It doesn't make sense that Trojans just moved from one side of Greece to the other side. When they got on boats after the sacking of Troy the last place they likely wanted to be was next to Greece again.Italy was founded by Greek settlers, there is no fantastical explanation needed. At the end of Odysseus Journey he even travels to Italy like seen in the movie, it is a short boat trip away. Another interesting thing I noticed over my life is that Irish tend to cluster with Greek, Italian and Jewish friend groups. All 4 groups have similar social traits. Irish are very very different than Northern Europeans, and even British/Scottish people. They act and talk more like southern euro's than NorthernIrish are known for redhead which is common in parts of Greece and Italy and likely used to be very common in Troy. Helen of Troy was a redhead for example, she was Spartan descent so almost definitely not blonde but known for light hair, further connecting redhead south with Ireland
>>543521188Italy was not founded by Greeks.It was founded by Latins.
>>543521292When you take a DNA test there is no "Latin" option you dumb beaner. Italy is a Greek off-shoot, Roman history is Greek history, from beginning to end
>>543521343Latin is white.Latinos are native american.
>>543521188Yes they are Catholic, this isn't news
>>543521188>Italy was founded by Greek settlers, there is no fantastical explanation needed.Italy already had people there before Greeks settled.
>>543521454in the Irish origin story there are multiple founding races of Ireland. one of them is the Milesians (Míl Espáine - Spanish soldiers) who came from Iberia. it's not concretely associated with any historical group because it's mythology.the others were Fir Bolg (Greeks, Israelites in some interpretations, literally 'bag men'), Fomorians (Norse vikings, literally 'Undersea people') and the Tuatha Dé Danann (Pantheon of Irish gods, probably whichever group was settled in Ireland before all the others, the Celts). All these together mixed into Irish people (people of Eire). None of this matters since they are Catholic which offers an explanation for all these relations anyway.
>>543522004in the founding myth the Fomorians are evil giants. Ulster (Northern Ireland) is the part full of Norse descendant (Protestants, the orange part of their flag) so there is a love/hate relationship with them in Ireland.
>>543521188ayo, hol' up...we wuz Trojans n sheit?
>>543522004It's commonly said the Milesians are the ancestor of the Gaels. Gaels are one branch of Celts who speak Gaelic, which is in Ireland and Scotland. The other branch of Celts are the Britons, which is Wales, Isle of Man and Britanny (France). The latter is a candidate for Tuatha Dé Danann who are also heavy on mythology.
>>543522597the Fir Bolg meaning 'Bag people' seems to have connotations with merchants, which is also a symbol of Ireland.
>>543522071Ah, an anon of cultureYou are correct about the love-hate relationship, the ancient prose work The Tain is about a cattle raid conducted against the King of Ulster (inevitably, to impress a woman) and the messy consequences.Alsi if you want a non-cucked fantasy novel set in an imagined prehistoric NW europe, try Jack Vance's Lyonesse, massively underrated writer who is largely forgotten
>>543523551Yes, the mythological national hero of Ireland, Cú Chulainn, was from Ulster and defended it (from Southern Ireland in the myth). Ulster was always the wild part of Ireland even when it was just clans.The hero of Southern Ireland was Fionn mac Cumhaill, his name being the origin of Fenian and the main political parties in the Republic of Ireland (Fianna Fail and Fine Gael). Fianna just means 'clan', 'gang', 'family' or 'tribe', with more nomadic connotations than 'clan' so more like 'gypsy'.Cú Chulainn literally means 'Blacksmith's Hound', a title he took after he killed a dog of a famous blacksmith in self-defence as a child. His actual name was Setanta and he was seen as the incarnation of Lugh, an Irish deity. Masons are a type of smith (tradesman) and the Protestants in Ulster base their clans on them (Orange Lodges). Everybody is playing their part.
>>543524727Lugh is much more common in Welsh than in Irish, where it's spelled Lleu and means 'light'. It appears in a lot of words and names (Llewellyn, Lloyd, Lleucu, the word for church 'Llan' forming the basis of a lot of place names etc.). The countries really don't make sense unless you put them all together, which is the point of the myths. But that's what Catholicism is for.
