Everyone thought such things would become standard in the future, for example in video games from the 1990s. What's the hold up?
>>543481563Because its a stupid idea only designers would come up with.
>>543481563They do, Anon, they do, they just don't show them to you. You're in the "Ratchet" stage of Cyberpunk. It's that delicate part of the process where everyone hided their tech to look like average everyday objects to avoid casting pearls before swine.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ckq9NvbSPBg
>>543481734Classic maginot debacle, build the greatest fortification in Europe, only for someone to walk around it like a boss
>>543481563>Why has no country developed AI auto-turret shotguns for shooting down drones?what are you talking about?we had ai turrets in the 80s.
>>543482050I mean for personnel defense against FPV drones, not CIWS protection for capital ships and bases
>>543481563why dont they make like a 2ft x 2ft net with fishing anchors around the edge, and cram the nets into a shotgun shell, and then create a flare gun style plastic launcher thats super cheap to make so they can give one to every soldier with a couple rounds, and you only shoot a drone when its with in range chasing you so the netting gets caught around the propeller blades and it cant fly any more and falls to the ground.
>>543482342Because they just put nets around stuff so drones can't hit it. Cheaper and can't miss.
>>543482436but im talking about personal defense for individual guys out in the field getting chased by a drone not someone sitting around a tank or something.
>>543481563https://9mothers.com/edda
>>543482515Letting the individual guy die is cheaper. Also, carry two long guns at the same time and let me know how much fun it is.
>>543481563some tanks have these now
>>543482301>>543481563You’re an idiot
>>543482535>https://9mothers.com/edda>"The best public estimate is low six figures per Edda system—roughly $100k–$200k per turret/system, depending on configuration and production volume.>"9 Mothers’ CEO described Edda as a “low-six-figure” system. >"9 Mothers has reportedly sold $1.6M of systems to the U.S. Department of War, across multiple systems, but the number of units and contract configuration aren't publicSo the Pentagon likely has less than 16 of them?
>>543482643thats why i said create a plastic flare gun style cheap launcher like pic related...you just keep it holstered. obviously this doesnt matter if your mind set is its cheaper to let a guy die, but im coming from a mind set of life is precious
>>543482342>>543482515You’re a very, VERY smart and special boy. Guess what kiddo? The president told me that he thinks you’re very special. That’s right. We love you, kiddo.
>>543482342Ethnic replacement in Russia and eastern Europe is behind the schedule so they needed a depopulation war. Giving the individual goys a means of survival goes against the plan
>>543482515Because the reality is brutal.Guys that want to carry shotguns around because of drones (and mostly do not want to) are issued auto shotguns loaded with birdshot because realistic they have 3 or 4 seconds to unload their shotgun at the drone coming in hopes of it stopping.Sometimes they do everything right, hit their shots, and the drone doesn't stop.Why they don't carry buckshot? Because no one is hitting a single shot at a fast moving target heading towards you.The same thing happens with your idea of a net deploying shotgun shell.>Reduced range>It does not deploy reliable >If the drone twitches or does not fly in a straight line, you are going to miss.>You are dead before you cycle the next shell.
>>543481563https://youtube.com/shorts/Ckq9NvbSPBg?is=chAjmQXCeGtp3AQJ
Sex toys and especially dolls are unironically futuristic now but the market hasn't really become insane yet and most options are pretty vanilla.
>>543482924people have made them, even the air force tested them maybe its not effective enough or somthing or like you said they woud rather let grunts die in the meat grinder, molech needs souls after allhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n23Xpb3X3xAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF2tnFC_q8A
>>543482958lmfao do i get a star on my chart?
>>543481563Not relevant until they figure out remote reloading.
>>543483089they can give them a smith and wesson "Governor" revolver that can shoot shotgun shells. bird shot would probably be enough at close range to disable a drone you dont even need net shells.
The military is full of people going nothing so there's little need for fully automated gun systems.
>>543483262At close enough range for that to be effective, if the bomb on the drone explodes you're probably dead anyway. Remember that when you 'disable' the drone its still got all of the momentum of flying right at you. Shatter all of its rotors to splinters and inertia still means that the rest of it is flying at you at 60MPH and if it ever comes within 10 ft of you you're dead.
