He is the real problem since the beginning.He is the one who created a world with so much suffering.He is the one who created hell.He is the one who created satan.He is the one who created all these different religions.All that is shit is from him.Sure all that is good is him too but there is far more shit in the reality than good.
>>543454594Yahweh isn’t real
>>543454717I'm talking about the creator itself whatever it may be. Not Yahweh or any other named god specifically. For example, gnostics say the demiruge is the issue but it is the same shit, ''god'' created him as well. He is responsible.God , the creator, the initial one. call it as you may. the one who shitted all this shitty world. thats the one. the main issue since the beginning.
>>543454927Nothing created this. You’re here forever
>>543454594Are you a Son of The Most High?The World is weightless strong delusion and may not be grabbed a hold of... It is smoke, vapor. The things that should be melted by fire will be? Why is this YOUR concern? These are HIS problems, not yours. Pick up your cross and follow HIM. Allowed and Created are different.>I AM ALL THINGS--But is The Lord God in the business of fashioning idols? No. Elohim plural (you) did that.>I HAVE SAID >YE ARE ELOHIM
>>543454594You place yourself above God and sit in judgment of Him.He does not live up to the image you have created for your own ideal god or “universe”.You are an idolater, and a lazy one. You don’t even bother to carve up a block of wood, you simply create a fantasy and try to immerse yourself in it.You complain about all things God does and many things He doesn’t do. It’s almost like you were created to hate Him. Like you are the bad example set forward as a warning to the simple. You kvetch and reee, but you refuse to admit any wrongdoing on your part.God himself says that the damned reject him and will never surrender their pride and change.You prove that.You want nothing to do with God or His heaven.He simply agrees with you and you get mad about it.He made a place for those who hate Him. He will leave you alone, forever. He is light, so it is dark, forever. He is love and comfort, so there is none to be found there, forever.Is God wrong about you?Then simply change your mind. Accept Jesus as your savior. Trust that He died for your sins on the cross, was buried, and rose again, exactly as it had been prophesied.Or...don’t.Either way, accept responsibility for your eternity.You won’t have it any other way.
>>543454594In the words of my forefathers:>GIT GUD FAGGOT!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS7_RdGY-pk
>>543455150I did what? I created the predatory system that forces all its creatures to kill, rape and eat each other for billions of years to ''evolve''? I think not. And wow what an amazing world to be born into.I'm leaving and never coming back on this stupid website. Have to do so amny captchas.. fuck this shithole. Bye.
>>543455150>>543455314word salads like these should banned. their entire argument is accept the celestial tyranny and never get out of line.
>>543454927We exist so-that utopia canBe grateful maggot
I won't lie discovering the truth about pajeets shook my faith.What kind and loving god would allow such abominations to exist?
>>543455552>picthis is so retarded. whoever made this needs to get a reality check like Job. who are you to question the one who made everything and can destroy everything whenever he wants?this hate for the Creator, while no mention to the ones who backstab him and shit everything, it's so dumb.>>543455314it's impressive how Satan and his followers are all delusional and always avoid accountability and blame God for everything bad that they do.What all these "atheists" and satanists do to improve the lives of others? They just complain and shit everywhere like indians. everything they touch gets worse and worse.
>>543454594>>543455552Freemasons will be banned from existence. Praise Yahweh forever.
>>543454927I think if we murder the demiurge things will go back to normal though? And I kinda want to anyway
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>>543454594>He is the one who created hellAny demon worth its salt will spit in your face and possess your ass for spouting such uninformed opinion. Hell was created by the demons themselves, trying to make their own version of Heaven. All of them collaborated only to get a parody of it.>He is the one who created all these different religions.Nope, Satan and men themselves did, one to divide and conquer, the others to satisfy their curiosity, boredom, or just wanted to make their own rules instead of following God's.
>>543455975>this is so retarded. whoever made this needs to get a reality check like Job. who are you to question the one who made everything and can destroy everything whenever he wants?>this hate for the Creator, while no mention to the ones who backstab him and shit everything, it's so dumbnotice how the eunuch slave has no argument whatsoever and just keeps babbling about how you should submit to the cruel tyrant abusing you
>>543454594he created heavenBut in order for there to be heavenThere has to be not-heavenUnderstand yet?
>>543454594We are in a shitty J-rpg where no one is able to reach the boss
>>543456263So Thomas Jefferson wouldn't turn the other buttcheek?
>>543456250>Hell was created by the demons themselves, trying to make their own version of Heaven>thinks paradise lost is actual biblical canon
>>543456250>Matthew 25:41 Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angelsyou don't even know your own religion
>>543454594Santa Claus?
>>543455979there is no Reddit in Heaven.there are no trannies and faggots in Heaven. there is no HR women, no furries, no Chris-Chan and other abominations in Heaven.+ Bonus: If you are catholic, some mystic nun saw Mussolini entering Heaven after suffering at purgatory.How can someone hates Jesus? srsly
>>543454594We abandoned Him, who seeks to bring us back to His fold. The vast majority of us will never turn from our wicked ways, and in short time will face eternal punishment.
>>543454927Some gnotistic traditions say that our world just shredded from the pleroma. If the "everything" thing about itself, this cause a logic separation and discrimination, creating an istance that in our case is the material world. No one created it, it just happen because it was possible, but still matter nothing.
>>543454594Correct.
What if God wants us to shoot shitskins?
>>543456263>pic>masonic babblingyou want a sign to believe, but you won't see anything;38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” 39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.”The poorest people can talk with him and feel his presence. The rich, the doctors and the jews can't. Why so?All condemned to die unhappy unless they repent.
>>543454927yeah holy shit mind blowngod isn't loving and god isn't finger lickin good eitherif you're not a christfag who chooses to ignore all of the horrendous things that happens to "good" people (then copes by saying that they all went to heaven and so it really doesn't matter anyway) then you wouldn't currently be keanu woahing at the epiphany that GOD IS NOT GOOD
>>543454927Please, "shitty world" explain, why is it a shitty world...why is it so hard for people to find content happiness joy, just in living....you fill that because you dont have goy-roys your life is incomplete...i.e shitty
>>543454927>>543454594Correct.
