The reason why the US is having trouble making more Patriot Missiles after depleting its stock to defend Israel's borders is because the Patriot Missile system requires highly specialized and the highest grade of "ball screws".A ball screw converts a motor's spin into a straight push. Steel balls roll in a spiral groove, so about 90 percent of the motor's effort becomes push, against 20 to 40 percent for a plain screw. With the best grade, C0, the nut can travel 30 centimeters and end up within only 4 microns of where it should be, one twentieth of a hair.Cold-forming the thread inside a ball screw nut 13 mm in diameter takes about 3 seconds. Grinding the same thread takes about 6 minutes. Aerospace screws are hardened to 60 HRC first, which warps the bar, and then ground in a room held at 20°C.If you warm a 30-centimeter steel screw by one degree, it grows 3.6 microns. That alone uses up almost all of the 4 microns the best grade allows.Umbragroup's plant in Saginaw, Michigan, grinds aerospace ball screws. In the early 1940s it built the first ball screw used on the B-29 bomber. Eight decades later, 173 people work there.
it's dire
>>543461039just outsource it to India
>>543461113There is currently a years long backlog for the highest grade of ball screws. This is because making one requires a highly trained machinist and a specialized environment to manufacture them and the entire process of manufacturing one is a closely held military secret which further reduces options to expand production.
>>543461204do you know where and when you are? the root of the problem is not the ball screw. this nation is set up to be a sacrifice. we won't meet again but it's likely you'll see that by the end of this year. if you don't live on a lake and have great soil and access to tools and the means to maintain them, it's not going to be good. prepare, worst case is i'm wrong and you're set.
>>543461039>the nut can travel 30 centimeters
>>543461039Yeah who knew making 100k$ missiles to block 250$ missiles and drones would work forever.
>>543461204>This is because making one requires a highly trained machinistWhy lie about it? It takes a high-quality CNC machining center. The "machinist" pushes a button to start the machine and then keeps the feeding mechanism stocked with metal. That's it.
>>543461204Bro, just 3d print it
>>543461888.... brah im a manual/cnc machinist of 20years, you have no experience in the field and this statement shows, these machines dont run perfect, and guess what tools wear, even the balance of the machine is a factor and you have to know how to troubleshoot these factors as an operator/programmer, tool inserts/coolant/feedrate/spindle speed, etc etc but no talk out of your ass more please
>>543461039>Ok but Mexicans can do this just as good once they are trained. Major stakeholder, Jacob Goldsteinberg, has assured me of this.
>>543461039Good. Who cares?
>>543461204That’s a really cool story. So why not just 3d print missiles like everyone else and stop producing overly complicated 1980’s technology? Oh well that would be bad for MUH capitalism. I can’t make 1000% on each missile produced if I do that. Well maybe shit like the weapons we make shouldn’t be wasted on MUH capitalism and the military should produce them instead. You know, like in Russia. Like in China. Like in India. MUH capitalism is obviously a weak point when it comes to manufacturing.
>>543461975holy shit....
>>543461204> highly trained machinist That probably ears a few dollars over minimum wage.Fuck your country, and Israel.
>>543461039Why couldn't you just measure the position uncertainty of a shittier grade ball screw and bake into the control software as a correction factor?
Why does anyone believe that they actually know how many Patriot missiles the US miltary has? What kind of moron thinks this information is public? Please cite your source for the number of missiles we have in stock right now.
>>543462090Well now Jacob has no iron dome or patriot missiles. Damn, what a retard. He didn't plan that out well at all.
>>543462251Your post is a crime in germany
>>543462328Because that plant is in some senator's/rep's district/state and making the screw in the most expensive way possible and imaginable, is good for the coffers of the aforementioned politicians. And they get kickbacks from the company and government too.You don't need shit that complex to make awesome missiles.
>>543462328The ball screws sit in the electromechanical actuators that move the missile’s control fins, each interceptor typically needs several of them. PAC-3 intercepts use hit-to-kill kinematics: the interceptor must physically collide with a target that may be closing at combined speeds around Mach 10. Small errors in fin position produce trajectory errors that software and the terminal divert motors cannot always recover in the last seconds. The mechanical chain therefore has to be stiff, repeatable, and free of lost motion under rapidly changing aerodynamic loads. Lower-grade screws typically have more backlash, lower stiffness, more variation from unit to unit, and less predictable friction and thermal behavior. Those properties directly degrade control bandwidth and accuracy.