Ireland burns biomass for powerWhat are they burning anons I don't trust em
>>543521188Irish and scottish claim decent from sythians, through spain and france.
Why are the welsh so superior any ways?
>>543525018the Scythian myth is specific to Scotland (similar names), it doesn't really appear in Ireland's mythology. the equivalent of them seems to be the Fir Bolg but they can also say they're totally different because the Scythians came from the northern seas not the southern ones, so they are more like the Fomorians who the bad guys in Irish mythology, not the good guys like in Scottish mythology.
>>543525121if you say the Scythians are Fomorians, then yes Ireland does descend from them. The connotations are totally different in Ireland though than Scotland. They are different countries.
>>543525121From the Lebor Gabála Érenn..The core of Irish identity for centuries was recorded in the 11th-century manuscript Lebor Gabála Érenn (The Book of the Taking of Ireland, or The Book of Invasions).According to this text, the Irish are descended from a Scythian prince and nobleman named Fénius Farsaid (credited with inventing the Irish language at the Tower of Babel). His grandson, Goídel Glas (the namesake of the "Gaels"), married an Egyptian princess named Scota. Their descendants, known as the Milesians, allegedly migrated from Scythia through Egypt and northern Spain before ultimately sailing across the sea to conquer Ireland.
>>543521292>>543521343Latins were in central italy, magna greacia colonies of greece were in southern italy. You're both right
>>543523551>try Jack Vance's Lyonesse, massively underrated writer who is largely forgottenWill do
>>543525189Here it is saying the Milesians were Scythians, who are from Iberia. Saying the Scottish are descended from the Spanish sounds wrong even if it's right, think about why that would be. Most people would not accept it like they do for Ireland because they are different countries with different connotations. Like this thread was only talking about the Irish being warm blooded latins, not the haggis eating Scots. I don't make the rules.
>>543525262There are indeed Gaelic people in Scotland, who speak Scottish Gaelic. they are concetrated in the Hebrides islands in the west. Most people in Scotland tend to reject this label instead claiming a nordic descent and language before you even get to sectarian Catholic/Protestant differences. They do tend to fully embrace the Scythian label though which is in their name as some vague Eurasian origin. These all have different names with hazy origins confined to mythology for a reason.
>>543525360>These all have different names with hazy origins confined to mythology for a reason.Trvke
>>543525360coping this hard just to ignore basic history lmao. Saying Gaelic culture is just confined to the Hebrides is historically illiterate. The entire Kingdom of Scotland (Alba) was founded by Irish Gaels from Dal Riata. Gaelic was literally the language of the Scottish court and the entire mainland for centuries before the Anglo-Normans pushed it west.
>>543524727Yes, I'm from Ireland and grew up with this so it's pretty rare to knock across anyone online with a good knowledge fo mythology>>543525189>Lebor Gabála Érennthe Gabála is pronounced as (approximately)'gowla' in Irish Gaelic and interestingly 'gowl' still a kid's insult in the west of Ireland, or at least it was when I was growing up. I knew it as a term of abuse long before I became aware of the literal meaning.
>>543525262The "Nordic descent" thing you're talking about is literally just the northern fringe (Orkney, Shetland, Caithness) because of the Vikings. The rest of the Highlands are ethnically and culturally Gael.And you literally can't separate the Scythian label from Spain anyway. If you actually read the Declaration of Arbroath, it explicitly says the Scots came from Greater Scythia, lived in Spain for a long time, and then sailed to Britain. It’s the exact same migration itinerary as the Irish Milesian myth (Mil Espaine).They didn't just spawn from some "vague Eurasian origin", their own documents and modern DNA mapping tie them directly to the exact same Atlantic/Iberian bloodline as Ireland. Pretending Scots are just Norsemen who hate the Irish label is pure whig historical revisionism.
