicitly call it the meta of art marketing.
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>>543440104
Prove me wrong nigger, you literally can’t because we’re all watching it happen in real time.
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>>543440074
Fuck off retarded tranny, you're a subhuman crying about not being paid by me to study music at a time when gas prices are 6 dollars a gallon where I live. I OWN you.
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Mostly degrees sought out by women. Disenfranchising women is the goal. The kitchens await. Also, deporting the illegals and letting American women clean rich people's houses is where things should be if bitches want a job.
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>>543440125
Oh so we’re back to “only the rich should be able to make art and music” argument.
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>>543438712
Name one artist in American history who majored in English, art, etc
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>>543438712
All that shit is already dead and has been for a while. Fame and success in the arts comes from being the children of rich people and having them do you favors to get you in with insulated communities of elites who control everything culturally. It's been like this for like 40 years at least.
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>>543440099
>replace us
You can open a store on etsy selling 3d printed stuff and STLs using AI to create for you in CAD to retards too lazy to buy 3d printers, buy robots to work for you hauling stuff for your moving company, buy robots and loan them out at 25% APR to retards too dumb/poor to buy their own etc.
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>>543438712
>You people will be public death of culture, art, music, and comedy. Mark my words this is your end position.
Our culture, art, music, and comedy has been dead since the 60s. WTF do you think niggerfication was? It died the moment you started embracing nigger culture & trying to live by nigger standards.
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>>543440164
Yeah dude you’re mad because I pegged your ass to the floor with facts about your gay meaningless life.
>>543440196
St Vincent and that’s just a pop star. Lady Gaga. All college attendees.
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>>543438712
Yeah cause you need a degree for that stuff to exist lol
This theater is so boring
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>>543439081
It's not poverty wages. A relative of mine teaches English as a second language, part time, with the whole summer off, at a community college in milwaukee, and makes $120k a year.

The classes are fully subsidized too so she gets half her rooms filled with spic seniors just using it as an excuse to socialize, coming back year after year without rising through the grade levels. Very competitive to get in though and from what i hear the retards in admin are finally replacing them all with contract workers (because her and all the boomers like her are now retiring, kept their asses in the seats they needed to be in to ensure the gravy train rolled just long enough, and didn't pass those privvies onto the new blood that now as always gets fucked)
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>>543438712
That shit all died because they dumbed it down for cunts like you
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>>543440004
what this guy said unfortunately >>543440074 but minus all the "I THINK I'M A TROLL LOOK I'M TROLLING YOU AREN'T YOU MAD HAHA YOU'RE MAD SUCK IT LOSER" bullshit
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>>543439990
There's nothing "gay" about the male physique.
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>>543439954
>You’re a fucking retard
>says the guy MALDING about useless bullshit degrees no longer getting loans and he equates that with the downfall of art and creativity

Buddy, I think you may be the retarded one.
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>>543438276
>evil
You could come up with any number of hysterical crybaby labels that would be at least sort of accurate but this faggot goes with “evil.”
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>>543439081
Loans. It's really that simple. When you pour money into something the price goes up. We've been pouring money into student loans for decades now. The universities responded by expanding useless programs just to have more space for students and thus more money. The reality of university is that most jobs don't actually need it. But boomers were psyopped into pushing all their kids into going no matter what. They require it for hiring. Ignore the amount of boomers who entered industries with high school diplomas and did fine. Now they require post secondary to hire for the same job they got their foot in the door with.
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>>543440115
Please go to art school and tell me if that horseshit is american culture

It's the meta of NY/chicago art MARKETING

Do you know what college music programs do? one of two
1: They exist solely to train a bunch of people to play in an orchestra, and only a small handful of them actually will. Why can we not achieve this with private instruction, which filters out failures much earlier than shoving 50 people through several years of impersonal study?
2: They exist solely to train people who manufacture pop culture to make studios money

>>543440194
Poor people have made great shit
INDEPENDENTLY.

Most of the folk music ie: rock, blues, jazz you enjoy came to you by means of zero formal, 2/4 year degree education and died after it was integrated into the curriculum because it then became "how to manufacture culture to make money"

Creativity is absolutely absent from much of our culture because people are actually taught the meta and how to make money off it
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>>543440267
All of you are purposefully ignoring what I’ve been saying the entire time because you are disingenuous faggots. You never wanted to consider any of the good putting money into the arts may have done at all because in your mind “it’s liberal shit”

culture is dead and you people killed it with your backwards fucking retarded mindsets.
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>>543438276
why doesn't he take it a step further and stop loans for other worthless degrees? computer science and business admin are both dead end.
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>>543440306
That guy is literally a seething artfag, look at his dumb posts. He literally is mad that he's not being paid to study fucking Art.
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>>543440357
You fucking idiot

Pouring money into the arts killed the arts

The arts went from arts to mass market home decor and reproduced performances

When you pour money into something, that something decides it has to exist to make money and loses its soul

