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>>543443870
But what about all the science books? What about Bill Nye?

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to join the leading secret society you have to believe in a higher power

God made Adam out of dust from the earth

Darwinism is explicitly mentioned in the Protocols as a tool to deceive and corrupt the """goyim""".
Seethe atheist faggots.

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>>543444058
>what about bill nye

Poll to see how smart /pol/ is:
https://strawpoll.com/NPgxeJEYPZ2

>>543443870
God is still fake and gay and doesnt exist and isnt needed for any process in the universe.

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>>543443870
Lots of material and links in the previous threads
In case you really care and are interested, have a look there
>they lie and twist EVERYTHING - but they would never lie about evolution. Certainly they would not lie about evolution xd

https://xenosarc.substack.com/p/from-a-mathematical-and-logical-standpoint

>>543444296
>but they would never lie about evolution
the process probably works differently than what the mainstream jews are shilling.
but still, no jew god is needed to make any of this work.

usually people only reject God so they can fornicate, be selfish and evil without a guitly conscience
not because they want to do good or be moral

>>543444296
also buy an ad

>>543444058
Wait till you find out the middle eastern fairy tales are fake too.

>>543443870
>If evolution is fake
Its so absurd how out of date the evolution debate is. Evolution doesnt fit any of the data we have and was rejected decades ago. It was replaced by punctuated evolution. Which fits the historical data much better (a cyclical disaster wipes the slate clean allowing for rapid speciation). But this too dosent fit the data so it was rejected and replaced by evolving punctuated evolution. Slow but observable changes over centuries, with worldwide disaster wiping doing most of the evolutionary change.

Evolution doesnt work when the carrying capacity has already been reached.

>>543444201
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>>543443870
But it's not a question you're actually interested in asking or answering. You've already decided that it can't be true because your worldview depends on it not being true.

>>543444296
>Evolution is impossible
>Calculates it's probability
Well that idea fell apart pretty fast. It's clearly possible. Should have named the damn article "evolution is unlikely but not impossible"

>if x is not real than y and z might be surely real
What a retarded reasoning is this?

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>>543444581
also has to do with the earths magnetic field, the earths frequency and massive electric discharges in the atmosphere.
basically a perfect case study for this is the wallace line.
while conventional jew biologists argue about rising sea levels and land bridges they ignore this much more potent driver.
large scale planetary electrical discharges.
Its highly probable that these geological rifts arent just tectonic but were carved/enhanced by massive plasma discharges or electrical scarring.
this leads to the core mechanism of rapid speciation: electromagnetic genomic induction, when the surrounding environment undergoes intense electrical fluctuations driven by shifts in the earths magnetic field or atmospheric plasma activity it creates high energy gradients across cellular membranes.
these surges drive structured non linear changes in DNA/RNA expression through bioelectric signaling.
once the local frequency normalizes after a discharge event the genetic code "locks" into its new morphological state.
this explains why we see sudden dramatic jumps in biodiversity at specific geographical boundaries rather than a slow continuous transition. this also explains why every animal is adapted to its surroundings and why so many different species exist.

>>543444328
>thats not even what it is saying.
The hell it isn't. Somewhere in chapter 9. KJV
>"And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting."
Not a demon. Can't be exorcised. He's speaking about epilepsy, but that word/concept doesn't exist yet. You're a tard. Full-blown nigger AIDS leven of mental retardation. In an earlier era, you'd have been institutionalized so the rest of us wouldn't have to put up with you.

>>543443870
Evolution is just a restatement of causality with some half-baked teleology thrown in. It's not that serious.

I'm still interested in talking about this shit; I just don't really have a stake to claim ITT yet.

>>543444581
Wouldn't mind learning more about this though.

>>543444644
not an argument, also I accept your concession.

>>543444742
also none of this requires at any step a jewish circumciser entity to be real.

>>543444785
What makes you so confident that God doesn't exist. What created the Universe?

>>543444581
>It was replaced by punctuated evolution.
It's almost as if rough theories are slowly but surely refined as more is learned. Perhaps that's why biblethumpers hate evolution (and science in general) so much... it's often difficult or even impossible to come up with the perfect answer on the first try, which they reject as un-divine. Science will need to try harder, I guess.