>>543525025Papacy (Guelphs) vs. Holy Roman Empire (Ghibellines)Kingdom of Gwynedd (Welsh Independents) vs. Kingdom of England (Plantagenets)House of Lancaster (Red Rose) vs. House of York (White Rose)House of Tudor (English Crown) to the House of Stuart (Union of the Crowns)House of Stuart (Papal Backed/Tudor/White Rose) vs. House of Hanover (The Guelphs/Red Rose Rosicrusions are back)
>>543525538This is why Wales exists in union with Scotland (United Kingdom). Welsh also claim descent from some "vague Eurasian origin", that they call Celts. They are the Britonic branch of Celts as opposed to the Gaels. Scotland is also in Britain, not Ireland. The Britonic Celtic root goes from Brittany in France, across the Alps (not the Mediterrean) and Carpathians all the way to Romania and the Black Sea, where the Scythians are from. Wales does sound like Gael as some kind of false cognate (maybe tauntingly intentional) but it is related to the word Wallachia, the old name for Romania. Romanians are Latins like the French and the Roma gypsy homeland, but they are not Catholic, they are Orthodox so it also avoids the sectarian religious connotation. It is also related to Wallonia, the French region of Belgium, but they are Catholic so it isn't so relevant. Wales is Anglican (Protestant).As long as Scotland and Wales are in union as the same country, they don't have to justify anything about the Scythians. If they became independent, then they would fall into the Gaelic domain and have to follow their origin myth instead, which probably makes more sense. Scots do accept this with Gaelic being their official language, but in reality most do not. This is why these Celtic countries are obsessed with gypsies (from Egypt, we wuzzers), they don't have to explain shit.
>>543526696>>543522597
>>543521188It makes perfect sense when you comprehend that "Romulus" and "Remus" were not 'two brothers.'
>>543521292Rome was founded by displaced Yahudi (Trojans). They settled Euboea, then moved to conquer and absorb the Etruscans (Celts).
Corrections:(Papacy / Guelphs) vs. (Holy Roman Empire / Ghibellines)Kingdom of Gwynedd (Welsh Independents / Continuous from Papacy/Guelphs) vs. Kingdom of England (Plantagenets / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines)House of Lancaster (Red Rose / Continuous from Papacy/Guelphs) vs. House of York (White Rose / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines)House of Tudor (English Crown / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines) House of Stuart (Union of the Crowns)House of Stuart (Papal Backed/Tudor/White Rose / Continuous from Papacy/Guelphs) vs. House of Hanover (The Guelphs/Red Rose Rosicrucians are back / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines)The Jacobite Underground Struggle for Europe and its colonies (Exiled Stuart/Vatican-Funded Networks / Continuous from Papacy/Guelphs) vs. The Whig Supremacy (Hanoverian/Dutch/Genevian Bank of England/Grand Lodge Freemasonry / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines)
>>543521389Uh no. Persian 's [white]
>>543526866Corrected again :(Papacy / Guelphs) vs. (Holy Roman Empire / Ghibellines)• Black Guelphs (Total Papal Control) vs. White Guelphs (Regional Autonomy)Kingdom of Gwynedd (Welsh Independents / Continuous from Papacy/Black Guelphs) vs. Kingdom of England (Plantagenets / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines/White Guelphs)House of Lancaster (Red Rose / Continuous from Papacy/Black Guelphs) vs. House of York (White Rose / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines/White Guelphs)House of Tudor (English Crown / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines/White Guelphs) House of Stuart (Union of the Crowns)House of Stuart (Papal Backed/Tudor/White Rose / Continuous from Papacy/White Guelphs) vs. House of Hanover (The Guelphs/Red Rose Rosicrucians are back / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines/Black Guelphs)The Jacobite Underground Struggle for Europe and its colonies (Exiled Stuart/Vatican-Funded Networks / Continuous from Papacy/White Guelphs) vs. The Whig Supremacy (Hanoverian/Dutch/Genevian Bank of England/Grand Lodge Freemasonry / Continuous from HRE/Ghibellines/Black Guelphs)
>>543522004All lies. Ireland, so named because of King Ibbi from Ebla, was tamed by the O'Collins clan from Wicklow Mountains. Ireland and some of its people, the ones whom your disgusting ancestors didn't kill out of jealousy, is direct evidence of our history- as a species created by extraterrestrial beings.
