There's no stopping this. Eventually, either in 10 years or 30 years, all cars and trucks sold worldwide will be electric. The petrodollar will collapse long before that.
*All cars in regions where driving 500+ miles in a day is uncommon.Europoors don't realize how far apart things are here.
>>543538676....And yet they're still drilling for oil and just an announced another new big offshore project...
Does that actually work when your country is mostly white?
>>543538749Are you typically driving 500+ miles daily?
>>543538749This. Look up studies of EV owners saying they will buy a second EV or go back to ICE.There is a direct correlation to the size of the country they live in. Anything smaller than Germany or France, people favor EVs. Those two countries are the break-even point. Anything bigger, people prefer ICE.
>>543538749Most people on earth don't drive 500+ miles a day
>>543538841Yes. I have a 9 hour commute. Very common here.
>>543538841Maybe I wanna go to the beach for weekend.
>>543538676Im pretty conservative, but I'm all for electric vehicles and more bike lanes. We can't have a. polite, orderly society here as we have been saddled with too many third world animals.
>>543538749Very, very, very few Americans are driving 500+ miles a day. It doesn't mean nobody is, but it is not the norm. At all.Unless you are specifically referring to long-haul truck drivers, in which case I don't think over-the-road trucking is switching to electric any time soon.
>>543538676Oil is the only thing feeding half the population; or rather fertilizer made from oil. Without it, 4b would starve to death. Oil might disappear from cars, but it or products derived from it, are used in practically everything. Cars are only 20% of oil demand. Oil will be here forever and so will the petrodollar, at least as long as you are alive
>>543538869Stop using that acronym please. ICE deported my garden and my maid.
>>543538676>There's no stopping this. Eventually, either in 10 years or 30 years, all cars and trucks sold worldwide will be electric. The petrodollar will collapse long before that.Kek no.The third world, which is the largest growing market on the planet, is not going to go electric.
>>543538676Only rich countries like Norway can fully transition their car base.
>>543538676Fucking snowniggers. Imagine going all electric in the fucking artic. I hope Putin actually nukes them all to Valhalla before this year ends.
>>543538749This. I think it would be nice to have a runabout for town but I wouldn’t wanna take it anywhere else. Having to stop and essentially jerk off for half an hour sounds horrible. I’ll keep my 50 gallon diesel tank
>>543539002>ICE deported my gardenDid this ice have fuzzy ears and whiskers?
>>543538749>>543538869The fast charging tech of CATL and NIO battery swap is real, just western infrastructure is shit at supporting it.
>>543538749You lack imagination. There will be an exchangeable battery service that will plop a new fully charged cell into your car at your local Bucee's. Obviously, it will be a subscription service.
>>543538749Gas cars rely on economy of scale. When most people switch to electric, it will be more difficult to drive 500 miles in a gas car than electric car because most gas stations will have shut down.
>>543539028And you wonder why nobody likes you (PR).
>>543538676In a lot of developing countries I visit basically all new cars are electric. Here in Cambodia pickups are still mostly gas/diesel but essentially 100% of new cars and SUVs I see are (Chinese) electric. I was in Nepal 2 years ago and the same was true there.
>>543539046>dieselpricey.I do like plug-in hybrids where you run for the first 50 miles or so on thr battery alone, but for a long trip, you can't beat refueling in under 5 minutes.
>>543538932if you commute under 10 hours daily lower your tone when writing a post soft hands
>>543538676at 5-10cent per kwh that's not surprising. Switzerland, well Zurich had the same boom as long as the state handed out free unlimited car charging cards. The day they stopped it the demand crashed by 80% the rest got zeroed when the 50% off on all EVs coupons from the state stopped getting handed out.
>>543538749pop density of norway is like the size of ohio it's insane we call them "countries"
>>543539185it makes sense when you understand that a lot of these countries don't have oil and have to import it, whereas they might be able to produce electricity from something local -- whether that is a different hydrocarbon or something renewable, etc.
>>5435390465 min charge on 1000v architecture, but mutt 3rd world infrastructure can into high voltage delivery or charge station battery banks here.
>>543539175They are retarded and should be culled for trying to make EV's viable.
>>543539137I want a nio because of that, I can opt to switch to newer battery tech if the original is outdated without buying a whole new car.
>>543539157>When most people switch to electricAnd when will this be happening? EV sales are down 25% in the US.
>>543538676I don't care as long as globohomo can keep their own-nothing agenda out of it and allow me to fix and control my own car. The freedom of the people is the most basic check on tyranny, to resist things like the genocidal draft happening so zelensky can fight for gay marriage in ukraine until he runs out of people to kill and surrenders.But this won't happen. Kings are inherently insecure and want serfs. Even when they're lying to you about being a democracy and giving you free shit to keep you complacent.So GAS FOREVERWE'LL NUKE FUCKING IRAN BITCHGAS FOREVER
>>543538932Taking you at face value>own his house>but daily 9 hour commutex365day x45yearHow is this worth it?Buy closer and get a 2nd job at that point, no one get to think himself white if he does that.
Norway has a population of like 5 million people it's and irrelevant country
>>543539219It does seem like the best options for now. I do wonder how the new scouts will do with the gas range extenders. Edison motors as well with their genny conversions getting closer.
>>543539358Ev here is expensive, there's very little affordable options or charging infrastructure to support it.
>>543539016oh my - how uninformed - actually in price conscious markets ev adoption is pretty fast but those are cheap Chinese shitboxes not luxury evs pushed to western consumer - of course not in oil producing nations where gas is cheap - but there are not that many of those...
>>543538981>you dont do it that often! YOU DONT DO IT THAT OFTEN!yes, I don't shoot a nigger before he can shoot me that often either, but i'm still carrying a gun, so additionally i will never be drafted and used as cannon fodder to prevent russia from banning gay marriage, and I still need to drive between idaho, southern california, and houston for work at least once a year and your preferred solution seems to be fleecing me with air fare and rentals instead of putting a small 4cyl turbo in next to the battery so perhaps me and said nigger should realize we have a common enemy
>>543538676>cringe evWhy not use hydrogen fuel cell?
>>543538749Good thing America invested in high speed rail to cover those long distances instead of wasting 40 Trillion on kike wars.
>>543539358Notice the dropoff after Felon little stun on Dec 24, 2024 lmao
It happening here too.I couldnt imagine going back to gas. It's ridiculous. I have no oil changes, no spark plugs or bullshit to worry about. My biggest maintenance expense is new tires every 15,000 miles.All in all I am very satisfied with my electric. I get the equivalent of a about 3 cents a gallon cost of you take the charge cost and divide it by miles driven.The only thing thst sucks is having to plan long trips around where you can charge but for local stuff my Tesla holds a 400 mile range
>>543539556I think you're confusing me with the market. I'm not disputing your use case -- I can't verify it, but have no real reason to doubt it. I'm just pointing out -- accurately, mind you -- that you are an extreme minority.And judging from the elimination of CAFE standard penalties, it doesn't look like range extenders are in the cards, either. They just want you using more oil period.