All the cool shit you like was cooked up in a garage or developed through private lessons
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>>543438276
>learn to code
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>>543440442
You people are strangling the country to death in misanthropic “trolling” and willfully ignorant behavior.
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>>543440442
this; by far vastly the best vidya coming out right now, for example, is all this indie shit, nothing AAA or "big studio" at all, where all that edumacation is
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>>543440074
>going to do what you do which is sit on your fuckin ass and play videogames and watch anime just like you do with your life.
>to do like you do like you do
You are seething and retarded. What's your degree in and how much debt do you have? I might play video games and watch anime but I have a wife and kids and a house and ZERO college debt. You don't need a degree and a loan to create art, retard.
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>>543438276
>Trump says thing
>every liberal on the planet starts screaming about it on cue
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>>543438474
Correct. Citizens are simple engines that turn labor into capital for the ruling class, nothing more. You do not deserve to enjoy anything and can only do so after you've proven yourself a useful tool and only if you can do it entirely on your own, which you never will because, frankly, you're not deserving or worthy enough for it.
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>>543439270
>Good fucking luck dude tell that to stevie wonder or ZZ Top or AC/DC.
Lol clever. A child prodigy who signed at 11, a hobby band, and a hobby band created by someone going to school to be....a commercial cartoonist. A school run by Warner Brothers.

Yeah, none of the best artists or musicians I know went to school for it either.
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>>543440524
Did you just seriously say that “videogames are art”? Jesus Christ I’m amongst children.
>>543440529
I work in finance but guess what, I also like music and art. You don’t. I can tell that by your takes. Whatever dude, enjoy that Walmart lifestyle.
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>>543440475
Mass manufactured pop culture and endless reproductions already strangled our culture to death.

Treating art as a way to get into a gallery and make money by appeasing the establishment already strangled our culture to death.

And it shut out independents who are actually creative.
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>>543438276
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IT'S ALL GOIN TO ISRAEL INSTEAD BABY OH YEAH!!!!
MAGA
MAGA
MAGA
MAGA
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>>543440115
>You people will kill off American culture “to own the libs”
I haven't done anything of the sort, in fact, I have CONTRIBUTED to the arts and have performed in several bands and booked a whole bunch of shows over the years. What the fuck have you done with your CoLlEgE DeGrEe?
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>>543440613
Sorry but my tax dollars will not go to 28 out of 30 people failing to become first chair clarinet.

All of those people can pay for private lessons which will either develop their skills far faster, or fail them out and make room for someone deserving. Colleges do not do this. Shitty players pay for the whole degree. And yet private lessons are cheaper!
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>>543440115
The
Culture
Is
Already
Dead
Holy
Shit
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>>543440194
Art and music are more accessible to the poor than any other time in history. Anyone can go get an iPad or a tablet or any other cheap ass computer, which is cheaper than a proper instrument or art equipment. With that you can learn online for free and make professional quality music and art.

Academia is the gatekeeper. There's no reason kids should be going 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars into debt. Entitled tenured professors, university staff and the rest of their ilk shouldn't be putting kids into massive debt over worthless programs. At best it should be a Youtube course and you pay to write a test for the piece of paper or to do the physical lab work.
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>>543440613
You project SOOOO HARD. I don't even shop at Walmart. You are the biggest gayest faggot ever, and you don't "work in finance" you fucking liar. No one with any actual worth would be seething like you are in this thread.
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>>543440676
Yeah dude I’m not talking to you because you don’t even take yourself seriously enough to exert any kind of discipline or work ethic to even attend college. The fact of the matter here is that you were never too good for college…college was too good for you and the station you were born under.
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>>543440744
Youre a retard and I am not going to engage with you on this because you never went to college and you don’t have a degree in fucking anything.
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Chuds bitch about a lack of appreciation for Western civilization then cheer for disemboweling any study of its aspects.
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>>543440115
Colleges have been libshit indoctorination centers for a couple decades
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>>543440761
Lol enjoy your debt and enjoy dying alone, nigger. Maybe check IDs and rethink your arguments next time.
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>>543438276
NOOOO! Muh Beyoncé Studies degree!
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>>543440808
THIS THIS THIS.

We are living under a massive brain suck and the people here saying the stupid shit they believe is proof enough of that.
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>the dismantling of education surely won't effect me, a trad tradesmen chad!
These people hate all of us and you celebrate them and upheld them like saints. We are going to enter the new gilded age where trillionaires will build one (1) library and expect you to lick the shit out of their ass crack for all eternity
Don't forget to tip.
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>>543440807
How much do you owe in student loans?
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>>543440807
College degree=left wing nigger

Maybe 20 years ago it was worthwhile
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>>543440613
>Did you just seriously say that “videogames are art”?
you will never be a real troll, you have no humor, you have no bants, you have no logic to your purported beliefs, you pretend to mine other people's salt
you are a discordfaggot twisted by misunderstanding of ken m into a crude mockery of fishing's artistic perfection
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>>543440841
Yeah man I own my own home and two vehicles while you are super worried about spending 1000 dollars at one time on anything. Shut up.
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>>543440808
You clearly haven't been to school for the arts

They teach subversion and keeping up with the high end market (jews), or reproduction based on mechanical skill

>>543440876
Sorry, but my tax dollars will not be paying for 28 out of 30 people failing to become first chair clarinet.
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>>543440613
Kike detected
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>>543440909
I paid mine off a decade ago. I had a plan. You should have a plan for that kind of thing.
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>>543440807
you've been scammed nigga
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>>543440949
Yeah no whites ever work in finance and how you know that’s true is that no one YOU know works in that field including you so it just has to be true right?

