This + upping Ethanol to 15% will drive up costs even more.This might make cars a bit cheaper to produce, but I doubt that savings would be passed down, even then, the cost of gas would easily negate any small saving at the dealership.
He's going to ban diesel exports, then crude. Oil companies were given a one week extension. The ban is slated to last through the new year.
>>543445911This goes so badly, they're going to have to have an honest conversation with him about fuel availability. No bigger pit of bullshitters than the oil domain. Wouldn't be surprised if they all chickened and ran. Did it twice before.
>>543445611>CarsWhat cars? they dont make cars anymore. They're all gay tablet devices now.
>>543445611the ethanol is also going to finish off the last of the non-computer-bloated cars that obunga couldnt kill off with c4c
>>543446226Ethanol is terrible for all engines. Going to shorten the life of everyone's rig.
Don't forget to tip the pre-pay credit only gas pump
>>543445611>a bitAttempts to comply with the increasingly insane Obama-Biden fuel economy standards added thousands to the cost of every car while making them less reliable. Stop-start means the most damaging experience a civilian engine has, namely starting with 0 oil pressure, gets repeated dozens of times on an average urban drive, and also requires an overbuilt starter that can survive 20x the normal number of starts, which requires an overbuilt alternator and charging system. Attacking pumping losses meant replacing cheap understressed V6s with tiny, expensive, overstressed turbo motors that just wear out, even when they're not being constantly started with 0 oil pressureAll the dumb tricks automakers were legislatively forced to add, like active grill shutters, flush-motorized door handles, "e-torque" mild hybrids, etc added huge complexity and expense to the car in the hopes of shaving .5 MPG here and there. All of it is awful and it's good that it's gone.If you want a high-mpg vehicle, they will sell you one. Everyone else does not want to pay $5000 more for a car that can barely last for 100k miles in order to theoretically gain a mpg on the highway
>>543445611none of it matters because we're gonna gasify the landfills and just print fuel.
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>>543446226Probably the entire point.
>>543446345Your head is going to get chopped off, and placed on a pike.
>>543446345What I don't get is that the Big 3 already had cars getting 70-80mpg in the late 90s/early 2000s. It was called the PNGV program but Dubya killed it. Why not just put those intro production?
>>543445911>The ban is slated to last through the new year.The ban will last until the day after the elections.
>>543445611Increasing fuel efficiency to extreme levels means making cars too expensive to buy and too complex to repair. Simple designs are easier to build and fix and min/maxxing fuel savings is- in a word- inefficient. Better to have cheaper cars that burn a little more fuel so more people can afford to own them, but if you want the hyper fuel efficient car and are willing to pay more to buy it and repair it, then our capitalist system will still let you choose that car instead. The Green New Deal is dead. America is going to build cars again.
>>543446624>Why not just put those intro production?Basically, because those cars were toys/powertrain tech demos that were never meant for production. IIRC they were all custom diesel hybrids on aluminum-frame/plastic-bodied 2000lb cars with zero creature comforts and that absolutely would not pass even a 5mph crash test. If they were built so they could actually pass crash tests, they'd get about 40mpg, which the Prius was already beating back then, and cost a lot more than a Prius>>543446602>bring up objective reality>troon seethes and fantasizes about my violent deathThe brand is strong
>>543446624Sounds cool>>543446925Chatgpt gay
>>543447208>anyone who's not a retard sounds like AIBrown identified
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>>543445611Watch this to see how asinine the rules are.Why We Can't Have Small Trucks Anymore - Blame the EPAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azI3nqrHEXM
>>543447568>doesn't deny it
>>543445911>ban crude exports that you can't refine yourself4D chess
>>543447724>can't refinesince when?
What if gas becomes so expensive people go back to riding horses ?
So will my next f350 be cheaper or not?My money is on not.It will still have DEF, DPF, SCR, and a DOC and whatever other emissions crap they can throw at it. It will probably cost 120k+OEMs are not going to throw decades of research and current production away when the next administration will come in and pick it right up where it was left off. They can't squeeze r&d plus retooling and production into 2 years the Trump has left. This is just ass kissing to rednecks thinking their next f150 will arrive with a Shelby engine as a stock starting point just below the Pratt and Whitney turbine option
>>543448200I've been considering it...Go off-grid, get a donkey or two and a cart...Sell potatoes, chickens and eggs.Still thinking about how I'd get a 10 Gbit fibre connection to the place so I could still pirate all my porn...
>>543446437Don't forget to tip your gas station
>>5434482622 years is probably not enough, given the 5-year product development cycle. If Vance wins in 2028, absolutely. That's 2033 before even the first risk of the rules being reintroduced more than two generations. Right now, however, they're probably annoying the powertrain engineers by telling them "This thing still needs to meet Biden CAFE just to be safe, but also we need to be able to produce a CAFE-less cheap version on quick notice"
>>543445611I mean, why? Having cars that consume less but still powerful enough is bad now?
>>543445611I'm getting orange nigger fatigue
>>543446602Tranny meltdown
>>543449506>Having cars that consume less but still powerful enough is bad now?The engine is less reliable and ends up costing the consumer more in the long run. It's called a false economy. It's why most with a brain are now buying older pre-9/11 cars.
>ethanol blending >promises to give money directly to voters after winning election Trump has gone full Jeet
>>543445611>15% ethanol inflation got so bad that we're dilating fuel by FIFTEEN PERCENT now. clown world
>>543445611Best anti oil president of all time
>>543445611If you divide the dollars per gallon by your miles per gallon, you get dollars per mile. I did this with regular gas and with E85, and it showed that it was more expensive to use higher ethanol gas.
>>543450339just be happy they aren't making you run full ethanol
I don't drive that often. Good luck, everyone else!
>>543445611>government won't domestically sell small, cheap, fuel efficient carssucks to suck
>>543445611The best thing America could do for American drivers is to allow BYDs to be registered.
>>543452901>full ethanolAs long as boats exist that will never happen. That dirty ethanol crap will leave you bobbing 100 miles offshore. No thank you. I will continue to pay more for the good stuff without it.