>>543443870
Bacteria proves evolution

>>543444876
>What makes you so confident that God doesn't exist.
no process in the universe requires it.
>What created the Universe?
its an infinite open system thus it doesnt need a creator.

>>543444747
>Not a demon. Can't be exorcised.
are you stupid or something, it says so a few lines earlier.
25 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
what do you think a foul spirit is? do you not know that to exorcise spirits you need to fast and pray?

>You're a tard. Full-blown nigger AIDS leven of mental retardation. In an earlier era, you'd have been institutionalized so the rest of us wouldn't have to put up with you.
your a full on schizo, seek help. you cant even understand a few line of text.

>>543444782
>Wouldn't mind learning more about this though.
"life is comprised of meta-slaves who play the optimised builds until a patch drops and everyone scrambles to discover the new meta"
there you go

>>543444967
>no process in the universe requires it

First cause. Something that breaks the rules came before everything else. Doesn't necessarily have to be God, but something is breaking the rules of reality. Enlightened minds (not to be confused with (((enlightened))) minds) typically try and figure shit like that out.

>>543445215
>First cause
isnt needed in an infinite universe.

>>543445215
>Something that breaks the rules came before everything else
Special pleading.

>>543444962
cyanobacteria are said to have been around for billiions of years and they're still happily producing our oxygen
why would anything even evolve beyond that? it's the perfect lifeform in evolutionary survivalist terms

>>543443870
Evolution is fake but the people who believe in it will never admit it. It's a faith just like all the other religions and it's more than likely a Jewish creation to cripple Christianity.

>>543445363
>a certain type of bacteria
>argue that instead
Bacteria proves evolution. There is zero proof for the existence of king david king solomon, moses, abraham, mary, jesus, aiysha, or muhammed.

>>543445363
>why would anything even evolve beyond that? it's the perfect lifeform in evolutionary survivalist terms
Because there's no choice in the matter. Mutations are random, chance events. An organism can't say "I like it in the niche I'm in, I'll stay". If the mutation(s) is advantageous enough, they migrate to the new niche that is enabled. A better question is "why would there be other niches"... and the answer to that is "because the universe is complex".

Life will expand to fill all possible niches on a long timescale.

>>543445255
>infinite
So something that breaks the rules of reality. Thanks for agreeing.

>>543445315
Do you have an alternative explanation...?

>>543445022
>25 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
>what do you think a foul spirit is? do you not know that to exorcise spirits you need to fast and pray?
And then...
>And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately
Almost as if there were answers for two different groups of people. I guess that I'm reading the answer for the apostles, his inner circle, and you're reading the part for the dullards in the crowd that demand spectacle.

>>543443870
The thing that makes my doubt about evolution is the fact that humans seem to be the only species that "evolved" to have morals,science and technology despite there are older species than us: why don't we have reptiles with teleportation technology?

>>543445363
>So something that breaks the rules of reality
thats not breaking any rules. the universe is simply infinite and doesnt require a creator.
>Thanks for agreeing.
I dont agree with you.
learn how to read good.

>>543445744
Cus that's not how evolution works.

>>543445744
>why don't we have reptiles with teleportation technology?
why don't we have niggers who can understand how they would feel if they didn't have breakfast

>>543443870
Evolution is fake

>>543445655
The current cosmological model holds up pretty well. It even predicted things that we had to look for, like the expansion of the universe and Cosmic microwave background radiation. The big bang theory predicted those things, and when we investigated, they were actually there.

>>543445677
you stupid fucking nigger ape, his disciples simply didnt know how to cast out the demon and you come up with this retarded conspiracy theory or whatever that is not supported by scripture.

>“Teacher, I brought my son to you, for he has a spirit that makes him mute. 18 And whenever it seizes him, it throws him down, and he foams and grinds his teeth and becomes rigid. So I asked your disciples to cast it out, and they were not able.”
>“O faithless generation, how long am I to be with you? How long am I to bear with you? Bring him to me.”
>23 And Jesus said to him, “‘If you can’! All things are possible for one who believes.” 24 Immediately the father of the child cried out[d] and said, “I believe; help my unbelief!” 25 And when Jesus saw that a crowd came running together, he rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, “You mute and deaf spirit, I command you, come out of him and never enter him again.”
>“Why could we not cast it out?” 29 And he said to them, “This kind cannot be driven out by anything but prayer.”[e]

how hard is this to understand for you? the disciples lacked the know how to cast out a specific demon and thats all there is to it.

