That's it. You shouldn't need to have 3 room mates
I don't need to pay people anything. Yet the government takeea my money and does it anyway.
>full time minimum wage>2 bedroomsWhat? No shit. Minimum wage should only go for 1 bed room with necessities and maybe a little extra. Thats what minimum wage is, fucking retard.
Minimum wage jobs are meant for teenagers. If all you can make is minimum wage, you don't deserve a 2 bedroom apartment.
>>543458708It sould be "are" not "is".
>>543458834I know teenagers right now who make double minimum wage
>>543458708you are not supposed to earn minimum wage, you are supposed to gather/attract skills as you work & learn and move up the pay ladder, minimum wage is for high schoolers who work part time and live at home
>>543458708Goyim need to find a partner to split the bills to pay rent.
>>543458708Full time minimum wage should get you a one bedroom or a studio, if you need more then get a better job.
>>543458708there is only one real solution. everything else is theatre. if don't deport tens of millions, it will never be affordable no matter how much you build.DECLINING POPULATION = AFFORDABLE PRICESIncreasing population = higher prices.
well damn I guess 400 million americans are all homeless? o wait...
>>543458708>2 bedroomMinimum wage wont even get you a bathroom to sleep in. Why do journalists do this shit?
>>543458708>I'm going to get paid by the government just for being alive!https://rumble.com/v722fug-the-monkeys-have-taken-manhattan.html?e9s=src_v1_sa%2Csrc_v1_ucp_v
>>543458936No, it's get married, make more money and build more houses. Genocide death cultists like you should take your own advice and go hang.
>>543458708Why aren't libtards renting their place out for 400/month?I thought they believed in helping the poor
>>543458708>minimum wage>full timepick one. min wage jobs are getting less than 30 hours to avoid a bunch of bullshit the employer would need to give you.
>>543458708Stop with the antisemitism
>>543458834I work at a general store where everyone there makes minimum wage and some of them are like 60 years old. Luckily my boss is also my landlord and I have cheap rent
>>543458936isn't it amazing how rapes are correlated with rising housing prices? i wonder what happened in Canada in 2014 that caused this rise? hmmmmmmmm
>>543459141Your employer should give you benefits even if you don't work 40 hours
>>543458959>Why do journalists do this shitIt's to make all of the people complaining about dogshit pay look wrong and spoiled and lazy. It's like how they blow up a tech faggot making $100K complaining about living paycheck to paycheck and ordering take-out and Doordash every day for migger types to say see "People are so spoiled. If you niggers would stop spending on Doordash, you'd have money for a house"It's also a bit disingenuous. The only place where you could possibly live off minimum wage is either rural Washington state OR rural New York state.
>>543459085How many "libtards" do you think are landlords, dumbass. Most are poor
>>543458995Please kill yourself you foreign brown piece of shit. Mass deportations are need. Millions of you fucking invaders need to die or leave. You choose.
>>543459347I've spent many of my summers at my libtard friend's beach front mansion
>>543459172lol highest is living in a van, love clown world
>>543459242What's the minimum wage in your state
>>54345961917.13
>>543459242How “lucky” for you to be so dependent on one guy
>>543459380Virgin rage from a demoralised cuck bitch. Keep crying, I'm sure it'll help you.
>>543459737So you see what I mean
>>543459659Lol. So you ARE in Washington state.>>543459804It's disingenuous. In reality, you can't afford a 1 bedroom apartment on minimum wage in most areas.
>>543458708>a 2 bedroom apartmentI make 5x min wage and live in a studio
>>543459958yeah
>>543458708Why should a single salary pay for two people's rooms?
>>543459273>isn't it amazing how rapes are correlated with rising housing prices? i wonder what happened in Canada in 2014 that caused this rise? hmmmmmmmmkek
>>543458708thats what happens when minimum wage and handouts get combined. unfortunately you cant beat inflation with min wage increases and free shit
Fuck you kid, I'm 50, back in the 90s it was me and 6 guys from college cramped into a two bedroom apartment in new york. We worked 60 hour weeks and eventually we made it in sales and then I discovered XRP and silver and am waiting for the BOOOOOOM and I'll be rich.
