Why the fuck did he fly to fucking England, our archnemesis, to beg for peace?Was he fucking retarded? He embarassed us in the whole world and acted like a schizo.The noble he talked to wasn't even important or connected to power in any way.
Very low IQ
>>543441722He realized Hitler was a Zionist infiltrator and tried to save Germany from total destruction. Hitler was always zionist controlled opposition in order to create Israel through chaos. Order out of chaos.
He was baited, with the promise of an actual peace deal. It wasn't the erratic solo mission it's presented as.
>>543441795You're not any better>everyone warns Stalin Germans will attack>ignore it>Germans actually attack>"its just a provokation, ignore it">get almost genocidedBiggest pussy in history
>>543441937Hitler knew about it, signing off on his trip, but informed him that he'd deny any knowledge if it failed.
>>543441722>England, our archnemesisnot true tho! a jew inspired war, using jew inspired lies!
47 years in jail.Meanwhile the pedos are free.
>>543442008Zionist revision like the chimneys at auschwitz
>>543442040
>>543442053It's the opposite. The idea that he did it all on his own is the jewish line, and has been for 80 years.
>>543441722The guy was a bit simple in the kopf.
>>543441987There was even some communist German that defected to USSR and warned about the invasion. And Stalin just imprisoned him cause he thought it was a lie. He was a weird fellow. Actually Stalin, Hitler, Tojo were all collosal retards, which got he world into the mess WW II was.
>>543441722He wanted british cock is his big booty while being a prisoner in bdsm dungeon>you're an incel you wouldn't get it
>>543441722He was into the occult and believed he had a vision in a dream that told him to do it. He chose May 10th because of the alignment of the planets at the time.
His mysticism addiction fucked him up it's why Hitler banned occult right after he crashed
>>543442281Stalin was a rationalist. He really didn't believe the Germans would do such a retarded thing. He was wrong. The Germans are true retards.
>>543442393Heil hitler
>>543442393Hitler wrote in his own book he was going to do this at some point. Come the fuck on.
>>543442519heil your ass. Hitler caused the death of more Europeans than anyone in history. He doomed Germany to eternal jewish enslavement.
>>543442528I think Stalin made a stupid mistake for a man as shrewd as he was. I think he thought that the people around Hitler wouldn't make such a terrible mistake. Again, he was wrong. But Germans are repeating the same thing now and I guess some in Russia don't believe they will be crazy to do it again. I think they are.
>>543441722Nazis actually believed that grand gestures can sway the forces of determinism.
>>543442597I think most Germans didn't take that race stuff too seriously. They needed someone to take them out of the mess they were in and Hitler managed to do that for a while.
>>543442393Hitlers logic was that nobody after him would ever have the balls to conquer new Lebensraum. He had to do it himself and in his lifetime. And he wasn't getting any younger. And the USSR was only getting stronger. He wanted actually to do it even earlier.
natsocs were notoriously blind on the eternal anglo question
>>543442584someone post it.
>>543442393Germans literally did it in 1918
>>543442714Hitler listened to nobody but himself, Stalin should have known that. And Hitler had already made the imbecile move of invading Poland, so Stalin should have known he had a peanut brain. But for some reason he ignored the obvious and it resulted in a disaster. In some ways Stalin was smart, but man, was he a moron when it truly mattered.
naivety.
>>543442393>>543442528>>543442714>>543442281Stalin fully knew Germany was going to invade, he was hoping it wouldn't be in 1941. The entire disposition of the army was to ignore any type of provocation at all costs in order not to give pretext to a war. Apart from that they did mass the army at the border like retards, in one huge line which was ideal for Blitzkrieg and subsequent massive gains of the Germans. The entire situation leading to 1939 hung on similar dispositions from other countries, mainly Britain: they did not want to oppose Hitler first because they had the most to lose by starting a war. So when it would be much easier to crush Germany, they did nothing, along with Soviets who wanted Imperialists to fight one another. Both the invasion of Czechoslovakia and the Battle of France relied on extremely fortunate sequence of events for the German army, especially regarding their overstretched fuel lines. Stalin's worst blunders came in 1942 when he launched poorly prepared counteroffensives; on the other end, Hitler almost lost the war in 1941 because he ordered his troops to stand firm in front of Moscow and his generals actually disobeyed his orders and retreated at the very last moment; he would have only the Stalingrad army if they stayed a week longer.
>>543442855Indeed, he was a megalomaniac nut. >>543442905He was very smart. I think his state after the war started says everything. He was in shock, as you say, how he allowed it to happen. But, that's history.
