Good luck with yours.
>>543493506Jews already outsourced your job to chinks pal
>>543493506What is a robot?
>a job that requires a machine>won't be outsourced to the king of all machines You fucking dumb!
>>543493506>replace you with a jeet or spic
>>543493586The making of yeah. And to Mexico. But the repair, nope.
>>543493506Kind of amazed you haven't already been replaced by a mechanical arm and a camera.
>>543493629Machines can't understand the metal.
>>543493723The workers have, but the repair won't be. Do any of you even understand what Tool and Die repair is?
>>543493758Remember 2023 when Will Smith spaghetti being shit meant technology could never replace human animators?
>>543493506Ray Kurzweil gonna take yer jerbs and Mamdani gonna make you humble. A chinaman, a negro, and a yankee are all fundamentally selfish carbon-based lifeforms who are obligated to serve the materialist ideology of memetic representative theism. If you're not making a representation of reality and arbitraging everyone trying to do real life, then you are lower than a dog.
>>543493758https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxhqhEQTcnc
>>543493506Even if that were the case (lol), what do you think is going to happen to all the people AI displaced? There will be a much higher supply of machinists dropping your wage to basically nothing and completely eliminating any sense of job security you ever had. And let's be real, it's not like you had great job security to begin with. Blue collar is the peak of fungible labor units unless you're some absolute 1 in 5 trillion genetic freak, which you're not.Society is a closed system, a zero-sum game. You don't live in a vacuum. The Lebanese civil war was kicked off by Palestinians, and the Palestinians were in Lebanon because of Israel. Get the picture?
>>543493697I've only ever met one non-White Die Repair guy. Never met a woman one. The seamonkey was actually pretty good.
>>543493864No job is safe. Having an entire economy of strictly extensible grammar is too powerful for the guys up top who are too lazy to give of themselves. Assimilative religions always win, because it is basic human nature to give rather than receive.
>>543493506Software developer hereWhen my job is taken, any other job be taken in 1-2 years maxAnd my job is basically obsolete alreadyDo with that information what you will
>>543493506Oh look a lathe monkey.T. Run and program a mill.
>>543493506I'm sorry for your wage, wagie
>>543493939Jokes on you pal, machinist wages are already shit!
>>543493939Look up Tool and Die in your area. Plus, I have vast experience in it. I get headhunted at least once a week. The people being fucked by AI aren't really the type who want to work physically, now are they?
>>543494093I do. And lathes are a very small portion of my work. Very small.
>>543493506Should be possible to use AI for.I assume there are already automated versions of the laiths.All you need is an AI to write the prigram on what to build.
>>543493506SAAR! I do it for Cheaper! SEe I no buy Table or PPE. SAAR! HIRE MEEEE! PLEASE SAAAR!
>>543493864Now you destroyed his dream!! 5 axis cnc machines are amazing. Love them.
>>543494127Not a machinist. Tool and Die. Different. I do well.
>>543493823>Do any of you even understand what Tool and Die repair is?Yeah, it's called "order a new one from China"
>>543494240AI doesn't understand the metal. The differences. Nor could it fix a broken die.
>>543493506kek wat
>>543494300CNC machines are a tool. Put a broken die in it and see if it fixes it.
Arrogant midwit blue collars will be the first replaced by advanced robotics.
>>543494318>wait two months with no productivity
>>543493823>repairif you fire the human and you buy a robot instead it's literally cheaper to fully replace the part, ask the robot to make a new one.
>>543494449Again. You people confuse a lathe and Die Repair.
>>543494541You sir are retarded. > no productivity >wait>machine can't take the die out and replace the part
>>543494318>Breaks even with domestic after shippingOops!
>>543493506>Running a manual latheDo you work in a museum?
>>543494584Maybe pick a different image for the OP. Don't worry, you can edit it, give it a try!
>>543494693This is true. These guys have no idea how many dies I've had to fix as soon as they arrived from China and Mexico. Literally day of because the parts wouldn't be in spec.
>>543494758I expected people to know reading and shit.
>>543494742I work in Tool and Die. Sometimes you have to because you need it to fit and there isn't a program.
>>543494840Honestly I'm surprised these fucking zoomers haven't spent the whole thread debating on whether that guy was getting some mewing reps in, and whether his technique was correct.
>>543494658>>machine can't take the die out and replace the partSo you don't know
>>543494449How do you make a tool thats strong enough to cut another tool that is being made to cut metal (or another tool)?