>>543458834If you change careers or job lines, you'll have to start from scratch. I was making nearly 30/hr easily in other fields and had to switch due to disabilities. If I were to ask a company only paying 18/hr, "hey can you pay me at least 20/hr cuz I'm way overqualified for this job?" they'll just laugh and say, "no, have a good day, bye."Sometimes it's not about what you "can" make. It's about what you're "allowed" or "forced" to make due to constraints. That said, you only need a 1bed/bath as an individual so if I was making enough to afford a 2bd/bth I'd be banking that spare money.But beggars can't be choosers.
>>543460534>I discovered XRP and silver and am waiting for the BOOOOOOM and I'll be rich.lol
>>543458824>men shouldn't be able to support their familieswhy?
MINIMUM WAGE JOBS 50 YEARS AGO SUPPORTED AN ENTIRE FAMILY OF 3 KIDS WITH A PAID OFF HOMEYOUR KIKE MASTERS ARE RAPING YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN
>>543460927He lives in a zuttslamic country, he wants to go get zutted in the desert instead of marrying a woman
>>543458834>jobs are meant for teenagers>>543458879>minimum wage is for high schoolersNice revisionist history move being it's well documented minimum wage was meant to be the wage of a decent living as stated by FDR many times as it was becoming law. Being you need every level of job being done to have a functional civilizational.Anyone working full time at a job should still afford some sort of life. As it's pretty BS how wages have stagnated and we don't riot over one of the largest employers, as in Walmart, using massive amounts of gov aid for the workers they don't pay enough.https://archive.nytimes.com/takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/07/f-d-r-makes-the-case-for-the-minimum-wage/
>>543460283>>543461218
>>543458834Ah yes the minimum wage night janitor job that the teenagers should be doing between daily classes. Ah yes the fast food job in the middle of the afternoon when all the teenagers are at school.
>>543461326What it was meant for in the past is irrelevant. Nobody makes minimum wage. The law is not what decides how much people get paid., it's a foolish (propagandist) way to measure poverty.
>>543463215>Nobody makes minimum wage.You live in an unreality
>>543463421prices are determined by supply and demandwages are determine by supply and demand
>>543463509I'm not talking about federal minimum wage dipshit I'm talking about state minimum wage
>>543463568Liar
>>543463702What? What are you saying I am lying about?
>>543463730I'm posting the quote from your propaganda article in OP that you didn't read
>>543458708Imagine needing a job when you could just be a brown invader and get it all for free, get to work wagies Habib needs you to pay for his big house and 7 children
>>543463849You said yourself in >>543463509 that virtually no one makes federal minimum wage. The article is about how even the much higher state minimum wages aren't enough to afford it. I think you're just really dumb.
>>543463910No, the article is about what is pictured. You put zero thought into the garbage you post about economics because you're an maleducated moron.
>>543458708and while you are slaving a way for this piss sorry goal, theres all sorts of foreigners and shitskins getting free housing for years now. America isn't for Americans anymore, we've just been paying to be replaced for a good while now. You work 2-3 jobs and sleep in a car while paco and gomez sit on their fucking ass popping out 7 kids, and now its muslims too
>>543463908qft pal its beyond fucked and idk why anyone even bothers, they should be dragging fucks like that out of their house and just claiming them
>>543463965I'm pretty sure minimum wage in West Virginia isn't 18.94 anon. You're a moron
>>543460927if you want to support your family, don't work minimum wage jobs
>>543464023I'm sure it isn't. But the fact that they decided to make the comparison to federal minimum wage instead of the West Virginia minimum wage shows the level of analysis that went into the article (virtually zero). Likewise, anyone who uses minimum wage as a metric for poverty is someone who has no fucking clue what they're talking about. It's low IQ ragebait.
>>543464121>But the fact that they decided to make the comparison to federal minimum wage instead of the West Virginia minimum wage shows the level of analysis that went into the article (virtually zero)OK so just so we're clear, the state minimum wage isn't enough to afford it either?
>>543464259Of course not. But the minimum wage is completely arbitrary relative to the actual wages in any place. Picture this:State 1: 20th Percentile wage is $16/hr, minimum wage is $12/hrState 2: 20th Percentile wage is $15/hr, minimum wage is $13/hrBoth have the same cost of living.Which state pays better?
