>he's doing conscriptionLmao
It is pretty pointless in the era of modern warfare to be quite honest.
>>543537353They’ll never conscript my assI’m a person with autonomyI swear allegiance to nobody!
>>543537355I won't call you tranny anymore
>>543537354yeah we'll just end up DRONED in some ukrainian field
>>543537352We have this thing called a "qualification" where they send you to a doctor to determine how useful you will be. Retard or not you are going into the meat grinder anyway.
>>543537352yeah i did unfortunately, but it was only 9 months. if i was born a couple yeas later i would've missed it
>>543537354This was everyones opinion until 2022
>>543537353>Both sex>never sexed Fake map
>>543537360Nothing has really changed, we'd still be best served with a smaller core of specialists.
>>54353735236 year old unc here. I was one of the very last who had to go to the conscription office and was rendered "not fit for service" :^)
>>543537360I couldn't care less if Russia invade my shithole tomorrow. I'm french italian and I like it because they are great cultures, lit, food, etc... But patriotism? Yeah no, i didn't choose to be born here, why should I kill a Ivan
>>543537364Yeah Western and Southern Euros don't care and never will. Self inflicted refugee problems caused this
>>543537352It was fun desu
>>543537363based
>>543537362That "core of specialists" will no longer exist after 6 months of a proper conventional war
>>543537368We have much more defensible terrain than you.
Military was FUN and best time of my life>free food>free housing>free clothing>get to shoot guns>camping with the boys in the woods>get to blow shit up>ride in military vehicles>working out and getting FIT>less shouting and more relaxed than at homewhat more can you ask for?
>>543537370Conscription in shithole countries like South Korea isn't fun, I've read stories of South Korean conscripts being bullied a lot in the military, and conscription there is for TWO years, two years of your life wasted there earning meagre pay.
>>543537369I don't think that drones care about terrain much.
>>543537352>conscripts
I have polish dual citizenship, I am not getting conscripted, right??
>>543537371Why did your cunt abolished it so early?
>>543537375idk maybe there was enough navy volunteers?
>>543537352When the times comes, red chads will destroy the blue sissies. Never underestimate the superiority of a battle-ready population over a sissified population who never held a gun in their lives
>>543537377heads up !
>>543537377Someone post the suicide trigger guards and the roach getting tortured, I'm tired of dealing with them
conscription has not been abolished in poland, it's been halted. technically we still have it.
>>543537377Ah yes the mighty power of *looks at map* shitholes.Most concscripts I know did shit all day and basically were drunk 24/7.
IMC we love it and many who do not get selected become very sad
>>543537369Good for you that's it's mostly mountains for your country, but that won't stop the drones, since they combine the versatility of attack helicopters, lethality of ATGMs and the price point where you can afford tens of millions of them a year.
>>543537380This is true for most countries that "abolished" it.
>>543537373>hi, matt easton from schola gladiatoria here
>>543537378the only reason Ukraine could halt the russian armored advances and could rapidly create a large army using drones is that they had conscription before the war
>>543537352map is out of date we reintroduced it some years ago some zoomers on this board have already gone through it>>543537354it's absolutely critical if you ever fight a real war (country actually in danger). it's pointless for sandbox adventures, true.
>>543537386so how are things going in Latvia
>>543537388we're fucked regardless because we don't have the numbers even if conscription was done to a serious degree
>>543537352I was conscripted only 10 days which was okay time for me>>543537353I think it would suck more to have that partly conscription where only some og men are forced to it, like imgine being one of those unlucky ones that are conscripted when all your pals are free. T
F I'll get conscripted in a few months for 9-12 months
>>543537352Germany is reintroducing it
lmao imagine getting mogilized, couldn't be me
>>543537391Rip freek bro
>>543537391Εἰς μάχην, oπλίτης
>>543537370>Military was FUN and best time of my lifeFor me, it was one of the worst experiences. I was locked up like a prisoner for a year, no electronics, nothing, surrounded by low-IQ retards.I also had a girlfriend, and after six months, she found another guy and only told me after I finished "my" duty.But this did teach me a valuable lesson - both women and the government hate you, so you have no duty towards them, it's all fake, made-up bullshit.
The times have changed.It was 25 years in Russian Empire then 5 years at the end of the Empire, then 2 years in USSR and now it's 1 year.
>>543537397>It was 25 years in Russian Empireeven for serfs ? who took care of the farms
>>543537398They didn't took everyone. Each year or few years the serf-peasant commune provided 2-3 people or so from the village.Some even went willingly, because there were no much land to give from the commune to young people in the 19th century (in western part of Russia obviously) and army meant that they could get money and be well fed.
>>543537352We got conscription back this year.
>>543537400For Croatian women too?
>>543537396>she found another guy and only told me after I finished "my" duty.typical military experience
>>543537396I don't want to hate women, but the world forces me to do so.
Conscription works if it’s done in a society that makes giving away some of your time worth it. There’s definitely more patriotic mindset here than the average country, but peer pressure and the mindset of ”if I had to so should they” are also large factors. And you can only get so much out of a soldier whose only reason to be there is that they were forced to, both during peace and conflict.