There’s a reason why you don’t have a pot to piss in. Just saying.
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>>543440928
Have you? Or did you go to the School of 4chan and Twitter to get your understanding of the world.
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>>543440919
anecdotal schmanecdotal
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>>543440928
That's okay, your taxes will go to elons kids so they can buy a bigger yacht. Your kids don't deserve to have a nice life honestly. Not until theyve done their time in the mines. If they did deserve a nice life, they wouldn't be born to a broke!
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Guess the gop aren't worried about college kid votes for midterms, not that they ever did; educated people don't vote republicunt
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>>543441033
Show me where I’m wrong, absolute morons who are cheering more money being sucked away from academia because they were never going to get their hands on any of it to begin with because they never planned on going to college to begin with.

It’s just stupid people cheering on the population becoming even more stupid.
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>>543441011
Yep this is def a foreskin munching kike

What sort of absolute fag brags to internet strangers about money
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>>543438712
>You people will be public death of culture, art, music, and comedy.
the irony here is that our friends wont tell us they are no longer our friends if we dont say the right things, like your friends will do to you
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>>543440959
Ah, you're showing your age.
The playing field is nowhere near the same for today's youth. They not only have to compete with millions (and millions) of foreign workers, they also have to see rapidly evolving technologies shred away the value of their degree. All of this happening while tuition skyrockets and jobs decline.

It's great you had a plan, but most people don't. Your position puts naive young adults in massive unpayable debt for a worthless piece of paper. We shouldn't be putting future Starbucks baristas in 5~6 figure debt.
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>>543441043
Best thing about republican women?

No cock
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>>543441125
Nigger you don’t have any and that’s why you’re so mad and depressed. Shut the fuck up.
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>>543441166
Lol this foreskin enthusiast is fucking asshurt
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>>543441163
Yeah but the same amount of mustache :(
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>>543441142
Funny thing is, this solution doesn't make anything better. It just prevents them from a horrible trap. But offers no redeeming points of actions. America will soon be Brazil tier.
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To the religious right: This shows you that Trump is not a loyalist, he will fuck you over and has no loyalties, not to Israel or anyone. Admit you were wrong. Donald John Trump is not the one.
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>>543441199
Look just randomly accusing someone of being not white is just a cope from you, dude. That only hurts your feelings.
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>>543441118
>Show me where I’m wrong
I have a 19" penis and am 8' tall, show me where I'm wrong
try following just our exchange dipshit
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>>543441222
So you enjoy fucking boys

Very kike/leftist of you
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>>543441271
If you don’t have a college degree then stop fucking talking to me. You need to be in the same economic class as me to take you seriously.
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>>543441267
Confirmed for kike
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>>543441245
They will never learn. He will force churches to replace the crucifix with a trump branded golden statue of himself and they'll still rationalize it.
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>>543441329
Awww does being called Jewish hurt your feelings awwwwwww poor my oy vey!
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>32 posts of absolute SEETHE
>Hasn't posted a single picture proving he has any money at all but talks down to others as is THEY are the poor ones

You're a jeet, aren't you?
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>>543438712
Good culture, art, music, and comedy don't come from Marxist universities.
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>>543441397
And yet you have no rebuttal because I’m right.
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>>543441271
Lol you know damn well the only reason you're celebrating is because you think this means chad non college grads will rise to the top. But in reality, the quality of life and finance in america is just going to continue to drop for everyone, you included, as more and more Americans are legally treated like cattle that only serve their masters. What kind of cuck embraces this....
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>bankrupt (but legally can’t expunge their student loans) teachers of all people

Who the fuck would pay out of pocket to be a teacher with so many niggers in the system? Congrats, you just killed both public and private education
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>>543441233
The solution at least deters away people from the trap of an awfully worthless expensive degree that they wasted 2-4+ years of their life to acquire and spend decades paying off.