>>543444201
Just bc you're afraid of your Creator doesn't mean He doesn't exist.
You just have a guolty conscience or a weak neurotic psychological profile - you fear not being in control of your life and you are right you are not but that's unavoidalble. You do get to make choices though and live with the consequences. It's called free will.
Also
>so you are jewish, only jews write "jooz",
I am not and that is objectively false.
>this explains a lot.
It does. Lacking arguments you cling to a word, construct a false premise then deflect with a mix of straw man, ad hominem and nin sequitur.
Funny considering evolutionsm and atheism is pushed hard by jews and their leftist minion. And only midwits fall for it.
>also your circumciser god isnt real.
GOD is real and He is not a "circumciser"
The Creator does not instruct His Creation to mutilate itself. That would be pointless. Unless maybe He wants to punish them somehow but even so does not directly instruct that rather takes away their reason.

>>543446068
you are jewish so you are automatically retarded.

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>>543445255
in order for that primordial infinite to be differentiated an intelligent first (and third) cause remains necessary

>>543446127
not really, intelligence is emergent and not inherent.

>>543443870
what you believe is god is a jewish subuhman interpretation of an intelligent concept that jewniggers cant grasp. its santa claus level, christmas is real but santa is fake.
all of this is real but your interpretation of it trash. angels are as real as mall santas. immaterial realm youre already in it, its all the immaterial things you own.

>>543443806
>building blocks
You mean elements like hydrogen and carbon?
Yes

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>>543446181
yes really.

Unironically try dmt

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>>543445215
The reasoning is circular because the chain is a circle. Time itself has no beginning, but every beginning exists in time. The first eye opened only to bear witness to unspeakable horrors. Or maybe the first mouth opened to scream. I'm not a scientist, so I couldn't tell you.

>>543446181

You don't know that

>>543446217
no.
>>543446275
reminder time is simply a secondary measurement of movement and not some extra dimension.

>>543445852
I'm not talking about the Big Bang. I'm talking about whatever caused it.

>>543445752
>the universe is simply infinite
That doesn't seem possible.

intelligence does not "emerge" from matter, intelligence organizes matter in order to manifest itself

& naturally, robots will be unable to comprehend this.

>>543446288
yes we know that. non equilibrium thermodynamics proves it.
>>543446394
the big bang never happened, jews made it up because they need that first cause or else the infinite universe has no room for their fake god.
>That doesn't seem possible.
its very possible and its exactly what we see.

>>543444947
At some point science ends and metaphysics takes over, it’s inevitable, and your statement proves it since you just attempted to posit science as a philosophy and metaphysics that claims to be the ultimate source of truth, which science itself does not claim.

>Science: It’s all based on biology and physics!
>Metaphysics: Those are too parts of intelligent design!

And that’s where the role of science ends, it can demonstrate how protein folding obeys the laws of thermodynamics for example, but it cannot explain where those laws come from.

Nor can it claim that it’s the ultimate source of truth because that statement would be an attempt to turn science itself into a philosophy, that is a set of behavioural principles, but also to metaphysics, instead of a tool of measuring, quantifying, and modeling the physical object of study. And then a philosopher would simply end the argument with “then prove that science is true using the scientific method” and expose the circular reasoning.

kundalini energy is intrinsic to every human
there is no evolutionary purpose, it only makes you more spiritual and enlightened
you won't learn about it in biology class

>>543446399
no its non equilibrium thermodynamics that organize matter from which eventually intelligence emerges.
all it takes is a gradient and as a result complexity stacks up.

>>543446523
>but it cannot explain where those laws come from.
they dont come from anywhere.
its just the most efficient way of dissipating energy so it organizes that way.
no circumciser jew god had to set this up.