>>543537353We should have a better conscription system. They could teach warfare skills and work skills useful for civilian life, instead of making them paint sidewalks and cut grass. Every year there should be some refresher training
>>543537352Awful picture. Ours is not mandatory these days but it is in Finland
I didn't know we ever had conscription honestly
>>543537354>>543537362thats why ukraine isn't forcing people into the army or somethin>>543537360this
>>543537360>everyonesNo it wasn't
>>543537354>>543537362>>543537369Dude wake up, it's not 2010 anymore. Mass is an irreplaceable metric
>>543537352slaves in red, free men in blue
No draft since boomers.
Westoids should focus on drone and rocket manufacture and send those to whoever is fighting of Russian imperialism at the moment. Way better RoI. Everyone can live, war-free, if the fuckwads can't destabilize the continent and know they'll get buried by munitions, if they try anything.
>>543537413Drones and missiles are the way. Yet our retarded government spent half the budget on fr*nch made frigates.
>>543537377Too bad the red countries mostly fight by themselves while blue fags are busy sucking nigger cock
>>543537397>>543537398before 1802 military in the Austrian Empire literally could take you to serve a lifetime, although de facto it meant 25 years (about between 17 and 40), later it was 15 years, then 8 years then 3 years plus 12 years reserve duty during Austria-Hungary, now its about a year maybe, depending on what the government decides in its reform
>>543537416i believe that was a tradition inherited from the Roman Empire which customarily had 25 years of military service
>>543537416gott schutze den kaiser !
>>543537411>slaves in red, free men in bluetrue.t. draft dodger
>>543537397It was for life, originally.
>>543537417maybe a sort of revival, but less likely inherited, there was no conscription as such during feudal times, just the local lords gathering some of their peasants and companions to the monarchs war effort
>>543537397Most countries imperial period was the absolute worst for the avarage citizen. It’s only current day armchair general chuds obsessed with map painter rts games that glorify them. I guess 19th century colonialism worked out pretty good for the French and British being the only exception. For everyone else it was lifetime conscription and countrysides being reclaimed by the forrest
>Medieval Europe warfare was small-scale; armies numbered a few hundred to a few thousand men and territory seldom changed hands through war. Marital alliances were the main way of acquiring territory. It was not until the age of Louis XIV that vast armies and large scale warfare returned. For contrast, the Islamic empires and China during this period maintained vast armies.[9]
>>543537423Europe couldn’t support very large populations at the time. We were agrimogged
>>543537423Smaller professional armies is much more kino. It also gives your noble class something to do other than fucking the country up, they all train for war and gain more prestige/land that way.
>>543537424you, especially
>>543537423and most of that was sub-kingdom level, dope
>>543537352A relative of mine was responsible(at least partially) for conscription ending in my cunt.
>>543537426Mad to think Paris was one of the biggest and most important cities on the continent with 30k people
>>543537429Paris had 300k people in the early 14th century, it wasn't that small.
Most people on /pol/ wouldn't even be fit for drafting: a lot of lazy fat slobs with unhealthy lifestyles and zero exercise done
>>543537504Extremely rapid growth over that one century then. It had 30k people in 1200AD
>>543537605Don't worry, they will lower the standards, when they need you as cannon fodder.
>>543537352Sweden started with conscriptions in the early 1800. During 2010 it was put on hold due to peace time and brought back 2017.
>>543538331Sorry Oleg but I have ADHD so basically disabled and useless for combat
>>543537417>i believe that was a tradition inherited from the Roman Empire which customarily had 25 years of military serviceRoman 25 years military service was voluntary
>>543539066>Sorry Oleg but I have ADHD so basically disabled and useless for combatyou can be a great drone/sniper bait with your ADHD
>>543539066Let me give you a piece of advice. In war, people like you and other disabled people are thrown as meatbags to die,because you are a burden to the state. Its why in Ukraine and Russia they conscript prisoners, old men and down syndrome people. Sorry bro, they are coming for your ass.
>>543538331>Don't worry, they will lower the standards, when they need you as cannon fodder.just like they are doing in penza oblast.
>>543537354Most military personnel are logistics and support utility. Actual fighting units are like 1/5th of that. Conscripts will be the Santa's little helpers for the contract soldiers or deployed for peacekeeping and civvie evacuation.
>>543537352Conscription is not abolishedIts just paused in here
>>543537372Oh yeah they absolutely do. You can’t fly FPV drones reliably into deep valleys without exposing yourself. It’s also a matter of logistics. A short 50km drive can take hours in certain areas. I know it’s hard to comprehend for a steppenigger hybrid like you but you’d stand no chance with your mad max ass military.
>>543537352The north of Ireland never had conscription either.
>>543537355Just become ladyboy.
>>543537370because you were a conscript in yuropeoutside of yurope its hellmy service was quite ok, reserve ex have been more chill
>>543537354>>543537362conscription is to make people somewhat familiar with military life so they don't have to start totally from scratch when shit hits then fan
>>543539566My ADHD powers will make me find a brilliant way to avoid the draft. Also i think they will not draft railway workers
>>543537352so let me get this straight, in sweden you have to serve in the military, but you still need to allow migrants to come to your country? Do women serve in the same capacity as men?
>>543540624I work with boilers so I hope I don't get drafter either,lol.
>>543537364Based. You are ruled by masters you have not chosen. Worst case scenario you will be under russian occupation instead of EU occupation. Will it be worse? Probably yes. Does it worth dying for or losing limbs for this? Fuck no. If russians occupy us tomorrow I just don't care I will take my chances under their rule than fight and die for globohomo.
>>543539894> Norwegian nigger teaching war to a Russian and to a Ukrainian lmao, please learn some humility