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HOW AM I GETTING DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSING TAKES? HOW IS THERE NO AGREEMENT ON HOW THE WAR IS GOING?? HOW DOES NO ONE FUCKING KNOW???

https://youtu.be/xALSmOICLD0

https://youtu.be/njMA9bJOCxw
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Preston Stewart is a damage control glownigger

Historylegends is typically unbiased, and regularly criticises the Russian performance in the war
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>>543498601
>WHO THE FUCK IS WINNING THE UKRAINE WAR?
jews
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>>543498601
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The Aryan one is always right when compared to a blackhead
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>>543498782
>Historylegends is typically unbiased
Lmao fucking retard.
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>>543498601
being a shill for fuckin russia must be just about the hardest job in the world, i hope that twat making the same video for 4 years gets at least paid well
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>>543498601
>those views
I just realized having a faceless channel spouting nonsense and reading the news to anxious boomers must make mad money.
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>>543498601
>HOW AM I GETTING DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSING TAKES?
With confirmation bias anything is possible.
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>>543498601
The guy on top is extremely immature btw.
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>>543498601
Who cares? More dead slavs lol.
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Russia is winning.
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>>543498782
/Thread

Only deluded transvestite males of the NAFO persuasion seethe at HistoryLegends.
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>>543498601
>watching gay youtube men
There's zero point to this they have no useful information they aren't on the ground reporting.
Just admit you're gay for them and want to give them all your money.
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>>543498601
Jews are winning
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>>543499633
Kys muttaloid, both sides are kike control ponzi clown world scheme killing the locals. TOTAL COMMIE MUTT DEATH
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>>543499887
chill out macaco
dont project your swarthiness and ghetto brain onto me faggot
go rob someone on the streets
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>>543498601
The answer is nobody. Neither side can effectively defend against fpv swarms so any ground gained is just putting your dudes in bombed out shooting ranges. Russia won't accept a western allied nqtion on its doorstep and Ukraine will never accept Russian rule. Any side accepting a ceasfire without a DMZ is just asking for terror attacks and eventual invasion. Ukraine doesn't have the gas to dislodge Russia and Russia lost the ability to gain ground once the initial offensive collapsed. It is looking more and more like Korea 2.0 once Europe thinks Russia has bled enough and they've used the war to play army man for political clout awhile longer
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>in exactly two weeks they will collapse, for real this time!
Whatever
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>>543498601
Russia already lost. Even if it "wins all territories in the next 5 decades" it's a loss it can't undo. We all know, now. Its a loss. A big bit one.
Similar to the usa and iran. Actually it's the same situation. If the usa wins, like in 10 years or 100, it's a loss. It shows how once strong "empires" lost their strength and are NOT as strong as they thought and taught.
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>>543498601
>>543498782
What's funny is that ukraine inherited soviet-style propoganda and population control techniques and russia is mad that it's actually effective at fooling nafotroons
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>>543499633
HL literally believes the Soviets wouldn't have won without LL(lmao), he's also the guy who made the infamous LL image which is spammed everywhere, he strikes me as the average WIGNAT right winger, I haven't watched his videos for like 2 years but I agree with the consensus that Russia is and will win
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>>543500059
Russia is taking more ground now than at the start of the conflict or any time in between.
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It's a jew war, neither side is meant to "win", just kill goyim. See >>543499868
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fuck ukraine, they lost my support
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>>543499868
>source leads to some casino site from SEA
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>>543498601
what is happening?
we need spy reports
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>>543498601
5 years into putins three day war and you still think things have gone according to plan?
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>>543498601
>WHO THE FUCK IS WINNING THE UKRAINE WAR?
definitely not the country that snatches people off the street and then busses them to front lines handcuffed.
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>>543498601
We are The Ukraine war is a giant AI training ground for drone warfare and will be used so American Super Intelligence can use it without needing humans
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>>543498985
Memeflaaggot nafotroon, actual arguments?
HL gives a detailed battle recap
Preston Swears is just your typical cookie cutter Glowslop
And on OPs pic he as always turned out to be wrong as the Ukros got already pushed back from Lyman 2 days ago.
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>>543498601
The ziggertube is obvious bullshit. There is no way those four are taken in the remaining three months.
- Kostiantynvika: according to Putin, it was captured in the beginning of July. As of now, it still has more Ukrainians there than Russians.
- Kupyansk: According to Putin, it was captured in early November 2025. It's still nowhere near under Russian control after they were all thrown out of there after Putin's declaration.
- Dobropillia: Azov recently threw a spanner in the works for Russia's ambitions in the area.
- Orikhiv: its surroundings were recently cleared of infiltrators.