I have a min wage job they don't give you enough hours to do anything, the managers and old people and women get those hours, if you're a white male you're fucked, you make more money mowing lawns in ONE day then you do working in a store for an entire week
>there IS now 0 US statesNigger nation.
>>543458834the majority of minimum wage jobs are held by people supporting families. two thirds of minimum wage jobs are people over 20kill yourself, capitalist
>>543465815Not only that but theyre were being filled by h1b jeets, not even teenagers could get them!
>>543458834The problem is teenagers only fill a fraction of those jobs temporarily. So now you have a choice jew, pay white people enough to breed. Or kill white people and import infinity browns.
>>543462949Teenagers aren't in school in the "Middle of the afternoon".Minimum Wage jobs are starter jobs.
>>543463421Find me a job that pays 7.25 an hour, commie. Go ahead.
>>543463568Doesn't matter. State Minimum Wage in West Virginia is 8.75 an hour, and McDonalds pays 12-13.https://labor.wv.gov/wage-hour/jobs-act/minimum-wageYou're lying. Democrats and Commies want to pass minimum wage laws so they can take credit for the moon blotting out the sun and threaten to do it again if you don't comply, and they want wait-staff to make "a living wage" so they can tax 100% of it, and not just "what the waitress reports are her tips for the period".They're all liars and thieves.
>>543458708This isn't a wage problem, it's a currency valuation and spending problem. You can't live off credit indefinitely and guess what our currency is based on...that's right, credit. Both our government and people spend more than they produce in wealth because of this, more so on the government and wealthy end of the spectrum. Who is to blame for this? It's an answer you don't want to hear because it means taking on a responsibility your ancestors outsourced and your parents never taught you as your duty as a citizen. The answer in short is YOU, to be more precise it is your duty to rein in government and in turn making that system rein in the wealthy, not bleed them dry but limit them as you would government. Power MUST be brought to heel by the will of its people, no one else will do it for you and it's not some authority figure's problem alone.
>>543458824During boomers times (1965) minimum wage was 50% of the MEDIAN rent.You don't hate ladder pulling boomers enough.
The Median rent in Charleston WV is $1083. Rents range from $700 to $1800Are you telling me you can't pay $700 a month when you make $2200?
>>543458708>You shouldn't need to have 2 room mates.next up - "why aren't people having babies"
>>543458834Paying someone less because they're younger or starting out is an excuse to underpay both me AND the teenager.They do the exact same thing with illegal immigrants, except doing it with teenagers is considered more socially acceptable. Cause reasons.
>>543468020>During Boomer Times Minimum wage was 50% of the median rentNo shit?Well we're better off now then, because Minimum Wage of 8.75 an hour in West Virginia is able to cover 150% of the median rent instead of just half.
>>543468169>I should start out with the same wage as the CEOYou should start out with sucking on the business end end of a shotgun.
>>543463509>wages are determine by supply and demandNo, wages are a push and pull between a greedy billionaire who spends millions every year to keep me away from pennies, vs my willingness to sleep on the street and starve.And the not starving option basically always wins. Starvation sucks. You'll end up robbing people in under 2 weeks instead of wasting away.
>>543468224CEOs should start out with the same wage until they prove they won't drive a company into the ground for short term profits.
>>543468178>we're better off now thenOur quality of life may have shifted for the better but our prospects have dwindled to a pittance, the disparity between middle-class and poverty is a massive gray area one can easily die in. The largest hindrances are government regulation and congress's budgeting on pure seat-of-pants speculation.
>>543468224Yeah, that's literally what I said. Not under paying teenagers literally means pay me as much as Elon musk. Ya got me.
>>543460927if you're working minimum wage past 24yo you have no business starting a family because you've already proven that you're too irresponsible and lazy for it
>>543458848now now, Nigelyou can't expect commie retards from third world shit holes to use proper grammarif they were the sort of people to do a good job and pay attention to do doing things right their native lands wouldn't be shit holes and you wouldn't see them shitting up our culture with their stupidity and entitlement in the first place they're just retarded little esl subhumans after allby the way, how is the grooming gang situation coming along? Have you bongs figured out how to enact justice yet or are you still such cucked little simps that you cower at the thought of some karen calling you racist or of a homosexual Bobby deciding that you've caused offense to a precious precious muzzie?