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>>543446512
"jews made up the big bang... for jehovah" is an insane take, given that there are attested cosmogonies in all cultures. you lost all intellectual credibility

>>543446647
>its just the most efficient way of dissipating energy so it organizes that way
That doesn't contradict design, why are the most efficient way? That still suggests design.

>>543446741
yes the big bang idea comes from a religious retard who was a priest.
but the big bang didnt work out and jews are still coping about it.
>>543446743
>That still suggests design.
not really

>>543446596
that first intelligence (spirit) by necessity precedes the thermodynamics: again, you haven't solved differentiation of the infinite, which requires a first cause. your theory is fatally flawed

>>543445022
Thing you will find in the bible
-- talking animals
-- magic
-- unicorns and dragons
-- a global flood
-- a flat earth
-- brutal religious laws (stone your child to death for disobedience...etc)
-- slavery, sanctioned by god
-- genocide, sanctioned by god
-- god killing children
-- ""god"" appearing wreathed in flame, billowing fire and soot, shaking the earth

What you won't find in the bible
-- instructions for how to live a noble life, though you might be of low birth (in the writings of confucious)
-- how to comport yourself and be true to yourself (stoic philosophy of Marcus Aureleus)
-- how to think logically and work through problems (writings of Aristotle and Plato)
Or basically anything useful you might apply to live a better more fulfilled life. Instead the text repeats ad nauseum "obey god, obey god, obey god", because god really wants mindless worshippers I guess. Or would that be Rome?

>>543446647
>circumciser jew god

Is there a reason you can't get this particular strawman out of your ass?
The idea that a being that we'd call 'God' is anything like a human being is silly. Such a being would have to supersede human intelligence by definition. I don't get where this idea that God is just some guy overseeing the planet/galaxy/whatever and demanding foreskins is coming from.

>>543446848
The gases of an engine come out the exhaust because it's the way of least resistance, the most efficient way out, that however doesn't disprove that it was designed that way.

>>543446596
Let's assume this is true (last time I checked the arguments really did not convince me but whatever):
You replace God with a God-principle. And a God-principle can turn easily into conscious God. Bohmian mechanics, conscious pilot-wave, thus faster-than-light information exchange/updates via entanglement... even from your point of view one can easily argue into this direction.
God did it vs God did it according to some meta-organizing principle isn't so different (even though you'd disagree).

The Shroud of Turin is another point:
https://rentry.org/shroud-of-turin-27042026/

>>543444201
It would certainly take a miracle to save you from being such a retard

>>543446867
>that first intelligence (spirit) by necessity precedes the thermodynamics
no it doesnt work like this.
>which requires a first cause
nope no first cause is needed. your fake jew god is still fake and gay.

>>543446512
>its very possible and its exactly what we see.

I thought that 'what we see' is that the Universe is about 93 billion light-years across and 14 billion years old.

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>>543446892
>instructions for how to live a noble life
follow the commandments set by God.
>how to comport yourself and be true to yourself
circumcise you heart and be humble.
>how to think logically and work through problems
the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord.
all the books of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes deal with this.

>>543446908
OP shills a jew slave religion and jews, muslims and christians worship the same made up god which comes from Saturn worship.
>is just some guy overseeing the planet/galaxy/whatever and demanding foreskins is coming from.
so what is a God even needed for?
every process works fine without one.

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Shroud of Turin:
No one knows how a supposedly medieval "forgery" has chemical and physical attributes that can't be replicated even in modern labs (obly on tiny patches of fabric)

>>543446916
replace the engine with a river.
does every H2O molecule need to contact a centralized jewish authority to ask for permission to flow down that hill?
no.

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>>543447141
>worship the same made up god
No
This is why I posted this
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1790629021886592.jpg

>>543446984
>via entanglement
isn't a material phenomenon, its a statistical observation derived from the way quantum equations behave when you solve them.
there is no physical stuff connecting those particles. no field, no particle, no wire, no signal.
it is literally nothing happening between two points and yet jews call it a real phenomenon.
that is the definition of a mathematical delusion.