>>543441722His intentions were pure but the mission was misguided. Imagine what the world would be like right now if Britain and Germany just didn't fight each other in WW2, or WW1 for that matter. It actually makes me nauseous thinking about what they did to us all.
>>543442982The Russians are brave fighters and had luck (and God) on their side. Russians usually start wars on the bad foot as we can see today but they always manage to rally and win.
>>543442905Germany was overcrowded. We HAD to invade new living space or forever remain a meme country. It was pure desperation. We wanted to be relevant the US or China, not meme nations like Spain.Btw, your birth rate was crazy and that's another reason we had to do it. Otherwise there would be like 300 million Russians today and nobody wants that.
>>543442855Lebensraum in itself is a completely nonsensical idea. Basically you would have German ruling class at Roman style country estates and millions of Slavic labor toiling in cities around them. It's a pretext for disaster and if you asked Nazis how would they prevent mass slaughter by the slave class vastly outnumbering them, they would answer 'we would not teach them how to read'. Seriously.
>>543443010>His intentions were pureno they weren't. He wanted to enslave Russians and other Slavs and rob them of their homes and countries. Fuck him and anyone who thinks he was a savior or a hero. Because of him Germany will never be a free nation ever again.
>>543443146>China >relevantHello chang
>>543443146>Otherwise there would be like 300 million Russians today and nobody wants that.this is all one needs to know to understand the mentality of the kraut. He is an arrogant and stupid creature when all the masks are removed.
>>543443010There is the theory that England became jewish, because their jewish community was historically always tiny. They had no immune system against it. In continental Europe there was always tons of jews. We knew about them.
>>543442982>he was hoping it wouldn't be in 1941You can't just hope things in politics. When you are on the brink of a world war, you cannpt afford relying on hope alone.
Imagine wanting to "ally" with that sick and twisted island of witches, cults and pedophiles.
>>543441987Stalin didnt ignore the warning he just didn't believe it was going to happen at that date precisely. If you sent your troops somewhere based on fake Intel the enemy could just attack from elsewhere
>>543443265That's just some internet tapeworm. They are always edgy when behind the screen. Real life germans are different.
>>543443292Some say that the mistakes of geniuses are always much more terrible. Stalin was a genius.
>>543443245They have the largest population on earth which makes them practically immune to being jeeted or genocided. They are winning. This is exactly what Hitler wanted.Not some childish world conquest, but simply being so fucking massive that you can survive for centuries.
>>543443388i'm starting to think that they are all the same. Stupid stuck up Helmuts.
>>543441722Many among the Nazi high command were compromised, or direct assets for either the anglo powers or the bolsheviks, but not Rudolf Hess. Hess was intelligent, sincere, relatively well informed, and most importantly, very close to the Fuhrer, whose inner circle the Allies had already managed to infiltrate quite extensively in 1941. So Hess himself had been a bit of a problem for their plans all alongA second problem for the Allies was getting the Nazis to actually attack the USSR, as had been the primary objective since they started propping up Hitler in the 1920s. Yes, they were well aware of the plans for Barbarossa, but there were doubts whether Hitler could be pushed to go ahead with it, especially in light of his aversion to a two-front warSo with the Hess psyop, the Allies hit several birds with one stone. They got Hess out of the way by using anglo agents within the Nazi structure, i.e. the jew Albrecht Haushofer (son of Hess and Hitler's mentor Karl Haushofer) as well as the already well developed 'peace party' charade in British politics, to persuade him to negotiate (or even help organize a coup) in Britain They replaced Hess with Soviet asset Martin Bormann, who would remain Hitler's trusted confidante up to the very endAnd they lulled the Nazis into a renewed phony war (the Blitz ended, in fact, the very night Hess flew to Britain) so their puppet Hitler would feel free to attack the USSR as intended
>>543441722You imagine how fucking insane it must be have been involved in all that shit, just to at the end one day sit down and realize "I think Hitler might be fucking retarded , oh shit, i fucked up so bad, oh shit". Fuck me, i shit my pants when i forget a bill, imagine that shit.
>>543443414Living under a totalitarian dictatorship that was set up by international finance and openly denies you basic rights that we still, just about, take for granted in the civilised world is not winning, chang. Neither is having state mandated abortion.The West is going downhill fast, yes. But China sucks. It will continue to suck. That's why such a staggeringly large number of their kind GTFO permanently at the first opportunity.As for being immune to getting jeeted, oh, you sweet summer child. I remember not so long ago they said that about Japan.>but china is differentWe shall see.
>>543443398Stalin's smartest move was splitting Poland with Germany. That was the moment he won WW II.