>>543461888Absolute drooling retard. I gave the machinists orders but they were the first ones I went to when I needed help on a part or troubleshooting. What you're thinking is replacing one machinist with several million dollars worth of equipment in a production line that can give a consistent output within tolerance. No cutting/grinding system is going to give what you need an experienced machinist for.
>>543461039>MIM-104 PAC-3 missile>a solid fuel rocket >"a motor's spin"
>>543461039Why does a Patriot Missile need a ball screw?
>>543462636A ball screw turns a motor’s rotation into precise linear motion with low friction by circulating steel balls between a threaded shaft and a nut. In missiles they drive the actuators that deflect aerodynamic control surfaces (fins). PAC-3-class interceptors combine those fins with a large number of small attitude-control motors for last-second divert; the fins still need fast, stiff, repeatable positioning. A typical missile uses four or more such actuators.
>>543461039>>543462681nevermind >>543462527
>>543461039Magnets, how do they work ?
>>543461184this i trust the saargineers
>>543461039Sounds like a design issue. It's not a permanent thing like a fixed gun, it's a consumable. A missile explodes and it's gone. Making it this complex and hard to mass produce is just bad engineering.That's why it's losing to fiberglass drones.
>>543461425ok chicken little i hear this shit every year just maintain a garden and buy a .22 rifle
>>543461039what if their manufacturing plant got bombed and it destroyed their le epic tools lol I bet the property owners would be happy about the insurance payments
>>543461039they should hire more people or start fewer warsseems pretty obvious to me
>>543461204stop the cope, china already stole and copied it
>>543462719Is there a diagram somewhere that shows how this ballscrew/actuator stuff controls fins? I have no idea how any of this works.Is this how really precise robot arms work too?
>>543462719> In missiles they drive the actuators that deflect aerodynamic control surfaces>A typical missile uses four or more such actuators.Do 8000+ FGM-148s, 3000+ AGM-114s, 500+ BGM-109s, 400+ MGM-140s, 150+ RIM-161s, 165 Falcon 9s, and 400 to 500 military aircraft manufactured yearly by the Pindostan's gay-ass MIC all happen to utilize some fundamentally different, ball screw independent technology for heir control surfaces?
>>543463005>A diagramSomething like that would be top secret.
>>543462719you might as well post a datasheet and schematics if dumping intel like this
American don't have a coherent idea of what the US Government is supposed to do in the world besides bombing and spreading AIDS. They can't measure success unless the guy on TV is cheer leading whatever it was.
>>543462527This is why Air Defence is a joke. Muh special snowflake wunderwaffen that costs a gorillion dollars vs. a literal flying lawnmower (there are hundreds of them)
>>543462846>china copies ball screwsthey are about .2 microns off and that’s “within tolerances” and they making a shit ton more.
>>543462846China has been attempting to make their own ball screws for many decades. China even set a goal for themselves several years ago that they would achieve 80% domestic production of ball screws but as of 2025 they still import more than 90% of their ball screws from places like Europe and Japan in fact it is a choke point for the Chinese Military as well because if they were to support or engage in warfare with Europe or Japan they would have their supply of ball screws cut off the same way the U.S would have its supply of critical Rare Earth Minerals cut off if it were to go to war with China.
>>543463084Probably, yes. American weapon manufacturing is as much about pumping jobs and money into influential congressmen's districts as it is about making weapons. So military equipment supply chains wind needlessly through dozens of contractors spread across the country to produce a single type of equipment.
>>543463521>the same way the U.S would have its supply of critical Rare Earth Minerals cut off if it were to go to war with ChinaThey already tried that which is why the DoW partially owns a rare earth mine in California.
>>543463149Not at all because its the same type of system used for control surfaces on aircraft afaik.I just cant picture how the movement of a ballnut up and down on a ballscrew is translated to spinning a fin in different rotational directions. Seems pointless, like why bother with a motor spinning a screw instead of something hydraulic?
>>543462527The solution would be to have the missile explode and shoot particulates at the target before impact, thus increasing the tolerable margin of error.
>>543463634It controls the fin angle. The mechanical tie must not allow transfer of force from the fin, and also must be extremely precise and fast.