>>543493506my....job?
>>543494142>I get headhunted at least once a weekYou're so full of shit lol. Just stfu lmao.
>>543495033No, I understand quite well. Show me a clip of a machine taking the die out after a major break (say 14 pieces because an operator stamped too many in the die) then weld those random pieces back to together and make it cut metal again whilst keeping the part in QC specs.Go ahead.
>>543494476Every time something like a die or machine tool breaks it’s almost always because an operator or shitty programmer or some other version of human error caused a crash or deferred maintenance. The more automated things get the less they’ll fail, and the less things fail the more economical it is to just replace anything that breaks instead of trying to fix it. Eventually manufacturing will be split into two tiers, the first being high end, high energy local automated manufacturing making anything big or super high end. The second being distributed, disposable, automated, AI optimized 3D-printing/table top machine tools/mobile CMMs that are capable of not just building themselves, but reverse engineering, manufacturing and assembling their own structures even without explicitly remembering its own CAD/CAM or engineering. One day it’ll get to the point where both CAD/CAM and repair is completely obsolete and any computer anywhere with a proper suite of machine tools that can sustain their own ecosystem is self replicating without any human intervention or dedicated software. The only bottlenecks in the system will be energy and raw materials
>>543494304Tool and Die is honestly an art form. I have done some manual machining, some 3, 4 5 axis and wire EDM CNC work. I want to get out the trade as I have concerns over breathing in cutting fluids and metal particulates.
>>543493506Ai is capable of what is in picrel. If it's unrelated I would say, without knowing what your job is: "by now". They opened a door you can't shut anymore. Like 'Pandoras Box'. Maybe not now. Or in a decade. But give it a Century and even these guys holding balloons for kids, at a festival or community party, are all robots (using Ai). The problem is that it has the potential to lead us, as humans, to other galaxies, to flee the death of our one own. But I doubt we will live long enough because we WILL use it for other reasons. That said, no matter what your job is, the job itself is null and void - in the future.
>>543494225I have done some CNC and manual lathe work, I find it more monotonous than milling or mill turn 5 axis stuff. That said knurling on a manual mill is downright relaxing.
>>543495261Yeah. The welding and hand grinding can fuck you up as well. It gets in you.
>>543495159Not that anon, I get random unsolicited offers pretty regularly as well
>>543493506Yeah.
>>543494584robots already weld pipes better and faster and more reliable than any human could ever hope to do itall you brainlets waste a lot of time to learn the craft, and you take it with you. robots need to learn it only a single fucking time, and it gets deployed on any future robot in seconds, forever from that point forward.an army of robots around the planet can receive the skill in minutes. you're done, you just don't know it yet. they can move in ways human hands just cannot, they can also feel temperature and pressure in a lot of points on their fingers, todayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emS92ae35wYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbkSbP0KKv8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smUQukXhiAwyou have no idea what is about to hit you. you have ...maybe 30-40 months of payment. tick tock
>>543493629If you had any understanding of the world, you would know that CNC machines have existed for decades and Machinists are still gainfully employed across Western countries.
>>543495301I worked at a shop that made automation robotics, it is still a long way off from totally replacing humans.
>>543495057It's all just higher levels of hardness cutting lower levels hardness, and then wearing out eventually anyways. Think of it like a game of rock paper scissors with diamond at the top, hundreds of metals in the middle steps, and you use something shitty and soft at the bottom (rock) to break the top into little pieces.
>>543493506CNC replaced manual machining 50 years ago, moron. You really think AI won't be able to figure out how to load some g-code and press the start button?
>>543493506It's another tradecuck thread. The thread where some room temp IQ retarded tradie tries to gloat about his slave-tier manual labor job and how much money he "totally" makes even though a quick Google search immediately proves his figures wrong! Man, I'm sure jealous, tradecuck, that I get to make 50% to 100% more than you in sanity working conditions in a heated/AC'd office, work no more than 40 hours a week, and am in better physical condition than you!Kill yourself
>>543495487The biggest problem is the software which is just around the corner from becoming recursively self improving. A program like masterCAM has something like 100,000 man years of programming that went into it. Now imagine an AI that can do engineering so efficiently on the fly that it doesn’t even need CAD/CAM, it just in situ spits out code that’s superior to anything human generated, and whatever it shit out of its ass in five seconds is infinitely superior to the entire sum of human CAD/CAM. Standardization, interchangeable parts, all of that shit will become obsolete. AIs will be able to fit to form everything effortlessly just mapping its own infrastructure.