>>543443200That's ironic coming from the likes of you. Your jewish moralizing rings a bit hollow in the big 26 chief.
>>543443265I hope you're using a VPN or that would be the most ironic post I've ever seen. The whole reason Israel has gone full mask-off chimpout today is because demographics will drown them if they don't establish lebensraum.
>>543441722Always thought it was weird, he went there trying to contact the Duke of Hamilton but that obviously wasn’t going to work out.
>>543443388Nothing edgy about what I said. The Finland war was only possible because Russia had so many people. Ukraine war is only possible because Russia has many people. Being too many Russians in the world is almost never good news.
>>543441722Why does he have the schizo phenotype?
Rudolf Hess was born in egypt
>>543441722Lolwut? Given that Germany lost the war in the most horrible way possible, to the point of still having the east of their country occupied by Russia's rape-babies, wouldn't it seem that trying to surrender earlier would have been a visionary good move?I mean, he might not have gotten anywhere, but in a Germany where everyone in the new elite was burning the country down, that's one guy TRYING to save it...
>>543443451I've met actual Germans. They are ok mostly. Just a bit autistic.
>>543444458Why would Germany surrender in May 1941 when it was approaching the peak of its power? He went there to try to negotiate to get the UK out of the war prior to Barbarossa. Little did everyone know that the UK was willing to sacrifice its existence to defeat Germany.
>>543444736>Little did everyone know that the UKBritain stated numerous times they would go to for over Poland.
>>543444736Least of all us. Including Churchill, who hit the bottle even more heavily afterwards and died campaigning to "Keep Britain White". There really wasn't much threat to us militarily at all once America entered the war. The post-war consequences were probably not in the fine print of whatever contract he signed.
>>543441722Because Churchill had an order to cease communications with any German in order to prevent a peaceful cooperation, winny jewhill wanted a war with his jewish focus group
>>543444736>when it was approaching the peak of its powerBecause the way the Nazis did things, they were always going to hit a "peak" and then fall.That "peak" was the exact time that all the critical flaws that would destroy the system are visible to the people inside it, but still early enough to prevent total catastrophe if something is done.You have to actually give a shit about the country to care about that tho.Nazis worshipped victory, not Germany.
>>543445502Nazis worshipped Germany.
>>543445576Nazis chanted the name of their true god routinely.>Sieg Heil. Sieg Heil. Sieg Heil.Whatever platitudes Hitler told the Germans about their racial superiority, the Germany elite placed themselves just as high above the German people as they placed Germans above others.That's the dirty secret. The entire system is a satanic pyramid scheme of slavery.
>>543445502>Nazis worshipped victory, not Germany.This. Germans were just a resource to be used. Once they stopped being useful Htler left them to die and went on with his life. They lost of value and thus were no longer needed.
>>543445576>>543445841Oh, also note the prominence of "defeatism" as a crime as the war went worse and worse.It wasn't just for morale, it was sacrilege to their satanic religion.
>>543441722He wasn`t in his right mind
>>543445936What was he supposed to do? Praise them for losing? Hitler also fought for 4 years in WW1. After that he fought for 15 years to get into power. And then 12 years against the whole world. He had the right to demand sacrifice, since he sacrificed his entire life for Germany as well.
>>543446529Delusion.Protip: The trappings of what it takes to seize power in this way and keep it completely invalidates any notion of a "well-meaning dictator".They are ALWAYS parasites that use their countries as personal tools.Its a level of selfishness that is literally unthinkable to most of humanity, and so people like you will make up fantasies about "he had the right".
>>543445841>Germany elite placed themselves just as high above the German people as they placed Germans above others.At least they were honest about it. The American elite larps as your best friend, despite seeing you as braindead cattle. It's very cringe. But they're right: Normies are retarded cattle. Smart people either leave the herd or dominate it, but they're never part of it.
>>543446529Mind showing a photo of Stalin wearing all those medals?
>>543446681There is a difference between a dictator like Kim Jong Un or Lukashenko who only do it for money and luxury and ideologues like Hitler who genuinely had a mission and goal. Hitler only did it for Germany.
>>543446698>At least they were honest about it.Absolutely no they weren't. They may have "projected a sense of superiority" or whatever, but it is an ironclad rule that a corrupt elite must ALWAYS obscure the nature of the relationship.Germany simply never would have served the Nazis if it had ever been fully clear to them that, "You are slaves who exist for our ambition, not yourselves anymore".>>543446912>Hitler only did it for Germany.You said it yourself right here: >Hitler who genuinely had a mission and goal.What was that chant again? Sieg HeilAnd what did he do when the mission failed? The fuckin' Nero Decree.Literally ordered Germany to destroy itself as a punishment for its failure.Hitler used Germany, and now Russian rape-babies in the east of the country cope about it.
