Redpill me on tobacco/hand rolled cigarettes I'm 40 and I've never smoked in my life
>>543470390Dont smoke bud
>>543470390Well it's delicious and helps grow mustaches
>>543470390cheaper, more fun to roll your own, harder to chain smoke
>>543470390You smell like shit, your mouth rots and in exchange you get a buzz for 20 minutesIt's a shitty legal drug meant to satiate the goy.
absolutely everyone ive met who smokes will say they wish they could quit
>>543470390They're tastier to smokers, closer to natural flavour a little, freshness of a sack will fade if unsealed. You can also put them out easier and relight if you don't want to finish one. You need the filters too otherwise they pretty nasty. They're cheaper also.
>>543470390If you wanna start at 40 you should smoke pipe.
>>543470390Literal nigger behaviour
>>543470390It triggers your dopamin like crazy. So very pleasant to smoke, but you will get addiction and smell bad. The supposedly cognetive benefits are small, and eating Healthy, being in Sunlight and excercising does all you need for good cognetive health. Also, makes your last 10 years on earth painful.
>>543470390vices are gay escapism for abused normalfags, they just ruin your health and bring no benefit
>>543470390for me its american spirits perique
>>543470654They used to be cheaper than cigarettes but not so sure about that now, I'm keeping a bag to smoke in a couple years from now to see how quickly they burn if you let them dry out.
>>543470390theyre generally better but because you dont put shit in them tahey dont burn as evenly as comercial ones so you can end up with ash on your clothes.>>543470442every nation that reduced smoking or banned indoor smoking saw an increase diabetus and in social acceptance of faggots or non-whites. Smoking is healthy for society
>>543470644Yeah and even if you quit it will never be the same as before, it feels more like a long break. There will always be that yearning, craving deep down. That being said I have actually quit two times before where it felt great and natural, but I started again for idiotic reasons, and now I can't get in the zone to do it again.
>>543470806That's how all addictions are, the addict has to be the one who decides when to quit but society has made it everyone else's job to be a shaming and shunning society so everyone naturally hides their addictions to avoid the cunts.
>>543470390It's done here a lot, kind of a loopholento get around tobacco tax. Never met someone who hand rolls and isn't scum to be honest although growing their own and hand rolling that is a different story
>>543470390Don't smoke, the taxes go to government. Fuck'em.
Let's waste money and get addicted to a substance that does literally nothing except make you feel horrible until you get your next dose!
>>543470390there may be something to it coating your lungs in a protective way, but it certainly coats themtobacco itself is mostly fine it's the chemicals and shit getting added to it in the pre-rolled pack shit that's terrible, makes it much more addictive, makes the cigarettes themselves never go out on their own and burn faster so you consume more of them more quicklythe smoke itself also is effective for keeping fucking bugs off of/away from you so you can see how it was attractive in ye olden daysit's not really a "high" kind of thing though, even just straight tobacco will still addict you to nicotine, and what happens is it fucks up your normal, natural average "calm" without it, so that doing only gets you back to average, doesn't get you "high"
>>543470642>you get a buzz for 20 minutesFalse, you don't get shit for any minute.
i wouldnt start if you got past your teens without it.Cons outweigh any benefits
>>543470978you can get kind of this lightheaded thing if you put off feeding the addiction for a while and then do it, but it's still like this comparative nothing compared to "drugs"
>>543470602>harder to chain smokeI've personally disproven this theory.
>>543470785Oh you get spanked in the UK for this stuff.1/3 the price in Andorra
>>543470978Really? I always get a buzz and a little light headed every time. The nicotine fucks me upI thought it may be the inhaling so I tried nicotine gum too which was equally awful. Given your flag youre probably numb to it, or hopelessly addicted
>>543470390The tobacco industry is controlled by germanics exclusively that's why (((they))) want you to quit smoking so bad
>>543470390Smoking makes you look cool. Vaping is for fags
>>543470390The only reason to drink and smoke is to LARP like you live in olden times, ignoring the fact that drinking and smoking are absolutely terrible for you. So the sound advice is to not romanticize the past, but as conservatives, what do we have besides romanticizing the past? Having said that, I'm an alcoholic who binge drank daily until Sunday and now I have to quit because I'm pretty certain I've given myself alcohol-induced pneumonia after I read about Ambrose Bierce's son. So I'm not coming at this from a place of judgement at all. Charles Bukowski said "Do what you love until it kills you." But that's easier said than done. Maybe that's good advice when you become rich and don't have to work anymore. But if you have to work every day, the vices will just make it harder. It helps that I also have a retirement plan (Move to a safe third world country) but I can't retire until I'm 64, so I need to stay healthy.>>543470691This is correct. Not only is it classy, but the only risk is mouth cancer. Still, everyone's right to warn you that it isn't worth it. I could understand drinking and smoking at the end of your life though, now that I think of it.