Stewart is correct in that the situation has deteriorated for Russia in recent times. They looked to be on the way in most areas, but instead they've been pushed back. Whether the situation is STILL deteriorating for Russia, idk, but it has deteriorated in recent months. The map on Stewart's thumbnail is out of date even according to pro-Russian mappers. (The only mappers that don't show Ukrainian gains are Ukrainians themselves for opsec reasons.) In reality practically all of that Russian control salient is gone and the zone of Ukrainian control is close to the right end of the Russian flag. Also see Sviatohirsk near the bottom left corner. September 1, Putin claimed Russia had captured it! A completely crazy claim. That just tells you how much Russian commanders are bullshitting up the chain of command.´

(didn't listen to what they said in the videos, not needed)
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>>543498601
>5 years into russia's 3 day special military operation to take ukraine
>achieved zero objectives
>isn't even at the fortress belt yet after taking 1 million casualties
ill say it. ukraine won through a stalemate. russia lost.
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>>543501120
I bet you think Vivaldi is going well, LMAO! Stupid nigger
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>>543500634
>Ukros got already pushed back from Lyman
Lmao. Russia hasn't had any part of Lyman under control since early October 2022.

>>543501230
Yeah, it seems to be going very well according to pro-Russian mappers. Lmao indeed.
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>>543500474
Heres some info on a jewish billionaire and Ukrainian politicians plan to create a new israeli state in ukraine
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/igor-berkuts-plan-for-ukraine
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>>543501394
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
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>>543501394
Ukrainian Channels themelves are resorting now that the "Vivaldi" Offensive in the Lyman direction was unsuccessful.

Cope
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>>543501517
low IQ mizrahi post
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>>543498601
I've been following the war pretty extensively since 2022, although far more in the first two years than the last two.
What I can tell you is that both are biased, but in comparison to the literally-who at the bottom, Alexandre Roberts actually knows his stuff when it comes to military strategy, logistics, and has very solid takes on the individual unfolding situations.
The war is going fucking bad for the Ukraine and has been for years despite all the retarded and insufferable homo cope.
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>>543501699
>no but you see we advanced 100 meters losing 100k soliders
im russian myself koko
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>>543498601
The jews are winning the ukraine war.
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>>543498601
>WHO THE FUCK IS WINNING THE UKRAINE WAR?
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>>543501120
help me I'm winning!
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>>543500168
>What's funny is that ukraine inherited soviet-style propoganda and population control techniques and russia is mad that it's actually effective at fooling nafotroons
No, the propaganda is so fucking bad that I've moved from indifference to Ukraine to absolutely hating any Ukrainian and anyone that supports them. Its probably the first case of anti-propaganda because its so fucking irritating to witness.
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>>543498601
Russia is winning in The Ukraine
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>>543500995
> FOR NOTHING
From the perspective of a dumb mutt, maybe, but for us Europeans this is going to mean a radical shift in our future, geopolitical orientation. USA will be the isolated enemy of everyone including your neighbors, and BRICS nations will supply Europe, South America and Oceania with resources.
it is to say, all they gain is that they can say they defeated you.
Thanks for playing, you've been real assholes!
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>>543501915
Remember when they torched dozens of students alive in Odessa and even shot them and then had the audacity to claim those people accidentally burnt themselves to death?
This video feels a little like karma getting some payback for that fuckery
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>>543501915
>look russia attacked a civilian building that means ukraine is losing!
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>>543501761
>what is military strategy
>hurr durr this town is unimportant because i've never heard of it
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>>543500995
other side claims 2.4mln dead of Ukrainians
even at 1:1 it's unsustainable for them long term
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>>543498601
Russians claim to be based hard gigachads, but on reddit russians act as the most stereotypical buthurt redditors I have ever seen, so I hope it's Ukraine

Literaly got banned for saying that denying the holodomor is like denying the invasion of the ussr by germany, bunch of russians got angry, downvoted and I got banned
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The leaders of Europe are psycho freaks that need to be removed
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>>543498601
the jews are winning
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>>543501499
Strange cope. Desperate times for ziggers, I guess.