>>543495553It's not that easy, retard.They're working on ai generated programming and they suck ass right now and only do three axis machining.
>>543495209The thing about "replacing everything" is just very unlikely to happen. You would need to order very expensive parts in multiple quantities to ensure that down time remains at a minimum. Every minute that a line isn't running means the company is losing money (and possibly contracts) and the company that uses these parts to create their products (I work with MAJOR car companies) could be down costing massive money to whichever company caused them to shut down.Most of the parts, which is a multitude of for each die, costs hundreds, mostly thousands, of dollars to make so ordering multiples us unwise. Not to mention most parts go through a line so there are a lot of dies. A lot. A lot of parts in each die. Also sometimes it's a small thing like a gas spring going out. Or a regular spring just breaking. Who will diagnose that? I don't see a machine diagnosing that. That the part is out of spec, sure. But I could find the problem by looking at the die.
>>543493506he looks like an overfed coomer
>>543493506???
>>543495405They sure do weld that shit fast and well. That takes the operations job. It's programmed for that specific weld. Now take a broken die, randomly broken, stick it in that machine and tell it to make a cutting edge.
>>543493506Thank you for your service wagie.
>>543493506Have your scraped your own surface plate?
>>543495553It’s not merely a matter of loading in G code and pushing a button. There have been instances I can think of where the engineers designed parts a specific way and those parts needed to basically be reengineered on the shop floor to make them machinable, often times they do not take things like fixturing into account. Even with solid fixturing tool wear exists, you cannot expect a machine to account for the fact it’s endmill has worn down a bit and make an adjustment of .0005”. Again, I have worked at shops with major customers like Amazon & Lockheed making robots to speed up the automation of the work place and we are a long long way off from having a fully automated shop floor even with Mastercam or Fusion 360 and bar feeders pushing stock into 5 axis turn mills. Even the “dark factories” need set up guys to tend to the machines and ensure they don’t crash. Say you have a spot drill that breaks on a lathe, that creates a sequence of tool crashes, I have never had it happen to me, but it does happen…spot drill breaks, drill crashes, tap crashes…parts get scrapped, costs the shop time and money.
>>543495763I work in an air conditioned clean machine shop 40 hours a week.Does anybody even know what a modern machine shop looks like? It seems like people still imagine a shitty brick building with huge windows for lighting and a splatter mark on a wall where someone got hit with a part from a lathe.
>>543495763Post your foreskin Desk swine.
>>543493823I do the same work sonAnd I love it 57yo
>>543493506yes it will. the last jobs will all be women jobs - HR, prostitution and of course the safest of all, bureaucrats
>>543495836Thanks, just sold your part design to China.
>>543495882Money isn’t even going to matter once this shit happens lmao. Once AI is good enough capitalism itself becomes obsolete, an AI powered dynamic planned economy will actually allocate resources better against scarcity than price discovery does.
>>543496121This
>>543496064that's what I'm saying, that's a general purpose dexterity thing, it's not about catching up to humans, it's just how much more beyond they're going to be, in a very fast time all things considered.
>>543496229Wow, you're a clever one. Please tell me what information you gleaned from that picture.
>>543496230>He thinks he's getting an allocation
>>543493506I'm a lawyer and i just defer everything to ai now. What's the worst case scenario? It's wrong? Whoodedoo lawyers are wrong all the fucking time. I just have to check to make sure the law exists. I'm basically on autopilot at this point.
>>543496354I don’t assume I’m getting shit. It’s just the way things are heading. I’m not even advocating it, I just am familiar with manufacturing, understand the classical limitations of automation and recognize the implications of an AI that can react dynamically to those bottlenecks and what it can achieve once it outperforms any conceivable form of human input.
>>543496485>lawyerAct jewish, you'll get more jobs.
>>543493506Based machinist
>>543493506It will and very soon. The entire would will be controlled by an AI system that runs the planet like it's playing Factorio. There will be no more jobs.
>>543495159I'm not OP, and I just got 3 offers last week
>>543493506AI wont take any jobs
>>543496626Thanks but there is a difference.
>>543493864I only prototype, did it for 20 years. And I made that plane alone.I guarantee you; I am safe even from the chinese.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe3-6ie_TC4I used 4 CNC.
>>543495553No it didn't. There are still many manual jobs that aren't worth writing a program for. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>543494449Who do you think is programming these things, retard.
