>Norks captured in Ukraine request asylum in South Korea>Seoul agrees but only on the condition of secrecy to avoid pissing off Kim Jong Un who would definitely execute their families and threaten military action against the South>Zelenszkiyiyyiy brags about the prisoner transfer at the fucking UN in front of the entire world>when squids ask why he broke their agreement, he literally laughs, denies agreeing to anything and tells them to fuck offOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/29/south-korea-ukraine-north-korea-prisoners-of-war-dispute-explainer
>>543480440>asylumweird way to spell "torture chamber"
>>543480440wait, what's his name again?
>>543480440>Norks captured in Ukraine request asylum in South KoreaIs there any proof of that? Because alternatively, sending PoWs to South Korea and then screaming about it from the rooftops would obviously piss the Norks off at a time when Worst Korea is trying to normalize relations.
Based Worst Koreans are going to assassinate him.
>>543480639>Is there any proof of that?We know that zelynsky is a lying stealing jew, but how does it benefit him to make up bullshit like this?>normalize relationsBest Korea wants nothing to do with South Korea any longer. They gave up.
>>543480440South Koreans are scum. Fucking christian FAGGOTS.
>>543480440who cares what gooks think, zelenski is still a kike though
Guarantee he tried to strong arm them into more aid in request for his silence and then when they balked he did this lol
>>543481095probably, i'd like to imagine the gooks faces
>>543480440This is why no one likes ukraine.The more interactions with them you have the more you see them.trying to screw you over with every opportunity they have.As soon as the war is over they will be left alone to rot as a failed state.
>>543481179I don't want to imagine gook faces.Wurst K*reans are animals.
>>543481788>As soon as the war is overYeah 'bout that
>>543480440That's the jew in him. All jews are like this until everything emplodes then half of them die and they cry again.
Niggers Niggers Niggers
>>543480440>Doesn't say thank you>Doesn't say sorrytruly niggers
>>543482103*jew
>>543480580Zlodimyr Abloobloo
>>543481788>>543481095You both should read the article lol, Ukraine requested the secrecy because they didn't want to fuck up a troop trade with Russia. SK doesn't need the secrecy, they take NK defectors all the time. SK is only mad that the NDA they signed got broken and that it's poor form, not that it's causing any diplomatic issues for them.
>>543482281I don't see how that's any better. Zelensky blew up his own agreement for shits and giggles? He still left the sorks holding 2 pow's at a time they're trying to wind down tensions with the norks; probably after they'd already denied having them like they agreed to in the original deal. For what purpose?
>>543480440
>>543482893SK was never worried about it effecting tensions with NK, that's how it's better. Ukraine made it's deal and didn't need the secrecy anymore. The only dispute here is one of paper negotiation. It's pretty clearly not as bad as the situation you thought it was.
>>543482281You apparently didn't read it. >South Korea says it agreed, citing the safety of the two men and their families as well as diplomatic and security considerations.You also ignored the part about Ukraine now denying there was ever an agreement.
>>543480440>Norks captured in Ukraine request asylum in South KoreaSays who faggot?
>>543482281I did read the article, but as with any Western article concerning Ukraine, I take the contents with a grain of salt.
>>543480719You queers will drag your 60 IQ takes on religion into everything
>>543480440whites do not care about endangering any asian lives, why no asians, spics, or jeets would should ever agree to fight for them
>whole world is slowly learning the true face of banderiteskekwatch the war end with the banderites siding with HIVans in a reverse uno move.
>>543483263I don't doubt it.Slavs are know to be backstabbersAfter this shit ends ( hopefully soon ), the kike from Kiev will run to Israel.
>>543483088I read the article. The two countries made a deal to handle it quietly with SK expressing concerns for the safety of the soldier's families and diplomatic/security concerns with how NK reacts to surrendering troops. Zelensky was concerned because it meant he was giving up 2 pows without any attempt at getting Ukie pows. Then he blows it up at the UN and his advisor calls the SK president a liar over facebook for saying they broke the agreement. For what possible purpose? To brag about 2 pows in a war with over a million casualties on Russia's side alone? And it may not be as big as you think othets are claiming but it certainly strains the relationship between a country that needs all the weapons it can get and one of the world's top 10 weapons manufacturers.
>>543483567Ok faggotUkraine is finishedAll they have left is terrorost tactics.It will be over by winter
>>543483567>Then he blows it up at the UN and his advisor calls the SK president a liar over facebook for saying they broke the agreement. For what possible purpose?This is precisely the sort of behaviour you'd expect from jumped up village thugs suddenly thrust onto the world stage.