>>543463626It's a meme. You need a whole swathe of rare earths, not the handful that come out of that mine. Most of them are only obtainable in useful quantities as a byproduct of fuckhuge mining and refining operations of other stuff, good luck competing with China in steel and aluminium lol.
I think they need to make cheaper and smaller rockets that work more in tandom than the patriot so that high functionality isn’t required.Think of a system that has multiple 2.75” rockets (is that the standard size been used for a while?). They already have helicopter launched rockets like this that are no longer dumb rockets but that seek. So make those but longer to increase the range. Each should be IR based to go after missile exhaust heat and seek. With a scenario of 1 incoming missile, 3 or more of the cheaper rockets go after it and explode with fragmentation to knock it out. The control surfaces should not be as exact but the number of them makes up for it. After all every defense system can be overwhelmed if enough projectiles per second are incoming.So more like a cannon but with missiles, with smaller and cheaper batteries spread out so incoming has to spend more to knock out the system. Just more shit flying out.I am speaking out my ass so there’s probably a hundred reasons why my idea sucks.
>>543462413hes not germanprobably chinesehalf this baord is
>>543461039just got some domy from a homiehe from saginawtwis muh ballscrewsto muh shoes etc etc
>>543464164Russia and Ukraine have been working on this for 5 years now. There is no cost-effective solution, AD is too expensive and bottle rockets+drones too cheap. The best defense is offense and anything that absolutely must be kept safe is buried under concrete.
>>543463966Too complicated to allow for higher g forces to do crazy tight turns to intercept. There needs to be multiple layers with dumber rockets like my idea then these for other targets. I feel like all of this shit is just to raise prices so the def companies earn more. How about defense in depth instead.
>>543461039The complexity of a part is one thing, and there are many complex parts that go into the making of a Patriot missile, but complexity by itself isn't the reason why you lose the ability to make something you once could, within desired tolerances. The reason is because those who profit off the industry around such complexities are not those who are capable of performing the work needed to accomplish this feat. Sure, they get paid well, but it still isn't the kind of amount to access the capital needed to maintain such an industry on their own. So time goes on and if those who should be using their profits to maintain, hopefully even improve these industries, don't do that then you run into the problem of not being able to continue making these complex machines. It gets outsourced to places with less standards, it gets sold out to people with less standards, it gets less reliable. This is all a side effect of the fiat currency debt max system. When you remove wealth from reality you end up losing that reality within the industries that require it to function.
>>543464164> I am speaking out my ass so there’s probably a hundred reasons why my idea sucks.Surface area grows slower than volume, meaning less payload and less predictable manoeuvrability.Those rockets have to be fast, OP mentioned 10 Mach for both the target and the rocket.They also have to be equipped with sensors and control systems, which aren't exactly small or cheap either.Not to mention that your rockettinos would still have to have a similar control system than a large rocket, only smaller, with comparably bigger acting forces.>>543464324> too complicated If it's being used in rockets, chances are it is the simplest working solution there is.
>>543464282Yea that’s really true isn’t, it’s too easy to spam cheap rockets en masse and toss a few expensive ones in and missile defense can’t do anything about that.All of this is just insanity anyway, peace has always been cheaper. But greed is always more powerful, for some.I still like rockets tho, but more of the space exploration kind naturally
>>543462163The ass is right. There's a kind of dumb elitism with military contractors who inflate their perceived value. Since they have a government monopoly (for obvious reasons) they can get away with it. This is why we have $10000 screws and $5000 headlights.But where he is wrong is with how China goes about this. China actually engages in dual-use technology development (civil military fusion). By outsourcing component manufacturing to the civilian sector they can have them do 99% percent of the hard work, and when it comes time to make military use of civilian technology they simply repurpose it for military use. A capacitor is still a capacitor. You don't have to spend hundreds of hours making sure each component meets some unrealistic hard to achieve specification, so as long as its within spec.Why do you even need 99% efficiency power supplies when an 80% efficiency power supply suffices for a munition that gets destroyed in the end anyway? Shouldn't those 99% efficient power supplies (and their components) be used in datacenters where they will live a much longer life? As far as I'm concerned munitions should be made up entirely out of garbage disposable components which still kill their target (also garbage as far as I'm concerned).This is the human disposal business, there's no use in wasting billions of dollars on shiny toys when a rusty bucket of crap works just as well?