>>543454594Hey /pol/ want to know whether you're talking to a kike or not? Ask them about Jesus Christ.If they reject/hate Jesus Christ, they're a kike. Every Christ hater is a kike.The greater the hatred of Christ, the more evil that person is (Trump, Netanyahu, Epstein, Clinton, etc.)There is no greater litmus test of a person's character than that person's attitude towards Christ Jesus.>so why does this matter?Jesus Christ is Truth & Love, kikes are filled with lies, fear & hate. This means that when we deal with kikes, we must understand that they hate the Truth (since they hate Jesus Christ) and so cannot engage in honest discussion (which is why you're always so frustrated in your discussions with them). Hence you're better off simply exposing them and not paying them any attention afterwards.Jesus Christ is King of kings. He is Yahweh the Son who Abraham had a personal relationship with. That is why only Christianity is Abrahamic, every other religion & ideology is simply anti-Christian paganism.
This is a fallen world. Satan is the god of this world and OP you and the overwhelming percentage of all people to have ever lived are a child of satan. You and all the rest of his progeny will spend eternity in hell. You will have nothing but darkness. No sight, no sound, nothing but your own thoughts tormenting you forever and ever. All pain you have caused others and all pain you have caused yourself, you will experience over and over again. You reject the Lord Jesus Christ whom is the Almighty God. The Creator. You are a product of the source of evil itself. You reject your only hope of salvation. You reject truth, life, and light itself. The Lord Jesus Christ Eternal life is for those whom despite all the evil of this fallen world have cared for nothing more than the way, the truth, and the life. They whom have done this are chosen to be heirs to a world to come where God himself shall rule. There shall be no more pain or sorrow. All Glory to the Almighty God, the Lord Jesus Christ, to the glory of God the father.
>>543456718>god isn't loving and god isn't finger lickin good either>god isn't good
>>543455150>>543455314>>543455979>>543456408Yahweh bless these excellent souls.
>>543456824Everyone anti abortion is a nigger loverNigger lovers are enemies of america no exception
But God can't make logical contradictions real. Even if he's all good he's limited, even if he is the most powerful being.
>>543456884simply based.
>>543455129Hello fellow noticer.
>>543455975>who are you to question the one who made everything and can destroy everything whenever he wants?You're what's called a spiritual narcissist. You worship God so he can be on your side, you then use him to make yourself powerful so you can boost your ego and status.
>>543454594>jewish eu flag nigger doesn't understand theologyPottery
>>543457046Why are you fallaciously slandering his character?
>>543454594Can anyone explain what was wrong with Adam and Eve that they failed to make the right choice? Something must have been wrong with them, otherwise they wouldn't have failed. What was it?
>>543457130You naturally defend him because you're a child of ghe devil just like him. Evil defends evil.
>>543456884>>543456824>>543455314t.
>>543457194Christians already know that you are a child of Satan. We understand that you are evil. There is no need to pretend that you aren't evil in this thread.>>543457185Eve was tempted by Satan, Adam disobeyed God and through him, Sin entered Creation.
>>543457185>otherwise they wouldn't have failed. What was itIgnoring the fact that yahweh set them up to fail by putting the tree and serpent in the garden in the first place, otherwise they wouldn't have been there, adam and eve were 'tested' before they even had knowledge of good and evil. It's kind of hard to pass a test when you don't even know if you're being tested (god never told them he was testing them) or if you don't even know what the subject of the test is. If god were just and fair, he would have tested them AFTER they had knowledge of good and evil.
>>543454594cope and seethe let go of YOUR ego frail mortal
>>543457046>>543457194>talks shit about the Father>call other people "children of Satan", narcisist etc etc your opinion is worth less than a pile of a Jeet's shit.
>>543454594You deserve it ya gnostic shithead
>>543455552The Lord God is THE N+1 dimensional being.HE has given us The Law and ALL Men failed it.So Christ became The Narrow Gate. The Way through The Narrow Gate is not a trivial thing. What is trivial is your materialist idolatry.The Lord God wants you to walk yourself out of abomination and you are annoyed that being born of water upside down, adulterating, and dying is a faith test? You have forgotten your Father's voice.
>>543457185>he thinks choices are preprogrammed and you aren't responsible for your own decisionsMissing the entire point and meaning of free will. Mindless npc opinion.
>>543457528Yeah, people like those, it's best to ultimately avoid them after 1 or 2 exchanges where you've said everything you needed to say. They're only interested in being psychic vampires and derailing these kinds of threads.More Christians must come to realize this: if one does not have the Holy Spirit within them, then what unclean spirit(s) plagues them?Matthew 12:43-45 - 43 “When an evil spirit leaves a person, it goes into the desert, seeking rest but finding none. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the person I came from.’ So it returns and finds its former home empty, swept, and in order. 45 Then the spirit finds seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they all enter the person and live there. And so that person is worse off than before. That will be the experience of this evil generation.”>>543457712based
>>543457448You haven't answered what was wrong with them.
>>543455968Trivial 'problem' for The Lord God. He lets the weeds up with the wheat, Christ breaks this one down literally because the disciples were not as well read of the scriptures (O.T.) as you should be.
>>543457736Quality & quantity of the unclean/evil spirits plaguing a person definitely correlates with how evil the person is as well as their reactions toward Christ.>>543457772Nothing was wrong with them, but they disobeyed.
>>543454594>HeThis is the problem, the humanization of God. Like the sun, God is the source of all but indifferent to the happenings on the world's it's made.
Fuck off and kill yourself, satan. You dumb bitch. You piece of shit.Notice how I didn't capitalize your shitty faggot name? Take that you cocksucker.