>>543480702>but how does it benefit him to make up bullshit like this?“Look how much we're winning since we captured the North Koreans”But honestly I have my doubts about South Korea's involvement in this. In recent years they've been trying to avoid all these defectors and asylum seekers for a whole bunch of reasons>Best Korea wants nothing to do with South Korea any longer. They gave up.The idea of reunification has now completely died down, but the desire for lasting peace on both sides is stronger than ever.>>543483567He's obviously grasping at straws, he needs even the smallest victory. After that “40-day campaign to force Russia to surrender” he fell into complete desperation mode because of the constant bombings, political tensions within the country, and being completely unprepared for winter
gooks got kol nidre'd
>>543480702we take things at face value here, lurk more faggot
>>543480440Ukraine benefits if this becomes WWIII. Zelonky Donky generally lacks the capacity to spark WWIII... Europe wants out of it, mostly. Anything that pits North Korea against South (or vice versa) might do the trick though. If North Korean shells fall on Seoul, they can't be shot at Ukraine.
>>543482281why was there an NDA in the first place? you're missing the point.
>>543480440There could be a strategic reason for this. Maybe North Korean soldiers would be more willing to surrender, if they see that seeking asylum afterwards is on the table. But this is just speculation.
ukraine has gone too far
>>543485073It will do the opposite. Originally the plan was just to keep it quiet so NK will maybe assume the soldiers are KIA and died gloriously for Dear Leader. Now it's known they defected and their families' lives are forfeit. Even if they're not killed/gulag'd, they now carry the stigma of having a family member who betrayed the state.
>>543485956Do they even know what soldiers defected? If they don't know who it is, then how can their families be punished? Somehow I don't think Zelensky got up on the podium and read out their names and surnames. I think this has more to do with South Korea being angry that outing they are willing to accept war defectors puts another diplomatic strain on their relationship with North Korea and may incentivize more defections, which would put them in a situation of adopting a policy of accepting them, which would straining that relationship even further, or denying them, which looks bad from the humanitarian point of view.
>>543485073the strategic reason is their monkey brains are only capable of demanding alms and gloatingim against russia but still wont lie to myself
>>543486438Why shouldn't they ask for arms? They are a country fighting a defensive existential war. They need all the assistance they can get. The Ukrainian regime would betray the interests of its people, if it stopped asking for assistance. Don't confuse your getting annoyed at their asks for them doing something improper. This is geopolitics, not a frat party. The interest of the countries isn't to not ruin the vibe.
>>543480440>Zelenszkiyiyyiy bragsa jew being a jew and jewingim shocked and surprised
>>543486747>Why shouldn't they ask for arms?alms>The Ukrainian regime would betray the interests of its people, if it stopped asking for assistance.Explain how the Ukrainian regime protects the interests of its citizens by forcibly sending them to fight for territories that do not agree with the country's policies and have attempted to secede.
>>543486747alms you monkey
>>543480440The norks should have been executed instead of sending them there
>>543487034>>543487048>almsSame shit. They need resources to fight a defensive war. It doesn't change my argument in the slightest. It's the duty of the Ukrainian government to its people. Again, don't confuse you getting annoyed at their ask for them doing something improper.>>543487034>Explain how the Ukrainian regime protects the interests of its citizens by forcibly sending them to fight for territories that do not agree with the country's policies and have attempted to secede.The territory of a country belongs to all the people of a country, not just the people who live in that region. You have no right to secede your home from the country it is in. This is a policy of every single country on earth. Saying that Ukraine is uniquely not allowed to protect its territorial integrity is special pleading. But that only applies to the situation prior to Russia's invasion of Ukraine when it was only fighting against Russia-sponsored separatists. Now that a foreign terrorist state is invading Ukraine, they have a duty to protect the land and its citizens, as that's one of the primary functions of any government. It's also part of the social contract of every single country on earth, that if you're a man and your country is invaded, you're enslaved by the state to protect your country. The evolutionary reason for this is that if your country doesn't have that policy, your country will simply be conquered. To claim that Ukraine is uniquely evil for having a draft policy in a defensive war is again, special pleading.
>>543480440Fuck them, there was no such agreement.
>>543486438>im against russia but still wont lie to myselfMe too. I always find it strange that people have such a hard time with me hating both sides. If/when these shitheads need to be curbstomped, do you guys want Konigsberg? Never should have let them have an enclave in Europe proper.
>>543488303>You have no right to secede your home from the country it is in.I wouldn't go that far. I see it as little different than divorce. The limits are not unlike those for divorce, in my country we have something called "alienation of affection"... if your wife divorces you, tough luck. But if some asshole seduces her and ruins your marriage, he's in trouble for it. Not unlike what Russia's been doing.