>>543483262It does not. A single round of birdshot is not stopping a drone. The range on that thing is probably lower as it delivery less stopping power even if the shells are the same, the barrel is too short, meaning the it will scatter more than a long barreled shotgun. Lowe accuracy and less stopping power.I told you.You want to unload 10 shots in the spam of 4 seconds and pray to Jesus it works.How the fuck are you doing that with a revolver? I don't save gore, but there's a video of a guy doing everything right:>Plants his feet>Picks up his auto-shotgun>Unloads the damn thing, probably a mist of lead>The drone still hits himEven when you do everything right, nothing guarantees 100% it will work.
>>543481796Problem of putting enemies in a 3d space is that you can just run around them, 3d games still have a problem with this to this day.
The latest jev models would do this well enough
>>543483503>' the drone its still got all of the momentum of flying right at you.>>543483608yea makes sense, im not really /k/pilled it was just something ive wondered about from time to time. My bud described the "governor" to me as side arm for deer hunters in case while you are out in the woods a dove pops out in front of you or somthing and you want it.
>>543483936/k/ are all faggots.In a fagotry competition, /lgbt/ would lose to /k/.And you understand more about guns them they do if you hunt.
>>543481734The left would be viable if it never left space.
Autoturrets are illegal (in war). For reasons that should be obvious.
>>543481563south korea has had it for ages. Samsung actually makes them. but they are not mobile. they are fixed installations
>>543484194Illegal for shooting down drones?
>>543484458No, if the automatic device that chooses its targets and kills them without human intervention chooses only legitimate targets and not civilians animals or surrendering combatants then it's not illegal. It's a loophole.
>>543484458Nobody wants the mess of "the machine did a warcrime and gunned down a bunch of civilians without anyone giving the order to shoot" on their plate. It would be bad PR, bad for morale, open countries up to being censured internationally for a hardware malfunction, and its absolutely inevitable that it would happen once such tech is deployed to the field. AI targeting has simply never been good enough to trust it to shoot only the targets you want it to, and that was BEFORE AI meant "black box programs that frequently lie to you or ignore instructions".
>>543484993Funny enough, Ukraine happily dropped anti-personnel mines behind themselves on the retreat westward, and nobody gave a shit.It's weird what kind of collateral damage we accept and what kind we don't.Bombing a girls' school for instance. Or taking out water desalinization plants. Or, fuck, the shit Israel has done to Palestinians.But hooking up a gun to an auto-aim turret is 'a line too far'?I suspect when we finally get to all-out war again, those concerns will suddenly be set aside. Ever since that MacGyver episode with the auto-gun, I've feared these things. So like 1988 or something.Now that I've seen how fast computers can target, I'm even more terrified of them. But they'd be one hell of a useful tool to have on your side.Imagine in the apocalypse, having>Warning, auto-aim turrets beyond this pointOn a sign on your property line. Damn.
>>543484993it should be possible to distinguish between humans on the ground and drones in the air. For example mount it 2 meters above the ground and only have it capable of shooting horizontal or upwards, and not to target anything larger or slower than a drone
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>>543481563They have.They've been on Navy ships for 50 years.
>>543485319>Bombing a girls' school for instance. Or taking out water desalinization plants. Or, fuck, the shit Israel has done to Palestinians.We don't actually accept these things, its just that nobody else has the ability to punish the US for that, or Israel because the US acts as a shield for them. And internally to the US, the democrats currently have no levers to use against the republican administration and its not like MAGA is going to hold themselves accountable for their actions. If dems get control of congress after the midterms, I think you'll find that a lot of what you just described will be cited as reasons for the impeachment and removal of Hegseth at a minimum.