>>543470642This. It also stains the skin of your fingers.
>>543470390>Redpill me on tobacco/hand rolled cigarettes>I'm 40 and I've never smoked in my lifeIt's not economical unless you live in Missouri.Smoking will make your loads huge, spray across the room in 4-5 forceful squirts.
>>543470390I roll my own cigarettes with normal tobacco and some special morrocan tobacco.
>>543470390I'll redpill you on cigarettes. Smoking is bad for you. There, now you're redpilled.Granted, there are anti-smoking groups the greatly exaggerate the effects of second hand smoke to try and get laws passed (no smoking in privately owned bars, etc.) that are borderline (if not outright) fascist, but that doesn't change the fact that smoking is bad for you and you'll be better off not doing it.
>>543471114That's part of it, Jews wanted in and weren't let in. But they are legitimately bad too which is why that was the way they were attacked
>>543470390it's nice sometimes, dont do it everydayif you're with buddies drinking it's just peak
>>543471381Second hand smoke reks kids in a car
>>543471381All of that is absolutely true. Its also true for alot of other shit people do in their lives that is also incredibly detrimental to longevity. Being lonely is more "unhealthy" than smoking and drinking heavily, both. You dont see many zealots combating this. You cant really have cities without people, and people do stuff, its part of the deal. People who want to control every aspect of society are retarded, they can go home and play dictator
>>543471266There's a couple ways that you can romanticize the past and stay sober. For instance, the first generation of teetotalers was actually in the late 1600's. Most did it for religious reasons, but some did it for health reasons. The problem is those people were exceedingly rare. Another option is you can LARP like you're a prohibition era guy who's on the straight-and-narrow, or you're a Leave it to Beaver type guy who shaves and wears a suit to work every day. (The last was always fiction though, in actuality the 50's were a huge time for drinking). So those are some options.
>>543470390You get brown smoker's fingers every single day.I use foot sandpaper scrubber to remove it
>>543470390Tobacco triggers an enzyme on your brain that lets you be more socialable and talkative. That's why Natives smoked it in groups and that's why bars and the common people smoked together. However it's bad when we meet in bars, cafes and clubs, and it's bad when we talk IRL, because we should all be here and online for ever.
>>543471564+ dip it in water
>>543471362Do you use one of those contraptions?
>>543470390Nice to have with a few beers, but makes hangovers worse, fucks up your lungs and gives you a lingering taste in your mouth. Also it's quite expensive. My parents smoke hand-rolled all day every day. They say a small bag of it costs like £40 nowadays, which is shocking imo. I've always been able to take it or leave it, but the thought of smoking outside of drinking hours makes me feel sick. I prefer snus. Much cheaper, better for the lungs, more direct and acute high. TLDR you're not missing out on much. Booze and weed are much better desu.
>>543471477>Being lonely is more "unhealthy" than smoking and drinking heavily, both.I'm increasingly disagreeing with this. I can't stand being around most people, and on my own I've been very active and lead a healthy lifestyle. I just had an annual physical and my doctor said I'm in great health and to come back in a year and keep doing whatever I'm doing. I don't smoke, but I do enjoy a glass of red wine more nights than not.
>>543471381as a natter of fact, smoking isnt that bad for you. Most early studies regarding the health effects on smoking didnt take in to account that most people thjat didnt smoke were actively living a healthier lifestyle. Thats why on a statistical level you see a direct corelation between the prevalence of type 2 diabetus and the reduction of smokiing although on an individual level, smoking should make you more likely to get diabetus.
>>543470390As a former smoker, don't do it, it ruins your life. Everything revolved around your next hit. Should anything prevent you from getting it, you will lose your temper. There are no angry people, just smokers without their nicotine.