>>543480440jews dancing at dead goyim in nork
>>543480440Cokehead Zelensky never misses a chance to prove to show what a piece of shit he is.
>>543480580Jewish pedolensky
>>543480440Wow it’s almost as if he’s a dirty vile subhuman kike
>>543488844I don't understand your explanation. You need to dumb it down for me. Also, I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to secede your US home from the US. You fought a civil war against the south because they wanted to secede. Your government's policy on dealing with secession attempts is the exact same as Ukraine's and every single other country's on Earth.
>>543480580Hohol Independskiy
>>543489052>Also, I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to secede your US home from the US.Yeh, we did have that thing awhile back. But no one's been happy with the outcome... "we stayed together for the kids" means that the North and the South have been tormenting each other for the last 160 years, we'd have been happier apart.>You need to dumb it down for me.If your wife (or husband) divorces you in most US states, and you can prove that this was primarily due to some other man (or woman) interfering in your marriage in a court of law, they are on the hook for damages. Which can be extensive. Even more so if the two of you had children (who are also affected by the divorce). The legal term for this wrong that was committed is called "alienation of affection". Legal to divorce, but not tolerated for a third party to come in and cause the divorce or set it in motion. I think secession is the same in this way... if Luhansk truly wanted to secede on its own, no big deal. If Russia instigates it, that can't be tolerated.
Korea South seems not to realize they already drew a side for World War three.
>>543489420>Korea South seems not to realizeAnyone who didn't know which side they were on back in the 1960s was mentally retarded. They didn't just draw this one now. Maybe they didn't realize how close WW3 was, though. Could say that about all of us.
>>543480719Koreans on both sides of the DMZ are godless people
>>543489280>Yeh, we did have that thing awhile back. But no one's been happy with the outcome... "we stayed together for the kids" means that the North and the South have been tormenting each other for the last 160 years, we'd have been happier apart.We're not really talking about whether you're happy with the state of your country, we're talking about the government policy in the abstract. Ukraine's policy is the exact same as every other nations. There's also an evolutionary reason for this policy. If anybody could just declare a piece of land to be independent, your country would cease to exist. And your divided archipelago of new micro nations would get conquered by a foreign united nation state. So this standard is not evolutionary feasible, if the function of your government is primarily to ensure the rights of its citizens. >If your wife (or husband) divorces you in most US states, and you can prove that this was primarily due to some other man (or woman) interfering in your marriage in a court of law, they are on the hook for damages.There's a point at which a divorce analogy breaks down. You don't have a right to stay married to a person. You have the right to the land within your nations borders along with all the other citizens.>if Luhansk truly wanted to secede on its own, no big dealIt is a big deal. It was obviously strongly supported by Russia, but even if it wasn't, this is not a workable standard for a nation state to survive evolutionary speaking. Which is why not a single country in the world has this policy.
>>543486273Espionage and intelligence-sharing exist.
>>543488303neither your cope changes my argumentyou are only good at asking for alms and gloatingright now you are gloatingotherwise you are beggingand after you make success begging you dont give a shit about dumb shit you said while you were begging
>>543480440The fuck is wrong with him?
>>543489706>If anybody could just declare a piece of land to be independent, your country would cease to exist.Well, not sure how well known this is... but my country only exists because someone did exactly that. It's written into our foundational documents. I concede that we haven't always been true to those principles, but that was before I was born and I'm already on the record as not agreeing with that.>There's a point at which a divorce analogy breaks down. You don't have a right to stay married to a person. And my government doesn't have a right to govern me without my continued consent.>It was obviously strongly supported by Russia,And for that reason only is the secession invalid. It wasn't the people of Luhansk saying so, it was whatever sockpuppets Putin could scrabble together.
>>543480580Voldemort Z-elenaKiev
>>543480580Zlonsky
>>543483088Its made Zelenski look completely untrustable with secrets as he violated an NDA.Why would any country trust that kike ang more?
>>543480580Badnygyr Sellingskyyyv
>>543489808>neither your cope changes my argumentYou didn't even make an argument. You just expressed being annoyed that Ukraine asks for resources and "gloats", whatever that means. And okay, you're annoyed. I agree that you're annoyed. I'm not challenging that you feel annoyed. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't confuse your feeling of being annoyed with the Ukrainian government doing something improper. I explained why the Ukrainian government is doing what it's doing and why it has that duty to its people. That's all. We don't even disagree, unless you disagree that a country fighting an existential defensive war should be asking for whatever assistance it can get, but if that's your view, then make that argument.