>>543457889Yahweh the Son is both fully God and fully man.Hebrews 4:15 - 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.(Jesus Christ is our High Priest)
>>543457724>>he thinks choices are preprogrammedSo they just happened to fail? If God would have given Adam and Eve the choice 100 times, how many times would they fail? 50/50? Always?>responsible for your own decisionsWhose fault is it that i was created?>Missing the entire point and meaning of free will.What are the advantages of having free will?
Jesus only threatened those who weren't his own with hell. Modern whites could learn a thing or two from him.
>>543457989God preprogrammed everything. Therefore, his own are predestined to return to him.
>>543457874>Nothing was wrong with them, but they disobeyed.That doesn't make sense. If nothing was wrong with them, why did they fail? If nothing was wrong with them, why did they get punished?
>>543457185God predestined it. I don't know why but he did.
>>543457470>If god were just and fair, he would have tested them AFTER they had knowledge of good and evil.he did it when he asked why they were taking cover. instead of telling the truth and taking accountability, they choose again to do something stupid and point the finger to eachother. Adam accused Eve, then Eve accused the Serpent. Neither of them spoke what really happened; they believed the snake because wanted to be their own Gods.if they repented and told the truth, the result could be other.
>>543458041I wouldn't say that he preprogrammed everything but more that he's already accounted for the evil choices/plans that would arise in reaction/opposition to His Plan.Genesis 50:20 - "20 As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today." God is so awesome as to be able to take evil that He does not approve of and work it out for our ultimate Good.Romans 8:28-30 - 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.>>543458150>If nothing was wrong with them, why did they fail? If nothing was wrong with them, why did they get punished?God gave them a will and the genuine ability to obey or disobey. There was nothing defective or sinful in their created nature, but that does not mean they were incapable of choosing rebellion. They abused the freedom they were given and disobeyed God, which is precisely why they were morally responsible and why judgment followed.If God created them unable to disobey, then why would He have given them a command if they were unable to do evil?
>>543458150he's not going to give you a good-faith answer. he's not trying to give logical reasons for why you should believe, he's only trying to recruit you into his religion.
>>543457185The Lord God --FINALLY shows up in 'creation' to breathe life into clay, Adam. Woman is then derivatized from Man. The Adulteress (Eve) walks herself to The Most Cunning (old Serpent), and is WHOLLY SEDUCED - BEGUILED.This 'Man of The Lord" knew (fucked) her, and IMPREGNATED HER. SHE TECHES ADAM what she learned.Yahweh comes back and sees the used genitals and that's the score. Now we got bloodline of Satan and Adam growing up together and Yahweh flooded the place to kill most of the other old hunanoid things off. Eden is heaven on earth... The Temple on The Mount is 'heaven on earth'. A strong angle is that you as sheep are bait for "powers and principalities". Adam and Eve are too fragile NOT to fail in the diehold.
>>543454594Shalom.
>>543458367>logical reasons Order & Reason arise from Yahweh. To be divorced from Yahweh is to be divorced from logical reasoning as a result. This is why anti-Christians are so prone to irrationality and illogical reasoning (believing that there are 50+ genders and that men can get pregnant etc.)
When you see how kike blame their creator for everything, you start to understand how they can undermine and destroy their host nation before abandoning it for a new host.
>>543456408Purgatory doesn't exist and catholicism is satanic. People do not go to heaven when they die. They are in a part of Hades sleeping called Abraham's bosom. After the first resurrection believers reign on Earth for 1,000 years with Jesus and after the second resurrection and the final judgment heaven and Earth become one. Try reading the actual Bible instead of heretical and paganistic papist delusional fantasies.
>>543456728>why is the temporary place not perfect like the permanent one? It was. We gave that up when we chose to live in sin instead of righteousness with God. Now it serves a different purpose.
Oy veyThese goyim aren't worshiping the demiurge- I mean the true biblical god
>>543456884The Bible does not say that hell is a place of sensory deprivation. This is unbiblical fanfiction.
>>543457889God is not indifferent. He sent His own beloved Son to die for our sins in our place and His Holy Spirit is present with us always. Repent, imbecile.
>>543457185"If a car goes wrong, you do not say that the driver made a mistake if the steering failed; but if he drove into a wall on purpose because he wanted to show off, that is a different matter. (...) The moment you have a self, there is the possibility of putting Yourself first—wanting to be the centre: wanting, in fact, to be God. That was the sin of Satan: and that was the sin he taught the human race." The Shocking Alternative, book II chapter 3, C.S. Lewis
>>543457989No, they didn't just happen to. They CHOSE to. DECIDED. Do you understand? You seem like a woman who does not comprehend responsibility conceptually at all.>>543458041Calvinism is heresy. God is not the author of evil and sin. It is the consequence of using free will to disobey Him. Get out of here with your disgusting lies and demonic false teachings.
>>543458814Why did your god father satan and demons?Why did he arrange things to fall?Is he ignorant of the effects of his own creation?
>>543458961God chose to put the snake in the gardenGod chose to put a fruit thereGod chose to put a woman who will eat itThe bible says man was CREATED with a sinful natureTry again.
Adam and Eve had one job, "don't eat from a certain tree". One. Job.To blame the creator for not following a simple rule is madness. All of this, we brought on ourselves.
>>543454594Exactly. For a being that is supposed to be Good, why would he create Hell, and torture people for Eternity? That has got to be the most EVIL thing I have ever heard of! Why would you create people, who never asked to exist, just so you could judge and torture them? Talk about an Evil Dictator!
>>543458961Oh for fucks sake I hate how you pelagian heretics are now convinced you're all good Christians. St. Augustine debunked your heresy. God's influence is needed for salvation. Humans cannot reach God by their own will. I'm not Calvinist. I'm just factual about how predestination is necessary just like St. Augustine.
>>543458961>God is not the author of evil and sin>Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things
>>543458963Quantum Mechanics (again) teaches us that God 'gambles'.
