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Day 1,679 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research

▶Latest
>Tu-95MS bomber crash in Amur, six dead
>russian government 10 year bonds hit all time low
>250 russian POWs taken after Azov troops routed russian troops out of Northern Lyman during Operation Vivaldi.
>putin signs a decree mogilization an additional 1million soldiers to die in Ukraine.
>Ukrainian soldiers have delivered 4 tonnes of food by drone to Oleshki
>Reports of starvation deaths are emerging from Oleshky at the occupied part of Kherson region of Ukraine
>Lavrov holds first meeting with German Foreign Minister
>Strikes in Voronezh, Ulyanovsk, Luhans'k, sPerm, Bryansk
>Another warning about a potential russian attack on Europe, this time from Danish intelligence
>CIA warns of a russian drone attack against Spain, France or Italy
>Samara refinery strike
>Ufa refinery strike
>Mosquew authorities didn't initiate alerts during the raid to "ensure election attendance"
>Ukraine launched over a thousand drones at mosquew, setting the refinery ablaze and killing at least 3 rusniggers
>Ukraine’s 3rd Army Corps recaptures 125 sq km in "Operation Vivaldi" in Donetsk
>Third Army Corps paralyzed the russian elite unit "Rubicon" in Lyman
>Ukraine reveals 'Operation Vivaldi' counterattack near Lyman

▶Telegram
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t.me/Exilenova_Plus
odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)
ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)
▶Maps
deepstatemap.live/en
liveuamap.com/en
▶russian confirmed KIA
hochuvernut.com
200.zona.media/
poteru.net/en/
▶An illustrative article for understanding the "kill zone" in Ukraine's front lines
reuters.com/graphics/UKRAINE-CRISIS/KILL-ZONE/znpnojmknvl/
▶/uhg/-approved vidya
deepstatemap.live/arcade/
▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)
TOURS 1-4: files.catbox.moe/19avc9.zip
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Magdump ziggers, zigger shills and their zigger children.
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>>543531906
based moderate
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TOTAL
Zigger
DEATH
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1679 days into the russia's 3 day SMO
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>>543532004
Who knew drones wont just disintegrate from small arms fire
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Anyone invading Europa deserves to be skinned alive.
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>>543532319
you will soon
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TZD
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>>543532343
Don't squeal.
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Look at this nigger stealing a kill from the brave Ukrainian warrior.
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>>543532004
Do they receive any training at all? Hiding behind a tree from a weapon that can easily move around in all dimensions except time? 3 ziglets. If they took firing positions and did their best against the little thing, it would have been down. Retarded.
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>>543532004
sick triple kill saved
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If Russia is so weak, why is it winning?
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>>543532493
May we see that win?
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>>543532530
here
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>>543532530
New lands.
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>>543532616
You mean the ones, where 2 of the 4 capitals aren't even controlled by Russia?
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>>543532493
>>543532616
Jos nyt tällä kertaa tappaisit ittes, ryssä?
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>>543531906
uh based department?