>>543446995
cope
>>543447056
>and 14 billion years old.
a made up jewish number which changes all the time because jews cant explain how the universe works (because they are stuck with their fake god idea).
thats also why they invented dark matter and other nonsense like this. these are patches for a failing big bang theory.

>>543447280
doesnt prove anything.
if I wipe my ass with some rag and say god made it it is not a valid argument or proof of anything.

>>543445954
>you stupid fucking nigger ape, his disciples simply didnt know how to cast out the demon a
Let's examine your attitude for a moment. Several possibilities come to mind:
1. Epilepsy didn't exist 2000 years ago, though it does now. How likely is that?
2. Epilepsy did exist 2000 years ago, but you believe Jesus with his magic god powers was too much the imbecile to recognize it.
3. People had epilepsy, but when they heard an itinerant Jesus was wandering around healing people, they didn't bother to seek his help.
4. Though epilepsy existed and though Jesus was able to help people with it, you choose not to accept this plain reading of the chapter because someone you disagree with it had this one little atomic insight even though you wouldn't have to accept any of his other arguments. Because more important than evidence is your feelings, and you want to feel as if you have all the insight, and no one else has any.

Which is it, germoid?

>>543447141
>jew slave religion
Don't the Jews literally write that Jesus is boiling in shit at the bottom of Hell in their most sacred Big Book of Pilpul and Fucking Over the Goyim? Don't they hate Jesus enough that they won't even use a normal plus sign in math because it's cross-shaped? Why do you think it's a kike slave religion, exactly?

>because the jews weaponize it against the goyim
They're Jews. They weaponize EVERYFUCKINGTHING against the goyim.

>>543447480
>a made up jewish number
What the fuck you just said that 'what we see' is that the Universe is infinite. I assumed that meant that you were using some fucking scientific method of measurement. The fuck are you using if not astrophysics?

This is getting annoying now. if there's no God, no scientific origin for the Universe, and no metaphysical 'Prime Mover' or whatever, then what the fuck do you even believe in?

>>543447207
Yes it flows down because it was permitted to within the grand scheme of things.
>centralized jewish authority
God isn't jewish.

>>543443870
Why can't we selectively breed zebras from wolves?
Because random mutations that aren't destructive are SO RARE that their effect over a long time leads to a LOSS in information, not an increase.
And this should not surprise us, since it is consistent with the second law of thermodynamics (entropy increases, order decreases).

>>543447559
do you think you can "get me" with your kike pilpul.

epilepsy always existed, Jesus was known for healing people by casting out demons, a problem second temple jews were familiar with since they were already practicing the casting out of demons.
the man brought his son first to the disciples who were unable to cast the demon out because of the lack of knowledge.
Jesus took pity on the boy and cast the demon out immediately because he had the authority of God and commanding spirits.
the disciples were amazed and wondered why they could not do it.

thats it. not need to insert some kind of conspiracy garbage on your own end.
the demon caused the epileptic attack and was cast out by Jesus, nothing more, nothing less.

>>543446908
>Such a being would have to supersede human intelligence by definition.
Actually, I don't think this is a necessity. I suspect that there are spirits. These things aren't necessarily more intelligent than a human. In many cases less so. Humans may have chosen to worship them throughout history, and both those humans and the spirits thought of themselves as gods. These spirits aren't particularly powerful. If they know more than humans, it's because they can go unseen... they potentially know some things secret to some people. They can do little more than play tricks, in the physical sense. They often believe their own lies.

This is, incidentally, consistent with everything that folklore has always said about both gods and spirits. When Yahweh claims to be the creator of everything, he might just be saying that. He wouldn't have any idea himself where the universe came from. No special insight on anything, come to that. Maybe he just likes the sound of it when other people say it.

>>543447955
>Actually, I don't think this is a necessity.

It kind of has to be, though. You're right that it's not technically a matter of intelligence, like the way we'd measure IQ or something, but whatever these entities are, they would exist in a way that we're currently unable to. Whether this is something intrinsic (e.g., the nature of having a non-corporeal form, being indigenous to some higher or lower dimension, etc.) or something learned, it's still something we currently lack for one reason or another. Maybe the kike sorcerers at the top have some knowledge of it, or maybe they're larping just as much as us filthy peasant creatures are. I don't know. But it logically follows that something that transcends our physical limits would also transcend our mental ones.