>>543464417Yea good points there’s a reason why they use fatter rockets on air to air rather than longer and thin ones. Not just to fit under the wing. I haven’t thought about it more than the time to shitpost it. Maybe converting air to air to ground to air like houthis did with outside help recently is the next solution. Somebody is going to sell a solution no matter if it works.
>>5434619753d print a plastic dildo and shove it in your ass. 3d printing is for low-t fags in their garage. if it aint steel it aint real.
>>543461425>2-12 more weeks Samefag here. Switched to my other device. Picrel is me btw, if that matters?
>>543466166What about 3d printing a reverse mold then creating a mold from that where you can pour molten steel into then machine into tolerances Or 3d printing a model of a machine or part that works but just not able to take the same forces, but proving that the idea could be worth making with real materials eventually I never remember many machine operators or machinists wanting to be mechanical engineers. This attitude is probably why.
>>543461039Bump for interest, nice effortpost.
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We probably ought to change to submarine drone armies
Isn't there a more efficient way to precisely control linear motion for travel lengths up to 30 centimeters these days?
>>543462759The problem with fibreglass drones is a ton of companies could make those, not just the big few defence contractors.
>>543466435As someone already told me it’s probably the best way given the forces involved, however if you did figure this out and patent it and successfully sell it you would be extremely rich
All to shoot down a Dorito powered by a lawnmower engine. Sad!
>>543466283I like the titties girly.But I think men look better with lions mane hair if you'd just pull it back. Keep the tits but cycle the estrogen with tren. It will make your gyno worse and cause male lactation
>>543461184This. If its good enough for the private sector, then its good enough for the jews.
>>543466626This is how we'll come back. ZOG simply won't be able to defend itself anymore.
>>543466283
>>543461039The jews wanted to cut costs so they reduced the manufacturing of a critical component to 173 people. They could have increased it to thousand and build those fuckers for storage.But then they would have to give 827 more goyim a livable wage. Some of them would even have a wife and kiddos. That would have been unbearable.Now sandniggers can bomb the USA. Because the jews screwed the screw business.
>>543463815I’m no expert but I’m guessing at ultra high speeds a missile with a HE warhead loses accuracy faster than an all solid kinetic rocket, since explosives can’t be as finely tuned in exact mass and volume tolerances as rigid solid materials, and the CEP you get from that at a high enough speed is bigger than the destructive radius of the explosion you’d get
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>>543466774I bet you anything the guys making those things make like 30 bucks an hour
>>543466308I think there's something about forge steel that's different to cut steel Also I'm not sure it's that easy to pour a mould with acceptable tolerances let alone print to those tolerances, but it would for sure be easier to finish a 3d print to tolerances and pour the steel than it is to shape steelLike I said it might not be that simple otherwise surely they'd have tried it right? They aren't stupid?
>>543466928Also if you don't know why it's that metal expands and contracts when poured, then needs to be analysed for quality (ie pockets of air or degraded/malformed internal density etc)
>>543462527If your adaptive system can't produce sufficient change for the application, then it is just a shitty design.The missile systems are already demonstrated as fraud and failure. Success rates like less than 1 in 5 and that is ignoring barrage and "system" attacks. When you talk about this ball screw, I just see a very weak link and would be floored if there could be a weaker one.
>>543466928He’s talking about cast steel, not forged, but he really doesn’t have a fucking clue wtf he’s talking about, he’s obviously never touched a machine tool
>>543461039its not openly illegal to hire white men, but, the investment banks that own every company command that white men not be hired
>>543461039Seems like a good place for our Chinese or Russian friends to go for a smoke break.
>>543461039Quartz oscillators is another reason. The USA is so much worse at making them than china. The best oscilators ive seen are s traight copies of Russian Morion designs. Producibility is in the toilet.
>>543461888How to tell some has never worked in manufacturing
>>543467138I think the main failure is how much that manufacturing is rotted and stagnant. These companies had government contracts for low volume of old product for a long time and they lost their capacity to be innovative, or to ramp up production when necessary. They are limping.
>>543461204>This is because making one requires a highly trained machinist andAnd let me guess, they don't want to pay the machinists a decent wage so nobody is fucking doing it?>"AHHHH SHAREHOLDERS NEED THE MONEY - MOST EFFICIENT SYSTEM!"