>>543539624We already have something better than the headache of doing HSR
>>543538932Lmao
>>543539569Why not have batteries and combustion engines in the same vehicle? Why does it have to be a pure agenda, "fossil fuels are bad or they are not, stay consistent"?>>543539624It takes an absurd amount of security theatre to keep air travel safe and leaves people defenseless if they land in a shithole location like the south (white men from the south have the same violent crime rate as niggers in the north)We can't have mass public transit because half of this country is a third world shithole that pretends to be modern because the north and the coasts use it as a tax haven.>>543539734I'm only a minority in that I have to, not in that I want to.
>>543538676EV sales are struggling in China too which we all know is "pioneering" the electric lyfe yet even there the EV cars only accounts for roughly 30% of the total vehicles.In europe it's already starting to slow down, very few people bought into it outside of Norway where the EV market is basically a state affair. The only thing we obtained is many manufacturers basically cut their own balls off by siding with this forced electric transition themselves, others got fined into oblivion by Europe's green deal legislations.
>>543538676>payed for by oil revenues
>>543539750Would you prefer my counter argument to be the shortage of air traffic controllers or the many problems Boeing aircraft have been having lately because of quality control?
>>543539952No that’s stupid.
>>543539276This is indeed the reason. Also in Nepal in particular all their fuel comes from India and India has used that as leverage over them in the past.
>>543539852And here we are getting our nuts twisted by high fuel prices because we have no alternative and a backwater like Iran is going to win a war against us because of this Achilles Heel in our society.Who gives a fuck about niggers. Nigger ruin taxis too should we get rid of those too according to your logic
>>543538676>Faggy and effeminate "country" accept faggy and effeminate thingThose pussified norducked countries should be nuked.
>>543538676It won’t last. They have already removed a ton of benefits from buying/driving electric and more will come. Electricity is also getting extremely expensive. And something about this statistic doesnt make any sense. Electric cars is maybe about half the cars I see out there. On top of all this, it’s not a trend all over the world. Norway is a tiny country where the government did everything in their power to make us switch, only to start removing the benefits when enough people went electric.
>>543539891China reached 2/3 of EV in new car sales recently - EU 1/3 - and globally 1/4 of new cars are electric - high oil prices turbocharged earlier slower gains...
>>543538676>have oil>drive EVsMorons.
As a Californian in don't foresee driving farther than San Diego, Phoenix, las Vegas, Reno and Klamath falls. That is as big enough and a ev can handle that range
>>543538676I wonder how many battery spontaneous combustion incidents Norway has had ?
>>543538676Is this really true ? I once drove an ev when it was -15 Celsius and the battery lost 50% after a 30 min drive. How is it practical to have an ev in such a cold country like Norway???
>>543540228They should be smashed in the face. They're not even scary looking ghetto blacks they're just chubby little wankers.
>>543540289Yep, take away diesel hybrids and see what numbers are left.
good luck when- THE MICRONOVA IS COMING
>>543538970>bike lanesHow many times have you gotten monkeypox?
>>543540073>We have no alternativeI drive a hybrid>Nigger ruin taxis too should we get rid of those too according to your logicWe should because it's not niggers, it's everyone who acts like them which is basically the entire south
>>543539711>tires every 15k milesDamn, they chew through tires pretty fast
>>543540664those 1/3 are only plugin(1/10) and battery (2/10) - with hybrids Eu share of electrified vehicles reaches 2/3 of new cars sold
>>543538749This is true. We just ran into some British sisters while on vacation. They were shocked how long the flights were to get around the country. To them a 3 hour flight was international travel that would take the “to Croatia” (their words). Europeans simply don’t comprehend that our country is the size of their continent. >London is closer to Moscow than LA is to NYC
>>543538676just cars? get with the program, it's all about electric trucks nowhttps://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/iran-war-boon-chinas-e-trucks-fuelling-export-surge-2026-08-13/
>>543538676fwiw part of reason Norgay goes EV is because they produce far more electricity than they need (and 98% from hydropower). The excess electricity is wasted, hence going EV is one of way to use that excess, other is some energy to material shenanigans (like hydrogen)Norway is the only European Energy superstate that has both renewables & fossil energy. And EU is always persistent on dragging Norway into EU to leech it's rich resources while Norway already gets all the benefits in EU without being an EU member
>>543541139We're connected to the EU grid now so we're exporting excess electricity and our water reservoirs are drying up before winter, but it's alright, we'll just import from the EU!
>>543538749You could try a hybrid car. Hybrids seem like a good stepping stone to get people used to electric cars, but our incompetent government went after those as much as ICE cars.
>>543541463I do.Hybrid absolutely is the way to go.I maintain that ~500 miles between refuels should be the goal.
>>543539358I literally said in OP. 10 years or 30 years. It depends on the country. California will likely be 10 years at the current rate.
>>543539569Because hydrogen fuel cells suck compared to BEVs.
>>543541463I have a toyota plug-in hybrid, I fill up maybe once a month, the rest is driving around town in EV mode and I just charge at home. I drove 200 miles over the weekend, only used about 1/8 of a tank of fuel, since I had a full battery before I left and charged at a free charger while I had lunch at my destination.
>>543538749/threadhybrids aren't a terrible option for us though, similar range and "recharging" speed as ICE
>>543541463lots of Americans own hybrids, especially moreso lately with fuel prices the way they are
>>543538676only retarded burgersharts with oppositional defiant disorder are against EV's
>>543540785They are heavier because of the battery. But there are almost zero maintenance issues. There is no spark, no fuel, no filters...etcI have gone 2 years not even seen a mechanic. The thought is forgiven to me completely now since I went electric
Also lol my Tesla fetches in the parking lot.People always trip out. It comes and picks me up at the grocery store and stuff after I park it No driver needed. Cool shit
>>543539002>ICE deportedhope you're next
>>543538676Look at a fucking map of Norway, and then their Oil Fund You doublenigger.It is easy to electrify then You drive short distances, have access to a lot of hydro-electric power and is rich as a hell due to oil peddling.
>>543542398>They are heavier because of the battery.it's also from the near-instant acceleration of an electric car compared to a gas car.
>>543540289China literaly burns coal to power their electric cars, and a dictatorship gives fuck all about what happens their poorer citizens.
>>543538676nigga oil isn't needed just for personal cars. It does account a huge share currently, roughly half of oil production iirc, but that just means the economy will adjust when that share lowers. Airplanes, long haul trucks, cargo and passenger ships, secondary electricity production, etc. all consume tons of oil and if the oil consumed by private cars goes down these industries will absorb the consumption and become bigger. They are also not replaceable by electric motors, at least by current or near future tech.
>>543538676These still only work well in certain areas and they cost too much.
>>543538676This is Musks strategy. Forced meme buildout of electrical and surveillance infrastructure for AI and retarded security state, then wait for it to implode by 2028 so you can have cheap backbone infrastructure for your self driving electric cars.
>>543541330Don't you guys sell alot of oil?
>>543542761It really doesn't matter because the oil industry will sell oil regardless of what a country thinks. Oil smells like freedom and my country loves that shit. If a country decides to stop using oil then they are in need of some old fashion American FREEDOM.
>>543538932You stupid burgers and your pathetic miles. I can easily go 800 or 900km in that same time you only go 500 miles.
>>543543064Don't use kilometers on 4chan You fucking leaf. Most idiots here can't understand proper units of measure.