>>543486747I understand how continuing the war is in the interest of the oligarchs getting rich off stealing European gibs, but how is it in the interest of the people, considering the inevitable outcome?
>>543480440>when squids ask why he broke their agreement, he literally laughs, denies agreeing to anything and tells them to fuck offBased
>>543489280>if Luhansk truly wanted to secede on its own, no big deal. If Russia instigates it, that can't be tolerated.I think you're using the right metaphor, but applying it to something that didn't happen. Something very obvious happened to prompt secession in the Donbass, and it wasn't Russian interference.
>>543489052Chatgpt faggot detected
>>543488303Ukraine had the opportunity to reach an agreement without compromising the integrity of the country. Russia was unwilling to incorporate Ukrainian regions into its territory right up until the very end. Crimea had been trying to join us since the 90s and the Kremlin was willing to hand over the Donbas entirely if Ukraine agreed to end the war. But they kept pushing their agenda and continued the war. There were literally several agreements with Ukraine regarding the end of hostilities but Ukraine simply continued the war. It's all well documented.
>>543480440>squidswhat my drunktard illiterate inmate el president is dunking on zelenski? Kek.
>>543489903>Well, not sure how well known this is... but my country only exists because someone did exactly that. It's written into our foundational documents. I concede that we haven't always been true to those principles, but that was before I was born and I'm already on the record as not agreeing with that.See, but that's a different question. Our discussion isn't on whether a nation state that arose by breaking away from another state has the right to exist. I agree that it does. We're discussing whether it should be government policy to not allow it. If you fight a war to secede and you win, then it is what it is. That original state has the duty to fight that war in the first place, as its duty is to protect the rights of its citizens, which is contingent on maintaining territorial integrity. But if it fails, then it is what it is. Certain things cannot be overcome and they become the new status quo.>And my government doesn't have a right to govern me without my continued consent.Correct, which is why you are allowed to leave your country for another country, if you no longer wish to be a US citizen. But you don't have the right to take the land of your country with you. It belongs to the state and having the policy of maintaining it is essential for the continued existence of that state.>And for that reason only is the secession invalid. It wasn't the people of Luhansk saying so, it was whatever sockpuppets Putin could scrabble together.I disagree. Even if a provoking country didn't exist, a region of a nation has no right to secede from that nation. But we're circling the drain at this point and repeating the same points. I'll let you have the last word.
>>543480440Is nobody going to comment on how the situation is so bad in this war that only TWO North Koreans managed to survive the battlefield and get captured instead of being eviscerated by Ukrainian forces? How in the fuck does that happen? Even the US forces managed to capture more Japanese soldiers on Iwo Jima.
>>543490738I forgot to mention that Crimea's separation from Ukraine is not a problem for Ukraine's integrity since Crimea is an autonomous republic and has every right to independence or to join Russia. As I said, they tried this back in the 90s, but at the time our government was against it because we had enough problems of our own.
>>543490295The primary purpose of a state is to protect the rights of its citizens. Maintaining territorial integrity is vital to do that, as a nation state cannot continue to exist without maintaining its territorial integrity. It would break apart into an archipelago of smaller states, which would be conquered by another bigger state that would impose its will on the people. It's not evolutionary feasible for any state to have the policy of letting whatever group of its citizens break away parts of its territory, which is why not a single country on earth has that policy. Canada has that same policy on dealing with secession attempts too, it's just that it's not in a historical period where that principle is put to the test the way Ukraine is.
>>543491168Try saying it without NAFO Troon-gpt you brown troll farm monkey
>>543491168Using your logic, we have every right to attempt to restore the borders of the Soviet Union as its rightful successor. Which is just as ridiculous as Ukraine demanding its 91 borders if you didn't get that.
>>543491168Vatniks will pretend to not understand this and feign ignorance about why they fought two wars in Chechnya
>>543490929Nork soldiers are trained to pin a grenade against their neck to avoid capture, and that's not just some propaganda shit, they'll kill 10 of your family members if you allow yourself to get picked up in combat. The north Korean expeditions nary troops are also highly selected for ideological adherence and the fuckers literally have embedded commissarat NCOs in units like the fucking kommisars in WW2, reading them il sung bed time stories and shit
>>543490929Because 25,000 ukrainians got slaughtered on the Kursk suicide mission.Out of 12,000 N Korean troops only 102 were killed.