>>543466926I should hope so considering how critical such items appear to be. When you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
>>543467015They do use cast steel then machine it. Whats the issue? Why say I am wrong when 2 second google search proves I am right?
>>543461039Oh no! Muh Zionist Freemason P3dfile Colony will collapse!
>>543467187A lot of the problem isn’t innovation it’s scale. Making extra of something that tight tolerance is just a matter of getting more high quality machines, securing high quality material and tools and training the operators, but everything nowadays has to be “lean” and ran like a grocery store, with bean counters calling the shots. >>543467297A plumber or glazer makes like 40+ an hour on the low end. Machinists get butt fucked which is why nobody new is getting into it. You can spend a couple of weeks learning how to slap together a tin roof and make the same amount
>>543467289>>543461204>>543466926>>543467297Just looked it up, wow what a surprise they're paying them fuck all. Western "elites" are so fucking god damn entitled they'd seriously rather start a war, lose and get humiliated than go "Hey lets just pay them like we did 50 years ago". It is seriously that important that the money that could do that be sitting in an account offshore somewhere, than ever let John Citizen earn 50 bucks an hour.
>>543467381Look I don’t think you’re actually dumb, you just don’t know what you’re talking about. You have to know what machined castings are used for and what their limitations are, and unless you have a background in metallurgy and machining you won’t really understand. However, the gist of it is that casting doesn’t have uniform crystalline structure. It can’t hit the material specs you need for the part. Even if you could baby it into micron tolerances (doubtful), its internal atomic structure and hardness, toughness and tensile strength is not going to cut it.
>>543467476Actually they're paid far less because many use staffing agencies.t. worked as a machinist pre-covid and was "lucky" enough to be hired on and make $26 an hour while 90% of my coworkers were making 17 from some staffing agency.
>>543468651What 'value' does this staffing agency even provide? That sucks for you man, clown country shit, literally any other era you'd just have a proper job.
>>543468705>What 'value' does this staffing agency even provide?Bodies for slightly less. The worker makes 17 an hour, the agency makes 10, and you don't have to pay out benefits.And yes, the factory owner was jewish.
>>543467619I see, I agree with you and that’s interesting to know thank you
>>543461039Just like jews drew it up
Hit to kill seems like a meme, what's so wrong with getting close enough with a frag warhead like we have since the start?
>>543461039All that, and it hardly even works against anything that isn't a plane
>>543464645>You don't have to spend hundreds of hours making sure each component meets some unrealistic hard to achieve specification, so as long as its within spec.This is a good sentence.
did no one learn anything from ww2?all these fancy toys mean jack shit vs shitting out a billion simple mass producible weapons of a more streamlined designs
>>543461039The PAC is useless anyways against drone swarms, it exists purely to serve the interests of Military Industrial Complex.
>>543461039I still don't understand how Boomers are the most racist generation out there and still can't figure out its the kikes that ruined everything and continue to ruin everything for everyone especially for them. Truly baffling shit to me.
>>543461039Lol cope luddite, AI will replace you.
>>543461039We can just have China make these, like everything else. The business end will be run by jeets and a fat psychotic lesbian. Welcome to the Golden Age.
Using up over half your expensive interceptors in an unnecessary war against a poverty country like Iran is absolutely crazy.
>>543461039boo hoo, cry me a river. the mic is having trouble making ineffective obsolete technology because some fucking plant in bumfuck michigan can't figure out how to automate. the patriots are a waste of money, but so is the mic
we don't need no missiles dawg it's all good don't worry about it
>>543462373A book called Janes Weapon Systems is published every year.Latest edition costs about $2000.00 to buy.
>>543461039For anyone else here retarded as me who still didn't know what the fuck that thing is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEPrXljqeHA
>>543467289It's beautiful isn't it? The jews own greed is their very own sword to fall on.
If they need them bad enough they will expand production without security constraints They don't need them they don't care even with screws it's not cost effective and it can't work. 80 years ago the japanese used kamikze airplanes which were replaced by guided missiles and now backpack drones. No other country has the ability to make missiles, so the US has been staging wars with Israel for the past 8 years. Not a single war has been real, and it's sad to realize it now. No government wants to fight the US or anyone else except for survival. Now for the first time their is a war where a real Jew trying to fleece money is involved. He would rather right Russia with RC aircraft then give up billions. Do you think RC aircraft didn't exist during the Gulf war? If they really needed to fight they would have used them. The fact is Israel sets up criminals with AK47s who are unwilling to fight and creates a war like a movie script. But in a real war, people are resourceful. When the Vietnamese fought they were fighting for survival. There is no means to fight the US, but with explosives it's possible. Looking at how Gaza was bulldozed down the Israelis have no remorse and a lust for power like no other. It's sickening. Please kill each other completely.