Academia should be a place of open learning and exchange of ideas. Anyone borrowing from their country to study on a student loan should be there for studies that are actually worth a damn and benefit the country. Anything else should be upfront and out of pocket.
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>>543441412
They sure as fuck don’t come from conservative Christian colleges either.
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543441379
>capital j
>inane responses
He is a jeet farming for (((you))s stop replying to this brown retard
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>>543441379
Lol kike foreskin enthusiast is projecting
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>>543439081
>i don’t understand why these degrees are so expensive anyways?
govermnent ekonomiks 101: whatever you guarantee with government money, automatically becomes more expensive
this 100% directly means that as soon as the fedgov took the unconstitutional step of backstopping student loans, the # of administrators shot up, the prices students were charged shot up, the number of extras like buildings and shit shot way up, and the student is then billed for all these increases and the colleges didnt care because if the student didnt pay then Uncle Sugar was going to take out his unconstituitional checkbook and write checks until tuition prices had increased 1000%
add on to this that globohomo bureaucrats were incentivized to support it,
and you get shit like "climate science" that teaches bad not even science, you get humanities degrees that are worth $1000 a semester tops, etc, but you have to pay 15, 20, 50k to get them and then have a massive student loan bill that precludes you from owning a house because you have too much debt
this is all just to steal the wealth from the plebes
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>>543441295
>very right/left of you
what did this retard mean by this?
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>>543438276
Do any of the greatest musicians ever have a music degree? Genuinely what is the point?
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>>543441327
but I do, it's in bullshittery, and I am detecting an enormous amount of bullshit spewing like a jet from your direction
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>>543441489
>jewish projection
Wow i can do the same thing and it’s even more effective when I accuse you of being Jewish because it hurts your feelings. Poor baby.
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>>543441439
who are you talking to
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543441426
I posted several rebuttals, you're too fucking stupid to form a coherent argument. Post your living room. You do have a living room, right? Or is 8 of your cousins working door dash out of it?
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>>543441532
Lrn2read you canuckistani double nigger
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>>543441566
What bullshit, name and shame
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>>543441555
Just fucking.... Come on.... you know it just fucking DO IT
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>>543441579
Holy raptor jesus fuck this kikes sphincter is IMPLODING w asshurt
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>>543438666
Banks seem to love it.
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>>543441595
Nah dude I’m not engaging with your cringe opinions on how you think the world is. I’m into reality. Stay mad about it.
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>>543441467
Problem is, not everything is going to have an equally balanced ROI. Teachers and social workers should be going to school for free comp sci majors should be the one paying directly. Idgaf what anyone thinks, a teacher will actually try to make the world a better place, a como sci major will just make a more efficient dating app algorithm.
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>>543441600
>Very kike/leftist of you
>very right/leftist of you
what did she mean by shit
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>>543438712
You voted to import shitworlders to western countries that shit all over amazing art pieces that inspired some of the greatest artists for centuries. Fucking kill yourself faggot.
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>>543441635
>kiked out seething and projection
This isn’t that hard.
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>>543441611
>name and shame
yes, you're shaming anonymous with this really retarded notion of "trolling" you have

meanwhile my ancestors are smiling at me imperial
can you say the same
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Kike asshurt male attention whore eternally BTFO
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>>543441635
He uses a capital j and has never touched a woman's boob with her consent and he is 10s of thousands of dollars in debt.
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>>543438712
Get owned bitch. You are wrong.
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>>543441555
>Do any of the greatest musicians ever have a music degree?
differentiate "great" vs "popular/rich off of it"
there's a lot of great musicians out there
but since "making it" in the music industry meant finding a jew to favor you for the last 70 years, talent and success are not necessarily correlated
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>>543440115
American culture will be fine. You're crying about the death of Jewish culture.
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>>543441684
Your penis is when you smell young foreskins lol
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>>543441713
Ding ding ding.
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>>543441682
Yes dude I sure did and I’m going to personally make the effort to move a brownoid family right next door to your house so you are too intimidated to go outside anymore because a brownoid might make eye contact with you.
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>>543438712
Leftists already did that
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>>543441704
It's a common misconception that musicians don't have degrees. Pop stars don't. The people making the actual music, the stupid artists etc, all have very accomplished pedigrees.
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>>543441740
Ant. Wrong. No jackpots, no bingo, you lost. Wanna try again?
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>>543441752
You misspelled nigger you kike nigger
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>shes crashing out
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>>543441703
You wanna know how I am right and you people are mad about me being right? Look at all those ass mad replies to a simple stating of facts.
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>>543441752
>crashing out
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>fix the education system by making it affordable, remove worthless bloat classes, stop forcing students to subsidize athletic programs(niggers), etc
vs
>cut off money to poorfags and the middle class, hire visa workers from countries with borderline free higher education
not my problem doe
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>>543441713
>Jewish culture is when you have professionals who help provide assistance to homeless people
????
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>>543438712
>Tfw STEMfag
>Draw on par with most art class fags from picking up second hand book on sketching and art history
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>>543441791
>>543441800
ahahaha
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>>543441800
Aww don’t like it? Tough shit thin skin.
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543441641
>I'm not engaging
>continues to engage while posting non arguments, thinking he "won" anything
I have a wife and kids that love me and I have contributed more to the arts than you ever will. I have already won and you will always be a loser. If you weren't, you wouldn't be here arguing in an ocean of piss.
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>>543441840
see >>543441685
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>>543441796
>42 posts
>NO YOURE MAD

This unintentional comedy is cringe
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>>543438276
He is literally just protecting idiots from self-imposed financial ruin here...?
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>>543441805
You don't know what these fucking words mean LMAO
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>>543438712
Wrong board to air this out. This place is a shithole for 80 IQ uncultured retards.
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>>543438276
all student loans need to be ended.
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>>543441118
If you think our college system educates people, you were too stupid to understand college.
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>>543441852
If you don’t have a college degree then just shut up and take the L. The only reason why you hate college is that you never bothered working hard enough to get into one and now you’re stuck some working class serf for the rest of your life.

I didn’t do that you, the kikes didn’t do that to you, the niggers and the spics didn’t do that to you either…..you did that to yourself.