>>543496121Everything you’re describing is limitations of conventional machine tool programming, which are basically just really fancy long winded canned cycles that repeat and assume ideal parameters with no deviation or wear. Once the system can dynamically optimize the inputs/outputs and map/observe its own processes and status better than a human observer than the computer will outperform in the last roles humans are still relevant.
>>5434935061. You don't have that job2. Lathes got replaced by propgrammable lathes an eternity ago3. Ai is taking over
>>543496849This is because programs are still written by humans and non-computerized machine tools are still more cheaply operated by a human than an android. That won’t be the case forever
>>543493506One way or another you're getting replaced. If your job is paying you enough to live comfortably they are scheming a way to push you out. Whether that's a robot driven by AI or a jeet being driven by AI it really amounts to the same thing at the end of the day as far as you're concerned.
>>543497011Wrong on all accounts.
>>543494142If your skillset can be learned in a six month apprenticeship, then expect unemployed people who already proved they can study for 4+ years to pick it up. It's not much of a stretch for someone with a background in electrical engineering to learn to become an electrician, nor a mechanical engineer a plumber.
>>543493506>Job
>>543493506Ai can't walk dogs, so is my dogwalking gig safe?
>>543497267>six month apprenticeship>For tool & dieLol, did everyone here just stumble in from stupid town? Lmao.
>>543493506no but an indian willan indian AI
>>543493506AI won't replace you, but people replaced by AI will make it much less profitable.
>>543493506If we get to a generation of AI that triggers mass layoffs of all white collar workers, the economy grinds to a halt and you will almost certainly also lose your blue collar job. In the event that you somehow miraculously don't, super intelligent AI will be pushing out all-purpose robots that are better at all blue collar work than humans in probably less than a decade from its birth.
>>543496121>you cannot expect a machine to account for the fact it’s endmill has worn down a bit and make an adjustment of .0005”Uh, what?3D printer slicers can do trivial flow rate compensations "on the fly" so adjusting for tool wear on subtractive manufacturing CAM is not some insanely impossible idea. The problem is gcode is an ancient system that was never meant to be updated during runtime. There is active research trying to change that to fix exactly the problem you're describing.
>>543497267Mostly they want five years of hands on experience in my field. Probably because they want shit to get done. Hiring out of the gate happens but even with schooling I've never seen someone who still didn't need to be taught.
>>543494090> Software developer hereKek. It's all ogre now
>>543493506thats what the migrants are for
>>543497716I forgot how they are highly skilled.
>>543496832Good for you my French friend, I have nothing against who can still do well in this Hell.
>>543497036Ok buddy. Hold your breath.
>>543497697Again, you're talking generations. Even if that upgrade is reached it is far too expensive to be put into practice immediately. Who will make parts for your robots? More robots? Turtles all the way down? You're a fucking idiot and you're dreaming if you think we will see that in our lifetime. Soft handed little bitch.
>>543495487>it is still a long way off from totally replacing humans.As I said. Give it a few decades at least, maximum a century. But it will come. For everything. A door nobody can shut was opened.
>>543493506I’m a horse trainer, I feel pretty secure
>>543498596>horses standard, cars expensive >cars standard, horses expensive I'm seeing a pattern
>>543495782>100,000 man years That are 1600 real life workours (per person)
>>543498358>wage slave cope
>>543493506they literally capturing thousand and thousand of pajeets working in various tasks with cameras, to gather enough data to train ai robots, it will replace you, you have ten years max.ofcourse, this version of "ai" is as smart as they trained to be,but i think the version which learns additional data is not far away,when that comes out it will supercharge development, or destruction.
>>543498358>in our lifetime Digital computing didn’t even exist when my grandma was born. Even the transistor didn’t exist back then. The gulf between manual transitioning to CNC was way bigger than the gulf of CNC transitioning to AI control and a self-sustaining robotic manufacturing ecosystem.
>>543499347Read the thread before responding.
>>543493506Job?
if your job doesnt require critical thinking then AI will take it soon.
>>543499674Unless your job involves you being a sheboon working in our government.
>>543495153What day is this?
>>543499347There are companies paying skilled 1st world professionals mid-6 figure salaries to train AI to do their jobs these days.
Im in my second year in uni to become a historian.Please tell me my job isnt going to be replaced by AI in the next 5 years
>>543493835And? It still hasn't. Your 15 second slop clips look like shit.