>>543462413Don't worry, he's an indian in india using a VPN set to Germany so he can pretend to be white while posting BBC porn.(this is a joke based on the average user, not a personal attack.)
>>543471043I will enjoy watching AI investors go tits up and beg for mercy.
>>543462523If it's 1940s tech it's not muchnof a secret besides some proprietary (specialized) machine tools. I'm sure China cranks out a similar part for a couple for a couple of cents in seconds.
>>543462373LMAO
>>543461204Your post is all lies, it's Stalin-era technology. You literally sold us machines capable of doing it at the time of industrialization in USSR.
>>543466414Submersible Amphibious Assault Ship is the future
>>543462075... and it can be learned in a week. And it's not even a machinist's job to figure out why tolerances aint tolerating. Gtfo with this bullshit.
>>543461425>the worst case is you wasted all your time, resources, and energy prepping for something that will never happenYour retarded logic alone is why you should be ignored, further ive gotten this same warning from retards like you on 4chan for the past twenty years.
There’s always a problem with machines. Why do you think Kodak charges a dollars per roll for color film nowadays
>>543462719And? You've come here to impress not-knowers?
>>543461039Quick, hire more Indians and third world engineers to mass produce these.
>>543461425Your lake will be poisoned and your woods are flammable, you will not survive by isolation.
>>543463521They literally put ball screws into their CNCs. Seriously, go make a better story about how "le military us le 20000 years ahead in le technolgy, but they aint lettin us know cuz its sekrit"
>>543461039>Cope threadThe patriot system requires samarium fucking retard.
Guys, I've infiltrared secret Pentagon manufacturing facility, I'm looking at one of the few remaining ball screws. I'm about to steal it, leave uncle Sam with his pants down. No more Patriots for Israel! Glory to Palestine! Iran fuck yeah!
>>543478639That's so evil, will take months to replace them
>>543461425>> If I think Iam safe >> Iam safe You do realize people can just mad maxx and fuck up your little rural area right Anon. KEK
>>543461204NOOOOO ISRAEL IS GOING TO BURN OY VEY GEVALT ANONS
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT SPICS AND NIGGERS CANNOT MAKE THE PARTS WHAT ARE YOU SOME KINDA' RACIST??? NEON NAZI SATANIST???
>>543462163This lmao. Russia probably produces so many more missiles cuz they're not spending a year and a 100k on a single screw for an object destined to explode
>>543468705>What 'value' does this staffing agency even provide?Most Western countries have laws forcing businesses to hire a minimum percentage of women.In industries like metalworking, construction, etc. it's basically impossible for them to meet that percentage. Women can't or won't do these jobs.So they maybe hire a few women to do adminstrative bullshit and pay them to pretend to work, but there's a limit to how many they can afford to.That's where the staffing agency comes in. When you work through a staffing agency, you don't count to the businesses' male/female ratio.So what the staffing agency does is hire only women for their in-house "work" and only hire men for the out-house work.That's how job insecurity in these male-dominated industries is caused by feminist laws that force businesses to hire women.If it weren't for these gender quota laws, businesses would hire you directly instead of through a staffing agency.The staffing agencies are parasitic middlewomen profiting off male labor while adding no value whatsoever thanks to regulation.t. used to be a welder, had to work through staffing agencies numerous times
>>543462384Thanks doc
>>543461888The people calling you stupid are right.
>>543461204So it's a purposeful monopoly bottlenecking production. Its not hard to get a CNC in a temp controlled environment. This is why china deserves to win.
The main reason Americans won WW2 is that they were the greatest industrial power in the world.Now that their elites have hollowed out their industry (and soon their engineering too) to cheap out on wages, they're quickly finding out they can't build or maintain the military hardware that was the base of their power.And even when they can, it's extremely expensive to do so.How low the mighty have fallen.