>>543441722He was a mans man and has been completely justified by history
>>543441722He was desperate to boost his profile with Hitler. He was being slowly cast out of Hitler's inner circle by Bormann. Hitler would pair his ministers and close allies with rivals so that his rule would never be challenged. Hess believed that his mission to Scotland would improve his standing with Hitler by getting England out of the war since Hitler was an admirer of the English and get one over on Bormann at the same time.
>>543447079>um acktchually germans were slaves And here comes the redditor telling us to accept jews raping our kids and endless mass migration
>>543441722Because he wasn't a total satanist and he wasn't in the club, WW2 was a satanic mass sacrifice controlled by satanists on all sides, Hess was a lower level elite and didn't understand why the British royals and the nazi regime would go to war if they were such good friends (which they were), so he attempted a peace mission not knowing the plan was to destroy both countries and slaughter both populations, this is why Shitler condemned him and called him a schizo and he was punished by the UK for attempting peace, then later Shitler was shitcanned by the satanists after the slaughter was finished because they always eat their own.Although Hess failed in his peace mission, he might have succeeded in the long run by shortening the war, by exposing what a fraud the whole war was and exposing both sides for their warmongering and disdain for peace, and also warning of the soviet menace planned to rise by the satanists.Hess may have been an establishment agent, but he didn't want the total slaughter and destruction of both countries and for that he was punished by both regimes because he didn't go along with the fraudulent war of mass murder.
>>543447079>Germany simply never would have served the NazisIt was a mutually beneficial arrangement. The pleb gets a sense of meaning, purpose and being part of a greater destiny and greater project. People need a reason to live, otherwise they get depressed and empty. There is a reason Hitlerjugend people look back with nostalgia.People think it was like>"Go die for Germany you dog."when it was much more like>"Let's fight and prove our bravery.Ja! Germany! Sieg Heil!"People, especially indoctrinated youth went into war with happiness. What's wrong with that? Everyone benefits.There is nothing crazy about the Nero decree. Soviets used scorched earth tactics as well. Hell, they did it against fucking Napoleon. So no idea what you are on about.
>>543447488>shitlerWhy are you jews so obsessed with poop?
>>543441937>Migger>Tranny>White women badCan you jannies leave threads alone?
>>543442893>literallySomeone buy this anon a dictionary.
>>543441722Based Assad phenotype.
>>543447343>Hitler drove Germany into complete and total ruin>And then ordered Germany to destroy itself for not turning his stupid plans into success>But this was obviously a statesman who cared deeply for his countryAgain, you have to have that IQ hit from being one of Russia's rape babies to not grasp this. That's why East Germany is full of nazis still. That Russian blood is too dumb to learn. (which is a funny reality, given the "nationalism")>>543447516>It was a mutually beneficial arrangement.Yeah, the soviets said the same.>"Let's fight and prove our bravery.Ja! Germany! Sieg Heil!"And here's what makes you stupid, subhuman filth: It was Germany's elite that filled their heads with that shit in the first place.And why did they do that? For THEIR OWN AMBITION!Again, there's no argument that Hitler gave a shit about Germany when he orders the country to destroy itself and then commits suicide to avoid consequences.Failure to learn is far more shameful than your country having a bad leader.
>>543447488Checked, the funny thing is despite the schizo christcuckery with muh satanism, you're closer to the truth than any of the dumb faggots ittNow ask yourself why Hess was subjected to literal mkultra type treatments? why was he locked away for the rest of his life? and why did the nazis respond with Operation Hess?
>>543447516>Hell, they did it against fucking Napoleon.Difference is - that was being done with plans to actually win in mind. Hitler ordered all of this when Germany had no realistic chance of winning anymore. There was no point in any of that apart from sensless destruction of the country.
>>543441722Otto Skorzeny presented his theory in his memoirs, which seems adequate to me>Hitler wanted to make peace with Britain so he could focus on the East>Britain's abdicated king was interested in starting peace talks>Because it could be a trap to get a high ranking German official, Hitler sent Hess, who had no real political power and was essentially expendable, with the knowledge that he would have to denounce him as a traitor to save face if it turned out to be fake and gay>Hess arrives, literally says he's there to try and work out a peace deal>thrown in prison for the rest of his life under ironic accusations of crimes against the peace>refuses to apologize at Nuremberg, literally says he would do everything the same if he had a do over
>>543448250>sensless destruction of the country.And destroying the country is what it would have been.People don't appreciate: If you physically destroy the arteries that allow necessary logistics to happen in a country, that country literally ceases to exist. The cities depopulate and it just empties out.