>>543543251>the forbidden technique of b8 replying to b8
>>543543349Hey, I may understand proper units but I am still an idiot.
>>543538676>CarsIphones with wheels are not cars.
>>543539711>I get the equivalent of a about 3 cents a gallon and I wonder why people laugh at my shit tier math and call me a retard
>>543538782Never het high on your own supply.
>>543538749>Scandinavia>regions where driving 500+ miles in a day is uncommon.The fuck are you talking about?Scandinavia is huge and Scandi's drive long distances all the time both inside Scandinavia and to get to places in the rest of Europe like going skiing in the Alps or summer holiday in Spain.Olso-Barcelona is over 2000 km.Americans fly everywhere, they have no idea about long distance driving.
Norway is a micro nation>Total EVs Sold (2025)USA: 1,300,000NOR: 172,232
>>543544262Yes, but pretty. Like. If Norway was a woman she would be severely fuckable.
>>543538983Not much fertilizer is made from oil. Natural gas is widely used to make nitrogen fertilizer, although coal is also used especially in China.>Cars are only 20% of oil demandPassenger vehicles are about 25% (26mbpd in 2021 according to the IEA). Road freight, rail, planes and boats are another 25%. Heating and power are another 11%. All of these can be replaced.Petrochemicals can be made from coal.
>>543544262>pulls a random stat out of his ass>doesn't explain what point he's trying to make
>>543544085its not even about the distance. you need to stop and stretch your legs and back every 100km anyway. at a supercharger your ev will go from 20% to 80% percent in 25mins and then you can go another 200km. for private driving no issue.
>>543538932Americani golems are ok with this, and actually think you're less of a man if you're not ok with it.
>>543540617Heated garages everywhere. Leave the heated garage at home, drive to the heated garage of the grocer/work/school etc. For a private car with 300-500km range a usual driven distance of under 30km per trip and almost free elctricty it's perfectly viable.
>>543538676Very few of those are Teslas, half are probably byd
>>543543251>proper unitsyour reddit memes are not welcome here, go be a brainless parrot somewhere else
>>543540617Electric cars aren't as vulnerable to the cold as you think.
The fact that all new cars sold are electric is for the simple reason, it will no longer be ALLOWED to sell fossile fuel cars within a few years.Go to toyota.noThis is the options we have with Toyota models. Its basically shit. Toyota has a ton of great models, but only cars sold is electric. Lexus.no is the exact same. Just electric cars.It has nothign to do with people not wanting other cars. Its the fact that new cars sold is primarily electric for almost all brands.We have less models to chose from than Russia has.The reason why they push gas and diesel prices to the roof also is because they want the degenerate low IQ enviromental agenda to kick in for full. Less people can afford fuel, and people then go for electric cars. Gas stations are being shut down because less people fill up their cars with gas and diesel.And funny part is, enviromentalist niggers scream "oooooh there has never been more enviromental issues related to cars in Norway EVER". It just shows how fucking stupid people here are. With almost 50% of all cars rolling on these roads up here being electric, and perhaps 5-10% of the cars being before 2000, just show what bullshit this is.But I think its okay. This country needs to crumble and meet massive issues because the only goals for liberal niggers is that they want to destroy societies while their low IQ brain think this is going to become great. We have seen marxism and communism in every single country out there. History has shown forever that they will never succeed and they end up being shot or hanged or arrested or whatever. Give it 10-20 years when energy becomes a massive issue here (because they dont want energy either because it destroy enviroment), and shit collapses. Thats when everything takes a 180 turn in desperation.My biggest wish for this shithole is that the oil fund we have get demolished. That markets crash and that all the money people need for their welfare shit disappear. People here need hard times.
>>543545665Don't electronics run better in the cold?>>543545243Self-driving cars will drop everyone off at the entrance of their destination.
>>543540617>>543545665Yeah for the actual driving the cold doesn't really matter.You lost maybe 10-15%What DOES matter is the cabin heater.Warm your cabin up from -40C to +20C and you lose a good chunk of the battery before driving even a single kilometer.But this is easily fixed by pre-heating while it's still plugged in, so you leave with a warm cabin, warm battery and 100% charged battery.
>>543538749Don't worry anon you won't be permitted to live city limits and if you do get permission you will use only approved transport methods to take you to the other city zone at great profit to your masters
>>543538749You literally only drive between McDonald's and Walmart. 99% of Americans can use an EV for that.
>>543545795So what if they're banning gas cars? Like saying the only reason there aren't more murders is because murder is illegal.
>>543545795>within a few yearsSo they should be selling MORE diesel/petrol cars today.Think about it: people who want to buy a petrol or diesel car have to do it NOW rather than wait a few more years.My county just imposed a fireworks ban.So guess what? - last year was the record in fireworks sales because everyone wanted to take the last opportunity to go out with a bang.
>>543539326>file nameThis is clearly a BMW S65, which retard wrote S54?
>>543539046This is why Elon put Trump in office. Diesel is never going back down
>>543543548Gas cars aren't cars. EVs are real cars.
>>543546204some bmw bloghttps://www.bmwblog.com/2022/10/10/bmw-s54-engine-everything-you-need-to-know/
>>543546097hardly anyone wants a gasoline or diesel car anymore, so thats not the issue. people only buy them because they have no possibility to charge at home or at work or an ev is not in their budget. driving a diesel car as a private car has become a sign of poverty here. nobody wants them anymore so they are being sold for cheap.
>>543539448It's not. No one would tolerate a 9hr round trip daily commute. If they were actually earning good money to justify it then they'd just get an apartment rental next to their job site instead.The person you are replying to is 13 years old and mentally retarded.>>543546071Correct.Even hauling/towing is a non-issue as majority of truck owners do that only a few times a quarter for recreation.A gas truck would only make sense if someone wants to travel while towing a home trailer and even then it boils down to a question of convenience (stop to charge more often vs fueling) than capability.The biggest obstacle to owning an EV in US is still the presence of charging infrastructure and our overall grid capacity.Personally, if the economy ever gets unfucked then I'll be looking to buy some flavor of hybrid because living in the sticks there are no charging stations here and I don't want to install one at my home because it's expensive.
>>543546270You better fucking hope it is because I don't want to be paying $10 for a loaf of wonderbread.>it's $6-8 where I live right now
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>>543546097Prime example of what I was talking about. But its fine. Tranny lovers and rainbow degenerates always think they understand shit lol.
>>543546102Does not flow with the liberal scum population here. They swallow everything they hear withouth any questions what so ever.Here you can basically tell people whatever and they will believe it. Its a reason for Norway being on the top list of the world most naive countries. Why military spending is still at halt here because even the majority of the degenerate leftie fags in politics here dont think Russia will ever attack us lol. Its a pardody, but it is what it is.
>>543538676>muh petrodollah>muh "fossil" fuelsMeanwhile....>Asphalt>Tires>Lubricants>Plastics>Rubbers>Solvents>Synthetic fabrics>etc.
>>543538932I commute 12 minutes each way while posting here at red lights. how have you goys not an heroed yet?
>>543538676Most of norway's energy comes from hydropower, the most free "green" energy solution out there. In the case of norway going electric truly makes the independent from the rest of the world. If they could also build their own batteries&cars they really would be a true free nation that can tell globhomo to fuck off.