>>543462373Coping zog loyalist
>>543463525The problem is we're not even doing the weapon making part. Just the profits and jobs.A lot of people in the federal government need to be unironically hung by the neck until dead in a very public manner.
>>543461039>The entire issue with America is it's inability to source one specific partIf only. That is just a single case symptom of a full-spectrum systemic crisis.The one perfect ultimate source problem is that America never gassed the Jews despite having ample warning.
>>543462163Your confusion is understandable because you're not a Kike.YOU think the military-industrial complex is for the purpose of equipping a competent and functional military.It's TRUE purpose is to make some Jew richer.Parasites don't particularly care about the health of the host, a looter isn't interested in keeping the store clean and intact.When your whole mindset is of a trespassing outsider intent on stealing, you don't care what you smash through to get at the treasure.You just want your loot and then to get out.That's Judeo-America. The people running things just want to get their riches and then fuck off to Israel or Argentina or Ukraine or where-ever once America is exhausted. You think America is a multi-generational family orchard. Jews see America as a gold-rush. get in, dig up the Earth, grab the shinies and get out, and if your apple trees get uprooted and thrown/burned down in the process, sucks to be you, goy.
>>543462373>ElginAFBnigger needs to be taught by anons what the US military has in stockThat's kinda sad ngl.You're paid minimum wage to suck zogdick online, we're a bunch of autists who ruin entire country's opsec because it's a Tuesday and we're bored.Maybe you should trust the guys that have no monetary stake in lying to you?
>>543469196No, most of us didn't learn anything from WW2 because most of what was taught about it is horse shit
>>543462373No one cited a source>We just know because we do okay!Lol
>>543470929because too many boomers either don't care, or they're christians/catholics so their entire intellectual and religious frameworks are built entirely about jews, the jewish messiah, and the prophecies involved in the gobbeldygook books that surround them.
>>543478803no you don't understand hhe and his family and neighbours are all totally gonna roll up to defend each other on vehicles they won't be able to get fuel for after a couple weeks. Or something.
>>543464645Mil spec is literally a tolerance classification. The US military doesn't think everything is going to work perfectly, they have expectations of what percentage will work. The US military also uses tons of civilian products. Hit up a government auction website and you'll see what I mean.
>>543463966how do the balls not fall out? Don't tell me they get recycled into some kind of reservoir...
>>543466926I make the machines that make pharmaceuticals for the largest pharma companies on the planet. I make 35 an hour.
>>543480398Basically this.
>>543461039Excellent to know. The US is a jewish satellite state. Therefore, the US does not have your best interests in mind if you are not a jew.
>>543481273They stay in the carriage. https://x.com/i/status/2104755328634212551
>>543461039we build these, retard. this is made in italy.you CANT BUILD THIS BECAUSE OF IMPERIAL YOU MORONS.you need METRIC.how hard is it.mutts whats the fucking matter with you.
you cant build anything thats small with imperial, this is impossible.
you would not have a single patriot without euros.you would not have a single semi conductor without euros.
the base for basically everything comes from eu and japan. the rest of you are redundant leeches.we tell you to switch to metric, you just wont do it.you want to handycap yourself.
this is a problem.
what umbagroup, the robot says its build in italy lol.you live in A FANTASYWORLD DUDE.
>>543461204free market would increase price, hire more machinists of skill likely, increasing their wage, meet the demand; or create competition firmsdo you have free market still?
in this fantasyworld of mutts they create everything and are numba won.in reality euros build everything and are just serfs for a bunch of retards who cant build any fucking thing and just push a button like the retards they are.they have 2 buttons off course.>retarder>extra retarded
>3D print 'emOk. But you prime them.
>>543461039A couple of Zip-Ties and she'll patch-right-up.
>>543482708Americans invented the transistor, the integrated circuit, and the processes used to make them. We looped you fags in so you'd have something to do.
>>543462251don't worry, that job will be automated soon yes right now its jsut a stacker, but soon it will be able to set up machining centers
>>543462075>you have to know how to troubleshoot these factorsLol, right to repair is still a thing?You don't have to call to the manufacturer of the machine and wait for them to send their team to open the sealed hatch and have a looksee and then file a ticket for the problem and then wait another team to arrive to actually fix it, or sell a replacement machine entirely?Lmao, even.Does your machines have smart cameras pointing to your face and body to analyze your mood and body language?