>>54347039049yo smoker here, brother just don't start, please
>>543470390Smoking calms my adhd i feel. They also taste really good
>>543471018are you treating 'harder' the same as 'impossible'? wdym anon
>>543471949there's plenty of angry people who don't smoke buddy I've met plenty of thembut the anger thing definitely makes it much harder to quit, most I ever made it was 3 days without becoming worried I was going to end up in prison
it felt like walking around in this half dream state but rage like constantly brimming under the surface and 0 fuse
>>543472011>there's plenty of angry people who don't smoke buddyNah, they're smokers
>>543472081can absolutely confirm they were not, lol
anecdotal schmanecdotal and all, such evidence is worthless, but that's not even logical, humans were raging out beating each other to death long before tobacco was getting used
>>543470390>I'm 40 and I've never smoked in my lifeYou should start now. It s cool and 24yo hot japnese cashier dig it.
>>543470390>Redpill me on tobaccoThe only drug that gives addiction without pleasure.Truly the Jew of drugs...
>>543470390It's good for coping. When life's fucked up. You can blow smoke right in the face of those uppity faggots lecturing you about health when everything else is fucked up in your life due to those same cunts. It's punk.
>>543470390this >>543470442https://youtu.be/JNjunlWUJJIFirst of all don’t even start, if you do, don’t buy nicotine from a shop, which leads to habit forming rather than something spontaneousThe red pill is that it like coffee I guess but slightly different effect, stimulating and calming, helped me reduce anxiety before driving tests and such. Tastes bitter at first but you grow to like it and it’s a good starting basis to socialise with someone I guess
>>543470390i've smoked a shitload in my life, not worth it. waste of money mostly. smoke weed instead
>>543470602LOL it's not
Smoked on and off for years I can take itUp in my 30s and quit the next week Since I quit back when I was in my 20s starting again had no nervous energy and I found menthol and pop filters to be my goto did it again for a year recently but smoked Monday to Friday quit for the weekend wife hates it but I just was bored out of my mind waiting to get fired from a jobJust don’t smoke anymore cbf but vaping was absolutely cooked when you quit vaping the withdrawals are fucked feel it in your legs and you’re whole body’s nervous system is use to 50ML salt nicotine one guy on 4chan said it best years ago Quit smoking if you can you have willpower then you can control it because if you can’t your compromised and have a nigger gene In ya body
>>543472328sucks to be in norway then
>>543472268Yeah smoking really is the worst kinda "drug" there is, it doesn't give any fun effect other than sating the addiction.
>>543472636You must really suck at rolling
>>543470390the tobacco goops up on your fingers and makes you smell its not as cool as the meme says. you can roll them with filters i guess but then regular smoking is pretty much just as bad.
>>543470390Back in my youth days I used to grow Tobacco in a few 25 gallon planters. At the end of summer I would cut the leaves and then rinse them off and then hang them up in a closet with a small space heater and a humidifier running in it and daily mist them with a hand sprayer filled with sugar water for a week. Then I would dry them in a food dehydrator a few batches at a time. After they were good and dried I would put a desiccant packet into a gallon ziplock bag and stuff the leaves into it. Then I would take some out and crumble them in my hand and put the crumbles into rolling paper. I quit smoking due to asthma and family social pressure. The thing was that growing it and curing it yourself was so much cheaper than anything store-bought. Literal pennies on dollars. At the time a packet of 1,000 seeds cost 12 bucks and would make more than you could ever grow or use. I don't know what the seeds cost today, though.
>>543470733nice choice, im a drum fag
>>543471423You ever watched "Thank You for Smoking"?Look up who made that movie, it's all gonna make sense
yeah i hate to sound like randy tam the goatboy but cigarettes have exactly one use and that’s attracting girls. so for that it’s easier to just buy a pack of marlboro red’s every once in a while. rolling is one of those things that’s 100x harder than you would assume and it takes years of practice. only good joke joe rogan ever came up with was “only a retard learns to roll papers in a world where there’s always another guy around who can roll”. still got no laughs. one crappy beer and one cheeba gummy are enough to have most girls creaming. so focus on attaining those instead.
>>543473360I did gambler. tasted like complete shit but a 10 dollar bag would last 6 months.
>>543473246why must I
I hope all tobacco users get gum recession and tooth loss
>>543471423>>543473461The same kikes will say marijuana is good for you. Guess who owns the majority of the dispensaries?
>>543470390unironically don't start. It's just a sign of weakness. It was honestly on of the harder things to quit and does nothing for you.People develop a concept of it relieving them, but it's just that you take a mental and physical break when you do it. Learn to cope without demons.
>>543473721Sure, the Jews wanted to poison us with Cannabis, that's why they legalized it for themselves a decade before anyone else
>>543473676i'll still be gumming your mother's clit you little zoomer fag
>>543473778quitting caffeine is the first step everyone should take.