You will have taken the Mark of the Beast by then so don't worry nigger
>>543546535BAKA my head
>>543545814>Don't electronics run better in the cold?the battery doesn't hold as much charge
Unless everyone sold their cars and bought new ones in 2026, I doubt that 97% figure is correct.
>>543547601Grease thickens, oil thickens, you need to heat the interior using a heat pump. Fossil cars have a shit ton of waste heat so you can just take some of that to heat the cabin. An EV has no waste heat so needs to grab heat from the air (heat pump)--all kills efficiency in cold temps. My gas car drops from 24 or 25mpg in summer to around 20mpg (or less) in cold snaps in DJF.
>>543538749this, europoids will NEVER understand that many american patriots have to travel 3 hours one way from their McMansion in Wakaweewa County suburb to the city center
>>543538676Paid for by oil wealth
>>543548218>has bountiful oil>still switches to EVShows how dead ICE is if even an oil exporting nation switches.
>>543546570>hardly anyone wants a gasoline or diesel car anymoreeven the morons that dont change their mind as soon as the EV subsidies expirereminder the EV market 100% would not even exist if not for massive government subsidies
>>543548218they get most of their energy from water tho
>>543546651its going to crash before we can be rid of the rothschilds
>>543548218>>543548365but almost no other country has geography for thatmaybe chile
>>543547098>leftie fags in politics here dont think Russia will ever attack uslefttards pretty much all believe whatever globohomo puts in their headsand Russia le ebil and Russia will attack everyone for no reason other than they want to dominate the world (lmao at the projection)
>>543547281>be a nation taken over by globohomo>if we can just produce our own batteries we can tell globohomo to fuck offnow this is funny
>>543548347driving a petrol or diesel car means having to suck either russian, arab or american cock and being at the mercy of water ways like the hormussy and bab el mandab being open. that alone makes ev driving worth it. trumps diesel export ban would be a catastrophe for the european economy. its batshit insane crazy as a european to still spend money on oil products.>>543548347>would not even exist if not for massive government subsidieslol, guess what the austrian government subsidizes: diesel and gasoline.
Electric cars are awesome, man.I took my Mustang GT in to test drive a Tesla. The Tesla blew my mind it was so much faster. It felt so gay driving the Mustang home it was so slow and unresponsive to throttle.I put in an order the next day. I'm on my second Tesla now just picked it up last week actually.
>>543548389What's going to crash? the price of diesel?you're retarded anon>>543546791>GAS GAS GAS>I'M GONNA STEP ON THE GAS>TONIGHT I'LL FLY>AND BE YOUR LOVER
>>543547128All of those make up a tiny percentage of our crude oil consumption when compared to what we use for energy, retard.
>>543538676aren't norway fags powered by geothermal energy? usa can't even handle daily surge of electricity and most people aren't home to run their electronics during the day
>>543548827>mussy-tang owner>on his second tesla because he already crashed the first onechecks out
>>543539002found a turdie! do you get ptsd when seeing ice in your cup?
>>543538869Norway is a very long country, I'm not exactly sure how long but at least 1500 km, Germany is not st all that long in any direction.
>>543539046>using a 90's diesel for the comparison
>>543548763>its better to be under globohomo's thumb and use all of their surveillance equipment on yourself than it is to just use gaslol>austria subsidizes oilgasthat doesnt negate my very factual point that the EV market never would have taken off if globohomo bureaucrats had not directed massive amounts of money to make an EV market where regular market forces always and forever said this cost benefit analysis does not come anywhere near close to passing muster
>>543548827shut the fuck up gaynigger, you never owned a mustang
>>543548865the whole motherfuckin financial world, dummyreminder that 2008 was about to happen in 2019 again and instead something happened that injected the banks with trillions, kicked the can down the road just a couple years, and all that bitching people are doing about prices and trying to blame Trump for it is 100% the doing of the central banking jews having set it all up to blow up
>>543538676How is the electricity generated to charge the batteries?
>>543538676>Eventually, either in 10 years or 30 years, all cars and trucks sold worldwide will bepowered by hydrogen. Electric cars will go down as the most environmentally damaging invention o the 20th century.
>>543544694His point is Norway is a micro nation and has a very small market. Nigger you are literally fucking retarded. It's the first sentence of his post.
>>543542384Only myopic euroshits think battery power is magic and not generated with fossil fuels because you're too terrified of the superior Nuclear energy.
>>543542398>The thought is forgiven to me completely now since I went electricNow that's an "authentic" American sentence.
>>543548255see >>543542586
>>543538782Because they sell it you fucking retard
>>543549460you can always tell who the stinky brownoid nigger posters are, their low iq really isn't something they can escape from
>>543549272>that doesnt negate my very factual point that regular market forces would see us at the mercy of russia and the usa and every arab/iranian chimpout means tons of layoffs here. if anything ev should be subsidized even more. its absolutely stupid to hand money to putin and trump when they both hate europe and want to destroy it. and the arabs and iranians with their shenanigans can fuck right off too. without our money they would be nothing.
>>543549864ah I see, I'm sorry globohomo has entered your mind and taken it over and you cannot look at anything objectively any longer, there's only the globohomo visionits sad watching retards fight for the Rothschilds, but in 97% of cases they dont know any better
>>543549085>Nordniggers talking like 90% of their population isn't within 3h or their capital at the south end of the country.Yea yea that's like me in Quebec acting like anyone actually drives to the northern tip.
>>543545243How the fuck can every parking in the city be a heated garage? I haven't been to Norway, but I've been to lots of countries, and everywhere vast majority of parkings are just outside. Also when I've been to EU they couldn't afford heating even their homes properly, and were wearing warm clothes at home.
>>543538676Lmao, no. Norway is a mountainous gated community and nothing close to resembling the real world. Might as well sample fucking Latvia for statistical purposes.
>>543538841Nigga ive driven 900 in a single day
>>543544542>all of these can be replacedShow me your flag you retarded nigger jew
>>543545001He's trolling you absolute buffoon./pol/ really is retarded.
>>543538932Audibly kek’d
The funny thing about gas and electric is "Hey it's Labor Day weekend, lets raise gas prices for no other reason then to gouge the public. With electric they have to go to a rate commission and justify an increase.
>>543539358Trannies lost kek
>>543539219>you can't beat refueling in under 5 minutes.you can charge in 15-20 minutes. If it’s really a long drive, that time barely factors in.
Don’t electric cars breakdown in the cold?
>>543545795>The fact that all new cars sold are electric is for the simple reason, it will no longer be ALLOWED to sell fossile fuel cars within a few years.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crk78y7k8ezo2 more weeks tranny, btw they did this after the Chinese basically invaded our market with their own brands, oh btw the German car industry is basically collapsing in on itself lol
>>543551447Tell that to Norway.
>>543551161you fucking niggerEversource, when prevented from just continually raising rates, came up with the screw job of just charging you twiceNow you pay doubleOnce for "generation" of the energyA second time for "transmission" of the energyI wouldnt be surprised if before long they add a 3rd instance of your bill for akshually using the fucking energy in your house.You either have never paid your own electric bill or have never looked at it to tell that those fucks are literally charging you double what they say they are.