>>543458232God predestined us to have free will, despite knowing we would use it against Him. Why? It is called Love. Puppets/robots cannot love. They can only simulate love meaningless. God desires a family and fellowship. We are responsible for our own choices, not God. We are not predestined nor programmed to sin. We consciously decide to. We take the gift of Life/Consciousness and decide to use it for evil. God chose to create us anyway when He could have chosen not to. It is in this sense everything is predestined. God knows what will happen and allows it. He does not rob us of choice and force Himself on us. He is a gentleman. God also does not tempt anyone. We choose to obey the tempter, instead of our Father. This is not our Father's will. You are teaching despicable heresy.
>>543459108>God has a gambling problemFun thought
>>543459066"No good tree can bear bad fruit"Why does your corrupt god fail his own verses
>>543458336Knowing what will happen and allowing it are not the same as forcing it to happen. Lesser minds cannot comprehend this.
>>543455975Job needs a Reality Check? God tortured the FUCK out of job, with the Devil egging him on. God thought he could do whatever he wanted to Job, and that Job would remain loyal. God is the one who got the Reality Check. Loyalty goes both ways. And the Devil laughed...
>>543459122No, God allows evil to bring about greater good.
>>543459122>predestined>free will pick one those are mutually exclusive. the bible denies free willit even says salvation is not a human choice (god has to choose you first)you worship a nonsensical jew>>543459108>gamblesdenies omnipotence and omniscience. the suffering is the point goyim!
>>543458849>The Bible does not say that hell is a place of sensory deprivationneither did him when he said that they will "feel pain and pain forever". The "eternal darkness" he is saying is a poetic way of saying they will not have the presence of God so it is like worse than flames or any other punishment, because God is hope and love. Imagine suffering for eternity with no hope to it ever stopping
>>543454594To quote Rick from Rick and Morty - “It’s a big day. We’re gonna kill God.… Christian God is real. He’s been asleep for thousands of years. We’re gonna sneak up there and kill him. Mob style. Whack his ass.”
>>543459013The Bible does NOT say man was created with a sinful nature, anywhere in all of its entirety. It specifically states man was created perfect and in the image of God, just as He is perfect. You are biblically illiterate and idiot. Stop trying to teach what you haven't learned, obnoxiois uneducated child. God chose to create people who He knew would choose to disobey Him. He did not choose disobedience for them. If you are too stupid to comprehend that, nothing I can say will help you. Try cognitive supplements to enhance reading comprehension and holistic nuanced thinking I guess.
>>543459153It does when you created everything and control every variable lmao. Is he ignorant of his own creation?judeochrist pilpul
>>543459087Lake of Fire is just the long path.Abominations are not allowed in Heaven. The Law is what it is. Arguing that The Law is arbitrary and not an ultimate universal science comes from Moral Relativism, a lay Satanic Ideology.
>>543459174Story of job proves>god is a convenant breaker>god is a liar>god is friends with satan not his enemy (promise to curse satan to earth shown a lie)
>>543459104>christianity without pagansJesus >>>>>>>>>>>> abysm >>>>>>>>> any pagan deity
>>5434553141/3Ok, tonight I am not in mood, I usually try to be kind with religious people but I only have to check how much things are getting expensive FOR EVERYONE to know someone has to slap you in your place.>You place yourself above God and sit in judgment of Him.Why give me reason if I can't make a judgement of Him? You are the one scared.>He does not live up to the image you have created for your own ideal god or “universe”.(you), yes, (you) decided to use the word omnibenevolent, almighty and all-knowing, you should have known how inconsistent this for anyone thinking about it about 15 seconds>You are an idolater, and a lazy one. You don’t even bother to carve up a block of wood, you simply create a fantasy and try to immerse yourself in it.Read Job, you are already making EXACTLY the ones mistake Job's friends did, I am not worshiping anything, I am searching the truth, if you can't stomach that then it's your problem.>You complain about all things God does and many things He doesn’t do. It’s almost like you were created to hate Him. Like you are the bad example set forward as a warning to the simple. You kvetch and reee, but you refuse to admit any wrongdoing on your part.Again, (you) people keep hammering attributes to Him and putting words on His mouth without seeing the logical implications
>>5434553142/3>God himself says that the damned reject him and will never surrender their pride and change.God or (you)? You already sound quite prideful like "I am going to get saved while all of you get to rot in hell".>You prove that.The only one proving a faulty creation here is (you). You can't even engage on honest logical thinking>You want nothing to do with God or His heaven.Who says? You? You people talk too much and keep having little to show for.>He simply agrees with you and you get mad about it.What? Agree with what?>He made a place for those who hate Him. He will leave you alone, forever. He is light, so it is dark, forever. He is love and comfort, so there is none to be found there, forever.Congratulations, once again (you) didn't even bother read the dictionary, you just made and advertisement list like some incompetent marketing hack>Is God wrong about you?Is it? You dare make a judgement on me even when Jesus Himself warned (you) not to do it?>Then simply change your mind. Accept Jesus as your savior. Trust that He died for your sins on the cross, was buried, and rose again, exactly as it had been prophesied.None of this excludes critical thought, you are intellectually coward and have twisted your sense of right and wrong because you are scared to point at clear things, you are lying to yourself and to others and trying to pass the moral obligation of intellectual honesty>Or...don’t.Or ese according to (you) what? Oh right, again you already passed the sentence, no wonder you have to talk so much about faith, more like you are too incompetent to have a minimum of decency.>Either way, accept responsibility for your eternity.What do you think I am doing? Unlike you who are relinquishing YOUR moral responsability.>You won’t have it any other way.You sound quite the pharisee for someone pretending to act like a good christian.