TzD btw
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>>543532697
>It's not a land war, it's an oblast capital war.
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Yes, we lost millions of people, destroyed the economy and our future but at least the country is 3% bigger.
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>>543532493
5 years of winning later...
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>measuring victory in occupied square meters while your front is about to be routed in Lyman direction and those who havnt surrendered are running back behind the Zherebets as fast as their malnourished legs allow them
Delicious
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>>543532773
>oblast capital war
Putin made it one. 4 years ago today he signed Kherson and Zaporizhzhia into Russia. One capital he never reached, the other he ran from. August pace per ISW: 2.9 km2/day. Rest of Ukraine at that rate: ~450 years. Some win, ryssä.
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When will the gulagdina stop printing?
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>>543532811
i was gonna say add "intl relations", but rasha didnt rly have much of those to begin with
and even then, they do somehow still have even less now than when they started
impressive
huge geostrategic win for the motherland
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>>543532445
Training costs money and resources that can be stolen.
So: No.
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>>543532872
Russia has built its economy to withstand anything the West tries to throw at it. It only needs to wait for the arrogance of western elites to collapse on itself, which is quite close since pro-Russia parties have never been more popular in Germany and France.
It's ovyir.
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>>543532445
>Do they receive any training at all?
Two weeks of it, was the last think I read. They're recon-by-death troops, so it doesn't really matter anyway. They're there genuinely just to die.
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>>543532918
>while your front is about to be routed in Lyman direction
Russia started mobilizing. The situation will stabilize soon as they feed more meat into the grinder.
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>>543533081
>Germany and France will save the russia
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>>543532957
as i understand it, at this, point the debt is basically being printed by russias MIC, itself. very similar to an 80s USSR kinda situation (where iirc ~ half the GDP was just the military paying for itself to get blown up by hajis out in the mts). so its almost completely out of her hands. even as a central bank, shes just there to sign off on the loan. she knows the whole bank is bust anyways, so it hardly matters if you pfffffttt out a couple zillion more rubbles. none of it is real anyway. russia is an exit scam
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>>543532493
If by winning you mean ethnically replaced then yes they are winning
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>>543533133
genuinly tho, what does that change? They can't mass troops in a drone saturated environment, even if they have the reserves. All they can do with a mobilisation is prolonging their shitty slower-than-snail infiltration tactics. They would still have no path to victory. Why even bother?
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>>543532004
Imagine coddling together behind a single tree like homosexuals, while you could do a funny trick called D I S P E R S E. Just fucking run into different direction. It's a kamikaze drone, it can't explode three times in a row. One of you might die, but the other will survive. Didn't pick any WWII book? Literally one hundred years old idea at this point. Alas, ziggers exist only in the present, no concept of the past, or the future - and their "history" is castrated like most of the /chug/.
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>>543533272
They don't know any better. Monke doesn't know any better. He is completely in the dark about the situation. He believes that making one massive meat grinder push would bring him victory.
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>>543533277
imagine writing all that with that pic attached while you hide in a land of bog scrubbers to avoid being snatched off the streets
creasing ngl
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>>543532493
>5 years later
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>>543533272
>All they can do with a mobilisation is prolonging their shitty slower-than-snail infiltration tactics.
Yeah, that's the point. Keep the war going instead of losing it outright.
Putin might get to live out his natural lifespan instead of being defenestrated. Russia might get to maintain some level of relevance on the world stage, instead of losing parts of itself to independence movements or China.
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>>543533392
>nnnnooooOOOOOOO EVERY POLE LIKES the russia! THEY DON'T LAUGH AT DRONE VIDEOS! THEY DON'T VIEW OUR DEATH AS ENTERTAINMENT!! nnnnooooOOOOOOO MY NEOVAGINA
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>>543533346
>He is completely in the dark about the situation.
Nah that's bullshit. It's just a variation on the "czar good boyar bad" meme. "the boyar are the evil intermediary and keep the czar in the dark, if only he knew!" is typical imperial russian messianism and is 100% unrelated to reality.
I'm not ready to accept that putin doesn't know he's getting his army slaughtered. I am however ready to accept that it is a widely held belief among its serfs. I also think it is a belief Prigozhin held during his thunder run. Reality tho, he fucking knows, 100%
>>543533465
Yeah that's more like it I believe. Dude is just out of options at all and is waiting for death
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>>543532428
Thats a deny and its an intended mechanic.
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>>543533560
It's like jumping off the map to avoid giving your enemy ult charge
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>>543532428
>... Der Mönkë, we had lost the war. Ukrainians demand reparations
>... We need money to pay them off, sir
>Ook ook aa aa? (wanna see a funny trick?)
>vid related
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So how much time does Ukraine have left before Trump, LePen and Weidel lift sanctions on Russia and cut aid?
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>he thinks the AfD will still exist by 2029
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show flag, built for pidor cock
we get to humiliate you as much as we want, remember?
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>>543533560
So all those russkies that end up in cats and dogs are just smart who got denied by creeps
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>>543533133
>Russia started mobilizing. The situation will stabilize soon as they feed more meat into the grinder
I'm no strategist, but Ukraine is likely trying to push russia as far back as they can before the mud season. That forces russia to throw away another couple hundred thousand soldiers if they ever want to recapture the lost territory.
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>be Russian
>get arrested
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>>543533133
>Russia started mobilizing.
proofs?
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>>543534166
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>BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BUT I SAID ALL THE VATNIK LINES, WHY AM I GETTING ARRESTED?
because you're Russian, my goylem
>BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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lmao why turdies seething this morning?
i see coco active on the bussification front along with brazil nigger and jeet baker
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>>543534420
>I think the counteroink just failed since they all came at the same time lmao.
>Someone check the news
Cumchuggers wishcasting again.
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>>543532004
kek, they would've been better off taking position and taking shots at it
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why would you SA or grape your fellow comrade gulaghomo?
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so...now that russia has attacked nato, what is nato going to do? Have another meeting?
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>>543534587
Moldova isn't NATO though, shitskin.
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>>543534525
>news of counteroffensive appeared at the same time
>some even featuring captured soldiers
>that means the offensive fails