>>543491311Ok faggot shill.Its like you kikes will just say anything
>>543480440HOLY FUCKING BASED PSYCHOPATH
>>543490267my emotions have nothing to do with the fact ukrainian gov doesnt have strategy beyond asking for alms and gloatingyou explained that asking for alms makes sense for them but never argued that they have any strategy beyond that effectively conceding the argument
>>543480580Ghist of kyivskyy
>>543491364You do have a source on these numbers, right? I feel like goreleaf posted videos showing more than 102 norks getting droned.
>>543480440In Zelensky's defense:Keeping a promise causes unbearable physical pain in a jew.
>>543490738>Ukraine had the opportunity to reach an agreement without compromising the integrity of the country.It didn't. A group of people wanted to secede territory from the state. The state cannot let them. This is irreconcilable, which is why there was a war. But the situation has transformed and now it's Russia invading Ukraine, so this analysis of whether a region has the right to secede is not even relevant to the status quo. Now it's about fighting a defensive war, which anybody intuitively knows is morally just, which is why Kremlin needs its spin doctors to confuse western populations so that they stop supporting Ukraine and make Russia's invasion easier.>Crimea had been trying to join us since the 90s and the Kremlin was willing to hand over the Donbas entirely if Ukraine agreed to end the war.Even supposing the first part of that sentence is true, which I do not grant, Russia has zero claim to territory of another country. None. That demand is completely unjustified and it's the duty of Ukraine to its people to maintain territorial integrity, as the continued existence of the state is contingent on having that policy. That's the policy of every single country on Earth and you're engaging in special pleading by claiming the Ukraine had a unique obligation to not uphold it.
>>543491311you've watched way too many fucking movies retard
>>543491508There was a televised state funeral. Look it up.
>>543486273>what is roll callmy nigga
>>543491168>The primary purpose of a state is to protect the rights of its citizens.Debatable.You are appealing to an idealistic view of rights and morality, whereas in reality the indivisibility of countries, especially European ones as history shows, is not at all guaranteed. Also I would point out that it is particularly egregious for the same parties that established the Kosovo Precedent and called for the balkanization of Russia are now arguing for the inviolability of borders. Ideals mean nothing when they are only invoked when convenient.>Canada has that same policy on dealing with secession attempts tooI happen to be from Québec so I will thank you not to speak of things you do not understand.
>>543490929I don't think North Korean troops saw much action.From what I've heard they were used in defensive roles near Kursk so the Russians who were stationed there before could be send to the front instead.This might be part of the deal with North Korea, or the Russians might not trust them enough.
>>543491308No. The Soviet Union had a duty to try to hold onto its territories, but it failed, so there being a bunch of new states became the status quo. So now it is what it is. If Ukraine cannot militarily hold onto its territory now and the war ends with it losing parts of it, then it also will become the new status quo. Just because the state has the duty to fight for its land doesn't mean that it will always succeed. In fact the question of whether a state that formed by breaking away from another state has the right to exist is a different question than whether the original state has the duty to not let it get to that point. I both agree that a state has the duty to protect its territorial integrity and that a breakaway state that wins its secession war has the right to exist.
>>543491578Tell your computer Ukraine was only a nation for 25 years brown faggot shill. It was created with a vote so it can be disbanded with a vote.Nobody cares about you ai slop statements.Globohomo fears the population that stands up to government corruption.(And Poroshenko was as crooked as they come)
>>543480440Koreans will get their dose of hoholism and shut upThey cant do anything anyway, ukraine is a temporary formation, they dont care about tomorrow or long term relationsThey may as well strike some korean ships as additional punishment for not giving all patriot missiles stockpiles
>>543480440>Norks captured in Ukraine request asylum in South KoreaAs I recall, back when those two NK cockroaches were captured, he clearly specified the price in weaponry for handing them over. I’m going to guess that, as usual, the Asians didn't hold up their end of the bargain.
>>543491919This.I saw a documentary on RT. The Norks wanted to zerg rush but Russian troops wouldnt let them. They were trained in Russian tactics to send small recon squards to locate the enemy then call in air strikes.
>>543489648>There are no known official statistics of religions in North Korea. According to a 2020 study published by the Centre for the Study of World Christianity, 73% of the population are irreligious (58% agnostic, 15% atheist), 13% practice Chondoism, 12% practice Korean shamanism, 1.5% are Buddhist, and less than 0.5% practice another religion such as Christianity, Islam, or Chinese folk religion.[1] >12% practice Korean shamanismImagine these girls dropping their uniform to start dancing naked around a campfire.
>>543490738Problem with any deal with Russians is they cannot be trusted.You agree on some terms and the very next day they demand something else.Russians and Jews are exactly the same in that regard.