>>543471018Lmao>>543471065>>543471010Your body gets acclimatized and then you are left with the addiction but no buzz.Just a chore so that your body doesn't feel like it's shutting downEvery smoker lives long enough to be tired of smoking and regretting starting it ever in the first place
>>543470390It's just cheaper than buying cigs
>>543473804It's not legal in Israel.
>>543473829Why did you say that to him?
It's funny how non smoker fags always presume they know everything about them where in fact they are just parroting propoganda because they are brainwashed normies.
>>543470390Its fucking trash dont do It YOU WILL REGRET IT
>>543470720doesn´t trigger dopamine like crazy , it calms you down´t that´s all there is to it.
>>543473856you are essentially inhaling c02 all day. Which is basically the same thing as slowly suffocating yourself. I reached the point that when i avoided a cigeratte for longer then 10 minutes I would get high from oxygen. It was what helped me quit. Every time my body's rythm was expecting a cigarette it would instead get high from the oxygen I was getting.
I've smoked in the past. I think it's probably not as unhealthy as it's claimed to be if it weren't for the chemicals in commercial cigs. It is very addicting though and the cravings come on fast. I could not stand the lingering smell though. I like the smell in the moment but afterwards it's reeks.
>>543470390redpill? just try it if you're curious, words won't make you feel the buzz and tastemy favorites are kreteksi wish i had access to clove+tobacco blends if that's even a thing, i'd definitely roll my own given the chance
>>543470390Go with pipe (I like an English style), or premium hand-rolled cigars (like Oliva, Cohiba, etc). If you are a rare enjoyer of cigars, stick to B&M. If you are regular with cigars, use sites like CigarBid. I lose over 90% of the bids I place, but I do not budge on my max bids. Whethet 1 hour or 1 week to auction expiry, I set the max bid and walk away. My cigar cost basis is well below $3.50/cigar.
>>543475843Also you need a well regulated humidor if you're going to buy stock and age. Cigars are ass dried out. Research the topic and your options. Also never chief a cigar or pipe like a steam locomotive (except when lighting), like actors do in the movies; slow and cool both wins the race and tastes good.
Stay away from tobacco. Its highly addicting and ruins your health.Smokers are cultists who want to drag you down so you die from lung cancer.
>>543470390It's a terrible habit and contrarian faggots in the manosphere/manospher adjacent spaces have been paid by the tobacco industry to advertise it to insecure retards. >UM BUT OUR ANCESTVRS SMOKED AND THEY WERE MANLY AND STUFFthose faggots sold our civilization down the river so they could get a deck built by illegals they picked up at home depot for $2/hr under minimum wage.
I roll my own. I usually use bugler or American spirit. I have since switched to zynns and usually go through a pack of zyns a day. My cig habit has dropped to when Im drinking which is maybe 2-3 times a month. It’s a bad habit
>>543470962i wish people like you that say stupid shit like this were killed
>>543470390Grab some nice tobacco and roll one. You will feel like a million bucks.
>>543473856I've never met an ex-smoker that doesn't go glassy eyed and you see the fingers are their hand twitch when I start talking about a snowy morning before down, standing outside with a cup of hot black coffee. watching an old truck sit and warm up, steaming over in the driveway
>>543470390I didn't start smoking until last year and I only smoke maybe once every month or two. I only roll my own, I use carbon filters + cotton filters, all natural paper, and American spirits.My take is its very refreshing and relaxing if done sparingly, additionally it kills parasites and increases testerone so its generally good for men. I prefer it as a social thing but it is equally great if you're enjoying a moment at the end of a hard day.Like anything do it sparingly.Here's some links (lookup):Amazon:Raw-King-Size-Organic-Deal/dp/B007TO1HFCactiTube-Activated-Carbon-Filters-self-Turning/dp/B00JQ9ON0ERAW-Rolled-Filter-Natural-Rolling/dp/B08BB1C6GPOther:https://rawthentic.com/prawducts/papers/raw-classic/raw-classic-1%c2%bc/https://letssmokeshops.com/product/american-spirit-can-5-29oz/I prefer the organic variety but its hard to find.
>>543476452kill yourself drug peddler
>>543476584Stop being a bitch and smoke one. Probably help you stop being such pussy.
>>543470390They make your fingers brown and you also get specks of tobacco in your mouth, also you can'tbreally smoke them all the way down so you end up throwing out a lot of tobaccoBut they're still cheaper than a pack of marlboros
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