>>543459087>Why doesn't God just let evil people roam around the universe and ruin everything for those who choose to be good? Why create a place for people who refuse to live selflessly and want to overthrow Him and His standards of absolute perfection? Idiot.>>543459101Influence =/= Removal of free willNo one is saying God does not soften hearts and grant repentence. He chooses those who will choose Him and those who will choose Him have already been chosen, because He is not limited by time, seeing past, present, and future all as one. YOU are the heretic, because you accuse God of programming people purposely to be evil. You worship a fictional and demonic god, not Yahweh. >>543459104>disasterYes God unleashes many plagues upon the wicked. He did not create evil. Satan was the first one to bring evil into reality, by disobeying God. Then, he infected humanity with His mind virus. That does not mean God is evil, nor purposely bringing evil into existence. It is an unfortunate but necessary consequence of free will. You have horrible reading comprehension and should not try to teach scripture. Go read the book of James "not many of you should be teachers". That verse is talking about people like you.
>>543459104Christian church made by ethiopians in bedrock
>>543459395>I am searching the truth,If you aren't searching for Christ then you aren't searching for truth.
>>543454594I am sorry you were not born attractive and/or of good family. Most people take these challenges of a poor starting hand and pull themselves up through hard work and study. Maybe apologize to God and try harder to be a good person?
>>5434553143/3All of (you) are the same, pharisees, you love to feel yourselves like you are better, everything you read sounds bitter, sadistic and/or prideful, you are anything but the equivalent to the sort of fanboys who ruin sports, hobbies, community activities and so on, maybe you should start with (you)rselves.
>>543459259>LET US >FASHION MAN>IN OUR >IMAGEMan is an Idol. The Qlippoth (kelipot phonetically) is a vessel and you stole it from Satan. Your skinsuit DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU.>YE ARE IN TRESPASS
>>543459219>biblically illiterate moron knows a handful of verses and ignores every other one that does not confirm his biasMany cases. SAD.• Deuteronomy 30:19 – "This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live." (God explicitly commands the Israelites to make a choice between two paths).• Joshua 24:15 – "But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve... But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord." (Joshua presents a clear, voluntary decision to the people).• Revelation 3:20 – "Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me." (Portrays an invitation that requires a voluntary human response to open the door).• John 3:16 – "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (Uses the inclusive word "whoever," implying an open invitation to choose belief).• Joshua 24:22 – "Then Joshua said to the people, 'You are witnesses against yourselves that you have chosen to serve the Lord.' 'Yes, we are,' they replied." (Reinforces that the people acted on their own stated decision).
>>543459450St. Paul says God creates vessel made for destruction so it's not like God doesn't deliver justice to the evil people he created. He still created them.
>>543459219Free will and destiny are not mutually exclusive. God sees the past, present, and future all at once. He allows things to happen, and that is how He destines them. It does not mean we do not make choices. It means no matter what we decide, it will not stand in God's way of His perfect plan and will ultimately be used for good. You're an idiot.
>>543454594>Everything i can Idolize vs God, who created everything I idolizeWhy do people take a context they have no control over and think that the comparison they make within it is what defines them, and then continue to ignore the implications of that, and blame God directly when Jesus exists. If God didn't care, Jesus wouldn't have even showed up, its the fact that Jesus did at this point, there can be no question, unbelievers do not get frustrated with a deity that doesn't hold them accountable if they can clearly tell it is immoral, which is precisely why you have contrarian cults and fad belief systems that deliberately idolize something everyone knows isn't God. There is nothing ontologically evil, dualism is false, it's just misorientation with God being teleologically expressed, you commit evil, it doesn't define you just because you can express it. This is why the Cross happened. The context that determines what man is based on what he does was tested by Christ himself, and God found it wanting when it used both secularism and religion to crucify an innocent person, thereby judging the context itself with the blood of God.The problem is everyone is comparing themselves in a horizontal relative sense, to objects that do not need nor demand that you even do that. Hume stumbled upon Is/Ought without realizing that he was making an inference from within the context he was trying to establish relationships in, that is precisely the issue. Kant does the same shit, realizes you can't assess reality from within it and know absolutely, says it's a bane. Also wrong.There is nothing inherently wrong or evil with being created, the book even declared that God called it all very Good. Evil can therefore only exist in a context where beings have will, and can express misorientation with an Absolute. The law is tracking teleology. (What you orient yourself with as absolute.)
>>543459228No he specifically said no sight no sound etc. Scripture doesn't say that. Stop making things up.
>>543459544>posts bible contradictionsthanks for doing my job loltell me can god's sovereign will be broken? yes or no
>>543459268>allowing something makes you responsible for itEffeminate woman logic
>>543459490Incidentally you aren't Christ, my issue is with the likes of you, not Him.
>>543459318No your post only proves that you struggle with basic reading comprehension. Job says none of that, imbecile.
>>543459607they arehe CREATED you KNOWING what will happen you retardhe created this reality with the knowledge most of humanity (let's be generous and say 90%) would go to hellthat's the fucking deranged premise you subscribed to lmao
>>543459395You think you're a lot smarter than you are. Nothing you said is logical at all, just desperate pseudointellectual confirmation bias conclusions.
>>543455314>You place yourself above God and sit in judgment of HimAnyone who's not a toddler fucker can confidently do this. The bar of what makes you a better person than the sadist who created this fucking place is so low lmao literally just don't rape or murder toddlers and you're better and more qualified to judge people than he is
>>543454927Pain is just an illusion
>>543459406Being sure of one's salvation is not "prideful". You argue like a child and are not worth responding to. Talking to someone like you requires lowering one's intellectual level in a way that is physically painful.
>>543459673So you aren't searching for Christ? Then you are not searching for truth.If you do want to search for truth, then search for Christ.