>>543526882Yes.Finally.Have been waiting for the anons to realize this.The Iranian royal bloodlines intermarried into europe to become its dominant carrier, since the achemenid times of alexander.It requires actually studying the convergence of bloodlines and working them back to the 7 royal Iranian familes as well as the earlier and later houses.
>>543524727All lies to cover up the true history and lineage of Esus (Jesus) and his father, Joseph Ha-Rama-Theo ('Arimathea)' aka as Cu Chulainn and Cui Roy respectively.
>>543524949Lug = Atlantic ocean
>>543525018Lies, as told by the Scythians themselves
>>543527057IRANIC / INDO-IRANIAN DEEP RESERVOIR── STEPPE IRANIC WORLD ── SCYTHIAN / SAKA COMPLEX ── Pontic / Black Sea Scythians ── Royal Scythian traditions ── Scythian–Greek frontier populations ── Bosporan / Tanais contact zone ── Later steppe populations ── Sarmatian interaction ── SARMATIAN COMPLEX ── Sauromatian / early Sarmatian formations ── Roxolani ── Iazyges ── Alans ── Aorsi ── other Iranian-speaking steppe groups ── ALAN / ALANIAN ── North Caucasus ── Ossetian continuities ── Byzantine / Caucasian contacts ── Georgian royal marriages ── medieval Alan dynastic houses ── LATE ANTIQUE STEPPE CONVERGENCE ── Sarmatian ── Alan ── Gothic / Germanic ── Hunnic-period populations ── Chernyakhov / Sântana de Mureș zone ── Lower Danube / Black Sea corridor......
>>543526976Yes. The founders of the Aryan empire were the tribes of the Menesheh/Mendes-hei, the descendants of the Mani tribes of North Africa, vassals to the Hyksos dynasty of Ebla, Syria in Egypt. Hence Dublin = Eblana = "new Ebla." The trail will always go cold because the Aryan bloodlines of the Menesheh, mainly the Rusar ('Kievan Rus),' were murdered by their former Scythian slaves in the Holocaust and their identities stolen. One of the many reasons why people give up on history.
>>543527057── CAUCASIAN IRANIC / IRANIZED ARISTOCRATIC RESERVOIRS ── MIHRĀN / MIHRANID FIELD ── CHOSROID DYNASTIC FIELD ── Chosroid Georgia ── Caucasian princely networks ── Bagratuni connection ── SASANIAN / POST-SASANIAN ELITE FIELD ── Sasanian aristocracy ── Ispahbudhan ── Mihranids ── Iranian aristocratic houses absorbed into Armenian / Georgian political structures ── ARMENIAN ARSACID / PARTHIAN FIELD ── Arsacid Armenia ── Armenian princely houses ── Artsruni ── Taronite ── related nakharar houses ── KĀREN / PAHLAV ── Kāren ── Kāren-Pahlav ── KAMSARAKAN ── PAHLAVUNI ── Lampron ── Armenian-Cilician nobility── MIHRĀN / CHOSROID ── BAGratuni / GEORGIAN BAGratid FIELD ── Bagratuni ── BAGRATIONI ── Artsruni input ── Senekerim Artsruni ── Mariam Artsruni ── Bagrat IV
>>543521188yet another case of Jews coming up with bullshit tot try and make it seem like European originating people are not unique and the Jews somehow belong in the same category: you do not. Irish people get along with Scandinavians because they got the same mind set. (especially when drunk.)
>>543527308Respectfully, you couldn't possibly begin to comprehend how the Venetian-Magyar Khazars have corrupted history.
>>543526696This is the standard accepted Celtic expansion map, it's still followed in essence. Celts and Romans interacted with each other so much as the precursor to Germanics and other later ethnicities that in Wales they are referred to as Romano-Celtic, usually via France. This isn't really accepted in Ireland or Gaelic narratives because this role is fulfilled by Catholicism, going back to the point of this thread.