>>543447183
>No one knows how a supposedly medieval "forgery" has chemical and physical attributes
There are simpler sciences that make this laughable. When someone is tracing the provenance of some work of art, we can tell quite a bit about where a thing shows up and when it's totally lost and know one knows where it was. When we trace the shroud of Turin, it doesn't act like this at all, it appears out of nowhere... the only other art/relics/whatever that do this are invariably fabrications made my con men.

Where was the Shroud before it showed up in Italy?

Or how about those sciences that tell us how cloth is preserved or decomposes? Fuck, let's use common sense. So Jesus was wrapped in this cloth (which doesn't radiocarbon date to 2000 years ago, but he wakes up dead, and what exactly? Tosses it in heaven's hamper until the angels make a delivery in 1350. Why did they wait so long?

Would Jesus have even approved? Does he strike anyone as the kind of guy who, centuries later, wants idiots and reprobates scraping around trying to find true holy nails from the cross or his amputated foreskin, or a cup he drank from once? Does that bring them closer to Jesus' vision of how they should live their lives in any way?

>>543447897
>do you think you can "get me" with your kike pilpul.
I'm not the one who believes Saul instead of Jesus, when Jesus warned you that others would come after him and lie. That'd be you. You're the one that kiked up his religion.

>>543447705
>Don't the Jews literally write
jews are constantly running controlled oppositions. this is no different.
>you were using some fucking scientific method
jews dont use a scientific method to come up with this 14 billion years number.
>This is getting annoying now.
of course it annoys you when you are told that your religion is fake and gay. you got mindraped by jews and me convincing you otherwise has about as much chances of success as telling a vaxtard to not get vaxxed.
>no scientific origin for the Universe
there is but mainstream jew science is wrong about how it works.
>then what the fuck do you even believe in?
why do we have to believe in some made up bullshit anyway?
you are better off without it.

>>543448596
>attacks Pauls teachings out of nowhere
so youre a muslim or what?

>>543448336
>Maybe the kike sorcerers at the top have some knowledge of it, or maybe they're larping just as much as us filthy peasant creatures
I suspect the kikes have been trying to upgrade their deity for millennia. To "level him up". The thought has occurred to me that they might even do this without his permission possibly... they certainly have the attitude that they're in control of their demon more than the demon is in control of them. They probably have less knowledge/insight than they themselves believe.
>But it logically follows that something that transcends our physical limits would also transcend our mental ones.
I can't prove you wrong. But their demon seems to be confused alot by things that even an intelligent human could've guessed at or overcame. Maybe the jew god's just a poor example though. He is a jew, after all.

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"Day" 1: G_d created light and separated it from the darkness, making "day and night".
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"Day" 4: G_d made the sun, the moon, and the stars "to light the day and night" and mark the seasons.

>>543448781
>so youre a muslim or what?
Are you talking about Saul? Saul the jew?

>>543448596
Jesus literally only preached to kikes.

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>>543443870
Evolution can result in miracles, plural.

We see this with life itself in a barren cosmos and then the intellectual advantage that allows us to eventually have this conversation.

Praise SOL

>>543448891
>Jesus literally only preached to kikes.
Well, that makes sense considering they were evil fuckwits and he was trying to win them over to the side of light.

>>543444058
>implying cartoons are claimed as evidence
you aren't very bright. A scientific diagram summarizes the model in a graphical way. The evidence is generated by the experiment. You'll keep posting that stupid image because you're too retarded to understand this.

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>>543443870
There is a vid on yt of some guy showing street niggers card tricks. They think he is magic.
This is literally what you are. Niggers that think shit is magic because too retarded to understand or at least admit you do not understand the trick. Gotta be magic! Case solved!

>>543448850
I dont have to praise SOL daily to see the chronological issues with this inference.

Praise SOL, because words written by mortal man can't retroactively remove the jungle from Cyrodil. This isnt CHIM. It doesn't work like that here.

>>543448891
And? Cesar Millan doesn't help owners with good dogs.