>>543493506>AI won't be taking my job.CNC was the first step and had machines take over 90% of the work.
>>543500111You still make good money as a CNC operator.
>>543500029more like two years
>>543499813This but unironically. The only safe jobs will be make work jobs. The AI world manager software will probably just come up with a larp for every person that makes them feel useful and allocate resources to people based on who LARPs the most enthusiastically.
>>543494449Who do you think operates this, maintains it, and switches out the tools? Besides these things are fuckass expensive expensive in comparison to manual and semi manual machines for mass production.>>543495057There are hundreds of variations of steel alone all ranging in quality, hardness and ease of deformation. Then you can enhance the metal meant for tools, pre-heat the piece that is supposed to be work on and so on.
Lathes are scary. I've seen too many people get chewed up by them.
>>543500179No you don't. Programmer+operator maybe, but button pushers make peanuts.
>>543499452>Digital computing didn’t even exist when my grandma was born. Even the transistor didn’t exist back thenyou know what makes me feel old? I personally knew a family member born in the 1800's. Feels like that should be impossible
>>543500290Hm actually you're right. Damn times has changed the past 15 years. Could have sworn CNC operators made like at least 4k per month
>>543493506>post manual lathe technology from the 80's>in 2026 automated machining centers exist ngmi
>>543500029"historian" is even a real job
>>543495153>>543499954i love you
>>543500401Lol no. First of all, try finding a CNC job in the so called first world when the majority of machining is done in China and Brazil. Secondly, button pushers don't need much specialized training, they're basically there to babysit the machine. And lastly, AI is probably going to be employed to program parts pretty soon, which means us programmers and operators won't be in demand.
>>543500497Its more of a qualification for different jobs
>>543493506It doesn't look like AI will be viable for machining any time soon. LLMs are terrible with cad/cam.
>>543496896>Who do you think is programming these thingsAI very soon if not already.
>>543500225They aren't as bad as those Chinese make them out to be. I only saw a Japanese guy get two fingers removed because he didn't take his gloves off. I also saw a guy get his arm stamped inside of a machine because he was inside the light curtain. Working with a lathe just don't have anything loose, or it to catch on. I've hit my hand on it a few times and there wasn't anything for it to catch on so it was just a smack. You don't even have to be smart, just be smarter than the machine.
>>543496230>Socialism will work for real this time because... uh... because of AI!!!!!!!!!It's been 178 years since the Communist Manifesto was written and socialism hasn't worked out even once yet.
>>543500564bro what are you actually going to do
>>543500435You are mentally retarded.
>>543500497Old companies like Ford GE etc have historians since their brand is more than just the products now. Also librarians
>>543495057>How do you make a tool thats strong enough to cut another tool that is being made to cut metal (or another tool)?>Take mild steel>Machine it into a tool>Harden it
>>543500683Actually, they use carbide nowadays, grandpa.
>>543493506Based. When I was a kid I worked at a shop using Mazak and Pfauter machines doing cnc. Easy work. But the tool and die guys were all old white guys. This is why I am a contractor (plumbing, electrical, flooring, painting, etc). Now with most of the spics gone I make 150 to 200 bucks an hour. Can't outsource what needs a liscense and is done in country. Thanks Trump!
>>543493717only small companies would require machinery repair, bigger companies just throw the old ones and replace them. But again, small companies and workshops are now almost extinct.
>>543500647Most jobs involve handle archieves and do research on said archieves, a lot of times you get commissioned by the municipality to do a research on something.Either that, or you work as a guide at some cultural site like a castle, or at a museum. You can also be a teacher assistant (or combine it with a pedagogical course and become a teacher).
>as a machinist, there's no way computer numerically controlled machines and other forms of automation will take my job where I precisely machine a part from metalOk I guess
>>543500658your imagination is the limit single piece job setupper fixer latherman
>>543500029Your job got replaced by smartphones 20 years ago.
>>54350068Not disagreeing with you, but some metals you need to angle cut even with you using a better metal. Like D2 versus d3. If you straight cut the d3 loses even though it's stronger. I can cut through d3 with d2 using angles. But you are basically right.
>>543500783boston dynamics runs a small workshop to produce atlas
>>543493823>Do any of you even understand what Tool and Die repair is?We already have the technology to telepresence someone using a dexterous humanoid robot. Your job exists only because nobody is selling such a service at a yearly rate less than your salary.