?????
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>>543534643
if the enemy kills you, you win
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>nobodys buying it, memoryhooooooled
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>>543534643
I think he's talking about the couple posters who are shitting on the russia in their hugbox. Another projection by chuggers. But yeah, for some reason these retards stopped looking at their mappers and are only counting what deepstate shows.
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>>543534738
Not as iconic as sims 3 to meme it even
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bros looks, we have free diesel too!
we have been russified
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>>543534772
i like how the agents look like theyve been squatting under a bridge
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>Omani alahu ackbar tries to crash a plane
>Ukrainian pilot safely lands a plane
>all zigger media makes up story that Ukrainian pilot tried to crash a plane
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>>543534738
I'm impressed by the advancements in the kubik manufacturing process.
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>>543534393
not a proper mobilization. just unfortunate sods getting press-ganged like we saw in Penza
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>>543534874
I am impressed by how russcattle join the cube out of love for their great boomer boss.
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>>543533133
>Russia started mobilizing.

Good to hear you admitting this, appreciated

>The situation will stabilize soon as they feed more meat into the grinder

There's significant choke point in equipping, training and delivery of new troops, and it has been never addressed. It only became worse, more dangerous, time consuming and hopeless to get glorified civilians to their designated death point. Mostly because of the new medium range drones Ukraine has from ~roughly this year April. They don't even die where they are supposed to die. Any uptake, amassing of troops can, and will be HIMARSed. It's not going to change a thing. Throwing bodies to solve a problem became outdated in this war.
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>>543534587
Well looks like we're ramping up to article 5
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>>543533974
DAAAAMN, FUCKIN BRUTAL
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>>543534938
you noticed how russian gallows humors are being appropriated into some hyper masculine stoic praises in the west?
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>>543532004
>>543531906
what the absolute fuck is happening in Poland /uhg/?
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>>543535007
>Good to hear you admitting this, appreciated
???
What are you even talking about?

>There's significant choke point in equipping, training and delivery of new troops, and it has been never addressed.
Most of those troops are trained for two weeks, only given a gun when they're sent to the front, and the purpose of them is to die. The infiltrators do not matter. They don't need to be turned into proper soldiers through six months of training. All they need to do is sneak forward, find a basement to hide in and then stay there.
>Throwing bodies to solve a problem became outdated in this war.
That's complete nonsense. Russia has been maintaining the war for multiple years purely by throwing more bodies at it.
It's the only reason why Ukraine hasn't already kicked Russia out of its country.
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>>543534587
>>543534642
If they didn't want to get attacked they should have considered joining NATO.
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>>543533974
D-D-DOUBLE KILL
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>>543533974
>Ukraine is likely trying to push russia as far back as they can before the mud season
nailed it, TzD
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>>543534587
>Moldova
>NATO
why are pidor shills so uneducated about the primary objects of their nightmares?
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What happens to Ukraine after the war is over?
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>>543535332
They're Indians and Nigerians. They don't know anything about Europe.
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>>543534587
I think the most probable next step is to declare Ukraine a no-fly zone, and shooting down every single ziggeroid aircraft/drone over the territory of Ukraine/Belarus. It feels like NATO is just waiting for a convenient excuse right now.
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>nigger behavior
this shits just deplorable
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>>543535204
A stalemate measured in one million of dead ziggers is far from what I would consider a feasible tactic. You just don't suffer WWI tier losses over so little, while your opponent visibly grows stronger and bolder.
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https://t.me/mobilizationnews/27039
>Coffin payments have been reduced tenfold in the Saratov Region.
>Regional authorities have reduced the one-time payment to the relatives of fallen servicemen from one million to 100,000 rubles. The new rules will take effect on November 1.
>At the same time, the region has introduced a contract payment for convicts, which is higher than the coffin payment. Officials prioritize luring more residents to war than supporting families whose men have been taken forever.
100k rubles = 1060€
this is the value the KGB has assigned to ziggers
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>>543534738
The visible asscrack makes it look extra professional
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>What happens to Ukraine after the war is over?
They get to rebuild their country with seized russian cash gibs and hear the lamentations of the russcattle.
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>>543532493
can you name one win?
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>>543535517
>100k rubles = 1060€
GRIM
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>>543535479
>A stalemate measured in one million of dead ziggers is far from what I would consider a feasible tactic.
It's a feasible tactic because it's what's keeping Russia in this war. That's all that matters. Russia still hasn't lost, so the tactic works and so it's worth it.
Lives of the common people, narodnost, in Russia, have no meaning outside of sacrificing themselves for the Tsar.
>You just don't suffer WWI tier losses over so little, while your opponent visibly grows stronger and bolder.
Of course you do. It's exactly what a dying empire like Russia does.
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>>543532225
>1679 days
Anon, that's mere 559.666666666666666666666666 x3 days.
Somehow, knowing ruZZkies and their inability to use human intelligence or maths, they won't learn nothing, never.