>>543441722test
>>543441937>>543442053>I was permitted to work for many years of my life under the greatest son whom my people has brought forth in its thousand-year history. Even if I could, I would not want to erase this period of time from my existence. I am happy to know that I have done my duty to my people, my duty as a German, as a National Socialist, as a loyal follower of my Führer. I do not regret anything. If I were to begin all over again, I would act just as I have acted, even if I knew that in the end I should meet a fiery death at the stake. No matter what human beings may do, I shall some day stand before the judgment seat of the Eternal. I shall answer to Him, and I know He will judge me innocent.This is well documented and yet retards like this will make assumptions like that lmao
>>543441722Agreed. You should commit seppuku to spare yourself of more embarrassment.
>>543448066>Hitler fights the jews>jews get America and England to destroy Germany >"why would Hitler do this"Since youre too stupid to grasp this very basic concept it doesnt seem worth it to continue discussion with you>>543448554To be fair its a memeflag, which means jew until proven jeet
>>543448066>For THEIR OWN AMBITION!Just like everyone else in history? What is your fucking point?You can be both ambitious and care about your nation.
>>543449618I dont think he has a point
>>543441722
>>543442393Also Stalin was massing to sneak attack Hitler first, which was why Barbarossa so effective at first, because the Red Army was deployed in staging and not defensive formations
>>543441722He was a goddamn hero and deserved the Nobel Peace Prize but instead was rewarded with life imprisonment in solitary confinement. Retards like (You) wouldn't understand.https://files.catbox.moe/ywlehy.mp4
>>543441722i consider his imprisonment to be the most evil act in modern english history
>>543449618>Just like everyone else in history? What is your fucking point?That its literally the opposite of doing the right thing for your country.You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Real strength is created through growth, not theft.Its as simple as that.Making yourself an adversary to all is "Satanic" in the most exact metaphysical sense, and Germany went to hell for it.
>>543443158we would just deport your their worthless asses, same way Stalin did with millions of slavs
>>543441795>>543441937>>543441939>>543441987>>543442008>>543442008>>543442281>>543442393og look another russian bot threadthe attack against the soviets was a preventive warthey were amassing millions of soldiers, tens of thousands of tanks and airfields in offensive positions on the german bordersame way they did before the Ukraine war>>543442584the only one killing millions of Europeans currently are russians
>>543441987Because Stalin didn't believe that Hitler would be retarded enough to start the war with him without being done first with the bongs. It was understood that a big war on both fronts is a very bad idea at that time given the fact that this what actually happened in ww1 and the military generals on both sides were there 25 years earlier.It's funny how retarded you can be when you depend on your enemy's rationality.
>>543453545the british were unwilling to make peace, there is little Hitler could do about it within a short period of timesure he could have gone all in on Britian but the soviets were building up their army and preparing for warthe longer he was waiting the stronger they would get
>>543453545It was so retarded, that it almost worked.Without land-lease it may as well have. Hitler didn't think capitalist would spend billions of their own cash to fund communists. It's too absurd.
>>543441722Jewish thread. I'll take the opportunity to post Mr. Heß' statement at the tribunals:>I was privileged to serve for many years under the greatest son my people have produced in their thousand-year history. Even if I could, I would not want to erase that time from my existence. I am happy to know that I have fulfilled my duty to my people—my duty as a German, as a National Socialist, and as a loyal follower of my Führer. I regret nothing. If I were to start over, I would act again just as I did, even if I knew that in the end a pyre would burn for my death by fire. No matter what people do, one day I will stand before the judgment seat of the Eternal One. To Him I will give account, and I know He will acquit me.Sieg Heil you dirty kikes
>>543442393DEATH TO PAEDOPHILIADEATH TO YOUDEATH TO YOUR FATHERDEATH TO YOUR MOTHERDEATH TO YOUR FAMILYDEATH TO JUDAISM
>>543454088Checked
>>543441722>>543441795Hitler was part Slavic so he felt racially inferior to the british and he tried to prove himself as White by being soft on them, bending over backwards for them.Hess was a Hitler follower.They should have known that the German people are the only people on Earth that are able to improve the world for all people and not just their own tribe.
>>543441722he was smart enough to know that invading russia without taking warm clothes was a dumb idea
>>543443286Ultimately this
>>543443010we didnt "fight each other"they tried to destroy us twice and the only reason some of them think otherwise is because of the shitskinsthey would do it all over again, if they could