── ALAN INPUT ── Borena of Alania ── Bagrat IV ── Giorgi II ── David IV ── Burdukhan of Alania ── Giorgi III ── Tamar ── David Soslan ── Tamar ── Giorgi IV ── POST-TAMAR BAGRATIONI ── Giorgi IV ── David VII Ulu ── Demetre II ── Giorgi V ── David IX ── Bagrat V ── Constantine I ── Alexander I ── Demetre ── Constantine II ── Bagrat Mukhranbatoni ── HOUSE OF MUKHRANI
>>543521343"Iberian"/"Hispanic"/"Portuguese"/"Italian": that's "latin" origin, Italians have their own category each is under "Mediterranean European." rather than a "North African"/"Middle Eastern."
───────────────────────────────────── ▼ EUROPEAN RECONVERGENCE ── ROMANOV ── Tatiana Constantinovna Romanova × Konstantine Bagration-Mukhransky ── Vladimir Kirillovich Romanov × Leonida Bagration-Mukhrani ── Maria Vladimirovna × Franz Wilhelm of Prussia ── George Mikhailovich
── WITTELSBACH / BAVARIA ── Maria de las Mercedes of Bavaria and Bourbon × Irakli Bagration-Mukhrani ── HOHENZOLLERN / PRUSSIA ── Franz Wilhelm × Maria Vladimirovna
── ARMENIAN / MELITENE CORRIDOR ── Gabriel of Melitene ── Morphia ── JERUSALEM BRANCH ── Melisende ── Amalric I ── Isabella I of Jerusalem ── Alice of Champagne ── Lusignan ── Brienne ── Enghien ── Luxembourg-Ligny ── Jacquetta of Luxembourg ── WOODVILLE ── TUDOR ── STUART ── later British / European dynastic matrix ── ANTIOCH / CYPRUS BRANCH ── Alice of Jerusalem ── Constance of Antioch ── Bohemond III ── Bohemond IV ── Henry of Antioch ── Hugh III of Cyprus ── Guy of Cyprus ── Hugh IV of Cyprus
── KĀREN / PAHLAV ARMENIAN-CILICIAN ── Kāren / Kāren-Pahlav ── Kamsarakan ── Pahlavuni ── Shahandukht Pahlavuni × Oshin II of Lampron ── Hethum III ── Constantine of Lampron ── Hethum IV ── Alice of Lampron ── IBELIN ── Balian d'Ibelin ── Guy d'Ibelin ── Alice d'Ibelin × Hugh IV of Cyprus ── JAMES I OF CYPRUS ── Janus ── Anne of Cyprus × Louis I of Savoy ▼ SAVOY── ARMENIAN / CAUCASIAN WESTERN EUROPE ── MELITENE ── ARTSRUNI ── TARONITE ── SIWNIK ── KHACHEN / HASAN-JALALIAN ── BAGratid ── BAGRATIONI ── other Caucasian princely reservoirs
>>543522004>>543521188all these myths are complete nonsens and cope by the irish to try and be "exotic" and "different" from the english. In reality they are just western hunter gatheres that got conquered by wave after wave of anatolian slash and burn farmers and in turn by bell beakers/celts. they are a lsightly different flavor of english/scottish/welsh
>>543527483Wrong. O'Collins = Holly/Holy = Holly Grail
>>543527527take your meds
>>543521454interesting map, christians are all split up, catholics are split, but islam isnt?
>>543527561Suck a dick
>>543527564Islam is a violent religion that conquers those it can't control and beheads those that resist. you should know this already. they are animals.
>>543527595funny how all DNA evidence and research doesnt support any of this lmfao
>>543527483They are from some old books the Irish wrote, like their myth Bible. They were made up in 1000 AD but that's pretty fucking old, enough to be taken seriously. They explain the origins of Irish people and who they interacted with and still do if you look at a map, but they are relevant because it does this without any religious Catholic connotation, so would be especially relevant to Americans who are mostly Protestant but Irish. From that you get we wuzzing and a focus on the pagan parts of Ireland, such as the obsession with leprechauns and Halloween. There are actual myths that explain these things which are common knowledge in Ireland that are from these books. The main one is the Book of Invasions (Lebor Gabála Érenn).
