why did usa lose in afghanistan?
Because we never defined victory.
>>543439641You can't lose what you never had.
Who didn't?
>>543439641Their soldiers weren't brave enough to actually go into the mountains and clear out the caves with infantry.
>>543439822mughals
>>543439641>women and goats fucked>men killedNoone lost there. They just packed up and left, like everyone else. Got the tshirt and all that.
>>543439641Because now they are free
>>543439822Alexander
>>543439641lost too much izzat with elvis presley or micheal jackson or n-sync they would ve won.
The monees ran out and CIA found a new source of opium closer to the motherland back in the "new world".Being a bumbroke collapsing poorfag empire going through internal cold civil war trying to conquer a mountain of goat herders with rusty AKs on the other side of the globe is not an affordable task.
>>543439641Biden did the opposite of Trumpturns out the opposite of winning is losing, who knew?
>>543440211retard>>543440051wtf is izzat
>>543439641After america lost the war in Vietnam, they made a deal with the new Vietnamese government that Vietnam would do wars for america, and Vietnam kept its promise to do wars for america.America is so paranoid, it was afraid of Cambodia taking over the world and having universities that can find out how evil america is.So america bombed Cambodia with more bombs than the they spend in the entirety of ww2, in conjunction with a Vietnamese invasion of the country.Remember when Pot Pot killed everyone with glasses?Yeah.The Red Khmer were highly educated students from France who had just overthrown their american puppet-regime.Mad with impotent rage, the americans bombed every village in Cambodia, they don't care, they've just invented killing fields in Korea, Vietnam and Taiwan, so killing a couple million Cambodians isn't any different.Except it kinda is, because someone's gonna ask where all the Cambodians went and Vietnam doesn't want that kinda blood on their hands, so we'll do it the only way we know, and blame it on the dead guy.They killed themselves.What does any of this has to do with Afghanistan?Well.Like the embarassing route of american forces out of Saigon, the retreat out of Kabul came at the cost of doing a war for america.Afghan was going to die for americans in Iran, but they failed, almost as bad as the american bombing raids.America did try to do another ww2 style bombing campaign over Iran, but they failed.America totally tried to kill as many Irans as they could, they just literally weren't able to.
>>543440748Universities in countries that america doesn't controll are very dangerous to america, because if you have a place with smart people who learn new things,they are inevitably going to learn that america burns millions of women and children alive all the time and have an opinion of that and americans for one reason or another, I just don't know, americans somehow think that opinion will be very negative on america and americans.Could an american explain this to me?What is it about burning millions of women and children alive that makes you suspicious that someone might not like you?
>>543439822MIC, Israel and uhhhhh maybe China.
>>543441085This btw is why america keeps blowing up universities in every country it doesn't control.Blowing up the Minab girls-school wasn't a mistake, its standard american doctrine.The only reason they go oopsie is that people found out.That was never something they thought about, the plan was to blame it on the fallen goverment and terrorize the people into submision and falling in line with the lies the americans tell.
>>543439641Joe Biden pulled out before the job was finished
>>543441344you are dumb
>>543441266First we kill your family, then we tell you that your family was evil and also how could do such an evil thing, why did you kill your family, we need to kill you now.This is american doctrine, its a very jewish doctrine.Whats funny about jews ist they will genuinely believe their own lies because their brain doesn't have the same ability to empathize as real humans with souls.Its something genuinely alien to them, they can only mimick it like a chatbot trying to pretend to be conscious.When jews lie, it just replaces objective reality to them.The "but it was real in my mind" is actually them speaking the truth.But if you have an empire which is governed by people who are unable to form an objective reality, you get an administration and a real and substantial portion of banks and investors who will LITERALLY believe the Iranians have no control of the straight of Hormuz.Insurance companies will totally allow large tankers to transition as normal and have a full on picatchu face when it gets blown up after several very real Iranian warnings.And everyone literally believes we won, when we obviously did not, and they will buy and sell and invest acording to a reality they made up.This is gonna go great.
>>543439641Because we have ridiculous rules hobbling us, if we were allowed to just kill civilians and raze their cities it would have been a one sided slaughter
>>543441344Do you see those people?Those are people who truly believed the americans were good, they believed america was forever.They believed america could never fall, never fail, their military is invincible.Look at them squirm, look at them run, look at the panic in their eyes.Basically this is gonna be Ukranians in a couple of years.>How could people not like america?!?The picatchu face heard round the world.
>>543439641The shadow cabal behind Biden wanted the US humiliated.
>>543441845You're totally allowed to just kill civilians and raze their cities, you do it all the time.You're just not able to anymore beause your entire leadership has aids from fucking each other in the ass in the gaybars around the pentagon.
>>543441845browns like OP have a double digit IQ and have a difficult time understanding that it was a police action and we couldn't just kill all of them and call it a day, but we should've
>>543442014The US is humiliated for having homosexual politicians livestreaming themselves fucking each other in the capitol.How embarassing.
