muttmerica is dead
every country's bond market looks the exact same
>>543487693except china's
>>543487766you should move there
kek america has fallen
>>543487887I'm comfy where I am right now but I'm planning on selling my house and moving to asia in the near future (5-6 years), I'll have a bag full of cash and just have to find a girl in china that likes BWC which should be pretty easy
>>543487548American jews run the world. They’ll figure it out. Western countries account for purchasing 45%+ of their goods. If the US fails right now China fails too.
>>543488693>t-t-the jews will save meKEKYROO
>>543487548Clean up your own countries and stop relying on the USA
>>543487693our 10 year bonds are at 3%
>>543487548you're brown
>>543487693>every country with their bonds tied to jewsa because of the dollarIf anything it shows why they should ditch jewsa completely because jewsa is acting like a drowning nigger, trying to drag everything down just to get a single mouthful of air. Too bad water is already in the lungs tho.RIP in piss jewsa, it won't be pissed
>>543487548fucking crazy shitit was closer to 5.20 when i woke up (down from 5.25 when i last checked yesterday) so i figured things are cooling down a bit, now it's almost 5.30 alreadywe are so fucked it's not even funnyall thanks to the orange nigger
>>543488693The US is going through a financial reset that will annihilate a lot of people
>>543488890-t.
>>543488956Hopefully my credit card debt gets reset
>>543488915(You) are dragging us down its why we need to just annex you freeloaders. You will learn respect. Soon. Very soon.
>>543488883They are at 3.6% already. How much of your debt was borrowed when they were negative 0.7%? Projections are saying that your debt payments will triple in 2030 compared to now and you already spend 6% of budget on coupon payments.
>>543487548This is good now wheeling and dealing fat cats will fuck off from real estate and prices will come down to realiy
>>543489090we are autistic about debt so I dont expect the bond market to fuck us anytime soonwhat really fucks the burgers, and what does not apply to germany, is their complete lack of even trying to balance the budget, let alone reduce debt obligations
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>>543487766>chinas numbers being real>>543487693The previous low interest rates were allowed because of pensions using those bonds. They needed stable monthly payments not long term interest rates. As pensions have faded so does the rate need to rise as now its just an investment.
>>543487548I make six figures but I have no desire to get married, reproduce or buy a home. I grew up poor and now even with my income it doesn't feel better. The only people I see having a good time are those with rich parents who can support them. If you're poor and have kids, you're basically sentencing them to a life of pure misery and servitude. America is not a place to build yourself up for nothing, you're either born rich or end up as a slave.
>>543489026>>543489168you're both brown wogs
>>543489306bessent is pulling every trick in the book lmfao you can't complain about china manipulating bonds when your government is openly doing everything they can to try and manipulate theirs
>>543489346shalom
>>543489306>chinas numbers being realHow would China fake it's bond interest traded in the open market lmao.
>>543487766Holy retard, mate chinas debt service cost isn’t it’s economic issue it’s lies in not shifting away from being a export economy >>543487908Yeah uh check the hs1 index, every stock that hasn’t got “AI” plastered on it is basically nearing or beginning to reach market crash levels of price we are having a stealth market crash / recession
>>543489378kikes are also brown like you arabs basically cousins
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>>543489393the miggers never really think their copes through lmao>>543489401>every bond market is the same>china's isn't>ummm retardnigger
>>543489401Until oracles corp bonds get downgraded to junk status then it stops being so stealthy, at least unlike in 2008 this time blackstone and other pe firms will be the ones going belly up #fuckblueowlcaptial
>>543487908it's mcfucking overhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DFZGhV8ORE
>>543489306The thing is, you can manipulate almost every market in the world, except the bond market. It is far, far too large for any single entity to make a dent in, even the US government. Bessent tried, it's like pissing into the ocean and his effort got wiped cleaned in days. It's why they call the bond market the fiscal disciplinarian of last resort.
>>543489478Great wasn’t agreeing with the first guys point but the implication was that chinas economy was fine because much bond yields aren’t hecking rising when if you take one look at chinas economy and their equivalent by monthly metrics they are nearly as fucked
>>543489507Hold on you haven’t ruled in the finale intervention which is the military
my sister went on a diet and stopped ordering mcdonald's through doordash. the golden arches have fallen.