>>543527390Respectfully, its mostly Venetian/Genevian bankers, and jews have been in the middle.The have been used by both sides, and have tried to use both sides.Since the stuarts and jacobites especially, but still, they are a contested faction.The jacobites through the jesuits and other factional vehicles have been fighting against the central banking cabal of a combined jewish, Genevian, Dutch, English system, and israel is really neither sides power bloc, since israel has been contested since its creation, in particularly by the British Empire, which is also contested, like every system really.And the khazars weren't just jews, the were a fusion of sarmatians, sythians, and various other tribes and peoples that ended up comverting to judaism, like the romans and arabs and iranians in Caucasus did in 200 ad with Christianity.
>>543527669Funny, how it does, particularly in the remaining O'Collins/Collins bloodline and the CCR5 Delta-32 receptor defect from the Nile River plague. Go on, look it up, I'll wait.
>>543527683myths and old books dont mean shit. There has been loads of genetic research done on irish and all the evidence points to what i said earlier.
>>543527683Irish folktales weren't "invented in 1000AD" just like the Icelandic or Norse tales weren't, they were recorded down at that point because they were mainly oral traditions, just like Kalevala being a Karelian/Finnic oral tradition that was shared through song and poetry memorized by wise women/bards because writing wasn't common place.
>>543527613>Islam is a violent religion that conquers those it can't control and beheads those that resist. you should know this already. they are animals.that has nothing to do with the map. are you a bot?
>>543527797it has everything to do with the map retard, sunni and shia split and aggression is exactly because of the disagreement between which successor has the right lineage to rule. they also wage internal schisms constantly. just because they have a "over-all-population-as-same" standard doesn't mean they aren't divided in nature radically.
>>543527734Look at my replies instead of conveniently ignoring them.Major genetic studies led by Dr. Daniel Bradley of Trinity College Dublin and Professor Bryan Sykes of Oxford University completely reshaped what we know about Irish origins,• The Paternal Lineage (Y-DNA): Up to 78% to 98% of Irish men (especially in western regions like Connacht) carry an ancestral Y-chromosome signature (Haplogroup R1b).• The Exact Match: The closest genetic match for this specific, dominant Irish DNA signature is found in Northern Spain, specifically the Basque country and Galicia.• The Maritime Route: DNA reveals that the primary populating of Ireland did not come from Central European "Celts" overland. Instead, it came via ancient maritime routes out of the Iberian Peninsula, mirroring the Milesian voyage from Spain recorded in the myths.
>>543527708Again, with respect, you have to keep perspective as to what we're discussing. We're referring to the "Holy Grail," yes? The history of the 'Chosen People.' There is ample evidence to suggest that this was not some gold cup, but a bloodline of people who were considered Divine Priest-Kings, Druids. When you find out the truth of history, that Neolithic Ireland became a frozen cannibalistic hellscape, where all of the animals died off; and that one particular tribe of hunter-gatherers refused to cannibalize their fellow man, instead opting to consume poisonous European Holly berries, gaining wisdom, insight and euphoria and also staving off hunger - hence their name, "Collins" - then all of the bullshit dissipates. They have been trying to cannibalize and consume the identity of the "Holly" of Wicklow for millennia. There is no other reason I'd take the time to tell you this unless I'd scruples about it. O'Collins = "Holly/Holy" = "Holly Grail"
>>543527912Now do Irish-Americans. The official backstory of the Republic of Ireland is that there was a genocide so all the actual Irish people left for America. The people in Ireland now may not be the same as they were.
>>543527876This isnt even controversial, ancient populations traded by sea, especially in bronze agee. Isn't R1b dominant across all of the UK ?sharing a bit of dna with celts from spain (like everyone in the british isles DESU) is very different than : HUR DUR WE BE TROJANS N SHIEEET
>>543521188next question, what branch of Greeks are the Philistines, and how was moses born 500 years before them but have to go around them in the bible?