>>543459667he doesn't just allow ithe arranged it>>543459693>god says anyone who follows him will be blessed and protected (job was blameless)>ruins his life anywayyou worship a deceiving jew lol with no comprehensionthat's why job's friend kept blaming him off some great sin because that shouldn't happen otherwiseturns out god was just a lying piece of shit degenerate making bets with satan
>>543459789the bible is a book of lies lolit even declares earth is a dome lmao
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>>543459588Based on the original Greek grammar and the rest of Scripture, the idea that God creates individuals for the express purpose of sending them to hell is incorrect.In Romans 9:22-23 (NASB 1995), Paul writes:"What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory..."The key distinction lies in the Greek text. In verse 23, Paul uses an active verb (proetoimazō), showing God actively "prepared beforehand for glory" the vessels of mercy. In verse 22, however, he switches to the Greek word katērtismena for the vessels of wrath. This functions as a middle or passive participle meaning they have "fitted themselves" or become ripe for destruction through their own persistent rebellion.Furthermore, Paul states that God "endured with much patience" these vessels. It would be a contradiction for God to exercise patience toward people He engineered from birth just to damn. His patience proves He gave them time, but they willfully refused Him.This matches God's heart revealed throughout the Bible. As 2 Peter 3:9 (NASB 1995) explicitly states:"The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance."Paul confirms this in 1 Timothy 2:3-4 (NASB 1995):"This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."Read together, human beings are only "prepared for destruction" because they reject God's grace. Hell is the tragic result of people actively resisting a patient Creator who desires for them to be saved.
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>>543459710He created me with free will, knowing I would have to choose to love Him, rendering Love actually legitimate and meaningful, hell-bound spiritually desolate moron.
>>543459174>God tortured the FUCK out of job,you don't even knows the story, you retard. Satan tortured Job, not God himself.He allowed the demon to torture Job, because the demon accused Job of only worshipping God because of his blessings. His point was that if he cut the blessings, Job would revolt and abandon him. He cuts the blessings yet he don't allow Satan to kill Job.When Job revolts he only proves that we say a lot of things, but when we have to suffer for the truth we start to rebel against God, instead of being loyal until death. you all need to read and contemplate this story bc you are all sons of Job, but without the diseases and the intense suffering.And, you need to stop with this arrogant and reductionist shit threads. If you want to have real conversations then have good faith and make nice threads. it isn't a sin to be dumb, it is a sin to be dumb willingfully
>>543459764Satan corrupted the world, not God. God created the world perfect, infantile idiot.
>>543454594what an evil piece of shit that guy is
>>543459839The Holy Bible was written down by those under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to be read by those under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.Reading the Bible without the Holy Spirit will lead to incomplete, imperfect, and even erroneous understanding of the Bible.1 Corinthians 2:14 - 14 But a natural man does not accept the depths of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually examined.2 Corinthians 4:3-4 - 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 in whose case the god of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
>>543459799Job was blessed beyond measure in the end and received eternal Life with Jesus, the greatest blessing of all, dumbass.He does not arrange for you to choose evil. He arranges for you to have a choice. You are responsible for your own decisions, effeminate idiot.
>>543459954>if ignore the plaintext and make up copes about my nonsensical divine book it looks less stupid!Classic christkikery>>543460004You didn't even choose to be born. You didn't even choose your cultureIf you got born into some uncontacted tribe what would be your recourse lmao
>>543454594You know that guy probably has the funniest jokes on the planet and can make you laugh nonstopThat’s probably why He became that
>>543459839No it doesn't. You've never read the Bible, dumbass.
>>543454594I believe that God the Father made the world. Looking around, we can see remenants of the greatness of what once was, the masterful works of living art, the robustness of creation. The world was under our leadership. But, by obeying the enemy, we placed the enemy above us, which included the world. He went about corrupting everything.The old testament often talks about the cruelty of God. And it is true, he seemed to be a petty, boastful creature in many cases, more than happy to inflict the worst things imaginable upon even his own chosen. He cursed the Egyptians, ruining their country and killing their sons. He cursed a people with such terrible hunger that they ate their own children! He sent animals to kill kids for the shallowest of reasons. He was cruel, prideful, and vengeful.But Jesus is the truth! Jesus said that he and the Father are aligned in spirit. If you see Jesus, you see the Father. Through Jesus, we saw kindness, forgiveness, and healing. He never cursed a human or killed. In the Bible, the only time Jesus got angry was when the jews made the Father's house into a trading market for sacrifical animals. Furthermore, Jesus said that nobody had seen the Father. The old testament descriptions of Yahweh were not the Father. Jesus does NOT say that manna was sent by the Father to the jews in the wilderness. Instead, he says that no good father would give his children a serpent when asking for food. The jews complained and asked for meat instead of manna. In response, Yahweh sent poisonous snakes to bite the jews, killing many.There are many more examples. And all of this led me to believe that Yahweh is the enemy, and Jesus was sent by the Father to the jews to save them from Yahweh, because they are Yahweh's chosen. When the jews demanded Jesus's blood, they rejected him and became the Synagogue of Satan.
>>543459954Okay and what if God had to create evil people to bring about good? Like the bubonic plague was necessary to improve the European immune system so the English could colonize America.
When did this place get infested with pathetic midwit noahs ark believers
>>543459979>>543460060>i-it's a metaphornope this is what jewish prophets and even jesus believedthat heaven is up there in the skyso is jesus chilling in the asteroids right now bro?
>>543460082If the elect are among the tribe, God will send a messenger, even an angel from heaven if no man is willing. You are a degenerate, profligate.
>>543454594Wait until you realize its you. You created all this. This world isnt God’s creation, YOU are God. We are all you. You could end this shit in a second but you still dont realize this is all you
>>543460141Are you drunk?
>>543460123Scripture doesn't say that. God wants ALL TO REPENT AND NONE TO PERISH. Stop teaching your heretical nonsense. NOT MANY OF YOU SHOULD BE TEACHERS. That verse is for you! You aren't good at this. You lack reading comprehension and have below average intelligence. Please literally for the love of God stop. You are doing more harm than good with these demonic lies.
>>543460066salvation was not available in jobs timeso I can kill your kids if I give you twice the kids after? lmaohe created satan. he should beg for my forgivenessall you idiots falling for a debunked jewish psyop cult
>>543460187you're a stupid nigger who couldn't make his own dad's penis>>543454594you're mad about all the clamoring the damned did before you were born on their way to hell
>>543460199I'm literally a genius and "You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette." has been a proverb for a while.