>>543551296>quadrupling or more of the refuel time is no big dealits amazing how far some asswipes will spread 'em and ask for more
>>543551447In Europe they also won't start until you turn on the camera that watches you 24/7 while driving and you allow telemetry to run without problems lol, electric car enthusiasts are ALL fucking cucks, they do fuck all to curb CO2 emissions but leftist cucks still buy that story
It’s another example of a country following the agenda exactly
>>543538676Gay>zipzap I tool about in muh little cuckmobile cuz our female leaders get paid to enforce le climate change grift
>>543539157this has been debunked. there will still be gasoline filling stations every 5 miles along i75, i95 etc>>543539137bussy's battery. ironically when this occurs is when state-mandated homosexuality will begin to be implemented>>543539852those are called plug in hybrid vehicles or PHEV (like PHTEVEN the Dog, pic. rel). they are extremely heavy and dont have enough space for full batteries for an electric so they get max like 60 miles on battery and only have a gas tank that can hold like 8 gallons of gas (its really efficient though). its a good idea though. good for storms to have a gas option, I would buy something like that brand new. just very expensive and not the best at either option
>>543538676fuck yea my gas prices will fucking diveenjoy your AI data-center cucked car battery charging prices, you fucking losers! HAHA!
>>543551447yeah they cant drive in the freezing cold and if theres a flood they catch on fire and cant be put out, with lithium flames that burn through bone (pic rel, but unironically)
>>543551674>this has been debunked. there will still be gasoline filling stations every 5 miles along i75, i95 etcAre there horse stations along the same route every 5 miles like there used to be?
>>543551703Opposite, gas prices will increase. That's because gasoline production is concentrated in a few refineries. As they shut down, it will be increasingly more expensive to transport the fuel to your local gas stations.
>>543551786how many people were riding horses from Michigan to Florida every week? people weren't riding their carriages more than 20 miles into town once a week to get groceries and other goods. dont be a dumb nigger
>>543551589>drive for 3 hours>stop for 20 minutesOh no how horribleYou should get off your ass every so often, it's good for your health
>>543538841I drive about 100 miles a day.
>>543538676>entire economy is based on oil and gas>drive mostly electric carsEurocucks are dumber than jeets at this point
>>543551837Sorry bro, it's not how it works. Gas stations require customers. As gas cars disappear, so will gas stations.
>>543551845>just deal with the spyvehicle that needs a recharge every 200 miles and you have to sit for 25-30 min, chud>its for the environment, its totally not to restrict the movement of the plebesfuck youif I have someplace to drive that's 4 or 5 hours away, I can do that on one tank of gas without stopping like a bitch
>>543551835It's going to cost more to shut refineries down than keep them running long after we're dead. It's the most govt subsidized market in the USA. They aren't just dropping all those fucking subsidies, Teslatard. Especially not after the amount of pedo blackmailing they had ol' Jeff do to get them in place. Fucking midwit Teslatards, KEK
>>543552024I picked up a long range tesla like 3 weeks ago. A 4 or 5 hour drive is not a problem for 1 battery actually. But the amount of cameras on you is indeed insane.
>>543538676Roll with propane
>>543551845>i have no idea how real life works and i am a fucking loser. men with shit to do have to drive a lot, and use a pickup truck, which still should be gas or diesel because as soon as an electric car is towing or loaded with thousands of pounds of extra weight, the range goes to a fraction of what it should be. you are an idiot if you dont already understand how this cannot fly in the US. i haul a trailer with bales of hay, 275 gallon totes of water which weighs as much as a pickup itself, commercial mowers, 40+ gallons of fuel. and this is the regular stuff, this is one of many reasons why going full electric wont work here. unless you want to call up elon oak tree musk to design an e-truck that can tow like a real truck. and yes, i cannot sit around or uh walk down the highway hundreds of miles because i feel like it. what the fuck are you talking about?
>>543538676But to what end when the Queen is a pedophile who sold off her daughter to Epstein?
>>543552236>I picked up a drivable flock camera 3 weeks agokek. kekmao, even.
honest question.Why the fuck would you even buy a new ICE car in 2026? They are literally built to fail in less than 5 years and become too expensive to repair.
>>543552182California refineries are closing, despite government pushback, due to lowered demand.
>>543552363OH! WOW! CALIFORNIA EXITING FOSSIL FUELS DESPITE HANDOUTS CHANGES EVERYTHING! holyyyy were you born retarded? I bet you fucking live in that hellscape, don't you? lol can't even leave a fucking analog calculator on your dash in Commiefornia without getting your window broken while you're away since like 2006.>California did a retarded political thing under a facade of virtue, so it's going to happen everywhereimagine literally being this retarded
>>543552330>dashcam, the country opines on road anonimity. Not like you’d know, but in the NL there has been a camera every 100 meters on the highways for the longest time. It’s used for traffic Regulation. I know one of the guys working with the data. He told me they refuse attempts to let them be used by law enforcement.
>>543538676What are the tires, steel, and plastics in those cars made out of?
>>543552559>my govt doesn't spy on me, my wagie IT pal told me so!KEK
>>543552339Don't
>>543552024>spyvehicle that needs a recharge every 200 miles and you have to sit for 25-30 minLmao you're such a fucking cuck if you think it's just EVs that have terrible privacy. You actually fell for the red herring like a good little goy.
>>543551149same lol
EVs are just cityfags kicking and screaming demanding everyone is only allowed to use autos that are basically built just for cityfags. They're shit for undeveloped rural environment, inclement weather environment. AMERICA has undeveloped stretches of road bigger than the entire "nation" of Norway.
>>543552632Way to miss the point. I forgot my own rule to not talk to Americans, ever. Woe is me.
>>543552272Are you a woman?>this tool that fits the needs of 95% of drivers is better>but what about this thing, that means that tool is terrible and no one should use it.Maybe not a woman, but can you answer how you would feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>543552676>you must necessarily have one of these carsthis is hilarious>get owned>act like it didnt happen, say some other bullshit to distract from the fact
>>543552676>y-y-you're a cuck! EVs don't have privacy issues! There's no such thing as "anonymized" data collection from your car's cameras and sensors! Th-the companies just say it in fine-print to make people scared of buying their cars! They don't actually do anything at all with it!I really have to wonder if you're legitimately this retarded, just trollin, or a straight up kike shill.
>>543538676>Gets bombed by Russia>Nobody can do anything or drive anywhere, there are effectively millions of incendiary bombs that can't be put out all over every residential and commercial area Are Norwegians retarded? They're going to get fuckin ganked
>>543538970>but I'm all for electric vehiclesWhy?
>>543552836>95% of driversplebbitor exaggerationsyou lost, tranny
>>543548925>Tiny percentageIt's about a quarter of production>Thinks he can remove all fuel entirely Also, good luck getting any of those products at any reasonable price, once you shut down all the now "redundant" oilfields, too...
>>543552926Clean air and lack of noise in residential areas is very nice
>>543552788I responded to the only relevant point you made, which was about data requests. The one on highways was irrelevant because this was never about "highway-only" driving, Teslatard. It was about you driving a flock camera around like a good goy.