You hate college because it represents a life style you will never reach.
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>>543438712
>culture
Anime covers that
>art
Anime
>music
Anime
>comedy
Anime
And let me tell you something, anime girls look a hell of a lot better than the women who take part in the above mentioned categories nowadays.
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>>543441865
This. He's actually helping you dumbasses like the seething retard with 40+ posts itt.
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>>543441805
Excellent summary, beyond high time to stop subsidising these hobbies.
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>>543441984
If this is a joke then it’s coming from a suicidally depressed person….
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>>543441817
I bought my niece a book called how to draw realistic portraits and gave it to her when she was like 8 even though some family said she was too young for it
she was producing pro tier shit by the time she was a junior in hs
of course she has some other career now, but your point stands, you can learn this shit easily on the side
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>>543442011
You are retarded
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543441969
I don't need a degree. I have a house on 5 acres innawoods and you don't. You're a loser.
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>>543438712
>Culture
You're the people trying to exterminate european culture
>Art
You mean liberal art, which is not art, but an expression of inferiority
>Music
Like how rap getting cleaned out after USAID got gibbed?
>Comedy
At least you clowns wont be going anywhere
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>>543438486
>noo big daddy government tell me what I can and can't do with my future
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Anything with "Studies" after it should be banned. Gender Studies, Black Lesbian Studies, etc...
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>>543438276
If you want a worthless degree, then pay for it yourself. No one is banning you from studying whatever you want. They're banning you from footing the taxpayer with the bill for a cosmetic degree.
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>>543441785
Do not pass go. You owe me rent at boardwalk.
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>>543438749
my brother did this after working office gigs and spending a decade to get a bachelors and masters/credentials at prestigious universities, as well as getting into debt for ~$200k.
he did 2 years to learn a trade and now makes $100k whereas before it was only $60k with lots of take home work. now he's done once he clocks off and no longer has all the foid and office drama. he still gets digs from his male coworkers who resent him for him having university degress when they don't but its apparently worth it

its not a cake walk and he gets up early but he does seem happier
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>>543438712
I put my pants on one leg at a time but the only difference between me and you is your post
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>>543442060
They're just not paying for it. You're still allowed to get loans somewhere else.
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>>543442047
On thr contrary, educated in an actual scientific field rather than such an elaborate pseudo-religious joke.
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>>543442060
Conservative Americans LOVE to be cucks.
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>>543442055
>”haha I live in a hut in the woods like some African haha”
Coooooooollll!
>>543442059
Shut the fuck up dork, go play with your gay little warhammer 40k figures or something
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>nooooo you must pay for me to study retarded shit and end up in indentured servitude
fucking retard should be glad he's being saved from eternal debt-slavery just because he wants to study The History of Panpacifican Anal Sex
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>>543438276
Trump really hates schools.
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>>543441865
>He is literally just protecting idiots from self-imposed financial ruin here...?
100%
but, orange man bad, you see...
so anything he does, plebbitors will say its bad regardless of whether its good or not
because they follow their most upboated plebbitors like maxwellhill and listen to what everyone like that says when deciding what to believe
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>>543442092
I owe you nothing. We are not playing monopoly. You are a retard.

>>543442103
Post your credential.
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>>543442031
And guess what? You're on an anime themed and dominated site.
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>>543442112
Leftists love to rape boys
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>>543441118
Maybe it'll force academia to trim the fat (the administration departments) and actually focus on educating people, instead of forcing bullshit time wasting courses on people and having massive departments of middle aged women paid 6 figure salaries to file paperwork and stonewall students who need help because they didn't hand in form 53(a) on time.
>t. has a university and trade school degree, both were shit but trade school at least respected my time and effort, and didn't force me to take unrelated courses to "broaden my horizons"
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>>543442128
"Schools" as in subsidised indoctrination camps yes, actual schools no.
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>>543441796
Meh you are welcome to your opinions anon. Lmao just because everyone hates them shouldn't make you change. Keep doing what you are doing ;)
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>>543442132
>>543438610
>you should view every single policy Trump pushes for as being intentionally poison pilled, since that's his sole purpose
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>>543442153
>Dox yourself!
Um... no? Are you retarded?
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>>543438712
nigger none of you retards has ever created a single piece of art that will be remembered for more than 5 minutes by someone scrolling over his X timeline
you aren't funny either
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>>543442153
You told me try again? What game are we playing since you know?
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>>543442219
he's a tripfag, so
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>>543442060
>you must subsidize my degree even if the job isnt going to pay me enough to pay back the loan
the fedgov never should have unconstitutionally backed student loans
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>>543441783
Such as? Max Martin doesn’t have a music degree.
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>>543442219
No. Just paying attention.
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>>543442158
And I still say that anime is for pedophiles and troons because it is so…which one of those are you again?
>>543442194
I know I’m right. It’s what makes them seethe is the fact that I’m just dropping facts.
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>>543442250
ah, paying into it to get what you desperately need out of it, I see
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>>543439081
because it's an idiot tax
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If you want a free degree, join the military for a term. It's good for you if you can avoid dying.
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Couldn't they just make the student loan guarantee amounts different based on the subject? Like that shit cut off would get peanuts in fed loan guarantee while STEM would get the whole deal.
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>>543442257
Sure anon sure.
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>>543442231
DemSoc happy future bitch
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>>543441657
I agree, the government should pay to train teachers, but then how do you stop them forcing the teachers to be indoctrinated into some kind of pro-government mindset?
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>>543442180
that was my biggest problem with college
got there and was like wtf this is high school 2
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>>543442257
>what makes them seethe
I don't know that you've ever actually accomplished this and weren't just pretending you did like you're doing here
doubt it though
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>>543442173
Lol
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>>543442257
So you love anime

Got it
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>>543442344
kek agrees
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>>543442306
Could we change the game to battleship?
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>>543438276
Degrees in cultural history may not be valued enough by the private sector but are invaluable for the continuation of civilization
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>>543442234
Hey i like being optimistic, sue me!
...Like literally do it, it's so tiring that these faggots never cease to disappoint.