>>543500179>good money as a CNC operator.Lol, lmao.Whoever told you that was lying.I can take any retard off the street and train them to operate the green button.No point teaching them about the red button because by the time they realize they need to push it it will be too late.
>>543501013Another guy with no clue. Suppose a die shatters into 15 pieces (it has happened to me) and i not only have to weld it together, but make sure it has a cutting edge that passes QC inspection on the parts coming off of the line. So they can do that? Show me.
>>543501013And those automatons while require a technician. You really don't think all of us machinist that work in active jobs shops haven't played around with Fanuc robotic arms. They already exist in many of our shops right now and they keep me on overtime every other week cause they fuck up all the time and I have to sit there and un-fuck them. So I guess thanks automated robot arm for all the overtime at 43 an hour base
>>543494083>No job is safe.thistwo years ago ai was making vin diesel eating spaghetti and it looked like a retard's nightmarenow we have ai utilized in literally everythingno one knows where super intelligence is at in two more years
>>543501253>you have no clueConsider this alternative: you receive a pay increase, but you now have to travel between multiple shops and factories to repair them. Now you're traveling a lot, staying in hotels and all that, your salary went up, and the businesses are happy because they fired 4 people and replaced them with 1 of you.Do the same thing, your travel time is instant and you operate a robot remotely.
>>543501253you are in denial better build the machine that automates your thing and patent it before someone else builds the machine that automates your thing have a nice day faggot
>>543500783Jesus Christ did the earths IQ drop suddenly?Molds and dies have a thing called 'service life' that's how many times they can be resharpened/repaired. No company no matter how big is going to replace a six figure tool before it hits its die life because 'lol fuk it bruh, just get a new one.'
>>543500568Cad/cam is a human crutch based on the concepts of standardization and interchangeability which are human constructs to make engineering comprehensible and to the human brain and streamline manufacturing against human cognitive constraints. That’s why it stands for “computer-aided.” AI doesn’t need a model crutch, it will figure out it can just ignore CAD/CAM and directly achieve anything it needs for any task by just engineering anything from scratch, copying anything that exists with computerized mapping, ditching g-code, canned tool pathing, etc. and just running machine tools with pure vectoring tied to nothing but raw engineering principles and pure geometry and physics.
Why is tradeslave bullshit being shilled so aggressively n 4chan
>>543501616>>543501629Show me a machine that does "on the spot" fixes for a variety of broken parts (without direct replacement because that would cost way too much), and can keep downtime low.As for traveling I used to when I worked for Honda. I went to a lot of countries on their dime to fix shit the brown people couldn't. Btw, Germany makes the best tools. Mexico and China suck. (When I had to go to China they kept guards on me when I wanted to go anywhere and had a specific shop "for Americans" but the workers there ate slop juice in a bowl. Mexico put me in a neighborhood that was with major drug dealers so it was awesome because they didn't allow riff-raff around their homes.) Neither country knew shit about die repair.
>>543500000wasted
>>543500637Socialism is about ignoring price discovery for political reasons, what I’m talking about is AI surpassing price discovery with raw computational capability and dynamically adjusting the economy more effectively than a market response can.
>>543493506a machine could never learn how to operate this machine better than me
>>543502099Post:>this argument is retardedYour reading:>this is being shilledI wonder if you have considered using your noggin.Someone was being mocked, and it wasn't you. That just couldn't pass, could it?
>>543502099Kill yourself, kike. I'll be in town soon and If I catch you alive I'm going after your smallhat family, too
>>543502279not really, that's serious truth right there. these days a lot of money is offered on what seems to be not much work, but it's worth it since it's money that buys ALL of future employee's work/skill, like all the humans that would have ever worked in that job, by having a few of them train the AI.everyone will happily literally fully sell their soul for a bit of extra cash on top of a normal pay for the job.>somebody will take that money, might as well be me
>>543494142 listen to Tool while I kill myself?Lateralus or Schism
>>543502302Please pay attention.
>>543493586They tried. They couldn't hack it. Being a machinist sucks anyway.
>>543493939We've been in a machinst shortage since the 80s, and it's just getting worse.
>>543495207>after a major break (say 14 pieces because an operator stamped too many in the die) thow about stop breaking it? prevention is worth a thousand of (You)
>>543502451Again, tool and die repair is not a machinist.
>>543502503Oh, cool. Indications of what's actually going on.
>>543495405I've worked for billion dollar companies still running .nc.