>>543552676my cars app? what fucking app? who the fuck is dumb enough to drive something made in the last decade?
>>543552914>reading comprehension is hardAll cars made after 2019 have data privacy concerns, but singling out EVs as the only ones is retarded. Your 2027 f-250 will have a kill switch and you'll like it. Kek
>>543553057Why don't you care about the environment?
>>543553057>taking CO2 away from the trees for my comfort is nicewow. fucking nature-hating piece of shit.
>>543553084Where is it? I’ll unplug it
>>543553084>I'm a retard so I can't comprehend someone who can maintain a '99 trans am and get the interior redone every ~20 years as a simple hobby.I'm sorry you're so small-minded?
>>543538676Why are Norwegians so effeminate?
>>543538676provided you have a reliable base load electricity generation system with head room this is possible. you must also have infrastructure capable of incorporating the new. Norway is a bad example as it really doesn't mirror many other places.in this country, where people distrust the state, being forced into EV's, even with attractive incentives, has not worked. the leasing firms, even with colossal discounts, are loading up losses like crazy because residual values are shit, if they can sell them. the dealership networks pre-register these things by the boat load to 'meet' targets and these brand new 'used' vehicles at heavy discount depress residuals even further. nor do we have a reliable power grid to support it because much windmills and roughly 50% of properties do not have off road parking to charge at home. as a result Toyota were right and hybrids are more popular.If the market had been allowed to introduce these cars more slowly without the Government interfering and setting arbitrary targets, we wouldn't have had airfields filled with unsold EV's and the vehicles would have found their place. Nor would we have remorseful buyers who find the expensive product didn't meet their needs and are unable to sell except at a huge loss. The bizarre obsession with carbon dioxide has lead to many stupid decisions across Europe. It would be preferable to focus on pollution in its many forms. But in ClownWorldEurope it's easier to use the invisible gas and tales of impending doom to extract more taxes and socially engineer the livestock.Norway is a rare example of a country that didn't spunk oil money on bullshit and has been able to fund this transition and likely thought carefully ahead of time about how to achieve it. That's as rare as hens teeth in western countries.
>>543553171Kek they won't make it that easy. In Toyotas to bypass the GPS tracking you had to unplug the right speakers and windows control module
>>543543046it doesn't really feel like freedom at $4+/gal. Keep in mind, internal combustion engines can run on other fuels besides gasoline and diesel.
The creation and destruction of batteries is far worse for the environment. Children are involved in slave labor for the gathering of materials. Wrecking in an EV means you have a high chance of burning to death in a horrific way. You aren't even saving money in fact you pay more in the long run while making everything worse and also becoming a worse person while thinking you are better than everyone else. It's a sad state of affairs the propaganda that has pushed people into gladly taking an inferior product.
>>543553423Surely I can just foil the antenna
>>543553203>I drive a clapped out shit box so everyone else should tooAgain woman reasoningPeople with project cars (if they are smart) always have a backup reliable vehicle because small things will break down that can leave it undrivable while you wait a week for a new part
>>543553590>Children are involved in slave labor for the gathering of materials. >in AfricaYou're actually trying to find sympathy on /pol/ for little niglets thousands of miles away?
>>543552718I don't think this makes a lot of sense. Most rural areas of the United States, like Maine, Kentucky, Indiana, etc. don't have any oil. It has to come in from somewhere else. At least with electricity there is the possibility you can generate it locally.I guess I should admit that Indiana has ethanol (I think anyway, maybe they don't grow corn or sugar beets there), but you guys seem to hate that, too.You really seem to hate most things that came about as a result of the Oil Embargo of the 1970s and logical economic self-defense within Western civilization. Which is interesting.
>>543538676EUpoid here. Norway has zero tariffs on chinese cars (0). Ofc they are all electric. I wanted to buy an Xpeng P7+ and I have seen that it costs €30k in Norway but €45k in the EU because of out of this world EU tariffs. It's impossible to buy cheap electric cars for us EUpoids. Tariffs are the only reason for that. The hell with the EU.
>>543553739Leftoids pushing EV's pretend to care about such things and actively push for the destruction of western civilization for their replacement by them so it's generally a good point to make when dealing with their kind.
>>543553831Most of Western civilization doesn't have significant oil deposits, so buying oil is just an automatic transfer out of the country. I imagine you are trying to include the US within Western civilization, but as an afro-zionist entity that has done nothing but attack Western civilization for the last 100 years, this is confusing. I understand you have a perceived reality via political marketing, but it doesn't line up with actual reality.And until the fracking boom happened, dependence on foreign oil was consistently identified by the national security apparatus as a weakness. It was not some partisan issue.But rightoids are very adept at using terms like "we" "our" "us" when it comes to private, global market corporations that happen to have a corporate office or extraction permit within the administrative territory of the "United States" to confuse regular people into identifying the interests of the corporate entity as being similar or aligned with their own personal interests (which doesn't make sense unless you're a shareholder c-suite executive because your household is a net oil importer and you pay the global market price. this is not Iran or Saudia Arabia were you get it for like 10 cents a gallon).
>>543552530>>California did a retarded political thing under a facade of virtue, so it's going to happen everywhereHow is people using less gasoline a facade of virtue? Do you like spending more money on fuel for the same results?
>>543553655>while you wait a week for a new partYou really don't understand the level of supply for car parts, do you? There's 10 parts stores within a 10 mile radius of my house, and I can always take an Uber if I need a part same-day.In America, taking care of your own car is literally a male cultural skill like women cooking in Asian countries. The parts are dirt cheap and will be available past my death.I guess your dad was a fucking loser NEET who didn't teach you basic mechanics. Unfortunate, onions boy.>always have a backup reliable vehicle>*implies 2026 plastic turd-boxes are more reliable then full-metal 90s muscle cars*you're out of your depth, Teslatard.
>>543552600Steel is made of iron. Tires and plastics are made of oil, but the oil isn't set on fire and dumped into the atmosphere, and very little is used.
>>543553770real prices for a 2026 Xpeng P7+:China: $27kNorway: $39kGermany: $50kThe hell with the EU.
>>543553770those tariffs keep millions of jobs in europe. the chinese cars are only so cheap because the chinese state subsidizes their production. its literally a hostile attack on our industry. its ultra cucked from the EU to even allow these chinese cars on the european market at all. the americans are smarter, they have blocked them outright.
>>543538749They don't even know. The drive from my home, to my cabin in another State, is ~4,700mi. It's 70+hr drive.
>>543538749Rural retards who need to drive 35 miles each way to spend their EBT at the Dollar General needing to spend over $4/gallon for the privilege will always be funny.
>>543538676Well yeah. Gas costs 12 dollars per gallon in Norway.
>>543542384Battery goes to shit after a decade and costs as much as a new car to replace. There is no resale value to EV for a reason, a regular car or diesel engine vehicle will last 30-40 years with good maintenance.
>>543552940>>Thinks he can remove all fuel entirelyStrawnigger>getting any of those products at any reasonable priceWhy not?Number of refineries will decrease, but the science/business does not change you stupid shitskin, lmao
>>543539016awful y axis in that chart retard, and a big, 4th world tier miss by the BBC
>>543539233Fucking kek.