What would "victory" in Afghanistan even look like? That it becomes a Christian republican democracy with a 1st world economy? The entire occupation was pointless, as the reason we even gave a fuck was that Osama bin Laden was hiding there, but he fucked off to Pakistan and then we killed him a decade later... and then stayed in Afghanistan for another decade after that.
>>543442204Skill issue.
>>543442114No, they tried to do regime change so they could create puppet states, should have went door to door executing every single person inside every single house and then burned them to the ground. A few collateral damage kills isnt the same thing.>>543442204We should have exterminated all of them, what a blunder
>>543439641Because we weren't willing to literally kill every single last human being that may or may not be the Taliban and commit massive war crimes. Terrorists survive by hiding themselves within civilian communities.
>>543442390Wow that sounds so badass, too bad you totally failed and lost tho.
>>543442520We failed, but thats ok, the jews will finish the job.
>>543442459Weren't willing?Oh you didn't want to win?You wanted to lose?Ok.Got it.Can you try to win next time?
>>543439641Basically because we chose to. Expenditures and combat deaths were down -- the latter to single digits for years. Then Trump decided to surrender Afghanistan to the Taliban, basically. He negotiated behind the Afghan government's back. Literally. They weren't a party at Doha. If you ever wonder why it collapsed so dramatically, it's largely because Trump blindsided them and sent morale into the dumps. Then, of course, Biden then decided to go along with the withdrawal Trump had already started. Trump slipped him a poison pill.
>>543442563Ok, when?In two more weeks?two more years?
>>543440050Didn't he die a couple years after entering Afghanistan? I'd hardly call that a win. Especially as his army had to retreat taking massive losses from enemies within and without.
>>543442815Who knows? But they dont have pesky morales to get in the way of their genocides
>>543442863He died because of some disease that put him in a comatose state and his people thought he was dead
>>543442900Ah, ok so they aren't hindered by morals, they're just hindered by skill.
>>543439641Because it’s cheaper to lose a war than it is to win one
>>543443032Good thing they have ai
>>543442983He was poisoned so his generals could carve up his empire for themselves.
>>543442359>sat in their country for 20 years playing police and they couldn't do fuck all about itthat's how pathetic you browns are, i wouldn't babysit you, i would kill every single one of you worthless sacks of flesh melt you right off the face of the earth
>>543443083Aren't they asking china to please stop developing AI because people are just using it to ask about israel and jews?
>>543443182Theyre just trying to trick others into slowing down so they can get further ahead, they want to monopolize ai and be the ones in sole control of it. And when they are you better expect a global genocide against the goys, and I cant wait, really looking forward to it
>>543443143But why didn't you tho?Were you held back? Were your shoes untied?
>>543443283Which is rather self-defeating since they use other nations AI research and engineering as their own instead of innovating or making their own.
>>543443283Cool.How long will you wait?
>>543443346Because I wasn't in charge, but I will be one day and I'm going to kill you and your ugly, stupid, dysgenic family. I'm not babysitting you browns or niggers, you're done.
>>543443385Thats just jews being jews, theyre destroyers not creators
>>543443447Cool when?I'll wait.
>>543443437Another year maybe, then its time to check out
>>543439641>why did usa lose in afghanistan?Never fight a bunch of goat herders in the mountains. It doesn't go how you think it's gonna go.Russia lost.America lost.And America's gonna lose Iran, for the same reason.You can't glass a mountain range. You can't even nuke it really.
To put it simply?Ignoring all matters of strategy, troop quality, equipment and so on?The fundamental reason that sits at the heart of it all?Resolve.The Taliban simply wanted it more than the USA and kept fighting until the USAs resolve was broken. Once this was achieved the USA accepted its defeat and left.This is how any war is won at the end of the day.Wars are rarely won on the field of battle. They are won when the resolve of one side is broken and they choose to lay down their arms and accept defeat.
>>543439641As long as there's no pipeline or railway connecting Iran with China through Afghanistan, the US as won (i.e. attained its primary strategic objective)
>>543439641Unwilling to do what it took, unwilling to admit that that meant they should have retreated and tried a different strategy instead.Afghanistan is perfectly subjugatable and muslims in particular aren't that hard, hell there are literal colonial era manuals that have worked for centuries.But the thing is you're gonna need to get your hands dirty and have the stomache to just pacify villages that think they can lie about their support for the enemy.And yes that would have cost millions of muslims their lives.
>>543439641weak
>>543444395Theres a reason none of the surrounding nations have taken Afghanistan over the centuriesIt's simply not worth the effort
>>543439641afghanistan is controlled by the Taliban (funded by US) operating under a hard-line Islamic political system. the mission was a complete success
>>543444519Precisely, they could have known that in advance rather than pretending they would be like jews in that billions get transformed into at least some sort of competence and capacity.But no they had to try to indulge their belief that reality can be tailor made to their will.