>>543481563Picrel, and:>AI-Powered Turret That Hunts Russian Missiles and Drones? Meet Sky Sentinel, Ukraine’s New Air Defense- https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/ai-powered-turret-that-hunts-russian-drones-meet-sky-sentinel-ukraines-new-air-defense-8589
>>543482515Metal Storm procurement is unkown? Never see that stuff used.IED protection was the focus before Ukraine. Grunts were getting E.M. thumpers to jam everything. We'll probably see a microwave squad defense before robotizing .50 cal MG's, which worked great manned by meat up until now. >>543482515 As a solo guy or squad in a field you need something like an AA-12 with D.U. shells and an autofiring scope that can't be fooled and hipfired with your own counter drone tracking awareness hud. This is supersoldier stuff? Defensive E.M. field working against even hardwired drones is probably the lighter weight solution.
>>543488775Too heavy for a truck bed.Too heavy for a bearcat roof.Would need to be on it's whole own car.
>>543482436Why aren't all solders walking around in mesh hamster balls?
>>543481563For mature empires this tech only works against them beyond a few niche items. Like the phalanx gun on destroyers. Anything smaller and it can be cheap enough and deployable enough to counter their own forces.Very small nations under threat of attack and insurgent groups are the primary players who would benefit from automated turrets that can be cheap enough to obtain for small to no logistic systems, and easily hid in zones of engagement. Deployed much like even more dangerous mines, these systems could also differentiate between those in specific uniforms and others, allowing them to be used freely among your own population or soldiers. A massive combat enhancement for any small force. The added ability to deploy them against drones cheaply and effectively using aimbots is an added boon.Major militaries don't have to really worry about such things as their forces already can be employed to do the same things without giving away the tech to those who they would usually be fighting. And drones, while devastating to soldiers and equipment, is a very area limited weapon platform in most cases when keeping it cheap. And dead soldiers and destroyed equipment is just part of the calculations when it comes to war, not a real issue so long as the losses are manageable vs your manufacturing and replacement training for disposable soldiers. Empires and large nations don't see humans as people, nor do they see military equipment as valuable so long as its lost on the field obtaining political gains.As such, an automated turret hidden in an urban environment can demolish even company sized elements of infantry, or counter government drone spam that is trying to both attack and overwatch the area of operations. Allowing even squad sized elements to counter battalion sized forces.So obviously few military's on earth want this tech to become common knowledge. Drones are damaging enough. Used in conjunction and even major powers are left crippled.
>>543481563Several companies are developing this right now you fucking tard. Also things like Goalkeepers and C-RAMs already exist.
>>543490562Very american mindset. Use a 40 million dollar machine that cannot be moved by a small squad to counter two hundred dollar drones. You lost that war before you began it. Op is clearly talking about something small enough to carry or deploy off a vehicle to its emplacement point.And yes, that tech has been around since kids started building them and passing around how to do it in the 2010's. Your pic is for static defensive emplacements against peer armies. It would be utterly useless against anything that isn't coming in on a plane or able to be weapons free against targets the size of a birds on your radar. And nobody can afford to let that thing fire at every bird that flies by, all day long for months or even years. So its dead by some guy with a temu drone duct taped to a grenade.You are clearly the tard.
>>543490970CRAMs already engage Iranian and Russian drones. And like I said, affordable tech is already being developed. Look in the mirror you contrarian faggot, your entire pointless rant only applies to yourself.
>>543491135>affordable tech is being developedIt was developed decades ago. Kids built the tech in their back yards and garages to use them in paintball games. They picked out which uniforms to target and were exactly to hit. Using video game aimbots connected to old for the time laptops and cracked phones hosting the emulated aimbots. They could hit reliably for over a hundred meters with arching paintballs against running targets.Yet you just claimed its 'being developed'. Whats the disconnect? And you are getting pissed because your vaunted empire is a fucking failure and a clown show of epic proportions. Its legacy systems got deployed, and all of them failed. While kids can design working platforms.I know far more about this than you. And nothing the west has is able to deploy that can actually work, much less work on a wide enough scale to be worthwhile. And for some reason you are claiming our evil empire of jewish loving child fuckers are competent and ready for insurgent/peer army warfare against drones deployed against them.And this entire year has showcased blatantly how utterly wrecked the west is against even larger and easier to detect and destroy drones. Yet you are arguing something deployed against individual soldiers is on the horizon? When the US has fled to jorden and abandoned all its bases any closer to iran, just because of drone spam bending them over like a jew does a toddler.