>>543468402You said>Paying someone less because they're starting out Those are YOUR words.
>>543468383CEOs do what the board and the shareholders want.
>>543468830Yeah? Did you take that to mean "pay them the maximum amount"?
>>543458936at the dawn of capitalism (the English Revolution) capitalists used their new power of state control to do the seemingly petty thing of enforcing their "property rights" on tracts of forest land they "owned" using physical force to push off "trespassers" who would gather fallen sticks to use and sell as firewood. unable to eke out a living in this manner thousands were left no other option but to join the masses in the cities where their addition to the labor market had the effect of reducing wages and working conditions amongst all the city's major employers..... which was what those capitalists had been aiming for all along.housing shortages and increased migration are all products of the same beast. it's their oldest playbook.
>>543469161That's the only way to take it.>Paying someone lessLess than WHAT?
>>543463702define "afford"?
>>543458708Oyyyyyveyyyyyy activate the communist accusation!!
>>543469211>That's the only way to take it.It's really not.>Less than what?Less than the average pay.
>>543458708The same people who say this also want to raise taxes and import a billion 3rd worlders.
>>543469427>Afford is a verb that means to have enough money, time, or resources to buy, do, or spare something.
>>543469829>want to raise taxes Mostly on the rich. I doubt you qualify.>and import a billion 3rd worlders.Depends on the philosophy.
>>543458834This is true.You should be earning it by breaking into the homes of people like this and taking their stuff by force.
>>543469798>AverageAh the great IQ filter.
>>543463702They're using the federal minimum wage, which is sort of useless since all the states have their own
>>543459380TSMT
>>543469876No, they want all businesses to be taxed higher. All businesses of all types. This results in the costs of everything sky rocketing (see: Cali, NY)Fuck your shit eating nigger philosophy. Total leftist death.
>>543458708Perfect. The goyim cannot reproduce.
Reminder there is an entire class of boomer small business owners who subscribe to the "school of hard knocks" idea and will get angry, viscerally angry, at the concept of paying employees more than the minimum. Durinf Covid the wages went up. Now a jew wouldn't care, it's just a supply and demand calculation for him, he just pays the market rate. But these boomers were having full on emotional meltdowns, shaking with fury at the idea, the sheer notion, they would pay someone more than rock bottom. They started having tantrums, screaming and crying, demanding the government use artificial means to lower wages immediately. These guys come from a protestant mindset where they literally believe imposing suffering on other people helps build their character or....something. For them the wage is not just a market calculation, it's tied up with their emotions.
>>543470019>I personally know what tens of millions of people think about taxesUh huh. Sure.>Total leftist deathNot a leftist. Socialist, anon. Socialist.
>>543458834If wage does not allow to live why work?
Why are there so many cucks nowadays?
>>543469838i mean could they afford it if they stopped starbucks and subscriptions?
>>543458834sucked any jew dicks lately?
>>543458708WHO WILL THINK ABOUT THE POOR LANDLORDS!!!?THIS IS BLATANT ANTISEMITISM
>>543458834>deserve>rigged systempick one jew
>>543458824and yet it doesnt even do that jew funnyit doesnt do anything it “should” domaybe because “should” is just an idea in your head
>>543458708They voted for government, and now they're complaining. Guess what? They're going to vote again!
minimum wage should mean you're able to afford somewhere to live and feed yourself etc It's fucked that americans are allowed pay their workers a wage they can't even live off
>>543458834>Minimum wage jobs are meant for teenagers.So it's a bad sign if your country is full of grown ass people working them, right?
>>543460927Stop being antisemitic
>>543473974I... Didn't see anything about voting.
>>543458936>it's just supply and demandretarded argument for the financially illiterate, didn't you learn anything from the GFC?
>>543473974the only person i ever voted for was donald trumpand that was specifically to say fuck you to politiciansnone of them are on my sidethey are all anti white jewish lovers
why do you need 2 bedrooms? what are you trying to do, start a family before you're too old? that's no good, especially if you're white. immigration from india will handle population growth goy.
>>543458708Capitalist gibs only existed when they had to buy your loyalty against USSR offering a working alternative. Golden age of 1950s-1990s West was never natural, it was an investment to buy your future. Now no need to pretend, goyim slaves will live as they should and be replaced asap just to make sure.