>>543501630
Very unsuccessfully pushed Russians back!

>>543501915
Celebrating deliberate murder of civilians just shows how successful the Russian military is.
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>>543498601
there is no truth any more its just whose lies you believe, and your fellow believers in that particular lie that form our realities now
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>>543501947
Europe is going to be an Islamic Caliphate in our lifetime.
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>>543501915
>russia killed civilians in terrorist attacks (as they have since day 1 of the war), that means russia is winning
You didn't show that russia is winning, you showed they're so desperate that terrorism is the only thing they have left
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>>543501517
The whole war was about that territory, which Russia occupies. Ukraine is trying to attack "take the land back", but it's not gonna happen. The people living in those territories are Russians, not Ukrainians. So Ukriane really never had a strong claim over it anyway. Any sane government would just negotiate a settlement. Russia gets the territory, and then no more war.
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>>543502178
somehow russians have fuel for their bombing runs and they are trolling you at the same time.
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>>543501938
From their obsession with entrenchign tools to the Ghost of Kyiv to the Snake Island Fuck You Crew, all the way to Schweiner's counteroffensyiv, they had some premium kino-tier cringe propaganda.
It has been fun laughing about whoever the people are that came up with this and pondering whether such a creature is even human
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>>543502178
LMAOOOOOOOOO
>The loud claims made by Biletsky as part of the “Vivaldi” film operation are completely refuted by servicemen of the 25th Army of the “West” Group of Forces, who are carrying out combat missions in the settlement of Yampil, Donetsk People’s Republic.

>The footage presented as objective monitoring shows our soldiers openly laughing at the claims made by the commander of the 3rd Army Corps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