>>543554517KEK take a plane retard. Stop being a poor fag and rent a car when you get there for your family and actually enjoy your vacation. (if you aren't an incel that is.) instead of spending 3 fucking days staring at a highway.
>>543554105They legislated refineries into other states through excessive taxation under the premise of "paying their fair share to the 'global warming' problem" (a facade of virtue and total bullshit)Did you even know that the earth has been warming since the last ice-age and no peer-reviewed studies have been conducted to even try to ascertain the percentage of warming attributed to manufacturing?Now try to conceptualize this factual cycle in your tiny brain:1. Tree population explodes (due to tons of unused CO2)2. Tree population exploded too much and now not enough CO2 for all trees, and overall low CO2 levels in the atmosphere.3. Low CO2 = low "greenhouse gas" causing global cooling (eventually causing ice age)4. Tree population dwindles to near extinction as we enter a new ice age.5. Volcanic eruptions, oceanic fissures, etc. ramp up CO2 over loooooooong periods of time (hundreds of thousands of years). Earth slowly starts to warm out of ice age because there's CO2 again.6. More CO2 being made than trees are using because tree population still small due to cold. Earth continues to warm.7. Earth now warm enough for trees to thrive again, and with all that extra CO2 the tree population starts to explode again. This is also step 1.A long cycle of CO2 overconsumption and CO2 underconsumption. All driven by tree population.The fact is: global warming isn't the threat caused by excessive CO2. The threat is that we're basically growing the tree population beyond what it could naturally get to without extra man-made CO2 (there are more trees on Earth today than ever before). Fortunately, we won't live to see the early ice-age this will cause once trees start dying en masse because they're literally eating more CO2 than we could ever make because the tree population is higher than it could be naturally.
>>543554298>those tariffs keep millions of jobs in europeoh now tariffs are fine in this instanceyou duplicitous mother fuckers
>>543555225>global warming isn't a threat caused by excessive CO2any scientifically minded person knows this
>>543554863>Absolute retard thinks a resteucted market operates with the same msrgins as a wide open market>Also thinks he can extract only the end products he wants from the base raw materialsThink again. Oh, right; you can't...You e-faggots are so fucking dumb, even niggerest of niggers are genius, in comparison
>>543553590Nigger this line of shilling is so fucking dated lmao. I drive fifty miles to work and never pay for gas in a car that never breaks down. Suck it
>>543555325yea, just trying to teach this retarded Al Gore subscriber:>>543554105It's probably a hopeless endeavor, though.
>>543554298the chinese have achieved full vertical integration starting from the batteries and engines. It's called efficiency. What you say is true for car producing countries, it's not true for places like Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Slovenia and so on. The fact countries with no auto industry are still very rich demonstrates that you don't really need it unless it is super efficient. keeping chinese cars out of EU is just an act of sadism against consumers.
>>543554681batteries lose 10% capacity in a decade. the battery almost never gets changed, costs about 10-15k depending on the model. also good luck with that 20-40yo diesel as your daily use car. you will become best friends with your car mechanic.
>>543555418Make sure you remind them about the child slavery used to mine the cobalt and lithium for their precious EVs too. They cope and seethe so hard sometimes they chimp out and it's fun to watch.
>>543538676>image says cars>retard infers trucksdoesn't say trucks, faggot
>>543555418Still not as bad as having to buy gas or maintain an ICE
>>543555248>>543555248>oh now tariffs are fine in this instancethe difference is europe doesnt subsidize its car industry like china does. we arent using vw or stellantis to kill the american car industry.
>>543555529Yeah as if there’s not a single instance of questionable labor practices involving conventional automobiles or petroleum extraction and refinement
>>543555662>the difference is europe doesn't subsidize its car industryMaybe it should? The European Union is the issuer of the euro, so it has to subsidize everything else indirectly anyway.
>>543555399>reach a retard that believes in the co2 catastrophe conjecturelol, lmaoyou dont reach people that are that retarded
>>543555529I think the LFP batteries don't use any cobalt. I think most lithium mining is fairly mechanized, as well but maybe someone can correct me on that.
>>543555418>also good luck with that 20-40yo diesel as your daily use car.diesels fucking RUN, retardthat's why all the trucks are dieselno cam no extra moving parts500k miles for a diesel truck is just getting past the break in for all intents and purposesfuckin tards
>>543555662Everyone here would cheer if you did.
>>543555730aaaaand there's the cope and seethe. It's demonstrably less so than EV batteries. Please continue to chimp out.>>543555765what can I say? I'm a social romantic. Full of hopes that will be crushed every day. Watched too many altruistic Christian and Disney movies as a kid. Thankfully not nearly as many as gen Z.
>>543555662>europe doesnt subsidize its car industrythey subsidize the fuck out of EVs you retard
>>543555529>Make sure you remind them about the child slaveryI drive an EV and I don't care about some niglets a whole continent away. EVs are just the more practical vehicle. And oil guzzlers are more dependent on niggers than EVs drivers as seen with the strait of hormuz
kill jewVboot orc inc mik wopVsell bad women to indiaVimport 200mil hot 16 yo slave girlsVthorium safe atomicVfree castles and mage towers with girl servants for whitemen, no authority over whitemen
>>543555858Lmao imagine being reduced to the point where your biggest argument against a technology is how it employ niglets in Zimbabwe or wherever the fuck. You fags are scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point
>Norway is full of CHYNese EVs that spy and can be controlled/bricked in CHYNA at anytimeOk? This is a win?>t. 98 Landcruiser ute master-race
>>543555357Trolling or actually just that stupid?
>>543555938>driving a tracking anklet / flock camera around is just more practicalwhatever you have to tell yourself to make it okay, goy."[retards deserve neither liberty nor safety]" - Benjamin Franklinyou are the retard he spoke of
>>543555326>first thing he thinks about is marginskike pls
>>543555841median age for a truck in the EU is 14 years...median age for cars 12.3 years...only med countries with no rain or extreme corrupt east euro shitholes that dont give a fuck about road safety have older trucks on their roads and even there the median is around 20 years or so. i havent seen a 40 year old truck in ages, at that point keeping them street legal costs more than just buying a new one.
>>543555985you're another one of the retards BF mentioned here:>>543556038enjoy driving around your tracking anklet / flock camera, goy! it has all the shiny new plastic features and screens!
>>543539952I passed the Air traffic test with a near perfect score, and I have an ABD in STEM. I could not get a single job and I applied nation wide.Meanwhile, we have videos come out where test moderators were caught sharing answers with blacks. I guess people would rather die than hire me.
>>543556090Imagine actually believing they don’t do this to ICE cars
>>543555899depends on the country. in austria the ev subsidies got cut, there is only a small tax exemption left and every ev gets that, even chinese and american evs, not just euro evs.
>>543556069>Calling other kikeShlomo, plz...
>>543556131>Meanwhile, we have videos come out where test moderators were caught sharing answers with blacks. I guess people would rather die than hire me.I haven't flown since the TSA and my choice is constantly affirmed as the right one. Sorry but I will not subject myself to the humiliation rituals. Driving and seeing the country is so much more comfy and enriching.