>>543474184So uh, was it worth it?
>>543474429my vote doesnt mean anything voting is fake and gayyou are asking the wrong question
>>543474459Well that wasn't a "yes"
I'm very interested to read some stories about how you guys fuck up at life so badly that you're only earning minimum wage. Give me your spiciest greentext failure-porn.
>>543475987Yeah, I don't think anyone's gonna indulge you
>>543458708Does anyone in the US actually make minimum wage? You can sit and do nothing at a gas station for like $12/hr
>>543458708What is wrong with you that you need a job that is meant for 14-17 years old to get some pocket change? Holy fuck you dumb nigger.
>>543458936Illegal immigrants stuff 20 people in one house and get jobs putting up drywallNatural citizens have 1-2 people in a 4 bedroom house and get a laptop jobOne of these groups can improve housing supply
>tell rightoids for years that minimum wage should be increased and people deserve a living wage>Tell them this benefits everybody>Tell them it makes a better society>They refuse and protect trillionaires>They now cry and blame DA JOOOOOS for why they can't afford rentYou get what you fucking deserve.
>>543479731so you wouldn't have an issue if we raise it then?
>>543480121>da jooskill yourself
>>543480156Raising it to $10 would probably have basically zero effect on economy
>>543480219raise it to $25 then eliminate food stamps
>>543480241I'd rather just have a UBI rollout that slowly increases from 2027-2037 that grows from $0 to $full time neet
>>543480121>Just pay everyone $100million per hour so everyone is richYeah you must be a german SPD politician, nobody can be that retarded.
>>543480241The only thing that would do is raise the rates of crime.
>>543480121if minimum wage in your state hasn't increased in the past several years that means your state probably has a population of less than a million. in my extremely high minimum wage state we're inundated with low skilled workers trying to take all the apartments.
>>543480340you really hate the working class huh
>>543480121Denounce the talmud right now.
>>543468178Assuming a marginal tax rate of 10% you need to work 16.5 eight-hour shifts at minimum wage to afford median rent in Charleston, WV. The average month typically has 22 work days. Which would make your remaining budget for all food, gas, utilities, car insurance, health insurance, etc. etc. is about $345/mo. That's assuming you have no outstanding debts and no other expenses beyond bare essentials.Good luck.
>>543458773The government gives your money to richfags lol
>>543480664Richfags deserve it they are rich ergo better online players
>>543458834Teenagers are in school. Should all minimum wage jobs also be 2-4 hours a day and only outside of school time?
>>5434587082 bedroom apartment seems extravagant for 1 min wage worker. I think a loser couple made up of 2 min wage workers should be able to easily afford a 1 bedroom apartment with money left over ideally.
>>543481643The point is that it shouldn't be. A single man on min wage should be able to afford a two bedroom apartment and keep his wife at home for the kids.
>>543481715Then no one will strive to get higher skilled and higher paid professions that are actually crucial for a functioning society unlike McDonald’s slopslingers. Anyway, it’s your people who are making even a studio apartment unobtainable for Canadian min wagers because you guys have no problems sleeping six to a room.
>>543479792>>543468169
>>543482004>Then no one will striveNonsense. Well fed people with good living space strive for higher pursuits. Not the opposite. >because you guys have no problems sleeping six to a room.They should be able to afford two bedroom apartments too. So the problem is less houses (and of course free market capitalism.)
>>543481715jeet... stfu and get back in your cesspitgo focus on whatever fecal matters go on in your own shit hole and quit worrying about whatever is happening in human countries: it has nothing to do with you, it's not your business
>>543474340Why do you need two bedrooms to START a family? You're not going to want to put your Newborn into the other bedroom for six or eight months. That's literally just this behavior
>>543482232>Little shit stain had a meltieDid you piss and cum in you pants too?
>>543480121We already established that nobody is actually PAYING minimum wage.>>543467941 And that the only reason Dems are trying to raise it is so they can collect raise the guaranteed minimum tax they can get from you.
>>543480543>I should be able to live a middle class lifestyle on the minimum wageKYS you utter faggot. Median means half of the rents are cheaper. Why do you need to move into a middle class apartment if you can't get a middle class job?Move into a cheap apartment or if you MUST live in a luxury apartment, get roommates.Minimum Wage literally covers the bare essentials and that's it.