https://goyimx.com/MilitarySummary/status/2104825681825689922
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>>543502318
its not about the territory russia captured it's about ukraine
and the front line stagnated years ago
the only thing that changes now is how gruesome it is
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>>543502318
> Any sane government would just negotiate a settlement.
Ukraine wanted to, on day 1 of the war. Boris Johnson stepped in and intervened by giving Ukrainians false hopes he never intended to fulfill. Just wait until that narrative becomes established in what remains of the Ukrainian population in a few years. I mean, wait until Ukrainians figure out just how hard the West fucked them, all the way to the end.
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>>543502133
>>543502435
you are low IQ and dont understand war
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>>543502481
Russia controls less of ukraine now than they did on day 1 of the war, so looks like boris johnson was right
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>>543502292
>nooo you aren't allowed to bomb our capital after we bombed you
it should have been finland desu, you faggots are insufferable.
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>>543498782
>avatarfagging
gay ass nigga
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>>543500995
nobody that isn't retarded falls for that propaganda lol
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>>543502435
Trump had them all at the negotiating table and ready to sign. Zelensky is a jew who is liquidation the population of the country and didn't want to give up the war, but he was boxed in by Trump and was forced to.
That changed when Europe intervened to keep the war going. Europe really wants this war for some insane reason. These leaders have the same mindset of insane tranny freaks screeching and making demands. They are gonna get themselves nuked. Maybe their genuine plan is to destroy Europe permanenly, that's how bonkers they are.
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>>543500270
It's been 5 years. They haven't even captured the initial objectives. How the hell are they going to capture Sumy, Kharkiv, Zapo, Kherson, Melitopol, Odessa, Krivy Rih, and all of the other cities they were aiming for in 2022?
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>>543502359
Funny how I never even said anything about Yampil. I take that as an admission on your part that everything I said was correct. All you have is obfuscation, which is just a form of dishonesty. Vranyomaxxing is so played out at this point.
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>>543502556
so the frontline is supposed to stagnate while you lose hundreds of thousands of men every year
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>>543502599
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>>543502650
could have condensed it to
>the ukrainians refused to surrender
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>>543502676
>Yeah, it seems to be going very well
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>>543502668
Because Ukraine has lost over 50% of its population. Russia has barely mobilized. The front line is stopgapped by the flow of ukrainians going to their deaths.
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>it was da evil Anglo-Saxons who prolonged the war
4 years later
>it was da evil Europeans who prolonged the war
Funny how ziggers pretend Russia is some mindless subhuman iq force of nature that can't be stopped or reasoned with, it's their only argument at this point.
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>>543498601
STINKY STILL STANDS
OOH... STINKY!
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>>543502679
read a history book
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>>543502772
Ukraine is about to take it in the Stinky.
It's fucking over, man. Face it
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>>543502713
No, this war is being maintained by Europe. They are the culprits. There is something deeply wrong with European leaders, they have the mindset of insane trannies.
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>>543502836
No this is a US proxy war
Europeans are merely vassals
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Russia is winning.
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>>543502827
let me guess
about WW1?
>>543502836
if only they would surrender
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>>543502915
No it isn't. Trump had them at the negotiating table and Europe intervened to keep it going.
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>>543502801
Wait, Russia killed 50% of all Ukrainians? Woah, kind of sounds like a genocide. No wonder the Ukrainians aren't surrendering! And wait, Ukrainians are being sent to the front lines without support? They don't use drones and robots? Huh, weird, you'd think they would have gotten with the program by now. Do they just run up to Russian soldiers and stand there until they are shot? You make it sounds like the Russians are sustaining zero casualties.
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>>543502801
>muh Mobilisation
Theres a reason Putin has done literally everything possible short of mobilisation, and it's because he's scared shitless of the societal effects of a mobilization. The war is already unpopular in Russia as is, and a mobilisation would admit he doesn't have the situation under control. Imagine late Vietnam except 10x worse because Russia isn't a first world country
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>>543502959
"Ukraine" won't exist anymore soon. That entire people will be wiped off the map permanently. They would rather eradicate their entire population that give Russia the security buffer it requires. Zelensky is a jew
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>>543503037
But wait, who's doing the killing? Are Russians killing Ukrainians, or are Ukrainians shooting and bombing themselves all by themselves with no Russian involvement?
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>>543498782
>Historylegends is typically unbiased, and regularly criticises the Russian performance in the war
Lol. Historylegends is biased to his view count. He made a pro Ukraine video once that didn't do as well and he never tried it again.
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>>543502955
.muh Trumo
come on.
you are naive, like a child.

The US is waging war on its old rival Russia through Ukraine
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>>543502772
As I said, you obfuscate. I was talking about the removal of the large formerly Russian controlled area north of Lyman, a change acknowledged by pro-Russian mappers. You can't deny it so you pivot to something that wasn't even mentioned and pretend THAT is the real Vivaldi. Dishonest leaders, dishonest people, dishonest useful idiots, dishonest bots, that's the Russian way every single time.
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>>543502292
Lmao, as if you nafo troons didn't do this daily in your daily coping threads called /uhg/

Hell, you have an entire board dedicated to daily seething and dilating about Russia called /k/ that you turned into a second reddit just because nobody here likes your faggot ass
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>>543503180
Stop arguing in bad faith. Literally just watch his latest video
He mocked Russia and its military performance
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>>543498601
>russia is preforming worse than they should
>ukraine has been destroyed and is demographically finished and will never recover
uh russia I guess?
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>>543498601
the guy at the top is OSINT, meaning 'objective public information' so you can trust him more.
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>>543503246
>stop arguing in bad faith
K, let me take a quick look at his upload history... kek nevermind
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>>543503117
You know historically countries have changed their whole religion and way of life just to stay at peace with their neighbors? That's how important it is.
Any sane leader running Ukraine would say 'give Russia what it needs'. Because his highest priority is the safety and wellbeing of the Ukrainian people.

It's when you put a jew in charge that suddenly the calculation becomes "to the last ukrainian". They have chose the permanent eradication of their entire country rather than respecting their neighbor in the most basic of ways. That is not a normal decision-pattern, nobody rational would make these choices unless they were compromised.