>>543442250
...Uh huh.
You never even got that far yourself and didn't realise you were asking for personal information, didn't ya?
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>>543441815
Yeah, taking money from productive taxpayers to pay for someone's education so they can take more money from taxpayers to fund "assistance" like transgender surgeries for the willfully and habitually homeless, which are almost entirely mentally ill, drug addicts, or mentally ill drug addicts, is pretty fucking Jewish. So are things like "modern art" and jazz that, like the aforementioned "social work", seek primarily to deconstruct and destroy the functional and the beautiful.
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>>543438712
>You people will be public death of culture, art, music, and comedy.
good libs are to dumb to make funnies anyways
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>>543442345
No one brought up trump yet you hop right on his cock like an obsessed lover LOL
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>>543438276
Leftists gatekept me from my art that didnt push their fag agenda i hope they die
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>>543442257
I'm the Chad
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>>543442394
>No one brought up trump
>whole thread is about a Trump policy
uh
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>>543442360
No. DemSoc happy future locked the fuck in. Good ending for everyone. Boring I know but it takes time. How much time does it take? As much time as Dario and other people need.
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>>543441327
LOL
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>>543441529
it's the same with most other subsidies, too
>subsidies for EVs stop
>sales crater
>manufacturers lower the prices by as much as the subsidies were
for whoever sells you shit, the math is simple. you are willing and able to pay $X for something. if the government offers to contribute $Y to it, then the price just immediately shoots up to $X+Y, because X has not changed at all
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>>543438276
I mean it makes sense; would anyone in this thread loan a total stranger money if you know you’ll never get the money back?
Of course not. Why should banks that are playing with other people’s money do it?
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>>543442433
>Good ending
you're going to get what you want, but, SO disappointed if you expect this
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>>543442427
Nice cope trying to cover for the closeted fag obsessed w trump
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>>543438276
alternatively, if the universities regard such things as so important. they can remove the tuition fees for these subjects. but then how will they fund their property portfolios
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>>543439161
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>>543442483
look idc about your exchange really, just saying
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>>543442457
Ramdeep graduated from a diploma mill in canuckistan i bet lol
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>>543442246
There's a reason I didn't say "every". Check out Vinnie Colaiuta.
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>>543438276
I'm pretty sure an art history degree has higher earning potential than a STEM degree now thanks to jeets
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>>543438276
Uncivilized, ignorant, corrupt, greedy dictator simp of a president makes the country look like himself. They will paint many things in gold. It's the greatest art the world has ever seen, believe me. Imagine thinking Americans ever had freedom when their political system enables a clown like Trump to do whatever he wants.
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>>543438474
If you weren't a retard you'd know that musical education is important but go on.
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>>543442483
found the libtard
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>>543438712
lol lmao even all that stuff has been in decline for like 20 years
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>>543442539
I don't think they'd whine as they do if that were true.
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>>543442330
That's a whole other topic and I don't disagree. I think education needs to be revamped, not entirely scrapped as a subsidized and well regarded field.
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>>543442539
Yeah, but you don’t need a degree to know how to paint in your own style. The greatest artist weren’t copying other people’s works.
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>>543442394
Every accusation from a rightoids is a confession.
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>>543442468
It happens everywhere the government puts money into.
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>>543442535
>Vinnie Colaiuta.
>CATHOLIC GIRLS
>kinda young kinda wow
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>>543438486
Our entire economy works by putting retard teenagers into eternal debt
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>>543438276
Does that include Computer Science and Computer Engineering? Because those two majors have really high unemployment right now. Actually all jokes aside why aren't student loan amounts a function of employability? Like if a market is flooded with workers why does it make sense for the government to fund making more of those workers. Obviously if you have the money or want to take out a private loan to study something that's your choice, but the government should be funding the workers we need more of, not that we have too many of.
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wait that part was catholic boys
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>>543442433
Sounds good anon haha
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>>543442574
Yep

Right >>543442574 there
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>>543442615
Boy raper detected

You antifa and blm nigger lovers will be eliminated first
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>>543442640
Changing the goal posts, are we? Besides, don't rightoids think underage girls are actually a good thing?
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To the enlightened intellectuals defending these awful degrees: why hasn't big academia found a way to provide these essential courses for free to people in need? Why does it require taxpayer funds and decades of debt?
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>>543441961
I know that ABET accredited engineers and programmers are educated. I know that actuaries who take an exam are educated. I know that lawyers who pass the bar have to know a wide variety of legal fields. I know that nurses, doctors, and dental hygienist / dentists are educated. Pharmacologist. Chemists. Molecular biologists. I even think that musicians are educated in music with talent that is hard to replicate without teaching (private lessons), thousands of hours of practice, and a proper education in counterpoint, rhythm, mixing, etc.