>Expecting to teach a monkey to play a piano?
Asians are just incapable, not build to learn, use rationale or common sense.

Silver lining?
>yes, they'll self destruct eventually
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>>543535517
If we assume that Russia has 11M fighting age men left, that means around 11B EUR total.
Not a bad price to pay to get rid of puccians once and for all.
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>>543535578
No RGD-5 Medevac? Shame.
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>>543535423
Hamas-Hezbollah tactics
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>>543535371
But Moldava isnt NATO and Orange Pedo is going to block wathever NATO decides to do in regards to Pidoria.
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>>543534393
But I thought Ukraine was the one who did this?
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>>543535578
What if he dove forward instead of trying to shoot a drone point blank?
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>>543534393
Nice new additions to busification.su
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>>543535987
He would have small holes in different areas of his lungs and would die slightly more tired.
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>>543536093
why do ziggers just stand around waiting to get hit? I can understand trying to shoot the drone but everytime ive seen a drone get shot down by a rifle it seems more like a lucky hit than something that can be done reliably. is darksouls rolling really that hopeless? was the ziggernaut the most enlightened russian?
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>>543534403
>got arrested because he called it a war
Kekaroo!
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>>543536756
>why do ziggers just stand around waiting to get hit
they are tired of being russian
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>>543537146
im tired of them being russian too
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>>543534393
>the entire bottom text
are they really this unaware?
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Why are there Russian men signing for the contract even today?
Are Russian wages really that bad?
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>>543537763
>are Russian wages really that bad
On paper no. Rosstat avg ~115k rub, but median is ~62-75k and way lower outside Moscow. Army pays ~200k/month plus sign-on bonuses up to 4.1M in KhMAO, 2.1M in dirt-poor Mari El. That's 4+ years of median pay upfront. Since May they also wipe up to 10M rub of court-enforced debt for you and your wife. Meanwhile wage arrears jumped 18.9% in August alone.
And recruitment still fell to ~800/day in Q1 despite record bonuses. It's not poverty, it's a buyout aimed at broke men in broke regions.
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>>543538301
oh and what a coincidence pvt contractovich that just so happens to be the exact amount it costs to bribe yourself out of being in a storm battalion.
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>>543537486
No, but people cannot speak up about this on their an offical channel without getting an express ticket to TZD-Town.
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>>543539265
And after 5 years I still haven't got used to it how surreal this is.
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>Tu-95MS bomber crash in Amur, six dead
Any Ukrainian action involved or just shitty Russian maintenance?

Glad they lost one more missile launcher at least.
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>>543531836

When will the uraine stop coping?
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>>543539834
Three of the four engines failed within 15 minutes after takeoff, likely due to bad fuel.
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>>543537763
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>>543539834
seems to be a victim of russian maintenance.it will happen again thats for sure.
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>>543535338
Going by historical comparisons, a huge party and a giant baby boom.
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>>543539996
>likely due to bad fuel.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA SNORT HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