>>543443870
lol one of these
alright how do you figure that?
bearing in mind the new thing would also account for the shit we currently successfully use gene theory to model, wouldn't just be magic xD
alright so how does evolution being proven false (again, we're on like the 4th revision at least) how does that lead to anything immaterial being real accessible ect
what is the mechanical difference

>>543449062
For me it's Aten, the heat and light behind the disk.

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>>543443870
Pray harder and trust the plan goy

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>>543449115
We exist
If evolution didn't do it, then a Creator did it. The creator can't be out of flesh and blood because we already etablished that in this case evolution can't create such a being.

In this case, you'd need an eternal God (the Alpha and Omega) to explain our existence.

>>543443870
parable of the weeds is about brownoids; canaanite genetics

>>543449458
>We exist
not because of some imaginary entity tho.
>If evolution didn't do it
it did, also see >>543444742
>then a Creator did it.
doesnt exist and isnt needed for any observable process.
>can't be out of flesh and blood
then what is it? non measurable, non falsifiable bullshit again? thats exactly how jews do "science" nowadays.
>you'd need an eternal God
you just need an infinite universe that stacks up complexity with non equilibrium thermodynamics.
so yup no jew god needed.

>>543449458
yeah that doesn't follow
got some missing steps between
it wasn't evolution
and
it was a creator
mind that evolution is true enough that we can build shit with it, that is it describes reality accurately enough that things made using evolution as a model function most of the time

that hasn't been established either lol, it has been asserted further up with bible and philosowank quotes

>>543449672
Either it's an unguided (evolution) or a guided process

Obe could say a guided process doesn't require intelligence (plus consciousness) but this would be cope
It does follow.

>>543449877
then please provide the missing lines
the changes over time observed are not due to evolution as currently written
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therefor god

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>>543448981
Retards.

>>543450091
Love the webm. He's laughing while he says it with a shit-eating grin on his face. Couldn't make this shit up.

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>>543443870
A perfect example of the either-or logic fallacy, also called the false dilemma. Disproving one thing does not automatically prove another thing. Making the claim that it has to be either choice A or choice B is not how reality works. If evolution was proven wrong tomorrow, it wouldn't get believers one step closer to proving the existence of God. And it definitely wouldn't help believers of any specific religion to prove their particular God over any other God. Only evidence can accomplish that, and there is none currently.

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>>543444581
>we didn't find any of the transitional lifeforms predicted by evolution, this proves evolution

Evolutionists are some of the stupidest people on the planet.

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>>543452095
FYI dinosaurs are a jewish scam. they never actually existed.
Gideon Mantell (Mantells being jewish and in the peerage and East India Company) allegedly discovered the first fossil teeth of the dinosaur Iguanodon.
you may be interested to know that the French anatomist Georges Cuvier identified these teeth as belonging to a rhinoceros.
and where did Mantell find these teeth? In Cuckfield.
Is Cuckfield on the top of some high Alp?
No, it is off the M23 south of Crawley, on Haywards Heath, near zero elevation in West Sussex.
basically jews faked dinosaurs because they needed to come up with "proof" for the supposed multi billion age of the earth and cover up its actual history, and no its not 6000 years old, thats just the time since the capture event that all religions talk about.
earths actual age might be more in the ballpark of a couple million years only.

>>543452806
Tell me more

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>>543452887
as it turns out, London and Cuckfield were under water in the Jurassic and Cretaceous, so no land dinosaur bones were deposited there then.
Oops! Well, you will say, maybe Iguanadon was living in the Triassic, when that area was dry.
Nope, we are told Iguanadon lived in the late Jurassic to early Cretaceous. oy vey, we have a problem.
You will say the landmasses not only rose and fell, they moved around in continental drift.
So maybe this area was dry at that time. Maybe, but even if so, this is not where we would expect to find dinosaur bones now.
Supposing they avoided passing through one of thousands of volcanos in 240 million years and being melted into lava, you would expect to find them in high elevations, brought back to the surface by rising mountains.
You would not expect to find them in island heaths like this. The idea that Mantell's jewish wife just stumbled across Iguanodon teeth while wandering the moor in Cuckfield is beyond ridiculous.
It is like a Monty Python skit.
Plus, if you continue to search you find they admit England was underwater at that time.
Iguanodon did not live under water, nor did it live in swamps or lagoons, since it had a short neck.
At 3.5 tons it would not have lasted a week in a swamp, soon sinking to its death.
Like a rhino, it would need to live on hard dry land. They also admit that the area south of London is the youngest part of current England, with the chalks being deposited long after the dinosaurs existed.
During the Alpine Orogeny of the Cenozoic, they rose up, being former sea beds.
So although it is remotely possible the area of West Sussex could contain very old sea creatures, it could not possibly contain land dinosaurs like the fake Iguanodon.