College has value. College needs reform though. Gen Ed is to make up for the fact that American K-12 is awful. Fix K-12 and make it uni a 3 year program. Fire the admin. Get rid of college athletics. Relocate the universities away from dying college towns and middle of nowhere to cities where the revenue can flow back into the economy through the multiplier effect.

Tradesmen are smart too though. Tools and Die Makers are magical. They are tragically underpaid. TIG welders who are good are basically artists. Shitting on people for doing honest work is stupid.
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>>543442747
You won't do shit.
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>>543442787
>awful
The degrees are not awful. They are valid. Heckinly so.
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>>543442779
bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVVhsOIhnMg
>Vinnie Colaiuta.
was the drummer on this album
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>>543438474
Yeah they shouldn’t learn about art, just let them grind for the capitalistic Jews from sixth grade on.
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>>543442824
Didnt open

Please try to start civil war 2.0

You nigger/boys lovers will get rekt
>>
he's literally named in that song, lol
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>>543442804
Anon, don't even bother. You're using logic. People celebrating this action are simply nihilists who want to see the system crash and burn because they don't have a virgin trad wife. There is no making them happy.
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>>543442830
If they're so valid, why do the vast majority end up in fields outside of their study?
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>>543442867
Lol won't open a picture but will totally start a civil war
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>>543438276
1) You are already only able to take out a student loan for accredited universities which is something the government controls
2) Nobody is preventing you from getting a private loan, you just can't use government money (from the taxpayers) to study useless shit for a loan you can't pay back.
3) Of course the lefty retards think that you can't study anything outside of university. Wtf does an artist need a 4 year degree for? Why does a musician need a 4 year degree? Women's Studies teaches actual bullshit propaganda, the average /pol/cel unironically knows more about feminism and gender than Women's Studies majors.
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>>543442873
Nihilism is evil. Do not fall into Nihilistic traps, even the Dolphin Nihilism is bad.

>>543442916
Education is more than just what output you can provide to the economy. It really is.
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>>543442804
>get rid of college athletics

Laughed so hard my cock detached

Thatll happen the same day they roll out the free cure for cancer
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>>543442941
This is so stupid, it hurts to read. Why are rightoids so deliberately disingenuous? You understand well meaning people see right through your bullshit, right?
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>>543442928
Please try

If you lefty boy rapers are so tough smart and rich why you waiting like a cowardly nigger?
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>>543440296
lol, which community college?
In Milwaukee, part of that might be hazard pay.
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>>543442182
We only need one book in school and that's the bible
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>>543443028
I'm not the one threatening people and saying things like "you're first"? You are literally saying that. So maybe you should be answering that question, not me. God, rightoids are so fucking goofy lol
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>>543442941
If America is going to move to private loans, they should be able to discharge or negotiate a plan for the loans in bankruptcy. That way the banks, like the government, have some skin in the game. Make this a problem for the banks and college reform will happen.
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>>543442986
The reason they act as they do is because they are incels who get no sex. If they would drop their right wing bullshit and engage in good faith, chances are they would actually get sex. But if they keep up the right wing bullshit, women are NOT gonna fuck them, this is common sense and the real world reality.

Pizzacake you aren't the only good one.
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Public school should end when you're like fucking 10 years old, only teach the very fundamentals like reading/writing/arithemtic, and last maybe 4 hours a day tops. From there people should start apprenticing in whatever they show aptitude in with other like minded and similarly skilled individuals for a few years so by the time they're roughly 16 or so they're ready to begin professional work. At that point young men (not girls) should be given starter cars which they've also been taught to repair and maintain etc. College and universities should go back to being institutions for true scholars and erudite knowledge seekers, maybe requiring a small entrance fee but otherwise being entirely merit based where you have to pass an extremely difficult and rigorous exam/trials in whatever your given field of study is to get in. No more of the equality and loan scam usury slop where the entire purpose is to take advantage of peoples ignorance and good will to turn them in perpetual debt slaves. Make Israel and Ukraine and any other foreign benefactors pay back Americans student debt
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>>543442954
>Education is more than just what output you can provide to the economy. It really is.
Not when you're straddled with crippling depressing debt in your early 20s. To see your hard work and money over 2-4+ years not be realized in a meaningful way is cruel and unusual.

These changes will protect millions from this fate.
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>>543443119
No you're a retard who is obsessed with the politics of another country, and like I have said many many many times before on this board and other places, you are a fucking embarrassment to Canada for real.
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>>543443116
>Just make kids useful tools for the elite, they don't deserve or need to have any quality outside of life other than producing value for shareholders
Lmao
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>>543443170
Even more so than me? Maybe yahtzee is more up your alley?
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>>543443223
How about Yazi Rust Terminal Application that Literally Works and is Written in Rust?
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>>543443198
That's exactly what's happening right now, I'm saying to teach them useful skills in fields of study they would actually enjoy and have passion in and build a community with other likeminded kids and masters of their craft while having more and more free time to spend with family and not be tied down by homework slop and required gen ed course debt slavery. I don't know how you interpreted what I said the way you did
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>>543443102
Guarantee this nigger faggot was one of the cowards who promised to leave america if trump won