>>543489393>How would China fake it's bond interest traded in the open market lmao.By buying them obviously. Their industrial capacity is high and they dont seem to have any stability issues in their government so there's really no reason right now for them not to be where they are at.
https://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/The US rate isn't totally crazy considering a totally unhinged scammer Trump is in charge. Truss in the US was 20% as nuts for a single day, the markets forced her to resign.Someone in the US should write a story for sure though that the US under Trump is less creditworthy then Vietnam
>>543489539you mean if you watch a retarded peter zeihan video, meanwhile the markets are saying the oppositefact of the matter is that us bond auctions are failing while there's an 8x oversubscription every time china offers a bond auction, bessent has been buying back bonds by the billions while china isn't, when people actually put their money on the table they put it on china's and say that muttmerica is fucked, no amount of shitty cia funded videos about china collapsing in 2 weeks will change that
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>>543489507Ehhh a concerted effort can make a dent remember bessent had to intervene in the yen due to Japanese selling of us t bills which was making them rise a fair bit
>>543489507The U.S. has manipulated the bond markets for decades. Their manipulation is only failing now because of the sky high debts making it harder and more obvious to the market.
>>543489673A concerted effort can delay the envitable for about a week. Then the market views that as a sign of weakness and make you swallow the steaming pile of shit two fold.
>>543489656>it’s actually the opposite >no data just Le Peter zehian said something roughly similar so must be 100% false You are a slobbering fuckwit
>>543489604>By buying them obviously.like bessent is doing? LMAO how come it isn't magically working for muttmerica?
>>543489735We to argue semantics I would say months but yes it’s attracts soros drucken miller types to come out and stab you
>>543489770every ausnigger flag is a glownigger until confirmed jeet btw
>>543489859>>543489770
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>>543489820>LMAO how come it isn't magically working for muttmerica?Because of the $40 trillion in debt. Tell me you are new without actually telling me.
>>543489972>muttmerica's bond market is imploding>every bond market is imploding>except china's>those are fake>how>by buying bonds back>muttmerica buys bonds back too and yet their bond market is still imploding> ummm you're newtell me you're a glownigger kike trying to damage control without actually telling me
>>543490065Conspiracy theories are the refuge of the stupid, like yourself
>>543490117try glowing less next time eglin tranny
>>543490065the only cope i can think of is maybe china's falling rates indicate they are in a deflationary recession which could be true because who can afford to buy anything from china right now?
>>543490065I pointed out China's bond market isnt fake and why. >>543489604You're just new and dumb.
>>543490225Chinas own middle class can’t even afford to the buy the products they produce, finally someone on here sees the picture with China just take a look at their stock market and you will see this roughly reflected
>>543490225>China’s exports jumped 25% year-on-year to $401.44 billion in August 2026if anything it's the opposite, everyone is buying green tech, EVs and electric buses from china now out of panic of oil shortages>>543490299kek the glownigger is literally just spamming tired old peter zeihan garbage now, 2 more weeks tranny
>>543490397>IMF reports are actually Peter zeihan Retarded Jeet who got one shotted by Chinese LED buildings videos calling it now
>>543490488go back to spamming your retarded webms tranny
>>543490225No, it has to do with China's savings rate. Both their lack of inflation and low bond yields are connected the East Asian's behavior of saving a ton. An ingrained psychological trait to survive drought, flood, and famine cycle that their region is prone to. Average person stash their savings into savings account that pay interests, the bank buys safe assets like government bonds with them.
>>543490397>China’s exports jumped 25% year-on-year to $401.44 billion in August 2026i see. it's actually chinese citizens who can't afford to purchase chinese products. domestic consumption accounts for about 60% of their economy.
>>543490629any other migger copes?
>>543490629With household consumption being 40% of annual GDP, but uh yeah no domestic consumption problem according to some anons In this thread just ignore this article as well https://amp.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3369129/china-asks-local-governments-pilot-high-quality-policies-boost-consumption
>>543490779why are you glowtrannies so washed now? you tried to pull gay psyops 4 years ago and now all you have is "uh uh uh d-domestic consumptbrrrrppftthh" KWAB LMAO pathetic glownigger trash you lost
>>543490856Thank you for you concession ;)
>>543489027not sure. how much do you have?