>>543452806
I know that alot of dinosaur bones are fake. I know that the "bones" we all get taken to see in a museum as children are plaster casts, and the real bones are never allowed to be seen because the oxygen might damage them or some bullshit...but I'm not 100% certain they are all fake. The soft tissues discovered in dinosaur bones (which completely disproved them being 65 million years old) does seem to indicate they came from some type of animal that lived before the flood.

Evolutionists who think nothing of constantly lying to drag people with them to the pit of hell have made a mess of the field, and it will take years to sort out their lies from what is true.

The Piltdown man hoax demonstrated the moral character of evolutionary paleontologists. The "top" people in the field knowingly perpetrated a hoax on the public for 40 years. It makes me wonder how much else they faked.

>>543453182
Lmao you dumb nigger, you don't even have an elementary understanding of this shit. You're like a tranny on Fox news, you have tons of opinions about shit you don't know about. You'd fit in great in America.

>>543454056
cope

>>543443870
Even if evolution was proven false. The clearly fictional sky wizards of the mainstream religions would not be any less fictional.

>>543444742
The creator ...a alien arrives on this planet he or even his progeny spent eons...playing in their God lab with various DNA muchblike a child with Legos creating destroying creating, makes man ...for the 5th time....man asks how long did all this take ....man no real clue of time, God replies 7 days then laughs....7 days is a what to God, a twinkle in the eye of God is 1000 years and a thousand years is a twinkle in his eye ...

Speaking of eyes... how many millions of accidents occurred to create the human eye...yet that is easier for fools to belive in random chance that to conceive the possibility of a supreme creator

>>543444947
Its been nearly 200 years since Darwin set sail.....and still yet your science is not settled... and you dare mock christians wow I cant tell if your b8, larping, or just choking on cope or cock one

>>543444962
Bible proves God ....

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>>543455757
>The creator ...a alien arrives on this planet

>>543443870
Retards shouldn’t try to grasp the idea of creation or evolution- protip- they are the same thing. You can’t disprove god with evolution (I’m not even religious)

>>543444376
I guess my 10 year self was a sexual deviant then somehow.

>>543444876
What created god? Inventing a god does not resolve anything.

>>543445215
> rules of reality
There are no rules of reality. There are scientific laws, but they are not actually rules the universe obeys, they are things we invented to describe how the universe appears to behave under certain conditions.

>>543443870
It's real.

>>543444581
The debates with evolutions are more interesting than evolution vs creationism, and are old too. The gradual evolution lost steam already 80 years ago, but for some reason is still the stereotype of the evolution theory

>>543456501
So if I punched you in the face, it wouldn't hurt, right?

>>543443870
>this makes the existence of an immaterial God almost inevitable
No it doesn't, Christcuck. Your Jew god is not real. If evolution is fake, then it's because aliens or computers created us.

Good thread. But it's not political.

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>>543448500
This is a pretty lame retort, since it ignores the fact that we have the object right now and it can't be replicated by the most modern scientific methods. You should engage on the merits, but you can't, so you won't.

>>543443870
It's real
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVk4NVIUh8

Experts are just woefully inadequate in the context evolution, to avoid having to navigate a Theological discussion with roughly 2.5 billion humans that completely lack the requisite machine required to conceptualize advanced subjects

The argument is that talking about it is extremely racist because the depth of cognition required to ingest this kind of knowledge creates an intellectual moat that prices the 75 IQ's out of the conversation, so they don't and just pretend they don't understand it, so the smart people just figure out how to profit from it instead

>t. Grade 10 education