time to blow up some more refineries then
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>>543539372
I for one knew for a very long time it would come to this
pidors hate being alive; being suicidal is what constitutes 90% of the Russian identity
they perceive death as a relief and gud friend
they're full blown Necrontyr
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>>543531906
>>543535182
I made a thread here to discuss the viral Poland video together
>>543540510
>>543540510
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>>543539996
Bath tub diesel is not a good replacement for aviation fuel.
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>>543540611
so which one are from the vid ?
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>>543540611
degeneracy happening in Poland just isn't much of a discussion worthy subject
that's like debating trimmed hedges in Germany, or suicide in Russia
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Why are they like this?
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>>543539996
thanks SK
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>>543540970
that's easy, just gotta know whose mind's child outer/pol/ really is (Lakhto-FSB of course)
cuck accusations are a traditional agitprop staple, have been for a very long time
commie legend says it was notably effective in the Korean war
Benzin dolls are just a figment of kraut fantasy btw they're definitely trad and not sucking benzin
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>>543539996
Probably yeah. The Tu-95 has independent fuel systems for each engine, so how else could 3/4 engines fail like that?
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>>543539372
they're just evil man
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>>543541408
^
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>>543541932
>>543541819
>>543541755
>>543541408
>>543541171
>>543540970
How does /uhg/ justify this?
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What blew up today? Russian shills are again sperging out in desperation.
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How does /chug/ justify this?
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>>543542145
>some dysfunctional mutant baby whose entire life is nothing but suffering, with zero chance of growing up as a functional adult
Almost every single aborted baby should have been allowed to live before this one was. There's no point in arguing against this case if you support abortion in general.
>In 2009, Russia reported 1.2 million abortions
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>>543542374
It's based and trad when russia does it, decadant westoids wouldn't understand))))))
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Corrected a map that was incorrectly labeled with mujik babble
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>>543537763
What do salaries have to do with it? A lot of people I know left because, like, this is Russian land and it needs to be taken back. Western countries present information very one-sidedly.
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4chan still slow or is it just me?
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The russia is a fake country.
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>>543542530
Anon...did you run it through an ai editor?
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>>543534738
what am I even supposed to be looking at, drugs or money?

>taping a printed meme of Zelensky on the packages is enough evidence to prove the HATO corruption scheme
lol, lmao even
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>>543534587
i wish that European leaders had more balls and respond properly to every bs that pyccia is pulling out
accidental drones crossing borders/crashing? extend the air defense like 50km into Ukrainian borders
bombed packages? do the same thing in mosquew
immigrant flood? hire mercenaries to harass pyccia at some remote border crossings
you catch the drift
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>>543532493
Is the winning in the room with us?
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>>543542499
>A lot of people I know left because, like, this is Russian land and it needs to be taken back.
Thankfully, those are exactly the kind of russians that need killing, so everything worked out just fine.
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>>543542575
1147 is the date of Moscow’s first mention in a chronicle, not its founding. Archaeology shows that a settlement on Borovitsky Hill already existed by the end of the 11th century. And Kyiv was not an “eternal” center. After 1240 it fell into decline, and its role passed to other cities (Vladimir, then Moscow).
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>>543542499
Speaking of land taken back, once russia collapses, all of the land muscowites stole will go back to their rightful owners. Königsberg to Germany/Poland, Karelia to Finland, Ossetia to Georgia, Haishenwai to china, and so on.
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>>543542145
>suffered from extensive, irreversible brain damage, severe cerebral palsy, intractable epilepsy, and profound respiratory and breathing complications.
poor little guy. very sad.
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>>543543334
Pretty sure an overwhelming majority of krauts don't wanna hold that bag. Just split Königsberg between Poland and Lithuania, drive the ocuupants into the sea, and declare it a nature preserve.
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>akchooly in 1147 the nose bone people did botovitsky existed
zigger history is bad fanfic
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>>543543662
the answer is to recreate prussia and regularly bomb it like gaza
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>>543542807
it was supposedly coke f being smuggled into russia... the russian twitter niggers were trying to spread it around last week
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>>543543767
that's actually a great idea anon
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lmao
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>>543543662
>Köniigsberg becomes the first real life experiment in seeing a city abandoned by humans and how nature would reclaim it
>Cameras with 24\7 live feeds showing fourth floor apartments with doves nesting in them
>Wild pigs and dogs foraging in the overgrown streets
>Occasional lynx hunting
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>>543543823
Sandnigger gangs put all sorts of shit on their produce. Gucci logos, Ferrari, even fucking Haaland.
Only zigger shills are dumb enough to believe this is proof of whatever the logos used are complicit in it.
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>>543543767
I like that idea. It's not like the russians living there could be any more miserable. They will just accept daily bombings as another day in the life of a russian. Before driving them into the sea they could also be given the humanitarian option of being given safe passage back to muscowia.
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>>543543334
My friends from abroad say that I have a bad life here because that’s what the media write. I tried to reason with them, but it seems common sense is not their strong suit. When I ask them how much they pay for utilities, they just get angry. This happens more often now, after they switched to European natural gas.
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>>543543823
Another Sims 3 moment,kek.
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>>543544020
Cool story, fag.
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the dropped it so hard lol
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>>543544023
Nah, it's this >>543543968
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>>543543219
>>543542575
Picrel.
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>>543534078
What did he do?
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>>543544357
Do?
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>>543544357
>be Russian
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>>543544357
voted against putin
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>>543544057
It’s hard to counter the phrase “I’m comfortable here, I’m fed, clothed, and content with my life” with any newspaper headline.
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>>543544526
>"I'm a chud I'm a chud I'm a fat little chud"
>"I got nothing to do, so I live with my mom"
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Its good russians are ready to die for putin in Ukraine because they shall.
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>>543544615
is that a nuclear weapon?
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>>543544357
He participated in a hoholywood movie.
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TZD
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>>543531836
>>543532120
>>543532004
>>543544615
>>543543987
>>543543930
>>543543662
>>543543184
>>543542701