CO2 is good. CO2 is what all life depends on. More CO2 -> more efficient photosynthesis -> more green mass, higher crop yields.Throught most of the history of the planet, CO2 was higher, and diminishing. Life was around during that ride. The earth was indeed warmer, with fewer desert, but that higher temperature was not a flat +10 degrees over the entire planet (that's retarded), it's just that higher latitudes were warmer. That's a good thing, more livable space.You don't want the stuff most life is made of to just build up and get trapped underground forever. It's just fucking stupid. You want the stuff to be around and available for life to use it. Complex organic materials don't just stay around forever in the environment, eventually something evolves to be able to exploit that resource.You are that somethingBe not afraid.
>>543556195>Shlomo, plz...good job outing yourself, oven dodger
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>>543556280Nice selfie, faggot
>>543555967>thoriumKEK meme fuel.Uranium is better in every way. Only cucks who want to appease the fags who think nuclear is evil and nuclear is scary advocate for thorium.
>>543543064You dont even have roads, leaf
>>543543511>proper unitsSays who?
>>543556038Tesla has better privacy protections than any phone you've owned
>>543556155OnStar has been a thing in GM vehicles since the 1990s. The entire marketing around it was based on GM being able to remotely unlock your car if you locked your keys inside or being able to kill the engine if it was stolen.
>>543556155imagine believing it's not a hundred times more convenient to remove it from "ICE" cars than EVsjust because you gave up on your privacy a long time ago doesn't mean I don't remove anything that sends signals from cars I buy.the ignorance..
>>543556458A 20 years old car has even better privacy protection you retarded cuck. There is no material reason why anyone would argue for loading insane amounts of pointless tech in a car other than being spiritually a slave.
>>543556540they had electric cars in the 1890s. the surveillance stuff has nothing to do with the power train.
electric BTFO more than ops asshole!
>>543556655>checkedFuel cells use electric motors you retard.
>>543545795I'm importing a diesel from Germany with my welfare check.
>>543556655What's the catch? Why can't we have water engines everywhere?
>>543538676>Just be rich, idiotThanks for the tip lol
>>543556703no one is really sure who the hydrogen meme is for at this point. i guess they haven't gotten the memo that EV owners don't actually want to recreate the gas station experience; they like not having to stop at one at all.
>>543539792I always feel bad for not being vegetarian when I see this gif.Why did God make animals so tasty :(
>>543556761Hydrogen embrittlement, trying to store the smallest atom in a compressed form without leaks is very difficult, and very explosive vehicle crashes.
>>543538676>either in 10 years or 30 years, all cars and trucks sold worldwide will be electricPresuming there's still an electrical infrastructure at the national level.ICEs are far easier to build, scrounge parts for, and maintain during periods of social upheaval.If the grid goes down, how does one generate electricity to charge an EV?ICEs can run on different liquid fuels, and can be made lighter and have greater range than an EV.
>>543556703its a HYBRID with CHEMICAL making the juice for the electric u insufferable smoothe brain!!
>>543556893Hydrogen is no where near as bad as a gasoline fire.
>>543556761jews of course
>>543556835and love having to stay where go for 8 hours to charge!
>>543556990Well it's over a lot quicker I guess
>>543556944i think oilniggers need to be investigated with pre-crime systems because so much of their discourse is centered around mad max scenarious.one would think they are prepared to use military force to destroy productive capacity to force their commodity price higher. oh, wait...
>>543549419>>543554681qed
>>543557057What the absolute fuck, what is wrong with bug people?
>>543557057again, most people aren't taking 250+mile road trips on the regular.
>>543556960
>>543538932If it wasn't for my 7 hour commute, I wouldn't have time to jerk off.I specifically drive a convertible.
>>543556944solar panels, wind turbines, hydropower, generators?
>>543557215nissan leaf my friend had came to partyhe had to wait like 8 hours to charge his shit lol
>>543557215in fact, the whole reason why people pay extra to have everything doordashed is because driving in modern urban and suburban environments is so detestable.
Battery cars are like the CRT monitor. The true revolution will be hydrogen fuel cells. Then even trucks will be electric.
>>543556835It's for construction mostly, where batteries can't function properly. An ammonia based fuel cell setup would make sense as it would keep a system of high energy density, convenient filling options and a pretty straight forward supply chain once they get catalysts down. They recently increased the ammonia catalysts to pretty extreme efficienty, 90+% last I saw, so they will soon have the ability. The last step is just getting the ammonia moving, which is pretty straight forward.
>>543557325https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbnGlcQiL1cdymaxion carstirling engineburn hydrogen directly!BOOM!
>>543557521Horribly inefficient you moron, you have to keep it extremely compressed or the power density is horrid. The only method that would work would be catalyst ammonia, then just use electric cause it's way more efficient.
>>543557271>solar panels, wind turbines, Requires infrastructure. You think you're going to charge your EV off your rooftop solar? Maybe an electric bike, but not a car. And what happens when the panels get damaged?>hydropower, Great, if you live next to a river>generatorsHome use generators are powered by, wait for it, gas or diesel or ethanol. So congratulations, you've added a step in getting energy from the fuel to the road.EVs are ok in city/suburbs as long as there's functioning infrastructure. But anyone who says they're more environmentally friendly is an ignorant retard who doesn't understand what goes into making an EV.Same with the big wind turbines that go on the big wind turbine farms. Those won't pay for themselves during their lifespan.
>>543550791i've done that. happens rarely. over here you'd end up in another country, having passed one or two on the way. over there you'd cross statelines? we know about the vastness of murrikah, amifren. but do you drive as far every day?
>>543557625wrong tardoworks greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbnGlcQiL1cBOOM!!you wrong again and been wrong and gotten ass whipped again!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZYwe have the technology!
>>543557755>do you drive as far every day?Not since the Big Mac &Latte Freedom Bill was passed that legislated a requirement that no point in the US or it's territories be more than 15 miles from a McDonald's, KFC, and a Starbucks. Now, almost no American citizen is farther from a calorie bundle distribution facility than our mobility scooters can reach on a single charge.
>>543557315>its the driving>totally not because they are too lazy
>>543555225>They legislated refineries into other states through excessive taxation under the premise of "paying their fair share to the 'global warming' problem" (a facade of virtue and total bullshit)No, refineries actually have an advantage here because a specific fuel type is required, creating a monopoly that allows them to not have to compete with most of the world. The fact is, gasoline usage is down.All your shit about global warming is retarded. It's been widely accepted by scientists for decades as fact.
>>543557838>muh stirling beats 95+% efficiency
>>543538749Why the fuck do you guys keep using this excuse?Your country was LITERALLY built by the railroad
>>543558195https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbnGlcQiL1croto rootering your mental ass with real engineering
>>543558383>posts another retarded jewtube videoThe most efficient Stirling engine is 32% thermal efficiency.
>>543558383For reference, gas turbines achieve 60+% efficiency while electric motors exceed 95% efficiency.
>>543554146>Steel is made of ironSteel industry requires massive quantities of oil. To produce it at scale is impossible. It will go back to being an incredibly rare and valuable alloy like it was during the pre-fossil fuels era.>very little is usedThey're byproducts of the oil industry. That's the reason they're so cheap because they're essentially waste products repurposed. Using oil just to make plastic will defeat the point of plastic as a cheap flexible material.