Now European leaders are far-left and have the childish and inflexible mindest of a screeching tranny. They will blow up the whole continent just to spite Putler.
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>>543503335
>judging a book by its cover
like a nigger, LOL!
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no one fucking know because you found two youtuber channel with opposing views ? did you niggers lost the ability to search information and think for yourselves?
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>>543503347
Crazy that any American would believe that bending the knee to a foreign power is a good choice. Which foreign power do you want to prostrate before?
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>>543503347
just shut up about europe, you historically illiterate retard
It was YOUR people who couped the Ukrainian government in 2014 and forced Ukraine to go to war with Russia
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>>543499868
I don’t understand what the claim here is. So Putin invaded this region to create Khazaria? Jews are going to move to land that will be undergoing decades of UXO disposal? Some of the only land in the world that’s been more contested than Israel?
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>>543503430
If Mexico put Chinese nukes on their border in about 3 days Mexico would cease to be a country. But Mexico won't do that, because the leaders have wisely calculated that the saftey and security of their people is more important than being a sacrificial lamb for a foreign power an ocean away.
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>>543500593
Yeah, but I'm sure by the time they go to the front their spirits improved, eh?
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>>543503459
It was the far left psychopathic troons infesting the west who did it. The same psychopaths who are currently driving Europe towards the same path.
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>>543503602
So why aren't your republican house, senate and president pulling the plug if it's a far left project?
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>>543499470
trump would hand over alaska to putin for free
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>>543503558
lol, they probably asked for HARDCORE mode because with both hands free is too easy to kill those damn ziggers. having both hands cuffed actually gives them slight challenge
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>>543503459
>>543503602
>when a brainwashed thirdie meets a brainwashed migger
Never stops being funny
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>>543503520
Why does Cuba still exist?
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>>543503189
this is a textbook example of pilpul and red herring fallacy. lol
Vivaldi is the whole offensive you fucking retard.
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>>543503459
poor russia forced to invade and slaughter their neighbouring countries for centuries. Also I wonder why most former soviet countries decided to team with the EU instead of russia.
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>>543503699
You have to go back, Mihailo

https://news.liga.net/en/world/news/we-know-who-lives-here-the-german-foreign-ministry-has-expressed-support-for-the-return-of-ukrainian-men-to-their-homes
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>>543503667
They did. But the EU stepped up in its place. They refused to end the war.
Should I say, they reused to put Zelensky in a position where he would be forced to end his war.
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>>543503774
It is Russia natural imperial sphere. They have the right to do whatever the fuck they want with it.
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>>543503879
yeah if you're stuck in the 19th century
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>>543503711
Because they don't have nukes, retard. They made a deal
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>>543500269

Lend Lease was crucial, not in the total number of trucks or fuel compared to the overall war consumption, but for the amount that came in during a make or break moment there, it kept the soviets afloat long enough for them to reindustrialize east of the Urals.
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>>543503774
You don’t understand the CIA made them do it. That’s just how powerful America is, Russians are powerless to disobey their master.
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>>543503602
No they didnt you stupid faggot
EU is irrelevant they do everything the Pentagon tells them to do.

It is your government (Obama, Trump, Biden, they are all the same) that instigated this war.
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>>543503879
>It is Russia natural imperial sphere
When the seething becomes so intense you forget how to use proper grammar and go back to your thirdie roots
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>>543503901
Its a White man thing, you wouldn't get it.
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>>543503978
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>>543503879
Geopolitics isn’t a charity for failed empires.
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>>543498601
History Legends guy is looking 15 years older, wtf happened?
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>>543503761
Indeed, you post nothing but red herrings. A favorite dish of ziggerbots. But it's nice to see you're conceding that Vivaldi has resulted in significant gains for Ukraine!
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>>543503904
>he has never heard of the Cuban missile crisis

They aren't sending their best.
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>>543503955
Have you ever seen how inflexible a tranny is? When they enounter an obstacle their instict is to screech, whine, stamp their feet, threaten people. "But I WANT it!!" Usually the cops have to put them down with physical force because they truly don't get it.