>>543460199Why does god have the illusion of people “repenting” when god is omniscient and creates everyone and also omnipotent and can see the future so he already knows who will repent and who wont
>>543460212you should go to sleep anon. You sound devastated, get some rest.
>>543460199I can write scripts for programming bots but those bots I program with my scripture aren't humans.when are you going to wake up and realize that guy is a prisoner just as much as you and we're all in the waiting lobby, faggot?
The ego, or what we gained at the fall, is what you're truly complaining about. There's a story in the Talmud about some Sages capturing the Yetzer Hara (evil inclination, ego, animal desires, etc.) and keeping it imprisoned for 3 days, leaving everyone in the world completely "enlightened", knowing the truth of their identity with God, and in that time they could find no eggs to eat, there was no pro-creation among the animals or humans, no one was doing their jobs, all life as we know it had come to halt because there was no drive to live as a flesh and blood being with animal instincts. That's what they're afraid of. They know that returning to the golden age, Zep Tepi, Kingdom of God, whatever you want to call it by all the world purifying and raising Nachash (they call this Kundalini in the east) will end the world, so they keep a certain percentage of the population in ignorance of their true nature.
>>543454594test
>>543460147>I am making shit up because I know I'm wrongWhat part of uncontacted can't you understand?Billions of humans who existed were not exposed to your random jewish cult as well lol>>543460191Early christians affirm heaven is in the skyObviously they started making up copes when humans created flightJew prophets didn't foresee people can verify their tall tales in the future>>543460199>gods plans never fail>god wants everyone to be saved>god fails to save everyonehow does this work in your brain lol is he intentionally failing to save everyone for the drama?
>>543460301>if I claim victory I windoesn't work that way christcuckyou still have no argument lol why is your god a convenant breaker and a deceiver like the jews that spawned him?
>>543460349He’s failing because he loves tormenting things
>>543454594Fuck jew fairy tales
>>543460349>Early christians affirm heaven is in the skyThe Bible describes at least Three (3) Heavens. The sky is the First Heaven. Are you confused about something?>>543460402Victory? No I'm just concerned about your mental/emotional health, it sounds like you are on the edge of nervous breakdown.
>>543460199>NOT MANY OF YOU SHOULD BE TEACHERSand who the fuck made you the final arbiter of right and wrong, having perfect knowledge of god's message and having authority of who can be teachers or not? what makes you more righteous than the rest of us? this entire thread you've done nothing but blab on with your ceaseless faggotry telling everyone else about how ignorant and sinful they are while stroking your own ego. you act more like a pharisee that jesus warned about than a christian.
>>543460301jewish gaslighting isn't helping you, it's just showing your true colors of deceit.edify the man or fuck off, coward.
>>543460484a man of spirit has no concern for jewish textbooks defining mental and emotional health.you are of murderer's blood.
>>543460488>>543460523What are you angry about?
>>543460575deflection won't save you either.you're going to get shot in the head one day carrying on like this.
>>543458958>there is the possibility of putting Yourself first—wanting to be the centre: wanting, in fact, to be God.Why was this not fixed if it's wrong?
>>543460021Who told God he could allow that? Sure as shit not me.
>>543460575>arguing in bad faith>trying to instigate angeris it even possible for christians to be honest and tell the truth?
>>543458961>They CHOSE to. DECIDEDSo what was wrong with them that they did so?
>>543460484>muh 3 heavensNope. Did flying rabbi jesus go lightspeed to the zeta quadrant when he reached the stratosphere? lol
>>543460674that's no christianthat's a catholic dog he just wishes his legion's boot to be upon your head
>>543460611If I get shot in the head, so be it. In the end Christians don't fear death like you do.>>543460674Anti-Christians are emboldened by their master, the Devil, to be intellectually dishonest, which is why you are doing this.>>543460701So after being corrected you refuse the correction?This is called being willfully (and arrogantly) ignorant.
>>543459066>Adam and Eve had one job, "don't eat from a certain tree". One. Job.So they were unqualified for the job? Clearly they were unable to do their job. Why?Why was it ok to create them in such a way that they failed, but it's not ok to create them in such a way that they wouldn't fail?
>>543454717/thread
>>543460484Nope you're concerned with deflecting because you can't defend your arguments>The people who unironically killed and oppressed others on the words of jewish schizos and believe in magic rabbis asking me about mental healthlol
>>543460746>that's a catholic dogWhy do you slander and bear false witness? Prove that I am Roman Catholic.
>>543459122If you love someone, do you make them suffer, or protect them from suffering?If you hate someone, do you make them suffer, or do you protect them from suffering?
>>543460792Anti-Christians are emboldened by their master, the Devil, to be intellectually dishonest, which is why you are doing this.
>>543460763yeah you do fear death, that's why you choose to loop your life back to your true master: the US dollar.you're scared to death throwing books you didn't write against people on 4chan.that's just cowardly>>543460813you aren't a christian, you are as the deceivers. jews demand proof for everything.wield the bible against others and then stand before God when you die here on earth and start running your mouth about "uhh the scripture Sir God Sir it said I had to be the most righteous faggot on the planet so you'd favor me over those other goyim who didn't listen to me".you're a fucking nigger
>>543459122Would you be able to love someone who wants you to get hurt?
>>543455975>backstabYou can't really backstab someone who's all-knowing. That like thinking you can sneak around a 360 degree camera. I'm starting to realize why Brazil is such a shithole. Most huehue posters in here are fucking shit for brains, like you.
>>543456728How fucking stupid are you?
>>543460763what correction? the bible says heaven is up there in a sky that jesus flew up to. that doesn't change that fact. Elijah in his physical body flew up there lolTry again
>>543460866It seems like you are either:- drunk, - experiencing a nervous break down- one of the devil's slanderersWhich would it be?
>>543460865Everyone anti abortion is a nigger loverIn the new world order nigger lovers will be gassed
>>543460923Anti-Christians are emboldened by their master, the Devil, to be intellectually dishonest, which is why you are doing this.