>>543527993Its R1b-L21, not just a vague R1b if you didn’t know the difference.
>>543528180>R1b-L21,wow so unique, the irish truly are different. they are peaceful elven like creatures that are one with nature. totally not just from the same stock as other western europeans. shamus hold my beer while i tell another story about how we descnended from egyptians and built the pyramids. Those evil english robbed us of our identity!
>>543528263And R1b-P312
>>543528280>R1b-P312
>>543527564probably a delusional sunni made the mapstreet shitters in Oman are also concerning>Hinduism is the second-largest religion in Oman, making up about 5.5% of the population with roughly 260,000 adherents, largely consisting of Indian expatriates alongside a small indigenous Hindu merchant community with roots dating back to the 17th century.
>>543525538>came from Greater Scythia, lived in Spain for a long time, and then sailed to Britain. It’s the exact same migration itinerary as the Irish Milesian myth (Mil Espaine).OG celtic expansion or visigoths?>>543526696Wtf am I reading? Original (and later) celtic migration passed through Romania way before romanian ethnogenesis and anything being called vlach or wallachia.Wlach means latin speaker in slavic languages, Italy is Wlochy in polish. Later it also got the meaning of shepherd in slavic lands that had contact with romanian shepherd clans. There is indeed a theory the word has celtic origins.The homeland of roma gypsies is northwest India, their language is classified as a gujarati dialect and genetics point that way too.
>>543528419m8 this whole thread is filled with we-wuzzing irish larpers that havnt taken their schizo meds.
>>543527308 this is the start>>543527343 this is the caucuses >>543527410 this is the alans
>>543527438 this is the reconvergence. >>543527450 continues >>543527468 Armenia corridor>>543527478Here is the Iranian aristocratic embedded into European royalty
>>543528478CCR5-Delta32, anything?
>>543528419I'm saying how Romania is peceived in Britain, or rather Victorian Britain and before. Transylvania, Romanichal, Wales and from that Scotland and from that Scythian. It was never properly elaborated on but Celtic issues rarely were, partly because Wales was monolingual in Welsh and didn't speak English at all until early 20th century. They are partly myths but then one may ask where Bram Stoker got his idea from that now defines your country in the wider world. If it's made up then blame the Britonic Celts. In Romania none of these things are relevant or have the same connotations.Wlach having the same root as Latin is because of >>543527399 again this association with Celticness is strictly in Britain and may not make much sense from the outside.Maybe the Brtionic Celtic is made up gypsy bollocks and the Gaels are the correct ones. The independence movements certainly believe that.
>>543521188its the other way around i already told you CELTS MADE IT TO GREECE stop sniffing glue
>>543527951Bingo!
SCYTHIAN / SAKA SARMATIAN ROXOLANI • IAZYGES • AORSI ALAN / OSSETIAN CAUCASUS ─────────────Mihrān ArmenianChosroid Arsacid/Kāren Bagratuni Kamsarakan Bagrationi Pahlavuni Alan input Lampron Tamar Ibelin× David Soslan Cyprus Mukhrani Savoy ─Romanov ─Bourbon ─Wittelsbach ─Este/Modena ─Hohenzollern─Central Europe ────── EUROPEAN MATRIX Melitene Jerusalem ─Lusignan Brienne Enghien Luxembourg Woodville Tudor STUART ─Antioch Cyprus SavoyMODEL:Iranic steppe + Iranian dynastic+ Armenian/Caucasian + Alan repeated marriage, migration,absorption & dynastic recombination European royal/aristocratic networks.