Europe is being ruled by the same tranny mindset. We can't give an INCH to Putler no matter how many have to die! REEEEEEEE!!
That is their actual literal mindset right now. They are fucking nuts. Wanna know why England has psychopathic speech control laws, and is charging rape victims for racism? Because that's who's in charge in England. Someone needs to take these demented psychos out of power, they are totally suicidal like any tranny.
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>>543499868
>We will build Great Khazaria
RETVRN TO MILKERS
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>>543504140
How did that end genius? They made a deal. Just like how Ukraine should make a deal. Jesus christ your brain is fried.
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>>543503984
the funny thing is Russia is always bragging about their imperial rights and their manlyhood yet they cry all the time about other countries not letting them have it their way. It's like a brat throwing a fit when he doesn't get what he wants. If you're imperialist, you impose your rule through force. If you can't, then you're just a whining bitch
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>>543501915
You shouldn't have shown that. I'm going to submit a report to Office 703.
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>>543498601
maybe it was just a bullshit virtual war all along, Both governments are just trucking dudes into a giant abandoned frozen wasteland that hasn't seen life since the 1970's to fight to the death over rations while rich people hunt them with drones and then televised to the world.
And you make bets and gambling on their deaths morally guilt free because its once removed on the predictions market.
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>>543503955
I hope that faggot died with a smile as he got bombed while visiting jewkrainan drone factory. how come he didn't have an open casket funeral if he died of heart complication?
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>>543503672
Hnad over Puerto Rico back to Spain.
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>>543498601
Neither.
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>>543504146
and where does that mindset come you stupid faggot?
Europeans were always friends with Russia until you came along and forced them to be enemies during the cold war.

If you just fucked off back to your shithole this war would end instantly.
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>>543504258
>yet they cry all the time about other countries not letting them have it their way.
When did this happen, you stupid /uhg/ nigger?
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>>543500593
a bit more about the cage buses
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>>543498601
>HOW AM I GETTING DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSING TAKES? HOW IS THERE NO AGREEMENT ON HOW THE WAR IS GOING?? HOW DOES NO ONE FUCKING KNOW???
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>>543504372
It comes from the far left which is running Europe right now. The bureaucracy, the elections, it's run by insane trannies. Europe is not making rational decisions like a level headed man would be making. They are acting like an autistic child throwing a tantrum and breaking vases against the floor
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>>543499362
they do, that's why they're so many of them. they're of varying levels of effort and quality. some are pure AI, others pure voice over, others will regurgitate news headlines from a great span of tiny lugenpresse journals, others do purely map painting. there's channels for both sides so you can always get your world view validated in exchange for ad revenue. Preston Stewart is funny because he's one of those retarded nobodies who appeared during the war and has absolutely no expertise or knowledge, he's just there to collect his paycheck. I'm fairly confident there's some company paying for all these talking head news channels, they're all edited in the same way. I'd even bet both sides are paid by the same company, ala rupert murdoch.
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>>543502972
You don't know what you're talking about.
The first Mobilization was a mess, logistically above all. Way too much corruption and inefficient execution- the juice wasn't worth the squeeze, as we say here. The societal blowback was the effect, not the cause, and, if you actually watched YouTubers from Russia, you'd know that Putin has spent pretty much every moment since then slowly reigning in the Mobilization "machine" to be a cleaner, legitimate operation that will, tragically, condemn a ton of Russian men to death. Legally, of course.
But it will break Ukraine's lines. About two weeks ago, Ukraine rejected what I suspect really was Russia's actual last offer of peace.
Once the Belarus front is opened, this game is over, and that's good, but will be tremendously bad in the short term.
I think any sane man wishes it hadn't come to this. So many good men are dead already, and we've only pushed AI weapons further into the future.

It doesn't matter when Russia wins, because humanity lost already.
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>>543504418
I don't think I've ever posted in that general kek what I said is just what everyone thinks about russia, it's not just one thread on /pol/, the fuck's wrong with your brain
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>>543498601
Where have you been, coconigger?
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I've been told by ziggers for 4 years now that Russia is on the verge of complete and total victory of Ukraine and will soon be in Paris. And whenever I check they lose 200 million zigglets a day to take control of some random village near the Russian border.
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>>543498601
This pic is basically all you need to know about the last 8 months in regards to the frontline.
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>>543504506
Left wing = American
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>>543498601
Ukraine is. That's why it's called the Ukraine war.
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>>543504576
>what everyone thinks
cool, you just outed yourself as a midwit.
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>>543498601
>WHO THE FUCK IS WINNING THE UKRAINE WAR?
Same as win any war: the arms manufacturers
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>>543498601
Russia obviously
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>>543504549
>The societal blowback was the effect, not the cause,
>comma comma comma
>random ass capitalizations
>it doesn't matter, because... already
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>>543504736
I can tell just by looking Orikhiv that this map is living in a different dimension. I've been following this war long enough to spot the regional updates, even from afar. You'd have use believe Zap is "mostly secure" by this fairy tale.
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>>543498601
Which ever you want to believe is, we live in a choose your own reality now.
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>>543504908
Classic German critiquing English like they know better. Your arrogance is astounding, but does a great job ignoring my points.