>>543490920this you? KWAB
>>543490673it kind of looks like deflation is driving down bond rates in china due to weak consumption or overproduction inside china. they are making lots of shit no one wants to buy, lol.
>>543490984it kind of looks like tranny glowies are having a meltdown
>>543490967You are seething so much you forgot to blame Peter ziehan
>>543491059>y-you're seethingsays the glownigger seething and coping endlessly in my thread LMAO keep bumping little bitch
>>543491121>22 posts by this ID
>>543491179>y-you posted on t-the 4chanwhy do glowtrannies think this is some kind of gotcha? bump
>>543487548This just means there's less faith in USD, which makes sense because interest rates have been hiked higher AND debt will be harder to pay back.Which in turn, makes China the next option to trust >>543487766 (as we can see here) The average joe in America doesn't make enough money, CC debt at ATH, car repos rocketing, and daily necessities like food, gas, utilities, rent, etc., have all increased while wages are stagnant. Not to mention job layoffs have increased, and many entry level jobs are outsourced out of the country. The signs of a collapse are there, and no matter how much damage control the US gov't tries to do, it's already too late, as the market is responding to it.What will follow next is our market will collapse, jobs will continue to plummet, and putting food on the table will become harder, in which we can then see an increase in crime. Then it'll be blood on the streets.What surprises me, though, is that the crypto market is still somewhat up there. I would have thought it would come crashing down, but either it's being manipulated, or we're seeing a hedge against USD slowly via crypto. Besides that, everything else makes sense.
>>543489093On the contrary actually. Interest rates are so high for homes, that a 30yr mortgage in a simple 300k home doesn't even make it worth the investment. You'd have to wait a long time until the FED brings rates back down to pre-covid levels before the housing market becomes appealing.>>543490984>they are making lots of shit no one wants to buy, lolAgain, on the contrary, their chip and memory market has skyrocketed, making them the biggest supplier of the new age of tech. Big corporations like Apple, Samsung, Dell and even Microsoft are buying up their chips. So much so that they can't even keep up with the demand. Sad part about this is that the US gov't is actively trying to place limitations on these big corps from buying from China, and if they do place some sort of ban on importing chips or sanction China, tech will only go higher in price.
>>543492461>>543490984>they are making lots of shit no one wants to buy, lolLol indeed
who is Bond Yields?
>>543492461if every nation that imports chinese crap is going to collapse, and if chinese citizens can't afford to buy anthing, how will china stay afloat? have you ever thought of that? no, of course not because you aren't capable of basic deductive reasoning. your laughter will gave way to tears when the collapse of the west drags china down with it.
Anonymous (ID: +3S8rKqL) OP 23 pbtid """""""Hungary flag"""""""has been s#@mming this 'muh China bonds' topic for three days under other flags (Poland, South Korea)
>>543492716You do realize these countries can just, idk, sell off US treasuries to save their own asses, right?Do you really think they would just sit in a sinking ship, doing absolutely nothing?
>>543493020that might give them cushion in the short term but in the long term they are screwing over their biggest customer who will never be able to afford to buy from them again.the us is china's rich uncle who has been paying china's tuition for decades. now the us is terminally ill with cancer and the rest home is going to take everything, leaving china with nothing.
>>543493296I think you're assuming that holding US debt is some sort of favor to the US gov't. It isn't. Foreign central banks hold US debt because it yields interest and acts as a safe haven asset to protect their own currencies during economic crises. And selling those treasuries to support a domestic currency (like Japan for example) is simply utilizing a savings account for its intended purpose. So this little concept of yours "Chinas rich uncle" is flat out retarded. It isn't a chairty case scenario, as you're making it seem. It's business.
>>543489401>Holy retard, mate chinas debt service cost isn’t it’s economic issue it’s lies in not shifting away from being a export economySuper cope.
>>543489604Buying them mean they are retiring the debt. That's not faking anything.
>>543487548A bond yield just flew over my house.
>>543496050To /pol/ users might as well be. Nobody on 4chan comprehends or understands anything at all about 21st century global macroeconomics