Reformatted:IRANIC / INDO-IRANIAN WORLD── SCYTHIAN / SAKA ── SARMATIAN ── Roxolani ── Iazyges ── Aorsi ── ALAN / OSSETIAN── MIHRAN / CHOSROID ── BAGratuni BAGRATIONI ── Alan marriages ── Tamar × David Soslan Bagrationi MUKHRANI ── ROMANOV ── WITTELSBACH / BOURBON ── HOHENZOLLERN── KĀREN / PAHLAV Kamsarakan Pahlavuni Lampron Ibelin Cyprus Anne of Cyprus × SAVOY ── Bourbon ── Este / Modena ── Central-European houses── ARMENIAN MELITENE Morphia Jerusalem ── Lusignan Brienne Enghien Luxembourg Woodville Tudor STUART ── Antioch Cyprus Hugh IV Ibelin James I SavoyRECONVERGENCE:Iranic steppe + Iranian dynasties Armenian/Caucasian aristocracy Byzantium / Crusader states / Cyprus Savoy / Stuart / Bourbon / Romanov European royal & aristocratic matrix
>>543527416Latin is an Italian tribe that founded Rome.Not Hispanic or portuguese or iberian.
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>>543528419>>543528609You also correctly point the Roma actually come from India. Guess which country also ruled India for some time that could put all these together into one big larp.
greek explorers existed, fragments survived and obviously no one reported anything greek in the atlantic as is commonly agreed upon.the reverse case of people following celtic traditions arriving in greece is documented too.
Make sure to save a study my compiled aristocratic genograms I've mapped out.>>543528542 Compiled, very small compression for getting into the subject>>543528692 Full pack ½>>543528553 Rest of ½ pack.
>>543529098Fucked it up, you guys can figure it out, im tired. European royalty is old indo iranian bloodlines that have been fighting over each other for control over everything.
>>543521188Italy was the home of the italic peoples in pre-roman era, who were Absolute savages that made Conan the Barbarian's Cimmerians look like pussies. These tribes were often at odds with greek colonists, with many considering them as either invaders to be exterminated, or a good raiding target. I figure Aeneas planned to unite the quarrelsome tribes against the green colonists and then organizing them into a gigantic horde which would have razed Greece to the ground. If that's the case, he ultimately achieved this goal long after his death through Rome. Too bad Diocletian, a filthy greek supremacist, had to ruin everything. Greeks are discount jews and should all be holocausted. They even look like the typical jew.
>>543521188I think one of the waves of invasion was Greek in origin, maybe the Nemedians. I can't remember. Anyway I think they were fleeing an army or something, it's been a while since I read an Leabhar Gabhála na h'Éireann. Remember that Gaelic is an old language and there was that study done with ai modeling that apparently showed it originated in the west... The ancient history of Ireland is fucking insane and get's more confusing the more you look into it. When I was digging the foundation of my first house we hit some archeological relics that were dated at 3,500 bc. Who the fuck knows what was going on here, one thing is for probable, it was frequented by peoples fleeing larger forces and raiders preying on thier outposts, a constant blood bath for thousands of years.
Bump>>543528542 This is the start of Part 1 of the European aristocratic map and their ancient royal linages>>543528553 This is the other half of the tree.And here is compressed format for quick study.IRANIC / INDO-IRANIAN WORLD── SCYTHIAN / SAKA── SARMATIAN── Roxolani── Iazyges── Aorsi── ALAN / OSSETIAN── MIHRAN / CHOSROID── BAGratuni BAGRATIONI── Alan marriages── Tamar × David SoslanBagrationi MUKHRANI── ROMANOV── WITTELSBACH / BOURBON── HOHENZOLLERN── KĀREN / PAHLAVKamsarakan PahlavuniLampron Ibelin CyprusAnne of Cyprus × SAVOY── Bourbon── Este / Modena── Central-European houses── ARMENIAN MELITENEMorphia Jerusalem── Lusignan Brienne EnghienLuxembourg Woodville Tudor STUART── Antioch Cyprus Hugh IVIbelin James I SavoyRECONVERGENCE:Iranic steppe + Iranian dynastiesArmenian/Caucasian aristocracyByzantium / Crusader states / CyprusSavoy / Stuart / Bourbon / RomanovSave everything.
>"noooo you cant be a white country that hates kikes"shove it, schlomo
>>543521188YOUR MOTHERS CUNT STINKS LIKE CARPET CLEANER