As you can see, he did not, in fact, know what he was talking about.
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>>543504794
even politicians who sided with russia early on are now saying they side with ukraine even if they don't want to support them financially (french far right group). That's how fucking bad russian support is in europe
Should I also mention the 150+ countries vs 5 condemning the russian invasion at the UN ?

It's playing out the same way as I said before, I'm laying down hard facts and you're just crying and throwing impotent insults as if it's going to change reality. Hard fact is that the Russian empire's time has long passed, and they're now sacrificing their present and near future chasing an old dream. Every neighbouring country is sizing up their army and creating alliances so that Russia can never try the same bullshit with them
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>>543498601
HistoryLegends is the most unbiased one. And he actually gives proper analyses about the importance of certain towns and how the events could play out.
Preston Shitwarts is a nafotroon rat.
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>>543505086
>least obvious ai sloppa ziggerbot
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>>543503335
And were is the lie?
Meanwhile Glowslop:
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>>543498601
>watching that bosnian faggot who cope posts under the leaf flag
ngmi op
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>>543505115
Who the fuck gives a shit what other people think? what are you 12?
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>>543498601
Russia is winning ever since Trump got re-elected. Trump is obviously Pro China and Pro Russia, and before him, Biden Admin was helping NATO be the David vs Goliath it needed to be on EU's limited military and budgets, but since Trump came in those funds have been stagnating, while trying to pressure EU to become more authoritarian in order to do it themselves and prop up our militaries again.

Glass half full says Trump did this because the america/israel house is concerned that Russia v Ukraine is a divide & conquer strategy that will pour the US's majority military support towards a small conflict while China and Iran prepare for a larger war against the US.

Glass half empty is that the US/Israel always knew this, even during Biden, but managed it fine, and then Trump came in to do Putin and Xi's bidding, so that the west grows weaker, shit the bed on the Iran strategy, and led Xi come to the US so they can start capitulating.

Just remember, before Trump came into office the first time, UK was part of the EU. After he had his first term, they were no longer in the EU.

Trump is dividing the west, and Americans are just letting him do it.
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>>543505414
It's weird though he's helped Ukraine less but somehow bumped military spending by another 200 billion lmao and wants to bump it upto 1.5 trillion into 2027 lmao.

Trump is literally putting Americans into debt for a war that no one voted for and no one really understands what for except to keep netanyahu's forever war going on.
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>>543498601
>who is winning the war
the answer is always the bad guy, try harder
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>>543498601
You'll find out when other country's start their Draft to go fight in the good fight.
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>>543502597
>After
Do you really think trying to play the victim card after russia has bombed ukrainian towns and cities for 5 years is going to work? Once ukraine has turned hundreds of russian towns into smoldering ruins, and russian civilian death toll in the hundreds of thousands, then we can say that theyre even
>>543503193
>You did this, you said that
As expected, when vatnigger shill is presented with facts and arguments, only thing he can respond with are insults and ad hominems. Every time. I accept your concession
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>>543498601
The actual answer is "nobody really", but it's becoming increasingly embarrassing for Russia and Ukraine's newfound long range strike capability is causing some real economic distress. But on the flip side Ukraine is incredibly stretched on the front lines because they don't have the same manpower pool as Russia does (and generally much less willingness to throw that manpower into suicidal attacks), it's basically becoming a race to see which side cracks first. There have been rumours about Russia planning some sort of attack on one of the Baltic states as an extreme "escalate to deescalate" measure and if there's any substantial truth to that then Moscow is presumably starting to get a little desperate.
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>>543498601
Ukraine is winning so hard they're demanding a ceasefire.
PS: Preston's literally a CIA paid glownigger



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