>>543491467Strategy with respect to international relations? What strategy are you even talking about? It has more sophisticated strategies regarding its military operations. The goal is to prioritize the state's survival, as its fighting an existential war. Which in terms or international relations primarily involves asking for resources. What's so ill-advised about that? Let me ask you this: do you think they shouldn't be asking for resources? Or maybe that there's something else with respect to international relations that you think they should be doing that they aren't doing right now?
>>543492158"Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian has always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on an agreement signed by you, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian is to play fair, or do not play."Otto von Bismarckbtw, that man created german empire, i would not consider him stupid , definitely he is at least 10 times more clever than any modern european politician
>>543491869There's plenty of soldiers who die or get captured. Many bodies of the ones who die are never recovered, because they get fucked up beyond recognition, get lost on the battlefield, or get straight up vaporized. It's not possible to precisely tell who got captured and who died.
>>543491578>It didn't. A group of people wanted to secede territory from the state. The state cannot let them. This is irreconcilable, which is why there was a war.That was true at the start of the conflict but by 2022 it had become nothing more than senseless violence. Russia agreed not to support the separatist movement in Ukraine in exchange for a ceasefire, by that point the separatists were very few in number, but Ukraine still continued to bomb its own citizens>That demand is completely unjustified and it's the duty of Ukraine to its people to maintain territorial integrity, as the continued existence of the state is contingent on having that policyCrimea was outside Ukrainian politics, it was an autonomous republic.>>543491955Ukraine lost control of these territories back in 2014. Basically every single citizen of these territories traded their Ukrainian citizenship for Russian citizenship, the existing “Ukrainian” government in Crimea actually helped us with the referendum and integration into Russia.As I said, it’s just as foolish for Ukraine to demand the 1991 borders as it is for us to demand the borders of the Soviet Union.>>543492158But the thing is Ukraine has violated these agreements repeatedly and it’s all been documented by a third-party observer
>>543492236>Strategy with respect to international relations? What strategy are you even talking about?you are the one who started talking about strategy in your very spots itt you retarded algorithmtheir strategy is asking for alms and gloatingthats itonce they started gloating after getting what they wanted they said things they were not supposed tothats itthere was no strategy behind it just monkey brainall you can do is fantisize about hidden strategy because you are low iq
>>543491839You mean North Korean television? Brother, you don't really suck on communist teat that vigorously, do you?>>543491919Russia was on the defensive when Ukraine invaded Russian territory. There are interviews of Ukrainian soldiers talking about their combat encounters with North Koreans.
>>543480580ZOG puppet
>>543492360https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belovezha_Accords
>>543492428Fuck off nafo troonWhy would N Korea lie about thier losses?
>>543491872>You are appealing to an idealistic view of rights and moralityThe state has obligations. These obligations are essential for those states to continue to exist. Just because sometimes a state cannot fulfill its obligation doesn't mean that it doesn't have that obligation in the first place. It's a non sequitur.>I happen to be from Québec so I will thank you not to speak of things you do not understand.Apparently I know more about your country than you do, because I can guarantee you the following outcomes: either Québec has to fight a war for independence, forget about independence, or it is allowed to secede and in the future Canada will either no longer be a country or renege on that policy, because letting states break away willy-nilly is not evolutionarily sustainable.
>>543492360I'd also like to add that it's just strange to talk about Ukraine's territorial integrity when, from the very beginning, it was incomplete because of the Transnistria issue. Or the Amber Mafia, which literally still rules entire regions of the country. Isn't that what they call failed state?
>>543480440>Nations holding prisoners of war must reveal their fate and whereabouts under international humanitarian law.Why the fuck should he commit war crimes just because Kim Jong Un might murder his own slaves?
>>543491990>Tell your computer Ukraine was only a nation for 25 yearsThat's not relevant to anything. There's no magical age barrier at which a state gains its legitimacy. Once it can militarily ensure independence, it's a new state.>It was created with a vote so it can be disbanded with a vote.It was created because the state it used to be a part of became a failed state that was unable to follow its duties and to protect its land. But Ukraine is not a failed state as evidenced by it being capable of prosecuting a war to protect its borders. USSR failing to meet its obligations to its people doesn't suddenly mean that that obligation for other states disappears. It's a non sequitur.
>>543492764>Apparently I know more about your country than you doYou should probably look up how Canada got its independence. Maybe look up some Polish history while you're at it.>letting states break away willy-nilly is not evolutionarily sustainable.And yet it happens constantly, especially in Europe
>>543480440Fake rage. Only Sourks know why they are doing it. Are they really this afraid of Norks? Where else would have the two Nork Pows have gone? Sourks don't even support Ukraine militarily while selling fuel to Russia. I'm starting to think Sourks are all trannies. >>543483567They haven't sold weapons to Ukraine despite repeated requests. Ukraine got some Sourk mines via Poland if I recall, but not even that directly from the Korean trannies.