>>543460928let's test your own logic before you:prove I'm drunk.prove I'm experiencing nervous breakdown.prove I'm one of the devil's slanderers.
>>543459137"Do unto others..." is another one.
>>543460955Nigger lovers will be eliminated0 exceptions
>>543460865>jewish dualityah yes everyone outside your cult is LE DEMONIC like every cult everwhy is your god the father of satan?
>>543459153>Knowing what will happen and allowing itInstead of fixing it so that it doesn't happen.
>>543460928>>543460955>people who criticize my jewish demon lord are all the children of the devilKek. Whatever suits your narrative, I guess. Fact is, Christianity is nothing but hundreds of layers of cope, one on top of the other, to make a perfect circle of cope, so you can cope in peace.
>>543459193Is someone preventing him from making greater good without all the evil?
>>543460965I am asking you which do you suffer from:Are you drunk?Are you mentally breaking down?Are you one of the Devil's slanderers?I am interested in hearing what you are.>>543460979Since you hate what is Good and True, yes, as slaves of Satan you are evil.
>>543461050by which voice are 4chan posts narrated in your head, pig?
>>543459153>Knowing what will happen and allowing itIf an action you are about to do will result in somebody, you or anyone else, in pain or suffering, then it is not the right action to do. Another, better action, such that it does not result in someone, you or anyone else, in pain or suffering, should be found and done. Only such actions should be done. No action that results in somebody in pain or suffering, can be called good. Only such actions that don't result in pain and suffering can be called good, and only beings that do such actions can be called good. God did an action that resulted in pain and suffering.
>>543461031If you're not with Jesus Christ, then you are with the Devil, it really is that simple.Those with Jesus Christ enter into Eternal Life.Those with the Devil enter into eternal death.We will all rejoice on the Day of Judgment.>>543461084Why are you afraid of talking and admitting your issues?
>>543461050Nigger lovers are enemies of americaChrist kikes are traitors
>>543461115Why did god create the devil?
>>543461044Some logical contradiction, like the European immune system drastically improving above all the other races without a cause. The bubonic plague was needed otherwise the English wouldn't have colonized America while all the Indians got sick.
>>543461050Christianity isn't good. It's killed countless of non-believers throughout time. Back in the day, people were even killed for saying that Earth isn't flat. Aso, just 333 years ago (yeah, I know, funny number), the last "witch" was burned in Denmark.. All because of your shit religion. People even killed cats because of your demon "god".
>>543461135God created the good cherub that would, by pride & self-exaltation, end up corrupting itself.
>>543461115Fuck off with your nigger repetition. Total Abrahamic Death. At the very least, all public displays of any religions should be straight up banned, and you should face capital punishment if you don't follow it.
>>543461135Well, they will say you can't have good without evil. So God, by himself, in isolation, simply couldn't be good. So he created the devil and made him the bad guy, so that he can then appear to be good.
>>543454594bell ends like satan are the problem.these things exist and are fucking evil and once you realise how evil they are youll be begging god to save you
>>543460650Accounting for != CondonementJust because God addresses it doesn't mean it's expressly permitted without punishment. Teleology basically addresses half of the posters in this thread as automatically acting in bad faith because the issue has nothing to do with evidence, faith has to deal with what is already true, atheists get ass-mad when they realize that nothing about their evidentiary models is totalizing, as it would need to be in order to implicate that their position is merely relational of reality. The bible starts from the same context they're in, and clearly shows multiple times that the context they find themselves in is insufficient to establish faith. Yet everyone already uses it by necessity because of causal reasoning and the like. Everytime i had to debate-team against atheists in college, they heavily relied upon brute-fact. Which told me that they were considering everything they presently experience, time, 3 dimensions as the only thing reality entails, and they're basically doing what hume did with Is/Ought. Just assuming right off the bat that they can establish a relational system whilst being within it, without possessing total knowledge over the context. Kant even recognizes this stupidity, he just doesn't infer it this way because he ends up expressing the idea as a limitation of frustration, it's quite literally why faith exists, if you are a created being, and do not possess absolute scope over creation, you are going to by default, be able to express faith, and required to by ontology. Meaning atheism is trying to ground reality within itself, thinking that teleology has always ever implicated that God is an object that can be possessed, and it shows you what they're idolizing, themselves, because they're using what they currently percieve to be what they are when its all derivative, including themselves. Hence, idolation is condemned in the first fucking commandment, because its precisely why evil is even relevant.
>>543461115>you have to be with jew #1 or jew #2abrahamic duality trapI reject your kike tales
>>543461194But he would have known that in advance since god is omnipotent right?
>>543460646>Why was this not fixed if it's wrong?this will only be fixed in Heaven. before it you have to consciously make the effort of choosing to do the right thing - which isn't easy. Nobody said that it was going to be easy. even if we want to do the right thing, not always we know which is which, so we need to be humble and pray for help from Him. asking Him to grant us discernment, just as Solomon did before the judgment involving those women and the single baby—where both claimed to be the mother.Try to pray the rosary, it is a contemplative meditation. I pray everyday. It really helps me to see how everything around me is evanescent, except the Self, which is eternal
>>543461224Supplanting jews sounds more antisemitic than just disbelieving them.
>>543461209I love how Christcucks can apply "human understanding" to God and his actions, but when you ask them "Who created God?", they will pull shit like "Uh, he's always existed!", to which you say "Hmm.. But nothing can't just "always have existed"".. And then they go "b-but it's beyond a human to understand". Constant fucking cherrypicking. Imagine having your brain filled with that semitic trash. Holy kek.
>>543461162>>543461208You are no arbiter of Good for you are an enforcer of Evil. You are a slave to Satan and so are incapable of rendering righteous judgment.>>543461224a kike is a hater of Christ, and so technically only anti-Christians are the kikes in this world.>>543461241Of course, Yahweh declares the end from the beginning.
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