>>543458708If people keep working without pay, they're just going to work for someone else they enjoy and no one wants that.
>>543482170>They should be able to afford two bedroom apartments too. No they shouldn’t because they are a slave caste imported for the purpose of enriching those above them. If you’re at the bottom of the Ponzi scheme you don’t get capstone level goodies. Maybe they will eventually if the base of the pyramid scheme keeps expanding. >So the problem is less houses (and of course free market capitalism.)You don’t believe in unregulated free market? Ok great, me neither. That’s why I am promoting the idea of reparations for white Canadians. Unfortunately we will be a minority soon. Time is running out and it’s not looking good. When I was preaching reparations for white people to my co-workers the other day they either thought I was joking or called me racist.
>>543458824Don’t bother. These entitled lazy fags just want free shit. It’s better for governments to start cutting up all the welfare and let societal darwinism take its course. Keep drones, ICE and prisons on standby since a lot of losers have a criminal mindset waiting for them
>>543458824Retard.My grandfathers (both sides) raised family of 20 on one salary. Can't do than because women need careers lol!
>>5434587081 bedroom is enough this is ragebait.
>>543458848>should be are>Where a full time minimum job are enough to afford a 2 bedroom apartment. Better?
>>543458708Why is it when people talk about affordability it's always that jobs don't pay enough? I should be able to afford a 2 bedroom apartment for $10 a month in rent. Then it doesn't matter what the minimum wage is. Same for food, a burrito should be 25 cents maximum.
>>543458708You can barely survive off 50k you will be broke after paying rent and buying gasoline
>>543463702Shouldn't an apartment with 2 bedrooms also have 2 incomes to support it?
>>543458708>>543458824>>543458834>>543458901Any citizen who works full time, regardless of the task, should be able to afford a comfortable living space, basic amenities and participation in cultural life. A state that is unable or unwilling to produce these conditions should be overthrown.
>>543484171How will they afford families? Is your solution to only have welfare immigrants and nogs breed while whites are forced to work for a single bedroom apartment?
>>543467711So, if your employer decides to pay less and reduces your compensation to Minimum Wage levels, would you call your own job a "starter job" meant for teenagers and uneducated adults? Curious why all companies don't just pay minimum wage until a serf has reached a time or objective-based threshold, like "Anon worked here for 10 years, company policy says we will reward his dedication with Feif Lord levels of pay now, because it's illegal to fire him after the first year of attendance." Why not? >t. has never cleared 25k/year
>>543484483Based.
>>543458708The worst part about having roommates is they are always normie breeders who have sex constantly and it's just really annoying to a sexless asocial psychopath like me. It actually makes me kind of mad that other people have normal social lives and I just constantly hate.
Why would it afford a 2-bedroom apartment? Are you going to sleep in two beds in two different rooms on your minimum wagie job?Minimumwagers shouldn't have kids anyway.
You're witnessing in real time why the "free market" doesn't work. Cost of living is decoupled from what people can actually afford, so you get the simultaneous effect of labor costing too much while people still struggle to make ends meet because they can't afford to live where their jobs are.
>>543463509Except the demand-side of labor is artificially manipulated via outsourcing/immigration (legal and illegal) H1B/TFWs etc...Capital class didn't play fair, they can reap what they sow
>>543468460Not all of us have Jewish mafia connections like you
>>543488432*supply-side, which also distorts the demand-side of housing/cost of living
>>543458708>Voting for unlimited immigration You made your bed. Sleep in it.
>pay people enough to surviveBut we didn't sell enough milkshakes this week to do that.
>>543488432It's not a question of fair or unfair. I'm not "taking the side of capital" even though you think I am. I'm making a factual statement about the irrelevance of minimum wage to discussions of how well-off people might be.>>543468341The desire you have to not sleep on the street is a part of supply. The most important aspect you're neglecting is alternatives. It's not you and one potential boss, it's you and millions of bosses (demand). If you're not making them compete for your labor, that's something you should fix in your life.Most leftist conceptions of economics come down to not understanding supply and demand.Just a quick post between doing other things. Don't expect immediate follow-ups.