>>543492697Because it's embarrassing their super soldiers got blown up like cardboard mullahs.
>>543480580Volodymyr Gook-killer
>>543492360>That was true at the start of the conflict but by 2022 it had become nothing more than senseless violence.It was a continued war. There's no magical age barrier for prosecuting a secession war after which the part that attempts to secede is allowed to secede. They have to win that war. They haven't, so the war continued. And now it's not a secession war, it's a war against Russia. So again, this analysis is not even relevant to the status quo.>Russia agreed not to support the separatist movement in Ukraine in exchange for a ceasefiree,The duty of the Ukrainian state is to hold onto those territories. If the cease fire doesn't advance that goal or hinders it, there's no reason to accept it. In fact if it hinders it, the state agreeing to it fails its duty to its people.>by that point the separatists were very few in numberIt doesn't matter how many separatists there were. They had enough forces to continue waging the war, so the war was continued to be waged.>but Ukraine still continued to bomb its own citizensIt's a duty of a state to enact violence against its own citizens if those citizens break the social contract, as its what's necessary to protect the rights of the citizens who obey the social contract. If you commit a crime, the state has the duty to kidnap you and puts you in prison. If you do something particularly heinous, the sate will execute you. If you attempt to secede from the country, the state will fight you with its military, which includes dropping bombs.>Ukraine lost control of these territories back in 2014.It's true, that Russia stole that land from Ukraine in 2014 when it took advantage of the political turmoil within the country to enact its imperialist ambitions. Unfortunately for Russia, by invading Ukraine they made Crimea a part of the war zone, so now its up for grabs for whoever achieves military supremacy in the region. What a blunder.
>>543480580Vlad the zigger and gook Impaler.
>>543492365So are you saying that it makes no sense for them to "ask for alms"? That it's monkey brain nonsense and not strategy? What should they be doing instead? For now it looks like you don't know, which means you have no ground to stand on when it comes to criticizing their approach.
>>543492697Why would North Korea NOT lie about losses? They lie to their citizens all of the time and withhold all sorts of information we take for granted. You wouldn't appreciate this because you like rooting for "the bad guys", but these niggas would kill you for smuggling in an mp3 player with unapproved music.
>>543495792Fuck off NAFO troon. Meanwhile its Zelensky who cant tell the truth to save his life.>only 50,000 ukrainians have been killed since 2022!Kim is way more honest, stupid faggot
>>543480440NORK XISTERS WHY ARE WE DEFECTING TO THE SOUTH DONT WE LOVE DEAR DICTATOR
>>543492984Eat shit nafo troon chat gpt faggot.25 years of statehood is a big deal.Russia MADE them a nationRussia can unmake themThe separatists had no idea how badly Kiev was going to rob them blind in taxes and give them nothing in return.People in Donbas were living in squalor while all you kikes in Kiev were driving Range Rovers and partying at the disco every night
>>543496202What a great response! You sure convinced me! As a white man, it is now my duty to lick buckethead boots and worship chinkcels!
>>543480440>Norks captured in Ukraine request asylum in South KoreaI don't think they did, mate.
>>543496429So you believe Zelensky when he said he only lost 50,000 men?
>when squids ask why he broke their agreement, he literally laughs, denies agreeing to anything and tells them to fuck offmust…not…gigaquote…
>>543489648>>543483149one side is not circumcised the other side had achieved a 90 percent rate of circumcision
>>543496674No, there is obviously evidence that more Ukrainians have died. Why do you assume I would believe one corrupt government but not the other?
>>543496729What proof do you have N Korea is corrupt faggot shill?If 500 guys died that would just motivate them more to want to kill globohomo forces It makes zero sense for Kim to lie (because he is not a faggot like your kike masters in Kiev)
>itt retards worse than plebbitorsSouth Korea uses secrecy as a means to gain more defectors so Norks in Ukraine could surrender without the NK government knowing so. The more Norks that defect, the less ready their army will become since they can't tell the difference between awol and killed due to the fact they don't retrieve the bodies. Presenting them as detectors guarantees execution of their bloodlines as well as a reduction in surrenders with nirms using ukraine propaganda as proofs surrender is going to get families killed. Hohols are retarded, but this board is full of jew hating shabbos goyim.
>>543480639yeah i think what you think,. good thinking btw.