>>543495207anyway, even if it's true, this thread is just you gloating? you think your single job will exist in an island of stability while the rest of the world radically changes around you. you expect widespread instability, except for your role as a die machine fixer?everyone else will be fucked.. but they'll still want their dies repaired. this is just a very weird flex. 35pbtid
>>543502539I don't break them. I fix them. I don't run the dies people break.
>>543502312>>543502369>seething faggots
>>543493506I almost took the time to open up mastercam to spit out a few hundred lines og G-cole laughing at you but i am watching latinas vomit on eachother on my desktop so this is the best you get
>>543493506Mate, your job is being done by robots since 2015. You just didn't earn your employer enough money to buy one.Yet...
>>543502291while it has potential to change things, the way it's being used now signals hell on earth awaits.surveillance pricing? fuck outta here.they record everything everyone does, predicts your tastes, and then charges the maximum price it can get away with.you'd think it would charge rich people more but the tests "journalists" we're doing suggested rich neighborhoods were actually charged less. the tests were pretty spotty. it's crazy though seeing wild price swings on phones right next to each other. one Uber ride for 22 and another for 48 to the same location from the same location>seize the means of productioncheck. that wasn't aimed at baristas. blackrock having 9% of every company is enough to pressure them to implement ESG.>from each according to their ability>to each according to their needhere it comes. you ready? "fairness" when fairness has quotation marks around it.
>>543493939Literally. There'll be so many jobless saps ready to do any job. And that's just during the transition phase (which is already happening). Eventually there will be robots that can do tradies' actual jobs too.Third worlders will be the last to be laid-off because they are much cheaper and much more competitive with AI + 3rd world countries don't have the capital to buy the hypothetical state-of-the-art robotics.
>>543502654you won't need to fix it if they stop breaking it.
>>543502907I’m not saying it’s automatically a good thing, I’m saying it’s superior in the abstract. Think of it this way, it’ll be at least as superior at allocating resources as capitalism was superior to socialism or feudalism. It doesn’t win the contest of morality it wins the contest of physics. It’s superior in a purely Darwinian sense
>>543502637Most tradies are like this. They see "hur durr, fucking basedboys are losing their jobs!" and clap at their own self-righteousness and because daddy Trump says it's great being a tradie
>>543503013Wear and tear happens when metal rubs against metal.
>>543502099Because once all of the white collar jobs are gone for men (the only remaining ones will be for Boomers, DEI, and women), they're going to be jobless. They're promoting you being a disposable chattel slave now instead of later
>>543503210I wore out your mom's pussy last night rubbing my dick against the walls of her vagina
>>543502451>Being a machinist sucks anyway.>Be me>Walk into air conditioned facility >Make program for part>Setup machine>Babysit machine through the first part to check tool clearance >Inspect part>Make any necessary adjustments before running the rest of the lotI spend a solid 80% of my day sitting on my ass shit posting here, what do you do for a living?
>>543503325>what do you doMake actual money
>>543493506Your job is one of easiest to automate.
>>543503134If tradies were smart enough to understand the interconnectedness of the global economy, they wouldn't be tradies.
>>543503325I’m amazed they don’t have you bouncing around between five machines with every second of your spare time deburring, gathering shit for the next job and scrubbing the machines. If it’s not like that yet it will be once berkeshire Hathaway buys your shop out.
>>543502857>Muh robotsRobots work well in a very narrow set of circumstances; constant repetitive work.They fail miserably in job shop environments and repair work.
>>543502503>we've been in a shortage!>industry is 70yo never-retiring boomers at the top making 70/hr to basically not work and zoomers who make 15/hr to do everything>wonder why there is a shortage
>>543503741>job shop There used to be a lot of shit they needed blacksmiths for that job shops eventually took over. Once AI is good enough to take over all production shops it’ll eat into job shops too. There’s nowhere for job shops to grow and the only thing protecting them for now is computation limitations which are narrowing rapidly.
>>543503949There is no shortage of any job that these fucks ever shill. There's always a desperate sap willing to do whatever to survive. Our economy needs even less people than it did in 1970 due to automation, yet there's more people than ever. Our
>>543503404>Day trade cryptoVery cool.>>543503476Juggling machines is ez mode, most of our cycle times are 30+ minutes then maybe a minute to change the part and another minute checking the coolant level/ flow and cleaning out chip screens.Programming is the worst part, fucking engineers and their square internal corners.
>>543504307>cryptoClose but no, PE