Id bet $ he got all 11 covid boosters like a good sheeple
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>>543443268
Sounds good to me anon
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>>543443382
So what if anything do you know about Diagolon?
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Miggers are trailer park coded so this seems good to them.
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>>543443433
If i did know anything which i don't i just had to look it up lmao I wouldn't tell you. I would continue to make fun in the thread like I have been doing lmao.
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>>543443325
You already used that joke in this thread. You need to take a breathe and try again.
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THAT FUCKING FLAG IS STILL THERE LOL
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-trudeau-carbon-protest-alex-jones-diagolon-1.7183430

Y'all wanna talk about the Access Hollywood tape next?
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>>543443518
Leftists are boy raping nigger loving sheeple

Go firebomb a tesla you easily led faggot
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>>543443599
Hey nigger

Herp a derp
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>>543438712
It's already dying with AI slop
In 20 years you will unironically see Alphoomers for "mid-2020s ai slop aesthetic core"
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>>543443679
K
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>>543443681
*nostalgic for
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>>543438712
"The Arts" are fucking gay and you know it.
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>>543443170
Straight to insults and not addressing the argument.

A similar issue is happening in Canada right now where the province of Ontario is limiting student loans grants from 85% to 25% and the same kvetching is happening here too.

You're seeing your worldview and beliefs crumble around you. They only stood up before because of debt. Now they crumble from that debt not being issued.
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>>543442873
Jeez, projection much?
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>>543442395
Uncle Addy??
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>>543439954
>You’re a fucking retard
>47 pbtid

LMAO yeah I had GPT6 generate a list of the top 50 global artists and then look a look at their documented education. Essentially ZERO (5%) of the top musical artists on the planet have a college degree.

For comedians, with a tiny population size its 50% (5 people) but most of those top comedians are just Jews whose parents forced them to go to college and their collegiate degrees are completely irrelevant to their success.... Jerry Seinfeld has Bachelors in communications from Queens college in New York. I would need to do further research into comedians specifically but I can already tell due to the fact that Kevin Hart, Dave Chappelle, have ZERO college

For visual artists there may be a debate, it does appear that people that paint shit all have degrees and many have advanced degrees. Maybe, MAYBE an argument could be made here regarding visual artists that promising students should receive tuition assistance; but how does the government set up a framework for something like that? It cant.

Thats the entire problem. Idiots like you are talking about how culture is going to decline if we cant send every retard that wants to study Japanese music theory for 12yrs to school and the taxpayers have to pay for it. We dont need to do that at all, the data does not support government funding "music, comedy, and art" educations because that is not where the talent comes from retard. Talented people are successful regardless, they dont need to get some piece of paper to prove their greatness.

Once again Leftards BTFO
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>>543443768
Shitskin rapists rule you

Youve got far bigger problems
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>>543443909
>data
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>>543439518
Toby Fox is the guy who developed Undertale, by himself
Say what you want about him but he busted his ass to make what he wanted and he didn't need a degree to do it.
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>>543443298
>I don't know how you interpreted what I said the way you did
there are a lot of people who are not debating in good faith in this thread, it's actually pretty hilarious to watch the brigading here as the redditors scream about it and try to force a consensus on /pol/
My personal favourite is the obvious woman, who keeps calling people incels.
But anyone who keeps insulting strawmen they've manufactured in their minds and ignoring arguments is probably not a regular /pol/ user
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>>543443921
Race is not real. Accept it.
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And if you think there is any loyalty among the 'white race' you are even fucking crazier.
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>>543444102
And this is why nigger lovers go into the n ovens first
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>>543438712
People that do these things deserve to be shot if they dont just do it out of the box, I made money on photoshop commissions as 12 year old
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>>543444102
If race isn't real, then neither is racial discrimination or racism.
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>>543438712
It’s already dead. Murdered by liberal arts niggers like you.
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>>543439391
shitposting itself is a art, sweaty
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>>543438712
holy kek, you triggered an army of seething low iq miggers.
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>>543444306
Social constructs are still real. They still have real impacts.
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>>543444654
Youre defending one of the biggest nigger faggots on 4chan

No wonder youre a closeted trump cock enthusiast
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>>543438276
>I took a loan with X amount of interest
>I cant pay it back
>Why did you give me the loan?
Fuck these people. This is the first good thing trump has done in months.
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>>543440570
That's not at all the point and you know it.

The point is that subsidizing the teachers and art institutions is not economically viable, and there is no justification worthy of this level of subsidy.

If the arts and humanities programs were cheap/free (e.g. not paid to teach, not "free" to pay them) then they'd be more reasonably priced.

We actively need an economy that designs good manufacturing, energy production, chemical production, utilities and highway infrastructure and civil engineering, not lesbian dance PhDs and Blackrock ESG score engineers.

We also, for that matter, do not need managed funds if you're asking I take the same axe the other way. But we absolutely do need proficient mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and so forth.

Music, History, all that, are absolutely nice have. They are NOT critical to an economy, which is what these educational institutions meant to be are tooled to when it comes to the government covering the tab.

Gov fronts the bill, economic participant closes the tab. These sectors don't manage that second part. Simple as.

Also open to recapture of tuition for any student not employed IN THEIR MAJOR who sign up for a school's employment assistance (which should be a bare min req for funding eligibility).



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