They all support ukraine, dont they?

--------------> >>543522267
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>>543542499
>>543543219
>>543544020
>>543544526
RARE FLAG
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>>543544865
soon it'll be a meme flag
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>>543544057
Russian poetry really is peak
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>>543543930
russians are such stupid golems
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>>543545154
it isn't already?
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>>543544057
>stalactite of shit
my fucking sides. i burst out laughing whenever it was mentioned
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>>543544347
On the 1444 map, Kyiv is not the center of a separate large state. It is part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (the vast pink area), which controls the western Russian lands. This is exactly what I wrote: after 1240, Kyiv lost its status as capital and political hegemon.

In the center of the map we see a separate, already fairly large Grand Duchy of Moscow (the yellowish area). It does not merely exist; it is an independent political actor, gathering lands around itself. Under Ivan III (a greatly underrated ruler) and his successors, this potential would unfold to its full extent. Kyiv, by contrast, fell victim to geopolitics: the Mongol invasion of 1240, and then its passing under the rule of Lithuania and Poland. Its “eternity” ended tragically.
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cube status?
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>>543545440
perfectly honest, I'd still prefer Ukies to you if they were founded yesterday, on the principle of aesthetics alone
blue-yellow and the trident are incredibly cool; your colors and the two headed mutant rooster are the opposite, derivative and visually displeasing (no hard feelings toward the 100 other countries using them)
and Ukie language sounds sharper, more Slavic than yours; your soft ya ye yi sounds are very cute but also decidedly not yuropean sounding
you might think them an inferior version of yourselves but to a trve kraut who only ever perceives things in terms of property and utility, their culture is just a little bit better than yours
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>>543545336
They TRIED burning it with fuel on camera
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>>543545501
what's this TRADition called?
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>>543543823
thanks mate
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I have to say it's actually really sad how dead this general is. 6 hours and you can't even crack 200 posts? This would never happen at CHUG.
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>>543531906
He is wasting too many bullets
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>>543545501
>your country is engaged in what it's calling an "existential struggle"
>best use of your time is to torture a couple of uncs for shits and giggles
What really gets me about this is the fact that the russia is just a genuinely shit place to live in and white westoids still shill for it out of sheer contrarianness.
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>>543546255
bullets are cheap, it takes 18 years to grow another zigger orc, worth the investment
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>>543546199
Go there faggot
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>>543544347
>Nogay horde
And not it is Yesgay horde. The times sure are changing.
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>>543543219
I don't see any Russia on maps contemporary to that. Maybe you should just cease existing?
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>>543547045
On the maps of 1444 there is neither “Russia” nor “Ukraine” in the modern sense — just as many other present-day states are absent. There are the Grand Duchy of Moscow, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the Kingdom of Poland, the Golden Horde, and so on. Names and political entities change: some arise, others disappear, others change their name. If the absence of a familiar name on the map means for you the absence of a right to exist, then by that logic neither Ukraine, nor Poland, nor Germany in their present form existed.
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>>543544347
>nogay horde
they tried
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GOD BLESS OUR SHILS
SLAVA OOOINKRANI
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>>543544347
Has any other place on Earth had the cluster fuck that central Europe was at this time period?



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