>>543480440>Sends PoWs, who were fighting under the russian flag, to a prison in a third country which is not officially involved in the conflictIsnt that a war crime?
>>543497008So Best Koreans are all yearning for freedom to be faggot puppets of your kike masters?
>>543491919Norks fought in Kursk, but not inside Ukraine. If they fought inside Ukraine, NK would then officially become a belligerent in Russia's illegal war. Kursk is the only place where Russia has killed Ukrainians legally, although it's still a grey area since the Kursk invasion wouldn't have happened without the invasion of Ukraine.Ukraine still holds some square kilometers in Kursk, btw. Russians got tired of their manpower losses when they couldn't dislodge them so they just left them there. It's fine as long as it's not trumpeted in Russian media to embarrass the dedushka in charge.>>543497135How is it a war crime to send POWs where they want to go? Most Norks blew themselves up with a grenade when they were close to being captured because they were on orders not to allow themselves to be taken alive. If I recall, one of the two captured Norks tried to kill himself before capture but it didn't work.
>>543497450Everyword you said is a lie faggot shill.Who said they wanted to go to S Korea?>well a jew told me !
>>543480440Who even cares. SK is irrelevant in this conflict anyways.
>>543496969>what proof do you have that a communist shithole is corruptHoly motherfucker dude, could you suck nork weewee any harder?
>>543498108You claim N Korea is corrupt but you cant name a single case of corruption.Typical pathetic nafo troon.
>>543498239>you can't name corruption, therefore it never happens!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illicit_activities_of_North_KoreaAll internationally illegal activities in North Korea are state-sponsored. You are expected to go through the entire list I have provided and disprove every aspect. If you cannot do so, I accept your concession
>>543480440ukraine is the shittiest country ever. at this point I'm not really sure whom I want dead more - ukraine or russians
>>543481938hopefully it's never over, so you cease to exist
>>543498379>internationally illegal activitiesFake and gay.Lets say its true.How is planned glownigger ops "corruption"?Do you need a dictionary faggot shill?Meanwhile Zeelensky is bombing people on 3 continents
>>543498618>you have no proof!>posts proof>The proof is fake and gay!Cool buddy, we know this is going nowhere because you want to worship a nation that would gleefully string you up like a white monkey and parade your corpse in it's streets.
>>543498761Let me help you nafo troon. Give us example of N Korean corruption(Well WIKI said they do bad stuffs)Stupid faggot>corruption /kə-rŭp′shən/nounDecay; rot.The product of corruption; putrid matter.The act of changing, or of being changed, for the worse; departure from what is pure, simple, or correct."a corruption of style; corruption in language"
>>543498869https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illicit_activities_of_North_KoreaYeah, I gave you plenty of examples. Wikipedia is a great aggregator of information. You have the ability to read, but not the interest. There's a reason I am able to accurately assess corruption on both sides while you fail the same test.
>>543490929Two is the total who requested defecting to SK, not the total captured you actual retard.
>>543499203Ahh, so the Ukrainians captured even more North Koreans? Brutal.
>>543480440>making agreements with a jew>expecting the jew to honor it
>>543480440>Jew hears that some government will execute the families of two goyim if you announce who these two people are>Jew says their names and brags about it
>>543499405SOUKS SHOULD TELL THE WORLD HOW MUCH THE NORKS HATE THEIR FAT DICTATOR
>>543493868whatever im saying its not something a monkey like you could comprehend apparently
>>543480440Sounds completely not made up
>>543497345>kike this>kike thatNorks are more scared of food being gone or family getting shot for wrongthink than living under a heeb. Kikery is evil, but living in norkland is even worse.
>>543480440Ironically it doesn't matter since SK cannot even make it to Ukraine because its landlocked by NK even by sea also the president of SK has terrible approval ratings because he did thatPresident Lee's Approval Rating at 37.9%Source : SBS News Original link : https://news.sbs.co.kr/english/article.do?news_id=N1008772179&plink=COPYPASTE&cooper=SBSNEWSENDhttps://news.sbs.co.kr/english/article.do?news_id=N1008772179
>>543480440big z is so fucking retarded
>>543499000Illicit activities is not corruption by any definition.You will never be a woman you stupid faggot
>>543499975Oh look its a little faggot helper.Can you show us in the doll where best Korea touched you?They aint done shit to me.>we have to bomb your women and children because you dont allow faggot paradesThe underlying factor in all NATO military ops
>sell POWs to another country>brag about itIsn't this a war crime? Sure they can say the guys defected, but that's awfully hard to prove, which I think is the point.South Korea bought North Koreans from Zelensky.
>>543497450Pfffffft
